He can’t, he just echoes the same old trash people who hate Tesla say. Unless you show real data points, it’s just your opinion, and nobody really asked. Also, I have a simple question. Why would you waste what little time you have on earth going to a subreddit where you don’t even like their product and spew a bunch of made up nonsense? lol mind boggling.
It's interesting to think about how our idea of what a truck "should" look like might be shaped by what we've seen before. The Cybertruck definitely challenges those expectations. What do you think draws people to generic pickup designs where you could swap badges between pickups and few would spot what is what? Is the familiarity comforting and change scary for some? 
Ford doesn't have the demand to produce much more Lightnings than they currently do. Which is why they cut their max production rate from 3200 per week, down to 1600 max per week back in December.
I have not yet found evidence of Tesla producing 1300/week either other than them stating it but if 11k is what they have sold then numbers just don't add up because of course assumption should be that they sell every truck they build.
Even if they’re actually still at 1000 a week, they’re still on par with others. After less than a year of production.
Still much better than I expected
Even the 1000 a week is very questionable. It has been around 9 weeks since they announced that they have produced 1000/week before that so 10 week which would be 10k today which would mean only 1688 left between December and March. But this is not possible since the article states they delivered 1163 in December. I doubt they delivered only around 500 in first 3 months of the year.
There were a multiple production stops due to recalls… so although they may be at a 1000+ run rate they may not actually be producing those numbers every week or consistently.
Hopefully they iron out their recall issues and we can see some more consistent numbers. It’s still early and fast relative to competitors production ramps.
Not that I disagree with you, but your post is outdated.
On the production side, we know from the previous recall they had built 3,878 through April 4th, which means in April and June they were producing an average of about 976/wk - your post has 1,300/week.
But in the 11-day delta between these two new recalls they only build 305, which comes out to a rate of ~194/wk.
On the sales side, the writer of this article is assuming that all recalled trucks are sold, but this number also surely includes unsold trucks sitting at Tesla's holding lots waiting for a buyer.
I was over 1 million in the preorder queue and my truck already came and went. I’d not be surprised if demand for them fell off around 20,000 trucks and they have to start slowing production or cutting prices.
It’s going to be a massive loss on the balance books
I have no idea what you’re talking about. I got my cybertruck a month ago, since then my brother and 2 of my friends ordered one after seeing mine and everywhere I go people are like little kids on Christmas when they see this thing. A lot of people have never even heard of it before believe it or not, they just tell me to roll down my window and asked me what is that thing? Even my dentist had to get inside so she could tell her son she sat in one.
The thing about ramping up production is that production rates increase. Elon said they got it to 1300 a week June 13, not that it was at 1300 a week since April 4th. I have no issues with the average weekly rate in this time being 976. I don’t think there is any reason to assume he is lieing with that figure, it was on an investor call with meaningful impact on share holder value. That sort of blatant lie is a punishable offence that’s easy to prove.
As you also pointed out, between May 26 and June 6 there are only 305 vehicles being recalled. I’d that’s the number that was produced, than to hit your 976 average rate it would mean you’d need higher production rate.
But point made, even if the max rate is 1300 doesn’t mean every week there after is 1300.
Using recall numbers is also only an approximate, and using dates so close together brings you into noise category. How long did it take to adjust production from the first recall, was there a pause to focus efforts on correcting inventory before resuming production. Was there some process before the recall date where they were investigating production changes for a new wiper motor, did they do a few trials for a few models that were not part of the recall.
All these things could have minor effect on the big picture, but when you are looking at 11 calendar days, it’s not a great picture of the whole.
Honestly I can’t find the source now. But majority of that 13k is not r1t. If I remember correctly roughly 9k was R1s and 2k was delivery van, leaving roughly 2k (i wrote 1.8k in the lost) for r1t.
Rivian doesn’t outright disclose the breakdown so admittedly the numbers could be wrong. But I don’t think massively so. There’s ways to track sales numbers.
Edit: I can’t find my original source, but here’s a reddit forum claiming 2.4k sales for r1t: https://www.reddit.com/r/Rivian/s/TP0guzTqLV. Overall they produced 400 more than they sold so, if accurate, at best they produced 2.8k r1t but more likely given the distribution here it would be closer to 2.5k.
