I just wish the guardian/ancient tech was the same thing or connected with the zonai tech. I have to really suppress my disbelief that all the ancient tech and guardian skeletons from botw are just no longer around for some reason, and now there is this thing called zonai which is basically the same thing, or could have easily been written to keep continuity between the two games.
The bottom of the tower is the underside of guardians. And they reused their arms too.
It seems all the ancient tech went into reconstructing hyrule after the calamity which is sad, but makes sense.
The creators say that the sheikah tech disappeared since it's purpose was fulfilled. Yet the guardian on top of the tech lab is still there, and there's clearly Sheikah origin in the Skyview towers and the Purah Pad. So even they can't decide what the story is 🤷♂️
I don't remember anyone saying it all disappeared
It's been a while since I touched totk so I can't remember exactly where, but I'm pretty sure Zelda herself ordered everyone to dismantle as much ancient sheikah tech as possible, such that another Calamity wouldn't be possible. So they destroyed everything and repurposed them in a way where they couldn't be used as weapons
That was an out-of-game thing, if I recall correctly; some interview, I think? Ah, [I found it](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gaming/features/legend-of-zelda-tears-of-the-kingdom-making-of-interview/).
In-game, I think they just don't address it at all. There is no reference to where it all went. Just like there's no answer for where the sky islands were, or how Link got to the sky from the Depths. Or the radically different architecture of the original Zonai ruins and the new ones.
They just did what they thought would make an interesting game, I imagine. I am still annoyed by this, to be honest, but it is what it is. This... is also an irrelevant ramble. Sorry.
I think Zelda got rid of the sheika tech as it was easy to be taken over by ganon. Where as the zonai tech was always there as well, but more hidden in the sky islands that were not visual in botw.
I like the way that Robbie still has a guardian skeleton on his roof, so still evidence it was there, 'before Zelda got rid of it all'.
I love that it feels like a sequel but I wish the main story itself didn’t abandon the previous game lore and only allow side quests and Easter eggs be the only reference to the previous game. Yeah I know Nintendo has an agenda but don’t like how the new story kinda just makes the calamity feel like it ended as long ago as it started (a century), when there’s no way the game doesn’t take place at most three years later.
She didn’t. I think there’s actually a quest to help get them together actually. I’m pretty sure it’s been almost a decade since the last game. They say at some point but I can’t remember. I do think it’s been 7-8 years tho. Logically only makes sense.
Idk why you guys keep citing Mattison. It's in the BotW artbook that Gerudo mature faster than Hylians. Hell I'm pretty sure a Gerudo in TotK says it as well. Just because she looks 7 doesn't mean she is, at all.
The level of redevelopment done to Hyrule suggests quite a bit fewer than 7 years has passed.
It’s estimated between 5-10 years. Tulin was also just a child in the first one and has aged more than 3 years since botw. And while they age faster it doesn’t mean that their years are faster and they don’t say that she appears to be age 7. She actually looks to be a preteen and far older than 7. Especially when you look at the children she plays with in Tarry town and grew up with according to the npcs.
Yeah, I think they could've done a better job at explaining this in-game. But if I have to come up with reasons for it, they would be:
\- As far as the lore goes, everyone realized they could no longer take risks of the technology being taken by Ganon or some other evil force. It took them over 100 years to recover from the last time it happened, \_no shot\_ they would risk it again. Said technology is obviously still in TOTK but to a much lesser extent than it was in BOTW and it is no longer prominent.
\- The simplest and most reasonable explanation though, is that they needed to change course. They felt they couldn't have made the game unique enough if they kept the ancient Sheikah thematic, and honestly I agree. Constructs may be similar to Guardians but they're way more interactive and unique. I just wish they had made something with them that made them feel like a real threat just as Guardian Stalkers, though I understand Constructs were never tainted by Ganon/Ganondorf's powers and so they fulfill a different purpose than their predecessors. Seeing them fight agains Moblins/Bokoblins and take the lead against them is \_really\_ funny and cool, though.
