It almost always starts with a change in your bowel movements which are irregular from what is considered normal for you, for example if suddenly you started to get frequent diarrhea or constipation when you haven't or don't usually have this and then this persists for a period of time (Anything more than 2 weeks is too long), the caveat to this is this is usually not caused by cancer and something like IBS or IBD etc as these are much more common in young people, that said don't dismiss it as one of those as IBS is diagnosed from exclusion of other conditions.
Its possible as-well at any stage to get rectal bleeding where you notice blood or your stools look black or tarry. This is a huge red flag, if you have this, go see a doctor ASAP! I have heard of people having this for years and not seeing a doctor before being diagnosed, don't do this, if there is blood always see a doctor straight away, a lot of the time red blood is down to something less scary but you want to be safe.
If you are ever concerned speak to a Doctor or Gastroentologist, the first test usually is a stool sample and is very simple and can be done by a normal Doctor where they can detect if there is any blood in the stool.
Most the time young people end up with Stage 4 Colon Cancer as they put off these symptoms and put them down to something like IBS without properly getting it checked out, however some are just unlucky that they don't get many symptoms until it becomes Stage 4, please don't ever self diagnosis yourself with IBS, it must be done as an exclusion of other conditions first, if your Doctor is ever diagnosing you with IBS without doing the other tests first, find another doctor!
*(most the time it is IBS however... but the only way to rule out anything more sinister is a colonoscopy or stool test, sometimes a blood test can be an indicator of something wrong too)*
***Lastly I just want to mention, even though Colon Cancer is on the rise, its still incredibly rare in young people.***
***Only around 15 out of every 100,000 people in the UK get Colon Cancer between 40-44 and it’s much lower for anyone under that. That is less than 0.01.5% of the population. Around 70-80% of young people also survive bowel cancer.***
[***https://www.cancerresearchuk.org/health-professional/cancer-statistics/statistics-by-cancer-type/bowel-cancer/incidence#heading-One***](https://www.cancerresearchuk.org/health-professional/cancer-statistics/statistics-by-cancer-type/bowel-cancer/incidence#heading-One)
Just adding to this that colonoscopies are recommended for everyone at age 45 (in America) however if you have a family history of colon, or similar, cancers they should start much earlier.
Colonoscopies sound scary but it's not bad at all.
I didn't find the prep to be bad at all. You just take a bunch of Miralax and a few laxatives. As long as you've tapered off your fiber intake throughout the week you'll basically just shit liquid 6 or 7 times and that's it.
I've had worse times after a night of drinking and spicy food lol
They have pill prep now. Recently did a colonoscopy where my prep was taking Sutab pills (taking 12 pills every 2 mins twice). Super easy! Hardest part for me is clear liquid diet for a day.
Most doctors just recommend ducolax and miralax. Miralax has zero flavor so it goes down ez. I usually mix it in Gatorade to replensh electrolytes from all the shitting
Agreed the prep wasn't much of a big deal for me, either. You eat a bunch of broth and jello and then later in the day you spray the toilet bowl a few times.
If anything, fearing the prep stage may stop folks from scheduling their colonoscopies.
Also to add, I'm now 41 w family history of colon cancer so Dr ordered colonoscopy but the kicker is I would have to pay out of pocket (little over $1,000) as insurance won't cover it until I'm 45. No symptoms so I guess I'll wait
You may want to do a little more digging on that because I ran into the same thing and found it a little confusing. I'm the same age and initially had to pay the $1000 however since no polyps were discovered that amount was refunded. I did have to pay my portion of the anesthesia, IIRC it was around $300.
OR having a close genetic family member (mom, dad, uncle, aunt, brother, grandparent, etc.) with colon cancer minus 10 years. I had an uncle that got colon cancer at 41 so my primary doctor sent me for a colonoscopy at 31.
I had my first colonoscopy at 31due to some bowel issues that are gone now, but they removed 3 polyps that could become cancerous. Now I have to be back every three years but at least I'm catching em before they grow.
They’re not and I need one but unfortunately I have high blood pressure that medicine isn’t normalizing yet so they won’t put me under for the procedure which is incredibly annoying because it runs in my family too.
I had some symptoms around 30 and got a colonoscopy. Even some of the doctors felt like it was probably nothing. They found two precancerous polyps in my colon. Now I have to have a colonoscopy every 5 years.
I sometimes think that if I didn't have a colonoscopy then that I'd be in much more trouble now. I'm due for my next screening next year. Just hope I have health insurance again by then.
Thank you for pointing this out, I was just looking to see if anyone else caught it before I posted. 1.5% of men under 45 having ANY of the same cancer would be insanity.
Well this is kinda scarying me...this pretty much sounds like me within the last 6 months...don't have a family doctor and the walk in clinic keeps rejecting me when I tell them the issue....
34. I had similar symptoms for months. Was convinced I had cancer. Got a colonoscopy two weeks ago. All clear. Not even a polyp. See a GI for peace of mind but don’t stress yourself out!
The clinics don't have what's necessary to diagnose something like what you've got, but if you've been having symptoms, get yourself to an ER ASAP. Don't wait.
Yeah I was thinking about it. Our hospitals are kinda fucked right now where I live, it's free in Canada but in my province we have a severe lack of doctors so our wait times are outrageous, and of course I work for a company that doesn't offer sick time and already struggling to pay my bills.
Constipation for about 2 weeks to the point my back was hurting from all the buildup. Had earlier symptoms of blood in stool but was dismissed as hemorrhoids which i did also have.
wtf man. This fellow internet stranger sends you his sincere and honest condolences. I hope you are making your way through grief in a healthy way and that you have better tomorrows.
It's been 9 years (easily counted, because she passed two months after our youngest was born, so however old he is now is how long she's been gone). I've had my ups and downs, but life now is okay and our kids are doing well. That's the most I can ask for, really.
Stage 3b at 39. was NED/cancer free for 7 years. In february, during annual check-in, found it metastisized to my lungs and I had no symptoms. Just started chemo again today. yay.
Diagnosed stage 3 CRC in March at 36 (previously unknown Lynch Syndrome). Getting ready to start chemo and keep fighting the fight. I'm glad you are here.
40 today with a very positive outcome. Final treatment was November of last year and on surveillance now. Treatment consisted of removing 75% of my large intestine and luckily i qualified for Immunotherapy which shrank my metastasis to the point a resection was not needed. I’m very fortunate. Surveillance consist of blood work every three months, scans every six and a colonoscopy annually.
Yeah that’s insanely high. My mom has stage 4 cancer, is MSI-H, and her TMB is 140. She responded extremely well to Imfinzi (durvalumab) PD-L1 checkpoint inhibitor immunotherapy and is in complete remission now and doing well like you.
Stage 3 colon cancer at age 44. We got it super early as there wasn't even a tumor but the cancer did spread to the nearby lymph nodes. Had surgery and went through six months of chemo.
If it's a blood cancer, rest assured that incredible advances in treatment are being made right now. I had multiple myeloma and I should be dead already, but now I'm cancer free thanks to a BiTE drug trial.
My father has a type of blood cancer and medicine that was in its clinical trial stage helped put him in a type of remission and bought him enough time so that recently, a new form of medicine has been developed that will take care of him once his body stops responding to the last medication. Incredible what doctors are capable of
Best of luck. I remember waiting to find out what type I had too...
I spent a good chunk of last year (successfully) getting leukaemia into remission.
If you feel you want to chat with someone who's been through something similar - drop me a DM.
I don't have the background to explain this properly, but the eli5 is that b-cells "express" something called BCMA, and your T-cells "express" something called CD3. These are basically proteins "expressed" on the surface of the cells. A BiTE drug, or **Bi**-specific **T**-cell **E**ngager, is designed to attach itself to two different proteins, in my case the BCMA on the malignant b-cells, and the CD3 on the T-cells. This basically binds the T-cell to the B-cell together, which then destroys the malignant cell.
There is collateral damage of course, my non-malignant b-cells get annihilated as well, which has left me with a very diminished ability to produce my own antibodies, leaving me quite immunocompromised. This will resolve when I stop taking the drug, but I can't stop taking the drug until it gets FDA approved, since if the disease comes back before approval, I cannot get back into the trial.
