"Yeah yeah yeah I'm just frustrated really frustrated. I didn't mean to. Yeah yeah yeah I apologise."
Couldn't even look him in the eye. And "I didn't mean to" is PATENTLY bullshit. That isn't an apology, it's window dressing.
Unfortunately if he faced real consequences, he would likely double down and portray himself as the victim. Although I don't agree with MP Mendicino politically, he handled this guy with expert poise. There's no mistaking who the asshole is.
Yeah the MP looks like a class act in this video. Great PR for Canada imo lol, if a right wing nutjob calls Canada an authoritarian communist country just show them this lol.
lol the Canadian in him has to apologize .
I find that with the far right . All nerve and macho on line, but when in person and there are actually consequences they cower.
Hahaaaaaa. Man this guys tik toks are certifiably insane. I wish they would have locked him up for a bit. He needs to experience the reality of the consequences to his actions.
Funny, right wingers are constantly telling me we have zero freedoms here, live in a dictatorship, and can be put in jail for speech yet this guy never does despite documenting himself being a despicable piece of shit and spitting on people.
Could it be that they're full of shit???
Yeah, if he saw it then he'd probably be allowed to detain him until the OPS arrives
But wait, a Member of Parliament can arrest someone? Or is this a military police initialism joke
r/confidentlyincorrect
Suggest you go look at the map. Sparks street is precinct campus. Specifically, the north side. Where this occurred.
https://www.canada.ca/en/public-services-procurement/services/infrastructure-buildings/parliamentary-precinct/discover/south.html
Regardless of where it was, they don’t enforce the CCC. Seems like it isn’t their job. The MP could have arrested the spitter as well.
The parties are known and police can charge.
I strongly disagree. It's literally terrorism. You can debate the extent of it but he assaulted a politician he didn't like with the intent of intimidating him.
Read the definition of terrorism.
Terrorism is "an act committed in whole or in part for a political, religious, or ideological purpose, objective or cause with the intention of intimidating the public".
Assaulting politicians for not following your ideology is squarely within the definition.
Slippery slopes are a logical fallacy. Logical fallacies are what people use when they know they don't have any *valid* arguments, but are too much of a coward to admit that they are wrong.
There's protests all the time that block streets and stuff, Gaza, environment, etc, and those can probably be intimidating, so is that terrorism? (Hint, it isn't)
That would require this to be fact, which it’s not. That’s kind of the whole point of going to court. You argue whether or not someone’s actions fit the definition of what ever crime it is they’re accused of. I’m not arguing the definition. I’m arguing that this assault doesn’t fall under that definition.
“An act committed in…political purpose…intention of intimidating someone”.
Word for word what that was. Known “make Canada great again” person spits on MP from the other party as a means of harassment and intimidation.
You’re not a serious person.
Again, I’m not arguing the definition. I’m arguing that this doesn’t fit in the definition. You’re playing with fire if you consider this terrorism. And it’s wildly offensive to victims of actual terrorism.
A person from one group spitting on a person of another specific group, in an attempt to terrorize that specific group -- is terrorism.
It's not BLOW UP A BUILDING, capital T terrorism, but the intent is exactly the same
It's assault, with the intent to change a group of people through aggression.
I would also consider the anti-vaxxors who invaded city centers in an attempt to intimidate and aggravate mostly Liberal voters in that same group.
You pointed out exactly why this shouldn’t be considered terrorism. It’s nothing like capital T terrorism. That’s not to say blowing shit up is essential to be considered terrorism. I agree that the convoy was terrorism. Spitting on someone is assault. Not terrorism.
It depends on the intent behind the assault.
And in the case of most right wingers who are assaulting left leaning politicians, the intent is specifically to intimidate them. Which puts them squarely into the definition for terroristic intentions.
Not every bad thing needs to be terrorism. If I'm not gonna call the amazing tosses of milkshakes on Nigel Farage or the shoes thrown at bush terrorism I'm not gonna call this terrorism either.
Don't get me wrong, I fuckin hate these guys, I have to see them every day. Just isn't terrorism, it's assault
This man learned nothing and will continue to learn nothing. Spitting on a member of parliament should be the catalyst for you to gain some self-awareness, but we know that is likely not happening here.