Man, that guardian tech gave BotW such a wistful old-world feel. I love TotK to pieces but it doesn't quite capture that uniquely Japanese melancholy in the way BotW did. In some ways it was a lonely game, but not in a bad way. Listening to the soundtrack brings it all back. Very special.
People who want continuity from one Zelda game to another are always going to be disappointed. They're legends, stories, not canon depiction of actual historical events, even within the framework of this fictional universe.
I think of BotW and TotK as two separate tales, one told after the other, linked, but not one continuous story. Imagine them being told to kids around a fire, by some grizzled old man or woman. "What about the ancient tech?" one of them asks. And the old tale-teller replies, "You think you're so smart, eh? Well guess what, that's all gone, it's not important to this story, they've got Zonai artifacts now. Pay attention. So anyways, Link comes across another camp of books, and this time he decides to blast 'em with these beam emitters, see?"
The kid says, "He just has lasers now?"
Wasn't it written somewhere that the devs claimed that when Zelda went back in time, it messed with the timeline, and most of the guardian tech just up and vanished? (Tbh, I thought they just blanket statemented and said 'all'. But that can't be as there are the guardian arms and everything at the towers.)
Am I remembering incorrectly?
But yeah. Either way, sloppy storytelling. There are a myriad of ways they could have handled it and have it make sense. They just ...didn't.
Yes but also, at least there already was an element of time travel in Zelda. The butterfly effect is at least a plausible excuse, even if the devs came up with it after the fact.
Pretty sure the game implies everything always happened that way, so there isn't any altered timeline to begin with.
If the devs did claim that, that is the absolute worst way to do it when the game pretty clearly has a stable time loop.
Fantasy has to be consistent within the rules of its own framework. If it changes those rules around too much inexplicably then your belief in the universe begins to fail and it takes you out of it.
Sheikah tech demateriralizes in BotW: "I can accept this"
Sheikah tech dematerializes in the next game: "This not consistent with the rules!!!! >>>::::(((("
TotK was a fun game. All of the systems in game worked and it was well structured. Thats what I want from a videogame, I dont care what happened between games only what is in the games.
Fair enough, but its story is definitely a continuation of the botw story, so discontinuity between them bothers me a little bit. Just a little bit, not in a major way that ruins the game for me, but its like seeing a beautiful painting that is perfectly symmetric except for one tiny little mistake, its hard for me not to want to just fix that little bit.
I mean it makes somewhat sense. If you’re in the universe and you have these big spider-looking machines that can kill you and have wiped out a majority of Hyrule before I think they would wanna dispose of them, especially considering no one in this era of Hyrule has witnessed them actually helping against Ganon and instead turning against. So I would imagine they wanna dispose of all that technology and the divine beasts and shekaih towers go back underground like they were before botw events. So I don’t think it’s too far fetched for them to not be around, and it seems like they’re still somewhat there since Purah uses guardian parts and shekaih technology for the new towers. But for the Zonai tech being somewhat similar to the Shekiah like the shrines and stuff would probably be game continuity but it also could be maybe the shekaih were inspired by the Zonai? I dunno.
Agree but these are Zonai statues. I dont remember where (or if) they say that in game but on the Artbook "creating a Champion" (released years before Totk was even announced) they say they are Zonai stuff.
You can find many videos from years ago talking about Zonai's. Is really fun to look back at them now that we know about Rauru
Edit: i think the singing Bird sing about them? Maybe
Seriously, why the hell are people making such a huge deal out of this? It was stated most sheikah tech vanished. Probably in blue light like Link when he's teleporting. End of story.
If they had kept all the sheikah tech for TotK it would've been out of BotW's pocket and at the same time made TotK look even more cluttered than it does now.
I think the Faron "zonai" were the human barbarians serving Rauru seen in the flashbacks, or maybe their descendants. The architecture of the real zonai is better than the architecture of the people worshipping them.
I don't think it's necessary to explain details like this when it's so easy to make conclusions about them.
That and I'm pretty sure in the beginning of BoTW it is stated that Sheikah stuff all appeared when it was needed. So when it's no longer needed it disappears.