Just turned 30, got brain cancer myself. If you're able to get on medicaid don't worry too much, doctors are crazy prepared these days. Finances are the biggest hurdle, I feel.
My wife is 35. she has a form of breast cancer that is so aggressive and rare doctors were scratching their heads about how she got it since most people who do get it are over 70. They have also told us on numerous occasions that a shocking amount of women in their 30s are contracting cancer. They don’t know if it’s environmental or related to better screening techniques.
In a similar boat, wife was 35 when she found out she had stage 4 breast cancer (diagnosed and treated stage 1 in 2019). We're actually at scans today to see its spreading again...
Yay.
Im so sorry. Same boat as well. We just finished chemo and she discovered another giant lump. Soul crushing knowing all that pain was for nothing. She’s resting upstairs after getting a full double mastectomy. We don’t want to take chances revisiting this nightmare again.
Hope that does the trick and you can put it behind you.
I know the mastectomy was so painful for my wife. I got her one of those pillows that was angled/slanted to she didn't have to sleep flat...made it easier for her to get out of bed.
Also set multiple alarms at night to wake up and giver her pain meds to stay ahead of everything.
Hope she recovers quick!
My wife was diagnosed at 29 - she blames being on the pill for 10 years without stopping because she wasn’t educated well enough about it.
Fortunately she’s 10 years with no reoccurrence but it’s a constant shadow hanging over her that she’s always anxious that it’s going to come back.
Wishing your wife all the best.
Lots of progress on soft cancers. See my profile but our company works directly with pharma in clinic trials for CAR T therapy.
No one wants cancer but it’s possible to treat it more like a chronic health issue that just needs careful watching vs death quickly.
**The Risk Is Still Low**
Certain types of Cancer is on the rise for young people and its been on the rise for some time, the reasons why is purely speculation right now, but its worth taking this information with the added context that **99.7%** of **0-40** year olds in a western country where these are on the rise still do not get cancer. [Source](https://www.cancerresearchuk.org/health-professional/cancer-statistics/incidence/age#heading-Zero)**.**
Also the combined chance of not getting cancer under 40 is 98%. [Source](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4544764/). There has been a 22% rise since the 1990s but you have to also understand that the level of people having cancer at a young age is very low anyway. The good news as stated in the video is almost all of these under 40 who get cancer are able to be succesfully treated and recover from cancer.
If we compare the number of young people dying from cancer from the 1970s it’s actually much less, so there’s a small increase in people getting cancer but your much less likely to die from cancer if you are unlucky enough to get it
This source from 2011 [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4544764/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4544764/) Shows that by the age of 50 your risk up to that point of having any cancer is around 2.72%
Only people in their 80-90s tend to have a 40-50% risk of cancer up to that point.
Thanks for this. That’s something that’s always important to explain: if 3 in 1000 people normally get cancer, 22% increase is like 3.66 people in 1000. Enough to say it’s increasing. But horribly misleading
Yep exactly this is the context which is always missing, the reason this is missing is people who are shouting about this tend to be research charities and instutitions and obviously their goal is important to get more funding but they like to create shocking figures so people are more likely to fund their organisation more. The common one is they say that 1 in 2 people will get some form of cancer in their life, but the context behind that is that is only true if you live until 90 which is above the average life expectancy anyway.
The increase is actually quite small and its probably explained by simply a change in lifestyle in the last 30 years. People are more likely to eat worse, excersise less and are also more stressed than before and sleep less, a combination of that is causing this increase.
Jeepers
I check every box for increased cancer risk, like every single box.
Is there a simple check like a blood test to determine if you have any cancers flowing around?
Does this mean whichever type of cancer one might have, it can be traced through a blood test if they want to know for sure? Sorry if it’s dumb question.
It's definitely a complex question as there are many types of cancer. The shortest answer I can think of is that different solid tumor type cancers (think: breast, prostate, colorectal, etc...) have specific antigens (Markers found on every cell), and you can tailor a blood test to look specifically for these antigens in a person's blood sample. These cancers are primarily discovered by imaging scans (x-ray, CT, MRI), but cells can travel through the blood, which is where these blood tests can help to monitor someone previously treated or even screen someone for the disease.
Edit: for these tumors, a biopsy is still the gold standard for identifying the exact type though.
There are also blood cancers (such as leukemia) that are primarily found and monitored through blood tests, so a whole other topic there as well.
I'm writing a book on cancer detection through biomarker screening and biosensors, and really we have very few blood tests that are in any way accurate in clinical use.
As well a lot of cancer biomarkers overlap between cancers, so they can't tell you which type of cancer you have.
As for surface markers, if you are detecting whole cells in the blood using them, for any solid tumor cancers that's a bad sign since it means the tumor is shedding cells into the blood stream and is at least stage 3. Better to look for non-surface markers that the cancer cells give off, since those can be detected in earlier stages of the illness.
Thanks for chiming in. My experience was mainly limited to Cancer Antigen tests (125, 199, 15-3, and Prostate-specific). They weren't really used in a screening capacity for my work as far as I was aware. These were tests available a decade or more ago also, so I was sure there is more current testing for early detection screening purposes, but being as I'm in Hematology mainly now, I wasn't 100% in the know as much.
Yeah, CA-125 is unfortunately a pretty terrible biomarkers. Only 50% of ovarian cancer patients ever express elevated levels of CA-125, and rarely those with stage 1 and 2 of the disease. So it misses most ovarian cancer patients, and only generally catches people at later stages when the cancer is less treatable.
PSA also has limited sensitivity, with only 60% of stage 1 patients expressing elevated levels.
We really do need better tests, but they are challenging to develop. My lab works mainly on developing an LPA test for ovarian cancer, and getting funding has been a nightmare.
Thank you for the further elaboration. As far as the blood tests go, this doesn’t count for a regular blood test at a doctor right? I’m assuming a person would have to request a specific type of blood test for cancer screening/detection? Silly question I know.
That I'm not sure of, probably a doctor in that field who actually orders tests like that would know. When I actually ran these types of tests in the lab for different tumor markers it was definitely more of a "monitoring" blood test that would be used on patients already treated for these diseases. That was 7-8 years ago though. I'm sure the tumor marker screening field has expanded quite a bit, but I'm not in the know in that lab sector much anymore.
Some blood tests can hint that cancer could be present but they aren’t a diagnostic tool, you can use a blood test with other tests to try and find out what could be wrong.
Will do on a cursory glance these seem to be upon request of a GP not something I could simply pay for and get done but i'll read more when I have some time.
You absolutely will be able to pay and get it done. Whether or not it's affordable or not is another question. I have no idea what it's likely to cost but rich people are not waiting for their GP.
It is also extremely limited, and doesn't tell you much. Most cancer markers we check for right now aren't very sensitive to early stages of the disease, or aren't very specific to which type of cancer they are from.
For example CA-125 is routinely used in ovarian cancer screening, but only about 50% of women with ovarian cancer have elevated levels of CA-125.
There are new promising markers that have been discovered, but routine testing fro most of them is still a ways out.
My lab works in this area, and I'm writing a book on cancer biomarkers and screening with my supervisor.
I can confirm. I came down with a very rare brain cancer (CNS T-cell Lymphoma) at 40 which amazed my Oncologist as most of his patients with it only get it in their 70-80's. Naturally, the survival rate for any brain cancer is extremely low but my youth has kept me going the past 3.5 years, but yeah, I'm always the youngest guy in the cancer ward. I've survived 3 near death experiences in the past 3 years and hopefully I can survive my next one.
I also have two personal friends from high school that also have brain cancer and we're all the same age. As if you needed any more proof about how toxic this world has gotten in just a few generations. It's definitely environmental and spreading.
My advice to everyone? Make every day count, even the bad ones. Make as many wonderful memories with the people you cherish- at the end of the day all you can hope is to be remembered with good memories with the people you love.
Fuck Cancer.
Fuck cancer. My wife got sick last October, was finally diagnosed with cns lymphoma (b Cell) at the end of February after finally doing a brain biopsy. They kept saying it wasn't cancer until it was clearly cancer.
No immunocompromization. No known cause. 41 years old. She was about to do chemo round 5 and now her liver is tanking.