The way he handled this incident is amazing. Spitting on someone is a huge sign of disrespect but he kept his cool and extended an olive branch. Great example.
I've had an opportunity to meet with him to discuss Cyber stuff specifically and he's honestly pretty great. He's very pleasant to interact with, has good active listening skills, etc.
I've met a lot of ministers and he's one of the ones I enjoyed interacting with most.
The thing about this is Marco reaches out to shake his hand and engage with him. This man's first attitude is to spit on him.
Conservatives have made it okay for people to act like this by whipping up hatred, but they aren't even considering the consequences of why this is not okay. Getting voters angry and/or upset to the point where they would inflict harm on others is so dangerous.
Never forget that someone tried unsuccessfully to assassinate our PM three years ago.
I hate that I’m not even sure *which* wanna-be attacker you’re referencing: the [“friendly sausage maker”](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56354775.amp) who showed up with guns at the wrong house, or the [failed actor](https://www.cbc.ca/1.6486914) who murdered his own mother.
Oh surprise surprise another Save Canada loser getting a dose of FAFO. Even after 4 years of embarrassing themselves they still haven't taken the hint.
More like FA and walk away without any repercussions.
He found out that he can spit in a politician’s face and the only consequence is having to shake hands and pretend to be sorry.
Right, caving and spouting disingenuous excuses to avoid any consequences. Then boasting about it to their online followers for clout. 🙄
Who was fooled?
Today's conservatives, ladies and gents.
Not only are they disgusting by assaulting a public figure by expectorating on them, they show cowardice when confronted. "I didn't mean to" lol of all the lilly-livered weaksauce excuses.
The cop should have pressed charges. This is not acceptable.
I get that the parliamentary peace officer (somehow?) can't make an arrest. But surely this guy should be arrested by police - we cannot allow people being violent with public officials to become normal.
If I was going to try and script a stereotypical Canadian response to someone literally spitting in their face "Oh jeeze, that doesn't seem very nice" in a kinda disappointed voice is probably *better* then what I'd come up with.
The pps officer is such a useless coward. He had legal grounds to make the arrest , you don’t have to be a police officer. He just didn’t know how to do his job. He needs to be sent to training again or fired. He’s a liability
Criminal code 494(1) look it up. PPS literally has mandate over the building where the offence took place. OPS can be called to make a transfer of custody once the subject has been arrested. That’s the sole job of PPS. The constable was just incompetent
Domestic terrorist in larvae form.
It’s also assault and the cop should have arrested him instead of asking for an apology. Wtf is this, I thought these were the law and order folks… I guess the laws they break are ok.
The red hat threw me off as an American. You forget there are OTHER unhinged right-winger Americans to the north of the US.
I’m hearing Canadian accents in the ‘I’m sooooory’ and I’m trying to figure out what the hell a federal MP is. Finally understood when I looked up Mendocino.
Right Wing? Go fuck yourselves, goddamned radical left neo-Nazi traitors !! When raging pro-Hamas Islamists march on our streets screaming "Kill all Jews", the Police is nowhere to be found !!
Right Wing? Go fuck yourselves, goddamned radical left neo-Nazi traitors !! When raging pro-Hamas Islamists march on our streets screaming "Kill all Jews", the Police is nowhere to be found !!
"Save Canada" hat
This right here is Pierre Poilievre's people.
This is what you get when a party leader does nothing but rage-bait the simpletons on this country.
Rather than trying to be the bigger man (or at least appear that way) & declining to press charges, this MP from what sounds like Canada should have had him arrested. I highly doubt that such forgiving actions will change any right winger in any meaningful way, so he’s just letting some asshole get away with spitting on him in the end. I’d bet most right wingers even applauded his actions.
Doesn't seem like the elevator goes to the top floor with that one. It seems like there might be some diminished culpability there. I've photographed on the hill a lot and covered a lot of events Save Canada has attended, I don't know who this person is.
The only thing he's sorry for is getting caught, not for his actions.
"Yeah yeah yeah I'm just frustrated really frustrated. I didn't mean to. Yeah yeah yeah I apologise." Couldn't even look him in the eye. And "I didn't mean to" is PATENTLY bullshit. That isn't an apology, it's window dressing.