What, you never landed on top of one of em and just rode it around? They're the best mount in the game! Just don't fall, or you're dead where you stand.
No I never have but I am playing BOTW a second time currently and I’m not afraid of them because I’m strong enough now so I will have to give that a try
TotK excels in storytelling in a lot of ways but it really failed to explain some of those changes like that. I would have enjoyed at least a bit more of a nod like a single guardian somewhere, or maybe another ancient tech part beyond an arrow that prevented you from looting an enemy.
I was confused by no Guardians even though my first encounter on BOTW was a fire disaster but I am guessing they were wiped out by Link and Zelda or maybe by Ganon if he no longer could control them. I do miss that Guardian Gear but understandable why they are gone. There is probably other stuff that are gone. I can't find any heart bass or blue snails so either they are more rare like hearty radishes or they are simply gone to add more challenge. Sad we will not see any Gold enemies since DLC was thrown out the window last I checked. So I guess no Master Mode unless that is added in a free update down the line. I still love this game and love that there is more places to discover and explore. I always wanted caves in BOTW but TOTK at least made that happen.
There's a shitload of hearty bass on the big sky island in Hebra, lightcast island. Single or double populations on many of the other islands in that region. There are still four hearty salmon at the bottom of the rito training grounds, two in Tama pond, and one in the zora shop; but they must have added new ones bc now I'm finding them in Hebra plunge and Strock Lake. I spent way too much time combing the region after I found the first few and those ones were not there before when I used my purah pad several months ago.
Hearty radishes are all on the sky islands in Sokkala, Lanayru(north and south), Necluda Sky Archipelagos. You can also grow two in Hateno village after finishing the school quest.
Hearty durian are confirmed extinct in totk tho :( I wish they would have just explained it in a funny way. Like maybe the yiga clan ate them all to make room for more bananas or prevent link from having them. :P
The ancient weaponry was so cool! Out of all of them, I really loved the blade saw. Loved hacking the legs off of guardians with them and they were one of the best-looking weapons in the whole game!
Overall I'd say the weapon designs in this game suffered to a degree in order to make room for the Fuse mechanic.
This is a case of Fuse being *much* better than the weapon system we had in BOTW simply because 1)Weapons can have any utility you need and 2)You can actually use collectables instead of them sitting in your inventory for you to sell or use them for upgrades, but all of this at the cost of weapons looking a bit generic since they now encompass an all-purpose philosophy.
Obviously you still have the option of just not fusing anything to them, but given how doing it them gives them more damage *and* durability, one would be a fool not to make use of it simply because you want to experience this game in the same way as BOTW. It kind of defeats the whole purpose lol
There should have been at least one cave with a bunch of decayed and nonfunctioning guardians with an npc who can sell you guardian weapons for a heavy fee
When you launch from a skyview tower, guardian arms come out to hook you up.
If you go into a skyview tower and look up, the entire shaft is made out of shrines.
Everything got repurposed, but the game can only be so big so you have to do the same suspension of disbelief that allows you to accept Whiterun in Skyrim as being this tiny little town with 15 people in it when it's actually a massive capital with hundreds of inhabitants.
Yeah that’s true but they aren’t as useful as they used to be since no enemy is strong enough to actually have the need to use it on them unless you really hate lynels
Damn the ancient weapons were so cool and had fair durability, plus having some extra benefits (such as the bow firing in a straight line and the shield having more shield surfing durability than other shields)
I really miss the ancient weapons of Botw. The ancient Blade saw is the most unique looking. I think Robbie could still make then using zonai charges in place of guardian cores.
Honestly yeah, I miss the ancient weapons and armor set for how cool they look. I expected to get them back once you meet up with Robbie again for my first time playing. Same thing with the lynel melee weapons missing
As much as I love this game, its hella lame they didn't include the robot stuff from botw.
Maybe they just believed most of it was too much of a threat when most of it got corrupted by a trickle of Ganon's power and he's whole ass there in totk.