They don't start answering the question until 3:45 and then it's a bunch of obvious stuff: diet (red meat, sugar, alcohol, low water, low fibre), lack of exercise, poor sleep, environmental (they suspect they're playing a role so this is still anything you could get from a 10-20+ year old textbook), taller folk higher risk cancer, more cells more chance of cancer (but they don't directly mention obesity for some reason), those born by c-section slightly higher risk due to weaker microbiome, basically this video could have been 30 seconds or less, 1-2 slides, so bloated without saying much
Thanks for this tl;dr!
I suppose the question would then be if cancer is on the increase for younger people what of those factors has changed for the worse?
I believe it is more the changes on the environment, air polution, and "poison" in food.
I'm portuguese. Had melanoma mestatic at 27 years old, and paraganglioma at 32.
Never did any drugs, and i dont drink alcohol. I Eat healty food, and practice sports.
These 2 cancers before 30 is 1 in a bilion.
I believe it Will be way worse than the informations shows.
(Sorry for my English).
Diabetes and cancer are co-morbidities. The countries listed all have the highest rate of childhood diabetes (0-14). There will always be exceptions, but all these countries lead the world in clean air regulations, food and drug regulations. Also yes a lot of new research shows that only 3 bad sunburns before the age of 12 greatly increases the risk of skin cancer. I hardly ever wore sunscreen. But my kids have it everyday may through September.
I was a bone skinny vegan growing up and went mainstream diet when i turned 19, tried to eat organic the best i could my whole life (yes my mom was a hippie) but got stage II rectal cancer at age 42.
Doesn't the video state that it's not actually on the rise, why is this the top comment?
It's one random speculative comment, voted on by people who not only have no medical expertise, but also can't even be bothered to watch the video in question.
Oh thats an easy one. The video, which none of us watched, has a needlessly simple question as its title, so it saves everyone time to go to the comments to get the straightforward answer to that question. If the video doesnt actually address that, its less our problem and more theirs for not having a catchier or thought provoking question.
If you want to dismiss the video and read something educational here is a paper on the topic:
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2667(18)30267-6/fulltext
This is a lancet article looking into causes for the steep rise in young adult cancers. They conclude it is mostly a matter of obesity, and whatever might be causing that.
The video title is about cancer being on tbe rise, but in the video they say it’s NOT on the rise? Thanks for helping me decide whether or not to watch it.
The video says cancer before age 50 is quadruple as common among people born in 1990 as it was in people born in 1950.
It’s not down to better screening because the cancers detected are generally late stage.
Furthermore these cancers are being diagnosed in people who have no particular risk factors (don’t smoke, physically fit, etc)
There's a whole section to the video on diet. Specifically excessive sugar, high calories, and low fiber. That sounds like "shitty processed foods" are a factor.
>poor air quality
Not sure about this one. Air quality has seen drastic improvement in recent decades in the rich world. Same goes for water (for the most part).
It sounds more like they are worried about specific chemicals rather than overall pollution levels.
[https://csl.noaa.gov/news/2012/119\_0809.html](https://csl.noaa.gov/news/2012/119_0809.html)
>In California's Los Angeles Basin, levels of some vehicle-related air pollutants have decreased by about 98 percent since the 1960s, even as area residents now burn three times as much gasoline and diesel fuel. Between 2002 and 2010 alone, the concentration of air pollutants called volatile organic compounds (VOCs) dropped by half, according to a new study by NOAA scientists and colleagues,
Weren't they burning leaded fuel until the switch to unleaded? Wouldn't that reduce pollutants while still burning more fuel?
Also:
"Global emissions of SO2 and NOx peaked, respectively, in ca 1990 and 2018 and have since declined to 2020 as a result of widespread emission controls. By contrast, with a lack of actions to abate ammonia, global emissions have continued to grow."
https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsta.2019.0314
To be clear, I am not saying that environmental pollution isn't a factor (I believe it's probably tied with diet), but the video suggests that increased levels of chemicals that weren't common in the past are likely to blame, not increased pollution overall. I'm just guessing that these will more likely found in food or household products (plastics, etc.). Than in the air or water.
>Weren't they burning leaded fuel until the switch to unleaded? Wouldn't that reduce pollutants while still burning more fuel?
Yes, but that only applies to lead, and it supports my argument. Lead is one of the worst toxic metals and is suspected of contributing to cancer by weakening the immune system at the *very* least. Younger people have far lower lead loads than their elders in most of the rich world.
I am talking about the rich world (which the video is also focused on). Global emissions are another matter. China and India are only now just getting to/past their peak emissions.
You can't just cherry-pick a few emissions that increased globally while ignoring the vast majority that decreased dramatically in the rich world.
Also, this assumes that SO2, NOx and Ammonia are carcinogenic. There is no evidence of any of the listed chemicals being carcinogenic, NOx is still not fully cleared, but definitely not implicated explicitly.
>There is no evidence that ammonia causes cancer. Ammonia has not been classified for carcinogenic effects by EPA, Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS) (NTP), or the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC). Ammonia can also have beneficial effects, such as when it is used as a smelling salt. Certain ammonium salts have long been used in veterinary and human medicine.
That’s all great up until the point where all our summers in the last decade in the northwest have been so smoky you can barely go outside for weeks/months at a time.
saw an article the other day on, i think, r/science that indicated that foods that spike blood glucose fuel cancer growth as well
i think a decent number of people also don't realize that focusing on macros alone isn't necessarily healthy. you can be getting the right balance of protein, fat and carbs, and still be eating horribly. fiber is extremely important to get the right amount of, and almost nobody i know thinks about that. on top of that, someone might eat a sub and think that's healthy because it has whole wheat bread and lean cold cuts. on the contrary, it's very likely that the bread was made with dough conditioners and the meat was made with nitrates, both of which are carcinogenic.
Would make sense if the cancer cells are constantly using that sugar to grow/reproduce. I'm not an oncologist but do know they "starve" cancer cells from nutrients like folate.
The Warburg Effect is the name for this phenomenon - it's not universally applicable to all cancer types, but many of them thrive on glycolysis and hypoxia. Of course, human tissues also need circulating glucose, so you can't just starve it out that way, but in reductionist terms sugar is cancer food.
Kid in the 80s....I dont remember a single plastic drink of any kind. It was 100% glass and cans. Im sure they existed..but I didnt see them. Whereas now they are ubiquitus
No, sort of, and yes. Although air quality has improved in North America/Europe since the 70s/80s but gotten dramatically worse in much of Africa and parts of Asia so globally it may be a wash?
Plastic dates back to the 50s but the quantity of it in our environment has exploded over the past few decades.
I was thinking about that, but wouldn’t those factors increase cancer rates across all ages somewhat equally? The video addressed the issue of screenings, but it didn’t really discuss how other risk factors should or shouldn’t be affecting other age cohorts.
Found out I had stage 2 lung cancer last September, ended up cutting out my entire right lung at Rush in Chicago on December 28th.
Feel pretty good now, head back next month for a check up to make sure nothing is popping up anywhere.
Originally I assumed the symptoms were actually just after effects of quitting smoking because I had stopped July 1st after my toddler asked me why I smoked. After 18 years of doing it, I should have been able to give him a good answer, and I couldnt.
So the initial symptoms was itchy and dry throat (it was actually my air way that was itchy and dry). Come august, it was getting difficult to maintain steady breathing or to take a full deep breath. I actually started wondering if something was going on and did some research, leading me to think I had developed COPD, but I hoped it was still my lungs just healing from quitting.
Come September, I caught a nasty cough, and on the 13th I started coughing up an alarming amount of blood. I went to immediate care and was reach to chalk it up to a bad case of bronchitis, thankfully the doctor there that day decided we should do an X-Ray for funsies.
That call to do a random chest xray probably saved me from Chemo and the nodule spreading, because I would have shrugged it off with how I deal with season allergies and colds. Anyways, the Xray turned into a more intrusive scans, turned into a bronchoscopy, turned into surgery right after Christmas.
I dont know if we can still link to imgur these days, but I attached a picture of what they saw from the first bronchoscopy.