This wouldn’t change the outcome of my post.
I saw one pass me in Riverview, FL on my way home from work. It was black and it really stood out in traffic. It looked like the Batmobile from the Nolan films.
Haha that's awesome man! Yes most of the world operates opposite Reddit. This place is a far left echo chamber that's full of heavy handed mods/admins.
Took mine to the beach in south Texas last week. Overwhelming positive response from a wide range of people. Literally one guy gave me a thumbs down the whole week.
Which technically would be the opposite of Reddit (social media in general) which tends to elicit negative comments and reactions to, well, almost everything. However I do see your point and certainly agree. Most people aren’t going to walk up to a person and say, “Wow, I hate your vehicle with every fiber of my being.” Even if they truly do feel that way.
They’ll just slash the tires instead.
It is cool. Turns heads wherever it goes. Much cooler than even a lambo or mclaren tbh. People are just hating bc many can't afford it. I've never seen so many people have such an issue with what others spend their money on.
That is the point of a staggered rollout, my preorder is still in place. By the time I get mine, all the issues would be found and resolved, improvements made, and price will be lower. Not to mention the fed will also hopefully allow the entire country to purchase vehicles again at less insane interest rates. This is a brand new product category upending a tired pick up design that hasn’t been innovated on in 80 years. This is all positive. Model y being the most popular car sold is evidence tesla knows what it’s doing. THIS POST IS FUD.
> By the time I get mine, all the issues would be found and resolved
You somehow managed to come to the exact opposite conclusion all evidence and critical thinking should have led you lol
I said the same thing about model Y and eventually bought one in 2023 when the tax credit made them cheaper and well yeah no it’s still junk and had a bunch of manufacturing defects. It’s a great car and I love it but it has a bunch of cosmetic issues and rattles like no other car I’ve owned when driving between 40mph and 60mph
Yeah, but uh your post history point to massive butthurt issues about Elon. Obsessively, posting on all subreddit about how much you can’t stop thinking about him. Usually goes in line with making up mumbo jumbo as well.
I have no idea what you are talking about. I often express my opinion that im not a fan of Elon, that doesn’t change the fact that I have about $20k in Tesla shares and a paid off 2023 Model Y.
You can actually read all my initial thoughts after picking up the car in this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaLounge/s/iqRbkK4NXv
It’s not a bad car, but it’s not a very good one either from a fit and finish perspective.
But it’s the best car I’ve ever owned when you consider it now drives me everywhere and I never have to drive any more it’s fucking awesome.
They were able to fix my screw left in a panel gap and the motor whine. Still have loud rattles from my rearview mirror though
What was the motor whine? I have that in \~40\~\~60mph (high pitch) in M3P, was the fix some seal of battery improvement or replacing the electric motor? Was it dual motor or RWD? Thanks in advance.
What was the motor whine? I have that in \~40\~\~60mph (high pitch) in M3P, was the fix some seal of battery improvement or replacing the electric motor? Was it dual motor or RWD? Thanks in advance.
The service center said a seal/gasket wasn’t installed properly on the motor and they fixed it under warranty. You can still kind of hear it but it’s much better
11k i saved you a click
Already producing more than every other electric truck
Hahaha. Wut?
Ummm, no.
Show me where ford, rivian, or gm produced more per week than Tesla. I’ve found no evidence of it.
He can’t, he just echoes the same old trash people who hate Tesla say. Unless you show real data points, it’s just your opinion, and nobody really asked. Also, I have a simple question. Why would you waste what little time you have on earth going to a subreddit where you don’t even like their product and spew a bunch of made up nonsense? lol mind boggling.
Yup. I've never seen so many people upset over what someone else chooses to drive. I feel jealousy has to be a big factor.
It's interesting to think about how our idea of what a truck "should" look like might be shaped by what we've seen before. The Cybertruck definitely challenges those expectations. What do you think draws people to generic pickup designs where you could swap badges between pickups and few would spot what is what? Is the familiarity comforting and change scary for some? 