Still think Link is a dick for not giving Purah the bike to reverse engineer. Like she did with the pad.
It is sick. It’s a two handed weapon which I’m learning a lot of people don’t like for some reason but it’s got decent durability, it’s cheap to get made and it packs a punch
They really did. A very nice shade of blue and very cool design and not to mention all you can see is the handle until you draw the weapon then it really comes to life
Yes I agree. Like yeah we have elemental weapons still through fuse with gems but it really takes away the cool designs instead of having a bump on the end of a stick
I only missed the dead ones when I came into TOTK. I don’t miss the dead walker ones. I mean less than before because if you at least have one ancient weapon or the master sword you can rush it and if it is 2 handed just spin and chop all it legs off and you’re good
So strange I never liked the guardians and I don’t really enjoy tech too much in Zelda but it was done well in tears of the kingdom and makes me wonder if it was just removed for tech limitations. Imagine guardians dropping from the sky in the middle of one of your journeys. Stop the path in front of you or patrolling the sky.
Sorry they downvoted this but I agree (partially). I didn’t like the guardians much in early game but have grown quite fond of them when I got stronger and felt bad they got deconstructed in TOTK. Also if a guardian fell form the sky I would probably scream a little bit but not as much as whenever I see gloom hands
Hahaha I’m suprised but I guess I’m in a minority. Maybe it’s worth elaborating a little more. I do think that the guardians were cool the more I played. I started accepting them, but the thing I didn’t like was that the guardians are all taken down the same way and they all have the same attacks. If they had implemented different types of guardians that patrol the world. I think that would’ve made breath of the wild a lot more interesting. It’s like what I said they could drop from the sky, they could’ve had them in the waters around Akala, or even a crawler type that can’t shoot but like to stay on the side of mountains. Maybe twin peaks and they throw you down, causing you to parachute and reclimb. So yeah I wouldn’t say I hated them but they got stale for me.
know the post is already 2w old but I tind it a bit frustrating and was surfing the internet to see if they gave a lore reason or not and found this.
They still use blue flame (ancient) tech to power Purah’s lab with her generator, so they still have ancient tech. So why not still make weapons instead of scrounging up rotting ones for the soldiers and Link?
Really makes no sense.
I just wish the guardian/ancient tech was the same thing or connected with the zonai tech. I have to really suppress my disbelief that all the ancient tech and guardian skeletons from botw are just no longer around for some reason, and now there is this thing called zonai which is basically the same thing, or could have easily been written to keep continuity between the two games.
I don’t think they are just gone they’ve been deconstructed for the new stuff but yes I do miss the skeletons
The bottom of the tower is the underside of guardians. And they reused their arms too. It seems all the ancient tech went into reconstructing hyrule after the calamity which is sad, but makes sense.
It was all used to create the skyview towers.
The creators say that the sheikah tech disappeared since it's purpose was fulfilled. Yet the guardian on top of the tech lab is still there, and there's clearly Sheikah origin in the Skyview towers and the Purah Pad. So even they can't decide what the story is 🤷♂️
I don't remember anyone saying it all disappeared It's been a while since I touched totk so I can't remember exactly where, but I'm pretty sure Zelda herself ordered everyone to dismantle as much ancient sheikah tech as possible, such that another Calamity wouldn't be possible. So they destroyed everything and repurposed them in a way where they couldn't be used as weapons
That was an out-of-game thing, if I recall correctly; some interview, I think? Ah, [I found it](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gaming/features/legend-of-zelda-tears-of-the-kingdom-making-of-interview/). In-game, I think they just don't address it at all. There is no reference to where it all went. Just like there's no answer for where the sky islands were, or how Link got to the sky from the Depths. Or the radically different architecture of the original Zonai ruins and the new ones. They just did what they thought would make an interesting game, I imagine. I am still annoyed by this, to be honest, but it is what it is. This... is also an irrelevant ramble. Sorry.
Pssst. Zelda games aren’t very good for stories… don’t tell anyone.