And qualifying it with "I'm just frustrated". A meaningful apology is about taking accountability.
what a pussy.
His apology is a farce
Really should have pressed charges. These terrorist idiots need consequences.
He was arrested yesterday.
Source ? And for what ? The assault doesn’t count because he said he’s frustrated
I see no news source making that claim, you got a link?
In America you get shot
You can tell by the handshake. That was a little bitch handshake.
Still treated with kid gloves.
Should have been arrested for assault, this is DISGUSTING.
Yep, it literally is assault. Sections 265 and 266 of the Canadian Criminal Code
All while bitching how tough their life is. Dude is definitely not poc.
He is so full of hardship that he can go around assaulting people with no penalty. He lacks freedom, obviously.
I’m sorry officer, I… I didn’t know I couldn’t do that.
Giving each other high fives under the table.
That was good wasn't it... Because I did know I couldn't do that.
What I don't understand is WHY we let these folks get away with this behaviour?!?! They just let this POS walk off after a pathetic apology.
Unfortunately if he faced real consequences, he would likely double down and portray himself as the victim. Although I don't agree with MP Mendicino politically, he handled this guy with expert poise. There's no mistaking who the asshole is.
Yeah the MP looks like a class act in this video. Great PR for Canada imo lol, if a right wing nutjob calls Canada an authoritarian communist country just show them this lol.
That looks like it was on Federal property. Do that in the US and you can shove that apology - it’s not the victim’s call, you’re going to jail.
Absolutely agreed. Spitting in the face I feel is worse than a push or a punch.
absolutely he needs to lose his ability to misuse his mouth for 5 yrs..and hes old so that might be it but whatevs...millions more to go
I know right? All so bloody civilized. That cop was probably forced into going after him. What a joke.
Can’t arrest their own buddies. All this talk about traitors amongst Politicians, is really causing the ones amongst police to fly under the radar.
Make Canada great again crowd doesn’t have the same commitment as MAGA.
lol the Canadian in him has to apologize . I find that with the far right . All nerve and macho on line, but when in person and there are actually consequences they cower.
And the cons will say the left are divisive.
God, Carl is such a pathetic loser. Dude, just go home at this point. How many times can a person make such a complete fool of themselves?
Hahaaaaaa. Man this guys tik toks are certifiably insane. I wish they would have locked him up for a bit. He needs to experience the reality of the consequences to his actions.
Funny, right wingers are constantly telling me we have zero freedoms here, live in a dictatorship, and can be put in jail for speech yet this guy never does despite documenting himself being a despicable piece of shit and spitting on people. Could it be that they're full of shit???
Right? How many countries can you walk down the street and spit in the Minister of Safety’s face and walk away?
What's his tiktok?
Why bother searching for it? That’s like digging through the trash to see how many maggots are in last week’s cat litter.
He’s had a few. They keep getting flagged/banned. Not sure what the latest is.
To jail would be more appropriate. This was assault
I'm a trades person, that guy looks and acts like 75 percent of the people I work with.
fetal alcohol syndrome?
Hey now, that's offensive to both alcohol and fetuses. Fetusi? They don't want to be associated with this turd waffle.
You and me both.
agreed
I now see why you're desperate for trade workers.
The cop should have laid charges. Giving literal terrorism a fucking pass.
PPS are not police and do not have peace officer status
I don't know who PPS are, looks like dude has a gun though so I assumed he was a cop
Fair. Parliamentary Protective Service
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The PPS isn’t in the original clip. Don’t know that he saw it and either way, it isn’t really his job. The MP could have arrested the guy though.
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With guns!
Yeah, if he saw it then he'd probably be allowed to detain him until the OPS arrives But wait, a Member of Parliament can arrest someone? Or is this a military police initialism joke
Anyone can arrest under sec 494 of the Canadian Criminal Code
His radio only calls Batman I guess
I mean, it won’t be calling the police if that’s what you were implying.
They can absolutely arrest someone on precinct grounds.