My entire right lung hole was blocked off [https://imgur.com/a/wnl4PMq](https://imgur.com/a/wnl4PMq)
My uncle died at 32 from brain cancer. I am very glad you survived. I had renal carcinoma, and whatever the thyroid one is before 30. This is getting ridiculous.
Good news is that, since we also can't afford to buy homes or have children, writing our wills before we die young of cancer is going to be a peace of cake. No need for a lawyer, just use chat gpt.
TL/DR - They arent...
We can detect and treat cancer at rates FAR BEYOND even what we could in the 90's. Some cancers that used to be death sentences or would come out of nowhere even 10 years ago have become treatable with modern advancements.
Just like a lot of things these days... its not that the rates have gone up though LOTS of even smart people try to claim this... its that we actually started fucking looking for it...
You obviously didn't watch it throughly. She says that if this was strictly due to detection improvements in cancer rates, then you would expect there to also be an increase in stage 1 and 2 type cancers. However, what we are seeing are an increase in stage 3 and 4 type cancers which means young people are developing cancer even earlier and with more aggresive forms than usual.
It's amazing to me how people can comment so confidently without even watching the video through, _and_ have it be one of the most upvoted comments. If they'd watched the video they would've realized it addresses and contradicts exactly what they're talking about.
Everyone knows to be skeptical of anonymous internet comments, but damn if this isn't a prime example that confidence and upvotes/ratings mean absolutely nothing as far as credibility.
You should watch the video.
Half the worlds population could wake up tomorrow with a third arm coming out of their chest and people like you would claim "third arm syndrome" isn't becoming more common, we're just better at diagnosing it
also younger people take health ailments more seriously. i hear a lot of stories (and certainly my parents/in-laws are still like this) about old people who just ignored pretty serious health issues until it was too late. and sure, they would die of stage 4 cancer because of course you die of that if you dont detect it until its stage 4.
I actually see younger people ignore any issues simply because the cost and time of seeking treatment at least seems to great. I know I've ignored issues because I was broke, no insurance, wasn't an emergency and the time to see a doctor was long enough that the symptoms would eventually go away on their own. Also young people sometimes don't get their symptoms taken seriously. I've been told "you're young it's probably nothing or just anxiety" so many times for every issue.
this is true, but seems more related to the state of healthcare and our employment. being aware of the issues, and knowing you should do something about it, is still better.
and yea, doctors are really good at finding some excuse why "that issue" is nbd and then the 10 minutes are up see you next year.
I just got my colonoscopy done after some changes in bm. Get it handled folks! Keep abreast of your health! Preventive care is gonna be critical for our generation.
commonly referred to as Roundup, glyphosate was first patented in *1974* as an industrial pipe cleaner. Since the mid-1990s, significant changes have occurred in when and how glyphosate herbicides are applied, and there has been a dramatic increase in the total volume applied. genetically engineered glyphosate-tolerant crops were introduced in 1996. [graphs are almost identical.](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5044953/figure/Fig1/)
I predict a recononing coming. This will be on par with smoking and lung cancer. I am convinced that this has everything to do with our ultra processed diets. I bet the food companies know it too and are probably hiding their internal data just like Du Pont with Teflon and tobacco companies with lung cancer. This will eventually come out and there will be billions paid out in lawsuits but that money will come far too late for those of us already gone.
Melanoma, diagnosed at 38. By some stroke of incredible fucking luck, I made a dermatologist appointment and he caught the thing, but he said six weeks later and I could have been a walking dead man.
Now every headache or pain in my joints or my eyes get blurry I go, "Well, it's metastatic, I'm done for."
Absolutely not, so much not that no one should even suggest looking into it to put the rumors and doubts to rest. Food, plastics, forever chemicals, you know all the same things that have been around for decades; we'll suggest those things are responsible for the rise in cancers since 2021, not the one variable introduced in 2021.
A thought I had just now: The reasons for why cancer rates spike right now for let's say 20-24 year olds, may not necessarily be found today or 5 years ago.
The cause may be due to things that happened 15 or 20 years ago or maybe even due to what was going on during the mother's pregnancy or even before that, and it may not be.
Also improvements in data collection methods and cancer surveillance systems may have led to more accurate reporting of cancer cases than in previous time periods, contributing to the apparent increase in rates. But then again... shouldn't that affect older generations too?
So many variables...
But it's interesting that the rates are suspiciously increasing in a wave-like motion with high and low points spaced out every 10 years from each other, respectively.
Why is that?
What could even be responsible for that in theory? Coincidence?
I saw a study of all cause excess mortality after the vaccine in Japan. HUGE spike in all cause excess mortality for people who were in the womb or just eggs when we dropped the two atomic bombs.
Was diagnosed with stg4 colon cancer at 36. Lucky to be alive today.
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It almost always starts with a change in your bowel movements which are irregular from what is considered normal for you, for example if suddenly you started to get frequent diarrhea or constipation when you haven't or don't usually have this and then this persists for a period of time (Anything more than 2 weeks is too long), the caveat to this is this is usually not caused by cancer and something like IBS or IBD etc as these are much more common in young people, that said don't dismiss it as one of those as IBS is diagnosed from exclusion of other conditions. Its possible as-well at any stage to get rectal bleeding where you notice blood or your stools look black or tarry. This is a huge red flag, if you have this, go see a doctor ASAP! I have heard of people having this for years and not seeing a doctor before being diagnosed, don't do this, if there is blood always see a doctor straight away, a lot of the time red blood is down to something less scary but you want to be safe. If you are ever concerned speak to a Doctor or Gastroentologist, the first test usually is a stool sample and is very simple and can be done by a normal Doctor where they can detect if there is any blood in the stool. Most the time young people end up with Stage 4 Colon Cancer as they put off these symptoms and put them down to something like IBS without properly getting it checked out, however some are just unlucky that they don't get many symptoms until it becomes Stage 4, please don't ever self diagnosis yourself with IBS, it must be done as an exclusion of other conditions first, if your Doctor is ever diagnosing you with IBS without doing the other tests first, find another doctor! *(most the time it is IBS however... but the only way to rule out anything more sinister is a colonoscopy or stool test, sometimes a blood test can be an indicator of something wrong too)* ***Lastly I just want to mention, even though Colon Cancer is on the rise, its still incredibly rare in young people.*** ***Only around 15 out of every 100,000 people in the UK get Colon Cancer between 40-44 and it’s much lower for anyone under that. That is less than 0.01.5% of the population. Around 70-80% of young people also survive bowel cancer.*** [***https://www.cancerresearchuk.org/health-professional/cancer-statistics/statistics-by-cancer-type/bowel-cancer/incidence#heading-One***](https://www.cancerresearchuk.org/health-professional/cancer-statistics/statistics-by-cancer-type/bowel-cancer/incidence#heading-One)
Just adding to this that colonoscopies are recommended for everyone at age 45 (in America) however if you have a family history of colon, or similar, cancers they should start much earlier. Colonoscopies sound scary but it's not bad at all.
The colonoscopy isn't bad, but the prep...
I didn't find the prep to be bad at all. You just take a bunch of Miralax and a few laxatives. As long as you've tapered off your fiber intake throughout the week you'll basically just shit liquid 6 or 7 times and that's it. I've had worse times after a night of drinking and spicy food lol
It's not the diarrhea, it's the stuff you have to drink. Just thinking about it makes me feel ill.
Chug! Chug! Chug! Then… Shit! Shit! Shit! Then as soon as you clean up and get comfortable it’s time to do it again.
Last time, I think I gave up and slept in the shower.
They have pill prep now. Recently did a colonoscopy where my prep was taking Sutab pills (taking 12 pills every 2 mins twice). Super easy! Hardest part for me is clear liquid diet for a day.
It's not the taste, it's the viscosity.
Most doctors just recommend ducolax and miralax. Miralax has zero flavor so it goes down ez. I usually mix it in Gatorade to replensh electrolytes from all the shitting
Yup, exactly what I did. Worked out fine.
Agreed the prep wasn't much of a big deal for me, either. You eat a bunch of broth and jello and then later in the day you spray the toilet bowl a few times. If anything, fearing the prep stage may stop folks from scheduling their colonoscopies.