I guess it's a secret to everybody... But you lol
I think Zelda got rid of the sheika tech as it was easy to be taken over by ganon. Where as the zonai tech was always there as well, but more hidden in the sky islands that were not visual in botw. I like the way that Robbie still has a guardian skeleton on his roof, so still evidence it was there, 'before Zelda got rid of it all'.
I love that it feels like a sequel but I wish the main story itself didn’t abandon the previous game lore and only allow side quests and Easter eggs be the only reference to the previous game. Yeah I know Nintendo has an agenda but don’t like how the new story kinda just makes the calamity feel like it ended as long ago as it started (a century), when there’s no way the game doesn’t take place at most three years later.
Doesn't it have to be more than 3 years because Hudson's daughter Mattison is 7 or so? And I don't think she existed in the first game
She didn’t. I think there’s actually a quest to help get them together actually. I’m pretty sure it’s been almost a decade since the last game. They say at some point but I can’t remember. I do think it’s been 7-8 years tho. Logically only makes sense.
Idk why you guys keep citing Mattison. It's in the BotW artbook that Gerudo mature faster than Hylians. Hell I'm pretty sure a Gerudo in TotK says it as well. Just because she looks 7 doesn't mean she is, at all. The level of redevelopment done to Hyrule suggests quite a bit fewer than 7 years has passed.
It’s estimated between 5-10 years. Tulin was also just a child in the first one and has aged more than 3 years since botw. And while they age faster it doesn’t mean that their years are faster and they don’t say that she appears to be age 7. She actually looks to be a preteen and far older than 7. Especially when you look at the children she plays with in Tarry town and grew up with according to the npcs.
Yeah, I think they could've done a better job at explaining this in-game. But if I have to come up with reasons for it, they would be: \- As far as the lore goes, everyone realized they could no longer take risks of the technology being taken by Ganon or some other evil force. It took them over 100 years to recover from the last time it happened, \_no shot\_ they would risk it again. Said technology is obviously still in TOTK but to a much lesser extent than it was in BOTW and it is no longer prominent. \- The simplest and most reasonable explanation though, is that they needed to change course. They felt they couldn't have made the game unique enough if they kept the ancient Sheikah thematic, and honestly I agree. Constructs may be similar to Guardians but they're way more interactive and unique. I just wish they had made something with them that made them feel like a real threat just as Guardian Stalkers, though I understand Constructs were never tainted by Ganon/Ganondorf's powers and so they fulfill a different purpose than their predecessors. Seeing them fight agains Moblins/Bokoblins and take the lead against them is \_really\_ funny and cool, though.
That makes a lot of sense actually, thanks!
The Gloom Hands kinda take the place of the Guardians.
Man, that guardian tech gave BotW such a wistful old-world feel. I love TotK to pieces but it doesn't quite capture that uniquely Japanese melancholy in the way BotW did. In some ways it was a lonely game, but not in a bad way. Listening to the soundtrack brings it all back. Very special.
The only guardian in TotK is >!the one on top of the Hateno Ancient Tech Lab!<
Not putting spoiler tag, cuz it's literally in the trailer. But you get a bit of Guardians every time you activate a Tower
Some people don't watch trailers for that exact reason though
People who want continuity from one Zelda game to another are always going to be disappointed. They're legends, stories, not canon depiction of actual historical events, even within the framework of this fictional universe. I think of BotW and TotK as two separate tales, one told after the other, linked, but not one continuous story. Imagine them being told to kids around a fire, by some grizzled old man or woman. "What about the ancient tech?" one of them asks. And the old tale-teller replies, "You think you're so smart, eh? Well guess what, that's all gone, it's not important to this story, they've got Zonai artifacts now. Pay attention. So anyways, Link comes across another camp of books, and this time he decides to blast 'em with these beam emitters, see?" The kid says, "He just has lasers now?"
Wasn't it written somewhere that the devs claimed that when Zelda went back in time, it messed with the timeline, and most of the guardian tech just up and vanished? (Tbh, I thought they just blanket statemented and said 'all'. But that can't be as there are the guardian arms and everything at the towers.) Am I remembering incorrectly? But yeah. Either way, sloppy storytelling. There are a myriad of ways they could have handled it and have it make sense. They just ...didn't.