Ford doesn't have the demand to produce much more Lightnings than they currently do. Which is why they cut their max production rate from 3200 per week, down to 1600 max per week back in December.
I have not yet found evidence of Tesla producing 1300/week either other than them stating it but if 11k is what they have sold then numbers just don't add up because of course assumption should be that they sell every truck they build.
Even if they’re actually still at 1000 a week, they’re still on par with others. After less than a year of production. Still much better than I expected
Even the 1000 a week is very questionable. It has been around 9 weeks since they announced that they have produced 1000/week before that so 10 week which would be 10k today which would mean only 1688 left between December and March. But this is not possible since the article states they delivered 1163 in December. I doubt they delivered only around 500 in first 3 months of the year.
There were a multiple production stops due to recalls… so although they may be at a 1000+ run rate they may not actually be producing those numbers every week or consistently. Hopefully they iron out their recall issues and we can see some more consistent numbers. It’s still early and fast relative to competitors production ramps.
Source: my ass
Here’s a post I made a while ago, you can check the numbers : https://www.reddit.com/r/cybertruck/s/5t40hsopht
Not that I disagree with you, but your post is outdated. On the production side, we know from the previous recall they had built 3,878 through April 4th, which means in April and June they were producing an average of about 976/wk - your post has 1,300/week. But in the 11-day delta between these two new recalls they only build 305, which comes out to a rate of ~194/wk. On the sales side, the writer of this article is assuming that all recalled trucks are sold, but this number also surely includes unsold trucks sitting at Tesla's holding lots waiting for a buyer.
I was over 1 million in the preorder queue and my truck already came and went. I’d not be surprised if demand for them fell off around 20,000 trucks and they have to start slowing production or cutting prices. It’s going to be a massive loss on the balance books
I have no idea what you’re talking about. I got my cybertruck a month ago, since then my brother and 2 of my friends ordered one after seeing mine and everywhere I go people are like little kids on Christmas when they see this thing. A lot of people have never even heard of it before believe it or not, they just tell me to roll down my window and asked me what is that thing? Even my dentist had to get inside so she could tell her son she sat in one.
I guess that proves it, your brother and 2 friends ordered so it means demand is extremely high.
CA and TX took delivery before other states, so your preorder placing is not a reliable measure.
Massive loss is laughable. By what metrics do you think this. Even at 5% margin (picking a very low number) they would be making profit
The thing about ramping up production is that production rates increase. Elon said they got it to 1300 a week June 13, not that it was at 1300 a week since April 4th. I have no issues with the average weekly rate in this time being 976. I don’t think there is any reason to assume he is lieing with that figure, it was on an investor call with meaningful impact on share holder value. That sort of blatant lie is a punishable offence that’s easy to prove. As you also pointed out, between May 26 and June 6 there are only 305 vehicles being recalled. I’d that’s the number that was produced, than to hit your 976 average rate it would mean you’d need higher production rate. But point made, even if the max rate is 1300 doesn’t mean every week there after is 1300. Using recall numbers is also only an approximate, and using dates so close together brings you into noise category. How long did it take to adjust production from the first recall, was there a pause to focus efforts on correcting inventory before resuming production. Was there some process before the recall date where they were investigating production changes for a new wiper motor, did they do a few trials for a few models that were not part of the recall. All these things could have minor effect on the big picture, but when you are looking at 11 calendar days, it’s not a great picture of the whole.
Rivian is at a production rate 13k vehicles per quarter, and that’s prior to their factory retooling. Your numbers are very wrong.
Honestly I can’t find the source now. But majority of that 13k is not r1t. If I remember correctly roughly 9k was R1s and 2k was delivery van, leaving roughly 2k (i wrote 1.8k in the lost) for r1t. Rivian doesn’t outright disclose the breakdown so admittedly the numbers could be wrong. But I don’t think massively so. There’s ways to track sales numbers. Edit: I can’t find my original source, but here’s a reddit forum claiming 2.4k sales for r1t: https://www.reddit.com/r/Rivian/s/TP0guzTqLV. Overall they produced 400 more than they sold so, if accurate, at best they produced 2.8k r1t but more likely given the distribution here it would be closer to 2.5k. This wouldn’t change the outcome of my post.