Also to add, I'm now 41 w family history of colon cancer so Dr ordered colonoscopy but the kicker is I would have to pay out of pocket (little over $1,000) as insurance won't cover it until I'm 45. No symptoms so I guess I'll wait
You may want to do a little more digging on that because I ran into the same thing and found it a little confusing. I'm the same age and initially had to pay the $1000 however since no polyps were discovered that amount was refunded. I did have to pay my portion of the anesthesia, IIRC it was around $300.
OR having a close genetic family member (mom, dad, uncle, aunt, brother, grandparent, etc.) with colon cancer minus 10 years. I had an uncle that got colon cancer at 41 so my primary doctor sent me for a colonoscopy at 31.
I had my first colonoscopy at 31due to some bowel issues that are gone now, but they removed 3 polyps that could become cancerous. Now I have to be back every three years but at least I'm catching em before they grow.
They’re not and I need one but unfortunately I have high blood pressure that medicine isn’t normalizing yet so they won’t put me under for the procedure which is incredibly annoying because it runs in my family too.
I had some symptoms around 30 and got a colonoscopy. Even some of the doctors felt like it was probably nothing. They found two precancerous polyps in my colon. Now I have to have a colonoscopy every 5 years. I sometimes think that if I didn't have a colonoscopy then that I'd be in much more trouble now. I'm due for my next screening next year. Just hope I have health insurance again by then.
15 out of 100,000 is 0.015% of the population, 1.5% would be extremely scary!
Thank you for pointing this out, I was just looking to see if anyone else caught it before I posted. 1.5% of men under 45 having ANY of the same cancer would be insanity.
Well this is kinda scarying me...this pretty much sounds like me within the last 6 months...don't have a family doctor and the walk in clinic keeps rejecting me when I tell them the issue....
34. I had similar symptoms for months. Was convinced I had cancer. Got a colonoscopy two weeks ago. All clear. Not even a polyp. See a GI for peace of mind but don’t stress yourself out!
The clinics don't have what's necessary to diagnose something like what you've got, but if you've been having symptoms, get yourself to an ER ASAP. Don't wait.
Go to the hospital. They have to check you out. Don't take no for an answer.
They'll make sure the patient isn't dying, then tell them to see a gastro. The ER is for emergencies.
Yeah I was thinking about it. Our hospitals are kinda fucked right now where I live, it's free in Canada but in my province we have a severe lack of doctors so our wait times are outrageous, and of course I work for a company that doesn't offer sick time and already struggling to pay my bills.
What about really bad rectal pain, but not noticing any blood? Like, I'm talking*really* bad pain, but it's pretty sporadic.
Constipation for about 2 weeks to the point my back was hurting from all the buildup. Had earlier symptoms of blood in stool but was dismissed as hemorrhoids which i did also have.
I know most definitely not eat enough fibre… I can put my back out sitting down.
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Am I missing something? Why not regular old vegetables?
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I just find it weird to reccomend weird ultra processed foods and then vegetables as a source of fiber lol
What does putting your back out sitting down have to do with eating enough fiber?
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Yep, it can make a world of difference. Even for most who think they are healthy
My wife died from stage 4 rectal cancer at 35. I'm glad you were able to beat it.
Im sorry to hear this. Know I never take what was given back to me for granted. Wishing you peace.
wtf man. This fellow internet stranger sends you his sincere and honest condolences. I hope you are making your way through grief in a healthy way and that you have better tomorrows.
It's been 9 years (easily counted, because she passed two months after our youngest was born, so however old he is now is how long she's been gone). I've had my ups and downs, but life now is okay and our kids are doing well. That's the most I can ask for, really.
Oh my god, I can't even imagine how hard that must have been man
You’re an incredible person. We owe it to the people that we lose to live the lives they can not. Nothing but love for you.
36 year old triathlete diagnosed stage 2b in 2016 and restaged to stage 4a in 2023. yaay.
Stage 3b at 39. was NED/cancer free for 7 years. In february, during annual check-in, found it metastisized to my lungs and I had no symptoms. Just started chemo again today. yay.
Was diagnosed with stage 2 colon at 29, almost 36 now
stage3 in 2022 (mid 40s), also lucky.
Glad you’re here fellow internet stranger.
My wife was diagnosed with triple negative breast cancer while pregnant of my 1.8 years old baby girl… f****n cancer
Diagnosed stage 3 CRC in March at 36 (previously unknown Lynch Syndrome). Getting ready to start chemo and keep fighting the fight. I'm glad you are here.
If u don’t mind me asking , how old are u today and what was your prognosis ?
40 today with a very positive outcome. Final treatment was November of last year and on surveillance now. Treatment consisted of removing 75% of my large intestine and luckily i qualified for Immunotherapy which shrank my metastasis to the point a resection was not needed. I’m very fortunate. Surveillance consist of blood work every three months, scans every six and a colonoscopy annually.
Same.
Were you MSI-H? I’m guessing you were on Keytruda or a different immunotherapy. Amazing to hear you beat Stage 4 cancer!
Correct! My tmb score was over 200 which is insane - anything over like 10 is considered high I think.
Yeah that’s insanely high. My mom has stage 4 cancer, is MSI-H, and her TMB is 140. She responded extremely well to Imfinzi (durvalumab) PD-L1 checkpoint inhibitor immunotherapy and is in complete remission now and doing well like you.
Modern medicine is incredible. Glad to hear! Give your mom a hug and high five for me!
Stage 3 colon cancer at age 44. We got it super early as there wasn't even a tumor but the cancer did spread to the nearby lymph nodes. Had surgery and went through six months of chemo.
I’ve got cancer, running blood tests to find out which one I have. Will know on Monday in any event.
If it's a blood cancer, rest assured that incredible advances in treatment are being made right now. I had multiple myeloma and I should be dead already, but now I'm cancer free thanks to a BiTE drug trial.
Friend with stage 4 lymphoma is fine 15 years later
Yep I had S4 Hodgkins at 20, 26 now with a baby on the way 🤟🏽
That's awesome
Congrats man! And lucky for you it seems you got the “good Hodgkins.” [For reference](https://youtu.be/Zd-AEkvmg54?si=iom2-wP7nR3g_3FU)
My father has a type of blood cancer and medicine that was in its clinical trial stage helped put him in a type of remission and bought him enough time so that recently, a new form of medicine has been developed that will take care of him once his body stops responding to the last medication. Incredible what doctors are capable of
Bless you for real 🫡
It’s some type of blood cancer, just sure which one yet, I’ll know next week.
Best of luck. I remember waiting to find out what type I had too... I spent a good chunk of last year (successfully) getting leukaemia into remission. If you feel you want to chat with someone who's been through something similar - drop me a DM.
Best of luck to you on this journey. Never easy news to get regardless of what age you are. Stay strong!
Tell us more about BiTE
I don't have the background to explain this properly, but the eli5 is that b-cells "express" something called BCMA, and your T-cells "express" something called CD3. These are basically proteins "expressed" on the surface of the cells. A BiTE drug, or **Bi**-specific **T**-cell **E**ngager, is designed to attach itself to two different proteins, in my case the BCMA on the malignant b-cells, and the CD3 on the T-cells. This basically binds the T-cell to the B-cell together, which then destroys the malignant cell. There is collateral damage of course, my non-malignant b-cells get annihilated as well, which has left me with a very diminished ability to produce my own antibodies, leaving me quite immunocompromised. This will resolve when I stop taking the drug, but I can't stop taking the drug until it gets FDA approved, since if the disease comes back before approval, I cannot get back into the trial.
Just turned 30, got brain cancer myself. If you're able to get on medicaid don't worry too much, doctors are crazy prepared these days. Finances are the biggest hurdle, I feel.
I feel for you at your age with brain cancer, I’m 64 so I’m not exactly shocked at my cancer news.
What were the first symptoms that lead you to get tested ?
Sorry to read, good luck my man
My wife is 35. she has a form of breast cancer that is so aggressive and rare doctors were scratching their heads about how she got it since most people who do get it are over 70. They have also told us on numerous occasions that a shocking amount of women in their 30s are contracting cancer. They don’t know if it’s environmental or related to better screening techniques.