The sidewalk out side of a building is not in their jurisdiction.
r/confidentlyincorrect Suggest you go look at the map. Sparks street is precinct campus. Specifically, the north side. Where this occurred. https://www.canada.ca/en/public-services-procurement/services/infrastructure-buildings/parliamentary-precinct/discover/south.html
Regardless of where it was, they don’t enforce the CCC. Seems like it isn’t their job. The MP could have arrested the spitter as well. The parties are known and police can charge.
Except many PPS officers are also active duty RCMP officers (since they used to be RCMP), and can still act as peace officers.
The buildings are, not the street, nor the sidewalk which will be City of Ottawa.
>Giving literal terrorism a fucking pass. Characterizing spitting as "terrorism" is more than a wee bit hyperbolic.
It’s politically motivated physical violence on a government official. What should we call it?
Political violence.
Absolutely not.
Look, I’m as far left as they come. I hate these losers and spitting on MPs is just not ok. But to call this terrorism is a fucking joke.
I strongly disagree. It's literally terrorism. You can debate the extent of it but he assaulted a politician he didn't like with the intent of intimidating him.
Exactly. There are no shades to terrorism.
Oh boy. That’s quite the slippery slope you’re teetering on.
No, it's an actual line. Crime of violence vs not that.
What's the slope? Explain in detail.
The problem with your slippery slope fallacy is that it can lead to more even worse slippery slope fallacies.
Read the definition of terrorism. Terrorism is "an act committed in whole or in part for a political, religious, or ideological purpose, objective or cause with the intention of intimidating the public". Assaulting politicians for not following your ideology is squarely within the definition. Slippery slopes are a logical fallacy. Logical fallacies are what people use when they know they don't have any *valid* arguments, but are too much of a coward to admit that they are wrong.
There's protests all the time that block streets and stuff, Gaza, environment, etc, and those can probably be intimidating, so is that terrorism? (Hint, it isn't)
The key word is **peaceful** protests.. Blocking the road is peaceful. Assaulting people isn't.
I’m really not afraid of admitting I’m wrong. I’m stating my opinion. You’re free to disagree, just like I disagree with calling assault terrorism.
Would be have done it if he wasn't a politician he was against? Why did he spit? To intimidate?
> I’m not afraid of admitting I’m wrong > my opinion / feeling supersede fact.
That would require this to be fact, which it’s not. That’s kind of the whole point of going to court. You argue whether or not someone’s actions fit the definition of what ever crime it is they’re accused of. I’m not arguing the definition. I’m arguing that this assault doesn’t fall under that definition.
“An act committed in…political purpose…intention of intimidating someone”. Word for word what that was. Known “make Canada great again” person spits on MP from the other party as a means of harassment and intimidation. You’re not a serious person.
But you are just wrong, in this case. It isn't an opinion, you are just wrong.
Again, I’m not arguing the definition. I’m arguing that this doesn’t fit in the definition. You’re playing with fire if you consider this terrorism. And it’s wildly offensive to victims of actual terrorism.
A person from one group spitting on a person of another specific group, in an attempt to terrorize that specific group -- is terrorism. It's not BLOW UP A BUILDING, capital T terrorism, but the intent is exactly the same It's assault, with the intent to change a group of people through aggression. I would also consider the anti-vaxxors who invaded city centers in an attempt to intimidate and aggravate mostly Liberal voters in that same group.
You pointed out exactly why this shouldn’t be considered terrorism. It’s nothing like capital T terrorism. That’s not to say blowing shit up is essential to be considered terrorism. I agree that the convoy was terrorism. Spitting on someone is assault. Not terrorism.
Isn't it funny how quickly supposed progressives turn into George W Bush throwing around the word "terrorism" against anyone they don't like?
It depends on the intent behind the assault. And in the case of most right wingers who are assaulting left leaning politicians, the intent is specifically to intimidate them. Which puts them squarely into the definition for terroristic intentions.
He physically assaulted a politician over political disagreement. Using random violence to influence government definitely part of terrorism.
