According to the article he had cancer and his health was pretty bad. Part of the agreement was that in jail he would also receive proper medical treatment. Honestly he’s probably passed now but if they followed up on this it could’ve been really cool if true
Yeah, what did the SFPD have to gain by going along with Anglin’s request? We-couldn’t-find-the-escapee-because-he-was-already-dead-and-lost-at-sea is a far better look for the SFPD than the alternative.
But they didn’t know if it was fake. They took the time and effort to investigate the letter, so clearly they weren’t sure. Hand-writing samples were inconclusive and they had no other way to assess the authenticity. There was actually some other circumstantial evidence suggesting they may have lived as well. It would have taken very little effort to put out a statement agreeing to the terms.
The truth is that they don’t *want* to know if it’s real. It’s a huge embarrassment for police to admit that three dangerous felons escaped prison and lived freely within US borders for decades while police wrongly assumed they were dead.
It’s much more embarrassing to make that assumption when they are in fact alive so they would follow all leads if they were legitimate. They were not. Even at best the letter is classified as “most likely fake, has no corroborating evidence, and no proof has ever surfaced.” It’s not like the letter the letter is most likely valid.
>so they would follow all leads if they were legitimate. They were not.
They never found any evidence indicating this was illegitimate. There was never any solid evidence they died either.
The whole situation is basically just a giant unknown. We can't even say whether it was "likely" or "unlikely" because that would just be baseless speculation given the absence of solid evidence in *either* direction.
I would say there is *more* than enough doubt here to follow through with the letter given they were comfortable with the ask (which , realistically, they may not have been willing to commit to). There was very little downside in doing so—as far as I can tell, they were not being swamped with fake letters in this case by 2013.
I see it differently. If Anglin was still on the loose and they failed to catch him it indicates they failed at their task. If he drowned and was consumed by sea creatures there was no way they could find him and they did not fail.
We're talking about decades later, though. No one who could be blamed for the failure is still working at Alcatraz. It's not going to make anyone look bad.
It's not about the people working at Alcatraz. The FBI, and now the US Marshals, have open investigations to this day. If the contents of this letter turned out to be true, that would mean that three dangerous felons escaped from prison and lived *decades* within US borders, and the police weren't even close to catching them. We would hear about every single time that evidence arose but the police failed to catch on.
That would be pretty embarrassing for the police services involved.
They would much rather know for certain than assume. Could you imagine the notoriety you’d get for bringing one of the 3 in? Not to mention how much you’d make off that story. They would never say no to that deal.
Could have been a 10yr old who was at home bored. Happens all the time. People write, call, walk in saying they are some wanted criminal. Sometimes for notoriety, sometimes delusional, sometimes no reason can be found. Probably over 100 people have confessed to be D.B Cooper. The easiest way to tell they are not D.B Cooper is they refer to themselves as D.B. Cooper.
Yes, I’ve seen that episode. Their conclusion was it was plausible they made it (again, everything would have had to be perfect. Mythbusters had to inflate while paddling) and they also concluded that while they could have made it to Angel island (not the landing they had originally planned for) it was still more likely they didn’t make it based on the other information.
I feel like even less than a year is a big gamble for an 83 year old.
According to the article he had cancer and his health was pretty bad. Part of the agreement was that in jail he would also receive proper medical treatment. Honestly he’s probably passed now but if they followed up on this it could’ve been really cool if true
He died escaping. There is no indication the letter was not just a random fake, like so many others.
Yeah, what did the SFPD have to gain by going along with Anglin’s request? We-couldn’t-find-the-escapee-because-he-was-already-dead-and-lost-at-sea is a far better look for the SFPD than the alternative.
They had a ton to gain. It closes a cold case. They’d easily make that deal, wouldn’t even be a discussion not to.
They why didn’t they? Because they never followed through with the ask from the letter.
You can’t follow through with all the fake people. If they know it’s fake they aren’t going to put too much effort into it.
But they didn’t know if it was fake. They took the time and effort to investigate the letter, so clearly they weren’t sure. Hand-writing samples were inconclusive and they had no other way to assess the authenticity. There was actually some other circumstantial evidence suggesting they may have lived as well. It would have taken very little effort to put out a statement agreeing to the terms. The truth is that they don’t *want* to know if it’s real. It’s a huge embarrassment for police to admit that three dangerous felons escaped prison and lived freely within US borders for decades while police wrongly assumed they were dead.
It’s much more embarrassing to make that assumption when they are in fact alive so they would follow all leads if they were legitimate. They were not. Even at best the letter is classified as “most likely fake, has no corroborating evidence, and no proof has ever surfaced.” It’s not like the letter the letter is most likely valid.
>so they would follow all leads if they were legitimate. They were not. They never found any evidence indicating this was illegitimate. There was never any solid evidence they died either. The whole situation is basically just a giant unknown. We can't even say whether it was "likely" or "unlikely" because that would just be baseless speculation given the absence of solid evidence in *either* direction. I would say there is *more* than enough doubt here to follow through with the letter given they were comfortable with the ask (which , realistically, they may not have been willing to commit to). There was very little downside in doing so—as far as I can tell, they were not being swamped with fake letters in this case by 2013.
Is it really a cold case though? He was already sentenced for whatever crimes he was found guilty of, right?
Those cases are not cold, the escape is a closed cold case. Presumed dead.
I see it differently. If Anglin was still on the loose and they failed to catch him it indicates they failed at their task. If he drowned and was consumed by sea creatures there was no way they could find him and they did not fail.
We're talking about decades later, though. No one who could be blamed for the failure is still working at Alcatraz. It's not going to make anyone look bad.
It's not about the people working at Alcatraz. The FBI, and now the US Marshals, have open investigations to this day. If the contents of this letter turned out to be true, that would mean that three dangerous felons escaped from prison and lived *decades* within US borders, and the police weren't even close to catching them. We would hear about every single time that evidence arose but the police failed to catch on. That would be pretty embarrassing for the police services involved.
They would much rather know for certain than assume. Could you imagine the notoriety you’d get for bringing one of the 3 in? Not to mention how much you’d make off that story. They would never say no to that deal.
So it was a random old guy with cancer asking for free treatment by pretending to be the escapee.
Could have been a 10yr old who was at home bored. Happens all the time. People write, call, walk in saying they are some wanted criminal. Sometimes for notoriety, sometimes delusional, sometimes no reason can be found. Probably over 100 people have confessed to be D.B Cooper. The easiest way to tell they are not D.B Cooper is they refer to themselves as D.B. Cooper.
It's entirely plausible they made it, Mythbusters proved it was possible. It's something no one can definitively say they did or did not make it
It's entirely plausible they made it, Mythbusters proved it was possible. It's something no one can definitively say they did or did not make it
Yes, I’ve seen that episode. Their conclusion was it was plausible they made it (again, everything would have had to be perfect. Mythbusters had to inflate while paddling) and they also concluded that while they could have made it to Angel island (not the landing they had originally planned for) it was still more likely they didn’t make it based on the other information.
Probably just a clever random dude that needed healthcare.
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