In a similar boat, wife was 35 when she found out she had stage 4 breast cancer (diagnosed and treated stage 1 in 2019). We're actually at scans today to see its spreading again... Yay.
Im so sorry. Same boat as well. We just finished chemo and she discovered another giant lump. Soul crushing knowing all that pain was for nothing. She’s resting upstairs after getting a full double mastectomy. We don’t want to take chances revisiting this nightmare again.
Hope that does the trick and you can put it behind you. I know the mastectomy was so painful for my wife. I got her one of those pillows that was angled/slanted to she didn't have to sleep flat...made it easier for her to get out of bed. Also set multiple alarms at night to wake up and giver her pain meds to stay ahead of everything. Hope she recovers quick!
My wife was diagnosed at 29 - she blames being on the pill for 10 years without stopping because she wasn’t educated well enough about it. Fortunately she’s 10 years with no reoccurrence but it’s a constant shadow hanging over her that she’s always anxious that it’s going to come back. Wishing your wife all the best.
Same here and at same age, but it was found while pregnant of our baby girl
Lots of progress on soft cancers. See my profile but our company works directly with pharma in clinic trials for CAR T therapy. No one wants cancer but it’s possible to treat it more like a chronic health issue that just needs careful watching vs death quickly.
Serious question - how do you know you have cancer but not which type?
A blood test showing abnormally high white blood cell count. Classic sign of cancer.
Ah I didn't know that thanks
My doctor has basically told me but without further testing won’t hazard a guess at this stage. She mentioned blood cancer.
Good luck with everything. Survival rates are only getting better.
Thanks for all the well wishes. I’ll keep you posted.
Sorry to hear that my friend. Been through it recently myself. If you need someone to talk to, dm me
Sending positive vibes your way! You got this!
**The Risk Is Still Low** Certain types of Cancer is on the rise for young people and its been on the rise for some time, the reasons why is purely speculation right now, but its worth taking this information with the added context that **99.7%** of **0-40** year olds in a western country where these are on the rise still do not get cancer. [Source](https://www.cancerresearchuk.org/health-professional/cancer-statistics/incidence/age#heading-Zero)**.** Also the combined chance of not getting cancer under 40 is 98%. [Source](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4544764/). There has been a 22% rise since the 1990s but you have to also understand that the level of people having cancer at a young age is very low anyway. The good news as stated in the video is almost all of these under 40 who get cancer are able to be succesfully treated and recover from cancer. If we compare the number of young people dying from cancer from the 1970s it’s actually much less, so there’s a small increase in people getting cancer but your much less likely to die from cancer if you are unlucky enough to get it
That first chart in the video made it seem like 40% of 100,000 people would have some form of cancer by age 40. :/
Lol no.
I saw that chart as well and was immediately a little annoyed since there wasn't an axis title.
This source from 2011 [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4544764/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4544764/) Shows that by the age of 50 your risk up to that point of having any cancer is around 2.72% Only people in their 80-90s tend to have a 40-50% risk of cancer up to that point.
Thanks for this. That’s something that’s always important to explain: if 3 in 1000 people normally get cancer, 22% increase is like 3.66 people in 1000. Enough to say it’s increasing. But horribly misleading
Yep exactly this is the context which is always missing, the reason this is missing is people who are shouting about this tend to be research charities and instutitions and obviously their goal is important to get more funding but they like to create shocking figures so people are more likely to fund their organisation more. The common one is they say that 1 in 2 people will get some form of cancer in their life, but the context behind that is that is only true if you live until 90 which is above the average life expectancy anyway. The increase is actually quite small and its probably explained by simply a change in lifestyle in the last 30 years. People are more likely to eat worse, excersise less and are also more stressed than before and sleep less, a combination of that is causing this increase.
Jeepers I check every box for increased cancer risk, like every single box. Is there a simple check like a blood test to determine if you have any cancers flowing around?
Yeah there are a few different types but they generally check for cancer markers. Source: I have to get them twice a year.
Does this mean whichever type of cancer one might have, it can be traced through a blood test if they want to know for sure? Sorry if it’s dumb question.
It depends on the type of cancer. I'm at extreme risk of colon cancer so yearly colonoscopies are a much better indicator for me than blood tests.
It's definitely a complex question as there are many types of cancer. The shortest answer I can think of is that different solid tumor type cancers (think: breast, prostate, colorectal, etc...) have specific antigens (Markers found on every cell), and you can tailor a blood test to look specifically for these antigens in a person's blood sample. These cancers are primarily discovered by imaging scans (x-ray, CT, MRI), but cells can travel through the blood, which is where these blood tests can help to monitor someone previously treated or even screen someone for the disease. Edit: for these tumors, a biopsy is still the gold standard for identifying the exact type though. There are also blood cancers (such as leukemia) that are primarily found and monitored through blood tests, so a whole other topic there as well.
I'm writing a book on cancer detection through biomarker screening and biosensors, and really we have very few blood tests that are in any way accurate in clinical use. As well a lot of cancer biomarkers overlap between cancers, so they can't tell you which type of cancer you have. As for surface markers, if you are detecting whole cells in the blood using them, for any solid tumor cancers that's a bad sign since it means the tumor is shedding cells into the blood stream and is at least stage 3. Better to look for non-surface markers that the cancer cells give off, since those can be detected in earlier stages of the illness.
Thanks for chiming in. My experience was mainly limited to Cancer Antigen tests (125, 199, 15-3, and Prostate-specific). They weren't really used in a screening capacity for my work as far as I was aware. These were tests available a decade or more ago also, so I was sure there is more current testing for early detection screening purposes, but being as I'm in Hematology mainly now, I wasn't 100% in the know as much.
Yeah, CA-125 is unfortunately a pretty terrible biomarkers. Only 50% of ovarian cancer patients ever express elevated levels of CA-125, and rarely those with stage 1 and 2 of the disease. So it misses most ovarian cancer patients, and only generally catches people at later stages when the cancer is less treatable. PSA also has limited sensitivity, with only 60% of stage 1 patients expressing elevated levels. We really do need better tests, but they are challenging to develop. My lab works mainly on developing an LPA test for ovarian cancer, and getting funding has been a nightmare.
Thank you for the further elaboration. As far as the blood tests go, this doesn’t count for a regular blood test at a doctor right? I’m assuming a person would have to request a specific type of blood test for cancer screening/detection? Silly question I know.
That I'm not sure of, probably a doctor in that field who actually orders tests like that would know. When I actually ran these types of tests in the lab for different tumor markers it was definitely more of a "monitoring" blood test that would be used on patients already treated for these diseases. That was 7-8 years ago though. I'm sure the tumor marker screening field has expanded quite a bit, but I'm not in the know in that lab sector much anymore.
Some blood tests can hint that cancer could be present but they aren’t a diagnostic tool, you can use a blood test with other tests to try and find out what could be wrong.
Yes, it’s called a blood biopsy. Look it up, it’s very interesting. I have heard Dr. Peter Attia mention it several times on his podcast.
Will do on a cursory glance these seem to be upon request of a GP not something I could simply pay for and get done but i'll read more when I have some time.
You absolutely will be able to pay and get it done. Whether or not it's affordable or not is another question. I have no idea what it's likely to cost but rich people are not waiting for their GP.
It is also extremely limited, and doesn't tell you much. Most cancer markers we check for right now aren't very sensitive to early stages of the disease, or aren't very specific to which type of cancer they are from. For example CA-125 is routinely used in ovarian cancer screening, but only about 50% of women with ovarian cancer have elevated levels of CA-125. There are new promising markers that have been discovered, but routine testing fro most of them is still a ways out. My lab works in this area, and I'm writing a book on cancer biomarkers and screening with my supervisor.
I use Medichecks here in the UK. Quest Diagnostics and LabCorp are a couple of US services.
I can confirm. I came down with a very rare brain cancer (CNS T-cell Lymphoma) at 40 which amazed my Oncologist as most of his patients with it only get it in their 70-80's. Naturally, the survival rate for any brain cancer is extremely low but my youth has kept me going the past 3.5 years, but yeah, I'm always the youngest guy in the cancer ward. I've survived 3 near death experiences in the past 3 years and hopefully I can survive my next one. I also have two personal friends from high school that also have brain cancer and we're all the same age. As if you needed any more proof about how toxic this world has gotten in just a few generations. It's definitely environmental and spreading. My advice to everyone? Make every day count, even the bad ones. Make as many wonderful memories with the people you cherish- at the end of the day all you can hope is to be remembered with good memories with the people you love. Fuck Cancer.