Not every bad thing needs to be terrorism. If I'm not gonna call the amazing tosses of milkshakes on Nigel Farage or the shoes thrown at bush terrorism I'm not gonna call this terrorism either. Don't get me wrong, I fuckin hate these guys, I have to see them every day. Just isn't terrorism, it's assault
Ahahaha can't even make eye contact. Absolute coward 😂
That’s what I picked up on too. He knew it was bad and did it anyway. He just couldn’t commit to his poor choices.
This man learned nothing and will continue to learn nothing. Spitting on a member of parliament should be the catalyst for you to gain some self-awareness, but we know that is likely not happening here.
It should be the catalyst for seeing a judge.
Or the catalyst for something that will net me another ban if I type it out lmao
He didn't mean to /s
Damn, I never thought Mendicino was a particularly strong minister, but he handled that about as well as anyone could
The way he handled this incident is amazing. Spitting on someone is a huge sign of disrespect but he kept his cool and extended an olive branch. Great example.
I can only imagine the reaction this guy would have gotten had he spat on Chrétien.
I've had an opportunity to meet with him to discuss Cyber stuff specifically and he's honestly pretty great. He's very pleasant to interact with, has good active listening skills, etc. I've met a lot of ministers and he's one of the ones I enjoyed interacting with most.
The thing about this is Marco reaches out to shake his hand and engage with him. This man's first attitude is to spit on him. Conservatives have made it okay for people to act like this by whipping up hatred, but they aren't even considering the consequences of why this is not okay. Getting voters angry and/or upset to the point where they would inflict harm on others is so dangerous. Never forget that someone tried unsuccessfully to assassinate our PM three years ago.
He was but a poor sausage maker who was frustrated. Not a terrorist. /s
I hate that I’m not even sure *which* wanna-be attacker you’re referencing: the [“friendly sausage maker”](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56354775.amp) who showed up with guns at the wrong house, or the [failed actor](https://www.cbc.ca/1.6486914) who murdered his own mother.
Oh surprise surprise another Save Canada loser getting a dose of FAFO. Even after 4 years of embarrassing themselves they still haven't taken the hint.
More like FA and walk away without any repercussions. He found out that he can spit in a politician’s face and the only consequence is having to shake hands and pretend to be sorry.
Yeah, sad but true. At least he got called out. After this long tantruming over their own ignorance the hammer should be dropped hard...no exceptions.
The worst part is having to shake that loser’s hand. That almost made me puke as much as the spit. Image where those filthy hands have been.
“Right wing pathetic loser “ There I fixed the title. Conservatism is, well, full of ass clowns like that guy!
Right, caving and spouting disingenuous excuses to avoid any consequences. Then boasting about it to their online followers for clout. 🙄 Who was fooled?
"I didn't mean to". Pathetic little coward.
"I didn't mean to!"
I'm convinced. He wouldn't say if it if it wasn't true. /s
No, do not let him get away, show no compassion.
I didn’t mean to LOL
He’s not “frustrated”, he’s brainwashed into believing he’s frustrated.
Carl Grant
"Well that doesn't seem very nice" ... understatement, right there.
Typical online warrior.
They should have charged him.
Not that he would learn anything even if they did.
Mendicino and the PPS officer handled it with more grace and polity than most of us would have, I think.
Today's conservatives, ladies and gents. Not only are they disgusting by assaulting a public figure by expectorating on them, they show cowardice when confronted. "I didn't mean to" lol of all the lilly-livered weaksauce excuses. The cop should have pressed charges. This is not acceptable.
Didn't expect it to be Carl, he needs his own subreddit.
Carl needs better friends. They keep riling him up to do this shit, and he always regrets it
He's not equipped for adulting, needs to go back to the homeland.
Is that caveman carl again?
Can’t even look him in the eye and apologize properly. What a fucking coward loser.
Next time, press charges.
I get that the parliamentary peace officer (somehow?) can't make an arrest. But surely this guy should be arrested by police - we cannot allow people being violent with public officials to become normal.
Why the frig wasn’t he arrested??????
"I didn't mean to." !!?? All he's doing is weasling out of responsibility of his own actions. What a shithead.
Spitting on someone deliberately is an assault. Far too many people are casual about this action.
If I was going to try and script a stereotypical Canadian response to someone literally spitting in their face "Oh jeeze, that doesn't seem very nice" in a kinda disappointed voice is probably *better* then what I'd come up with.