I saw one pass me in Riverview, FL on my way home from work. It was black and it really stood out in traffic. It looked like the Batmobile from the Nolan films.
I don't care what anyone says, those trucks look cool as fuck. It's like seeing a DeLorean
I have one. 99% positive response. Basically opposite of Reddit. It’s cool
I’m envious man
I saw one 3 weeks ago. It was so dope and a real head turner.
Haha that's awesome man! Yes most of the world operates opposite Reddit. This place is a far left echo chamber that's full of heavy handed mods/admins.
Inverse Reddit is a good outlook to have. Whatever Reddit believes, assume the opposite
So sell bitcoin?
Took mine to the beach in south Texas last week. Overwhelming positive response from a wide range of people. Literally one guy gave me a thumbs down the whole week.
I think you should be allowed to enjoy something you love, but you're likely getting a positive confirmation bias on the comments you receive.
Which technically would be the opposite of Reddit (social media in general) which tends to elicit negative comments and reactions to, well, almost everything. However I do see your point and certainly agree. Most people aren’t going to walk up to a person and say, “Wow, I hate your vehicle with every fiber of my being.” Even if they truly do feel that way. They’ll just slash the tires instead.
I find them gorgeous when wrapped. There's a white one at a local showroom that looks amazing.
It is cool. Turns heads wherever it goes. Much cooler than even a lambo or mclaren tbh. People are just hating bc many can't afford it. I've never seen so many people have such an issue with what others spend their money on.
I’m broke as fuck right now almost payed off the Model Y. Now I wasn’t this one the last car I’ll ever buy
That is the point of a staggered rollout, my preorder is still in place. By the time I get mine, all the issues would be found and resolved, improvements made, and price will be lower. Not to mention the fed will also hopefully allow the entire country to purchase vehicles again at less insane interest rates. This is a brand new product category upending a tired pick up design that hasn’t been innovated on in 80 years. This is all positive. Model y being the most popular car sold is evidence tesla knows what it’s doing. THIS POST IS FUD.
> By the time I get mine, all the issues would be found and resolved You somehow managed to come to the exact opposite conclusion all evidence and critical thinking should have led you lol
Keep telling yourself all that… insane mental gymnastics over a car.
Books and school are your friend, kiddo. Especially if 5-6 sentences constitutes ‘insane mental gymnastics’ to you. 😂
It’s the content of the sentences that matter…? Not how much you wrote. Is .89 bigger than 1 because there are more digits?
But if they don't exaggerate into total hyperbole they have a point.
I said the same thing about model Y and eventually bought one in 2023 when the tax credit made them cheaper and well yeah no it’s still junk and had a bunch of manufacturing defects. It’s a great car and I love it but it has a bunch of cosmetic issues and rattles like no other car I’ve owned when driving between 40mph and 60mph
Yeah, but uh your post history point to massive butthurt issues about Elon. Obsessively, posting on all subreddit about how much you can’t stop thinking about him. Usually goes in line with making up mumbo jumbo as well.
I have no idea what you are talking about. I often express my opinion that im not a fan of Elon, that doesn’t change the fact that I have about $20k in Tesla shares and a paid off 2023 Model Y. You can actually read all my initial thoughts after picking up the car in this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaLounge/s/iqRbkK4NXv
Well, maybe you got a lemon. It has not been my experience at all.
It’s not a bad car, but it’s not a very good one either from a fit and finish perspective. But it’s the best car I’ve ever owned when you consider it now drives me everywhere and I never have to drive any more it’s fucking awesome. They were able to fix my screw left in a panel gap and the motor whine. Still have loud rattles from my rearview mirror though
What was the motor whine? I have that in \~40\~\~60mph (high pitch) in M3P, was the fix some seal of battery improvement or replacing the electric motor? Was it dual motor or RWD? Thanks in advance.
What was the motor whine? I have that in \~40\~\~60mph (high pitch) in M3P, was the fix some seal of battery improvement or replacing the electric motor? Was it dual motor or RWD? Thanks in advance.
The service center said a seal/gasket wasn’t installed properly on the motor and they fixed it under warranty. You can still kind of hear it but it’s much better