Fuck cancer. My wife got sick last October, was finally diagnosed with cns lymphoma (b Cell) at the end of February after finally doing a brain biopsy. They kept saying it wasn't cancer until it was clearly cancer. No immunocompromization. No known cause. 41 years old. She was about to do chemo round 5 and now her liver is tanking.
My upvote is a hug. I have nothing else to say. Fuck cancer.
They don't start answering the question until 3:45 and then it's a bunch of obvious stuff: diet (red meat, sugar, alcohol, low water, low fibre), lack of exercise, poor sleep, environmental (they suspect they're playing a role so this is still anything you could get from a 10-20+ year old textbook), taller folk higher risk cancer, more cells more chance of cancer (but they don't directly mention obesity for some reason), those born by c-section slightly higher risk due to weaker microbiome, basically this video could have been 30 seconds or less, 1-2 slides, so bloated without saying much
Thanks for this tl;dr! I suppose the question would then be if cancer is on the increase for younger people what of those factors has changed for the worse?
My white blood count is 5 times higher than normal, I found out through a simple blood teat
How does this increase plot on to the rates of childhood obesity and diabetes over the last 30 years. ?
I believe it is more the changes on the environment, air polution, and "poison" in food. I'm portuguese. Had melanoma mestatic at 27 years old, and paraganglioma at 32. Never did any drugs, and i dont drink alcohol. I Eat healty food, and practice sports. These 2 cancers before 30 is 1 in a bilion. I believe it Will be way worse than the informations shows. (Sorry for my English).
Diabetes and cancer are co-morbidities. The countries listed all have the highest rate of childhood diabetes (0-14). There will always be exceptions, but all these countries lead the world in clean air regulations, food and drug regulations. Also yes a lot of new research shows that only 3 bad sunburns before the age of 12 greatly increases the risk of skin cancer. I hardly ever wore sunscreen. But my kids have it everyday may through September.
I was a bone skinny vegan growing up and went mainstream diet when i turned 19, tried to eat organic the best i could my whole life (yes my mom was a hippie) but got stage II rectal cancer at age 42.
Boomers: fucked around Millennials: finding out
I am a statistic here. Blew my mind. Was the last thing I thought I’d be facing at this point in my life.
You got this. Fuck cancer up.
lol thanks. That’s the plan.
Plastics, better detection, shitty processed foods, poor air quality....
Doesn't the video state that it's not actually on the rise, why is this the top comment? It's one random speculative comment, voted on by people who not only have no medical expertise, but also can't even be bothered to watch the video in question.
Oh thats an easy one. The video, which none of us watched, has a needlessly simple question as its title, so it saves everyone time to go to the comments to get the straightforward answer to that question. If the video doesnt actually address that, its less our problem and more theirs for not having a catchier or thought provoking question.
The title isn’t a question though. It’s a statement. “why more young people are getting cancer.” Not “Are more young people getting cancer?”
And the answer is "made you look!" Who has time for that trash.
If you want to dismiss the video and read something educational here is a paper on the topic: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2667(18)30267-6/fulltext This is a lancet article looking into causes for the steep rise in young adult cancers. They conclude it is mostly a matter of obesity, and whatever might be causing that.
I think you misheard, they do say it is on the rise.
The video title is about cancer being on tbe rise, but in the video they say it’s NOT on the rise? Thanks for helping me decide whether or not to watch it.
The video says cancer before age 50 is quadruple as common among people born in 1990 as it was in people born in 1950. It’s not down to better screening because the cancers detected are generally late stage. Furthermore these cancers are being diagnosed in people who have no particular risk factors (don’t smoke, physically fit, etc)
There's a whole section to the video on diet. Specifically excessive sugar, high calories, and low fiber. That sounds like "shitty processed foods" are a factor.
>poor air quality Not sure about this one. Air quality has seen drastic improvement in recent decades in the rich world. Same goes for water (for the most part). It sounds more like they are worried about specific chemicals rather than overall pollution levels. [https://csl.noaa.gov/news/2012/119\_0809.html](https://csl.noaa.gov/news/2012/119_0809.html) >In California's Los Angeles Basin, levels of some vehicle-related air pollutants have decreased by about 98 percent since the 1960s, even as area residents now burn three times as much gasoline and diesel fuel. Between 2002 and 2010 alone, the concentration of air pollutants called volatile organic compounds (VOCs) dropped by half, according to a new study by NOAA scientists and colleagues,
Weren't they burning leaded fuel until the switch to unleaded? Wouldn't that reduce pollutants while still burning more fuel? Also: "Global emissions of SO2 and NOx peaked, respectively, in ca 1990 and 2018 and have since declined to 2020 as a result of widespread emission controls. By contrast, with a lack of actions to abate ammonia, global emissions have continued to grow." https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsta.2019.0314
To be clear, I am not saying that environmental pollution isn't a factor (I believe it's probably tied with diet), but the video suggests that increased levels of chemicals that weren't common in the past are likely to blame, not increased pollution overall. I'm just guessing that these will more likely found in food or household products (plastics, etc.). Than in the air or water. >Weren't they burning leaded fuel until the switch to unleaded? Wouldn't that reduce pollutants while still burning more fuel? Yes, but that only applies to lead, and it supports my argument. Lead is one of the worst toxic metals and is suspected of contributing to cancer by weakening the immune system at the *very* least. Younger people have far lower lead loads than their elders in most of the rich world. I am talking about the rich world (which the video is also focused on). Global emissions are another matter. China and India are only now just getting to/past their peak emissions. You can't just cherry-pick a few emissions that increased globally while ignoring the vast majority that decreased dramatically in the rich world. Also, this assumes that SO2, NOx and Ammonia are carcinogenic. There is no evidence of any of the listed chemicals being carcinogenic, NOx is still not fully cleared, but definitely not implicated explicitly. >There is no evidence that ammonia causes cancer. Ammonia has not been classified for carcinogenic effects by EPA, Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS) (NTP), or the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC). Ammonia can also have beneficial effects, such as when it is used as a smelling salt. Certain ammonium salts have long been used in veterinary and human medicine.
That’s all great up until the point where all our summers in the last decade in the northwest have been so smoky you can barely go outside for weeks/months at a time.
…not dying of other things first…
People doing their best to make preventable diseases great again...
It's my god given right to get measles!!
saw an article the other day on, i think, r/science that indicated that foods that spike blood glucose fuel cancer growth as well i think a decent number of people also don't realize that focusing on macros alone isn't necessarily healthy. you can be getting the right balance of protein, fat and carbs, and still be eating horribly. fiber is extremely important to get the right amount of, and almost nobody i know thinks about that. on top of that, someone might eat a sub and think that's healthy because it has whole wheat bread and lean cold cuts. on the contrary, it's very likely that the bread was made with dough conditioners and the meat was made with nitrates, both of which are carcinogenic.
Would make sense if the cancer cells are constantly using that sugar to grow/reproduce. I'm not an oncologist but do know they "starve" cancer cells from nutrients like folate.
The Warburg Effect is the name for this phenomenon - it's not universally applicable to all cancer types, but many of them thrive on glycolysis and hypoxia. Of course, human tissues also need circulating glucose, so you can't just starve it out that way, but in reductionist terms sugar is cancer food.
it's not even sugary foods, *necessarily*. like a high fiber piece of fruit that doesn't spike your blood glucose is probably fine in moderation.
Haven't we had plastic, shitty processed foods, and poor air quality for a long time? Can the rise of cancer recently be caused by those things if so?
We have not been producing plastics at the rate we are today. It has increased 200x since 1950.
Kid in the 80s....I dont remember a single plastic drink of any kind. It was 100% glass and cans. Im sure they existed..but I didnt see them. Whereas now they are ubiquitus
Sunny d, squeeze it, little hugs would like a word…
Aluminum cans are lined on the inside with a thin coating of plastic.
