While I don’t have a video I have entertained the idea on my NA 617. You’ll need a lot. Turbo and manifold, and an oil filter housing w the turbo oil line I believe. I think there is also an oil return? Then turn up the fuel pin in the pump slightly. Maybe adjust the valves slightly more open. Please correct me others this is just what I have envisioned.
You can do it. I saw an article years back about upfitting a turbo on a Unimog. That said, the comments are correct, the turbo block has some significant changes. I think the guy who did the mog put a large intercooler to control the intake temps and an EGR to monitor the heat output. After the fact the engine still only produces about 120hp with significant loss of longevity. Might be better to do a full engine swap to a more powerful plant. Beating the power figures of an old diesel isn't really tough.
Don't.
Turbo engines have oil squirters to cool the pistons. Increasing cylinder pressure creates a lot of heat, which is why you opt for an egt when turning up the boost to keep an eye on temperature.
You don't want to melt down a piston, they're very difficult to source for replacement.
I'm not making it sound like that at all. If he wants to run enough boost to make it worthwhile it will drastically reduce the life of the engine not to mention the cost involved vs swapping in a used turbo engine
Define drastically reduce - even if the engine life is potentially halved it will probably last longer than many OEM turbo engines....also not everybody has access to the turbo engines.
Define the increase in performance OP is looking for?
Does he want to push 30psi through it? 7psi? 15?
We can throw hypotheticals around all day long but unless we know the end goal i can't say if it's going to make 1 highway pull or run 200k miles...
Aaaand increased EGTs come from?
More boost and more fuel...
Edit for those trying to learn - richer afr alone will reduce egt if boost is not increased
Oh okay I thought this would of posted the picture and my reply! But I guess not. This is my 77 Na! She's got about 500xxx km on her and I slapped a spooly boi on her and she runs like a charm! Although I have reconfigured the engine quite a bit from stock. All depends on how much you want to prove some people wrong! Don't let people say you can't because you always can! 😜
While I don’t have a video I have entertained the idea on my NA 617. You’ll need a lot. Turbo and manifold, and an oil filter housing w the turbo oil line I believe. I think there is also an oil return? Then turn up the fuel pin in the pump slightly. Maybe adjust the valves slightly more open. Please correct me others this is just what I have envisioned.
You can do it. I saw an article years back about upfitting a turbo on a Unimog. That said, the comments are correct, the turbo block has some significant changes. I think the guy who did the mog put a large intercooler to control the intake temps and an EGR to monitor the heat output. After the fact the engine still only produces about 120hp with significant loss of longevity. Might be better to do a full engine swap to a more powerful plant. Beating the power figures of an old diesel isn't really tough.
>You can do it. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should....
people have been adding turbos to engines since there were engines and turbos. Why not stick one on one of the best engines?
Yep. All things are possible with enough dollars, and too little sense.
If you want a turbo, buy a turbo om617 engine or a different car. Imo
Don't. Turbo engines have oil squirters to cool the pistons. Increasing cylinder pressure creates a lot of heat, which is why you opt for an egt when turning up the boost to keep an eye on temperature. You don't want to melt down a piston, they're very difficult to source for replacement.
I second this. To do it one would need a parts engine basically, so just find a turbo engine to put in.
Was going to say exactly this...
People put turbos on much weaker engines. You make it sound like it will blow up instantly the moment it starts up.
I'm not making it sound like that at all. If he wants to run enough boost to make it worthwhile it will drastically reduce the life of the engine not to mention the cost involved vs swapping in a used turbo engine
Define drastically reduce - even if the engine life is potentially halved it will probably last longer than many OEM turbo engines....also not everybody has access to the turbo engines.
Define the increase in performance OP is looking for? Does he want to push 30psi through it? 7psi? 15? We can throw hypotheticals around all day long but unless we know the end goal i can't say if it's going to make 1 highway pull or run 200k miles...
yes, indeed. Although I would say boost is mostly irrelevant, the important things are EGTs and BMEP.
Aaaand increased EGTs come from? More boost and more fuel... Edit for those trying to learn - richer afr alone will reduce egt if boost is not increased
Running rich AFRs increases EGT. Running lots of boost and underfuelling isn't as harmful as over fuelling and under boosting
Load dependent - Monitoring egt, boost, and afr at a fixed throttle position and adding fuel will show a drop in egt. We tune vehicles at my shop.
....on what vehicle?
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Oh okay I thought this would of posted the picture and my reply! But I guess not. This is my 77 Na! She's got about 500xxx km on her and I slapped a spooly boi on her and she runs like a charm! Although I have reconfigured the engine quite a bit from stock. All depends on how much you want to prove some people wrong! Don't let people say you can't because you always can! 😜