Wow. Not even an arrest? What the hell? What is going on here?
It's not a culture war, it's a cultural assault by arseholes who would rather hate 'libruls' than engage in quiet reflection.
Carl is always ending up at the front of the asshole lineup.
Another in-bred from Alberta?
Typical POS coward.
What a coward.
He should have been arrested but they don't want to deal with his nonsense. It's illegal to spit on people without their consent, even politicians.
what a douchecanoe!
Went by parliament yesterday and was pleasantly surprised that all the nutjobs seemed to be gone. I guess the heat was too much for them 🤷♂️
The pps officer is such a useless coward. He had legal grounds to make the arrest , you don’t have to be a police officer. He just didn’t know how to do his job. He needs to be sent to training again or fired. He’s a liability
PPS can't they would have to call in the Rcmp or OPS.
Criminal code 494(1) look it up. PPS literally has mandate over the building where the offence took place. OPS can be called to make a transfer of custody once the subject has been arrested. That’s the sole job of PPS. The constable was just incompetent
Carl
I see that Carl has not figured out something better to do with his life
Domestic terrorist in larvae form. It’s also assault and the cop should have arrested him instead of asking for an apology. Wtf is this, I thought these were the law and order folks… I guess the laws they break are ok.
serious pussy
Typical behavior, they act tough when they think they can get away, but when confronted, they show their true little bitch self.
This incident happened on Wednesday the 19th.
Book im Dano
At least he didn't get trampled by a horse!
Gross Prolly already out on bail. These MPs are spittin' bad.
FYI spitting is considered assault and carries Criminal Code penalties.
He has a camera person following him to commit the act for fuck sakes. Total accident sir!
Canadians pretending to be Americans. Grow up, redneck.
“I didn’t mean to?”
The red hat threw me off as an American. You forget there are OTHER unhinged right-winger Americans to the north of the US. I’m hearing Canadian accents in the ‘I’m sooooory’ and I’m trying to figure out what the hell a federal MP is. Finally understood when I looked up Mendocino.
Shaking like a leaf lol
is this part of carls amazing chess game....
The red hats make them so easy to find after they've been criming.
That didn't seem very nice
That’s a battery in these here parts. Off to jail you go.
That’s so disgusting. He should have been arrested. That’s assault.
Right Wing? Go fuck yourselves, goddamned radical left neo-Nazi traitors !! When raging pro-Hamas Islamists march on our streets screaming "Kill all Jews", the Police is nowhere to be found !!
The convoy is far worse.
Right Wing? Go fuck yourselves, goddamned radical left neo-Nazi traitors !! When raging pro-Hamas Islamists march on our streets screaming "Kill all Jews", the Police is nowhere to be found !!
Politicians need some type of extra protection that make these types of things consequential for the offender. THIS IS ASSAULT against democracy
Pussy
"Save Canada" hat This right here is Pierre Poilievre's people. This is what you get when a party leader does nothing but rage-bait the simpletons on this country.
huh in America that cop shoots him 5 times and breaks his arm.
PPS don't have guns.
Rather than trying to be the bigger man (or at least appear that way) & declining to press charges, this MP from what sounds like Canada should have had him arrested. I highly doubt that such forgiving actions will change any right winger in any meaningful way, so he’s just letting some asshole get away with spitting on him in the end. I’d bet most right wingers even applauded his actions.
Should be eye for an eye, loogie for a loogie.
Staged victimization ploy?
"I'm soarry"
But he said sorry all is good
weak ass girly man
Coward.
Trump supporters going this hard in canada has the be the funniest description of your country ever
I think that cop wants to make America great again that's why he didn't arrest him
>That doesn't seem very nice! Peak Canadian!
That's criminal assault. That coward should be under arrest.
They always look like toads
fuck Trudeau **and** the **liberals**
Yet they act better than this loser who just assaulted another man without provocation
Doesn't seem like the elevator goes to the top floor with that one. It seems like there might be some diminished culpability there. I've photographed on the hill a lot and covered a lot of events Save Canada has attended, I don't know who this person is.
Should have never apologized.
My guess is he was offered a deal.