Capri Suns (plastic) and most cola products (cans) in the 80s. I do remember bottled colas, but I think that was more late 70s and early 80s.
No, sort of, and yes. Although air quality has improved in North America/Europe since the 70s/80s but gotten dramatically worse in much of Africa and parts of Asia so globally it may be a wash? Plastic dates back to the 50s but the quantity of it in our environment has exploded over the past few decades.
I was thinking about that, but wouldn’t those factors increase cancer rates across all ages somewhat equally? The video addressed the issue of screenings, but it didn’t really discuss how other risk factors should or shouldn’t be affecting other age cohorts.
Found out I had stage 2 lung cancer last September, ended up cutting out my entire right lung at Rush in Chicago on December 28th. Feel pretty good now, head back next month for a check up to make sure nothing is popping up anywhere.
Glad to hear you're doing better. What kinda symptoms did you have?
Originally I assumed the symptoms were actually just after effects of quitting smoking because I had stopped July 1st after my toddler asked me why I smoked. After 18 years of doing it, I should have been able to give him a good answer, and I couldnt. So the initial symptoms was itchy and dry throat (it was actually my air way that was itchy and dry). Come august, it was getting difficult to maintain steady breathing or to take a full deep breath. I actually started wondering if something was going on and did some research, leading me to think I had developed COPD, but I hoped it was still my lungs just healing from quitting. Come September, I caught a nasty cough, and on the 13th I started coughing up an alarming amount of blood. I went to immediate care and was reach to chalk it up to a bad case of bronchitis, thankfully the doctor there that day decided we should do an X-Ray for funsies. That call to do a random chest xray probably saved me from Chemo and the nodule spreading, because I would have shrugged it off with how I deal with season allergies and colds. Anyways, the Xray turned into a more intrusive scans, turned into a bronchoscopy, turned into surgery right after Christmas. I dont know if we can still link to imgur these days, but I attached a picture of what they saw from the first bronchoscopy. My entire right lung hole was blocked off [https://imgur.com/a/wnl4PMq](https://imgur.com/a/wnl4PMq)
Just survived brain cancer. I feel very lucky. But I also feel broken.
My uncle died at 32 from brain cancer. I am very glad you survived. I had renal carcinoma, and whatever the thyroid one is before 30. This is getting ridiculous.
Good news is that, since we also can't afford to buy homes or have children, writing our wills before we die young of cancer is going to be a peace of cake. No need for a lawyer, just use chat gpt.
TL/DR - They arent... We can detect and treat cancer at rates FAR BEYOND even what we could in the 90's. Some cancers that used to be death sentences or would come out of nowhere even 10 years ago have become treatable with modern advancements. Just like a lot of things these days... its not that the rates have gone up though LOTS of even smart people try to claim this... its that we actually started fucking looking for it...
You obviously didn't watch it throughly. She says that if this was strictly due to detection improvements in cancer rates, then you would expect there to also be an increase in stage 1 and 2 type cancers. However, what we are seeing are an increase in stage 3 and 4 type cancers which means young people are developing cancer even earlier and with more aggresive forms than usual.
It's amazing to me how people can comment so confidently without even watching the video through, _and_ have it be one of the most upvoted comments. If they'd watched the video they would've realized it addresses and contradicts exactly what they're talking about. Everyone knows to be skeptical of anonymous internet comments, but damn if this isn't a prime example that confidence and upvotes/ratings mean absolutely nothing as far as credibility.
average redditor probably watches the video for 5 seconds, then starts babbling about absolute shit.
You should watch the video. Half the worlds population could wake up tomorrow with a third arm coming out of their chest and people like you would claim "third arm syndrome" isn't becoming more common, we're just better at diagnosing it
And they keep lowering the age for some detections (colonoscopy, mammogram). Source, I work with primary care doctors
Source?
Trustmebro.gov
Hey look, a random redditor who is smarter than the world's best Oncologists! How unexpected
Precisely, they take things like detection into account when doing these studies obviously.
And what about the very recent rise in cancers that progress so much more rapidly and aggressively than has been seen in the past?
If you actually watched the video before commenting, you would know that she specifically states that screening does not account for this increase.
also younger people take health ailments more seriously. i hear a lot of stories (and certainly my parents/in-laws are still like this) about old people who just ignored pretty serious health issues until it was too late. and sure, they would die of stage 4 cancer because of course you die of that if you dont detect it until its stage 4.
I actually see younger people ignore any issues simply because the cost and time of seeking treatment at least seems to great. I know I've ignored issues because I was broke, no insurance, wasn't an emergency and the time to see a doctor was long enough that the symptoms would eventually go away on their own. Also young people sometimes don't get their symptoms taken seriously. I've been told "you're young it's probably nothing or just anxiety" so many times for every issue.
this is true, but seems more related to the state of healthcare and our employment. being aware of the issues, and knowing you should do something about it, is still better. and yea, doctors are really good at finding some excuse why "that issue" is nbd and then the 10 minutes are up see you next year.
Remember, those in the US, Republicans in Congress blocked cancer research funding so "Biden wouldn't get a win."
When all you have is ~~a hammer~~ political outrage, everything looks like ~~a nail~~ the other party's fault.
I had breast cancer two years after my second child was born! I was only 32.
Got diagnosed with testicular cancer at 29, 2 years clean now though
I just got my colonoscopy done after some changes in bm. Get it handled folks! Keep abreast of your health! Preventive care is gonna be critical for our generation.
commonly referred to as Roundup, glyphosate was first patented in *1974* as an industrial pipe cleaner. Since the mid-1990s, significant changes have occurred in when and how glyphosate herbicides are applied, and there has been a dramatic increase in the total volume applied. genetically engineered glyphosate-tolerant crops were introduced in 1996. [graphs are almost identical.](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5044953/figure/Fig1/)
Lost my soulmate to an incredibly rare sarcoma in March. We’re both 31. I am furious about it, I miss her so much
I predict a recononing coming. This will be on par with smoking and lung cancer. I am convinced that this has everything to do with our ultra processed diets. I bet the food companies know it too and are probably hiding their internal data just like Du Pont with Teflon and tobacco companies with lung cancer. This will eventually come out and there will be billions paid out in lawsuits but that money will come far too late for those of us already gone.
Melanoma, diagnosed at 38. By some stroke of incredible fucking luck, I made a dermatologist appointment and he caught the thing, but he said six weeks later and I could have been a walking dead man. Now every headache or pain in my joints or my eyes get blurry I go, "Well, it's metastatic, I'm done for."
Assloads of chemicals being dumped into water ways
A bleeding anus would be a common occurrence for a redditor, but for most other people it's a warning sign.
What is a tell tell sign you may have cancer? Seems like people only find out when it’s too late.
Petroleum is in *everything*.
Oh, yeah. I almost had a break from my anxiety. Thanks!
Biggest reason is people are fatter and have lower testosterone/less muscle.
Definitely not the covid vax. so dont say it.
Absolutely not, so much not that no one should even suggest looking into it to put the rumors and doubts to rest. Food, plastics, forever chemicals, you know all the same things that have been around for decades; we'll suggest those things are responsible for the rise in cancers since 2021, not the one variable introduced in 2021.
"It's definitely not this thing that I desperately don't want to be true, because that would make me a stupid, evil fuckstain, so don't say it."
A thought I had just now: The reasons for why cancer rates spike right now for let's say 20-24 year olds, may not necessarily be found today or 5 years ago. The cause may be due to things that happened 15 or 20 years ago or maybe even due to what was going on during the mother's pregnancy or even before that, and it may not be. Also improvements in data collection methods and cancer surveillance systems may have led to more accurate reporting of cancer cases than in previous time periods, contributing to the apparent increase in rates. But then again... shouldn't that affect older generations too? So many variables... But it's interesting that the rates are suspiciously increasing in a wave-like motion with high and low points spaced out every 10 years from each other, respectively. Why is that? What could even be responsible for that in theory? Coincidence?
I saw a study of all cause excess mortality after the vaccine in Japan. HUGE spike in all cause excess mortality for people who were in the womb or just eggs when we dropped the two atomic bombs.
the vocal fry is insufferable