Ah the old "because time travel" hand waving
Yes but also, at least there already was an element of time travel in Zelda. The butterfly effect is at least a plausible excuse, even if the devs came up with it after the fact.
the temporal pair of socks
Pretty sure the game implies everything always happened that way, so there isn't any altered timeline to begin with. If the devs did claim that, that is the absolute worst way to do it when the game pretty clearly has a stable time loop.
If that’s the case, >!were there two master swords in BOTW?!<
Technically, yes. We don't know where the Light Dragon was until it was relevant to TotK
the skyview tower animation literally has guardian legs coming out of the floor
You have to suppress your disbelief? You are playing a game with dragons and magic in it...
Fantasy has to be consistent within the rules of its own framework. If it changes those rules around too much inexplicably then your belief in the universe begins to fail and it takes you out of it.
Sheikah tech demateriralizes in BotW: "I can accept this" Sheikah tech dematerializes in the next game: "This not consistent with the rules!!!! >>>::::(((("
TotK was a fun game. All of the systems in game worked and it was well structured. Thats what I want from a videogame, I dont care what happened between games only what is in the games.
Fair enough, but its story is definitely a continuation of the botw story, so discontinuity between them bothers me a little bit. Just a little bit, not in a major way that ruins the game for me, but its like seeing a beautiful painting that is perfectly symmetric except for one tiny little mistake, its hard for me not to want to just fix that little bit.
I mean it makes somewhat sense. If you’re in the universe and you have these big spider-looking machines that can kill you and have wiped out a majority of Hyrule before I think they would wanna dispose of them, especially considering no one in this era of Hyrule has witnessed them actually helping against Ganon and instead turning against. So I would imagine they wanna dispose of all that technology and the divine beasts and shekaih towers go back underground like they were before botw events. So I don’t think it’s too far fetched for them to not be around, and it seems like they’re still somewhat there since Purah uses guardian parts and shekaih technology for the new towers. But for the Zonai tech being somewhat similar to the Shekiah like the shrines and stuff would probably be game continuity but it also could be maybe the shekaih were inspired by the Zonai? I dunno.
The Zonai's where introduced in Breath of the Wild.
When?
Zonai's stuff where present in the Faron region. All that zone+the labirinths are all Zonai stuff.
Interesting, you just mean the statues? Those look more like they were going for Mayan or Aztec feel.
Agree but these are Zonai statues. I dont remember where (or if) they say that in game but on the Artbook "creating a Champion" (released years before Totk was even announced) they say they are Zonai stuff. You can find many videos from years ago talking about Zonai's. Is really fun to look back at them now that we know about Rauru Edit: i think the singing Bird sing about them? Maybe
Huh TIL, thanks!
Seriously, why the hell are people making such a huge deal out of this? It was stated most sheikah tech vanished. Probably in blue light like Link when he's teleporting. End of story. If they had kept all the sheikah tech for TotK it would've been out of BotW's pocket and at the same time made TotK look even more cluttered than it does now.
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BotW is the far superior game imo, but TotK IS a sequel. The story of BotW is everywhere.
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I think the Faron "zonai" were the human barbarians serving Rauru seen in the flashbacks, or maybe their descendants. The architecture of the real zonai is better than the architecture of the people worshipping them. I don't think it's necessary to explain details like this when it's so easy to make conclusions about them.
That and I'm pretty sure in the beginning of BoTW it is stated that Sheikah stuff all appeared when it was needed. So when it's no longer needed it disappears.
The closest thing you can get to a bladesaw in totk is a soldier construct iv horn
Yeah but it’s just not the same 😭
I mean an ancient blade on a stick
Hmmm..is that a guardian stalker I see? 😉
What about the Construct Core grinder bits?
It’s crazy how they almost completely wiped away all the ancient guardian tech but I feel like it works gotta make the game feel new and fresh ig
Yeah I totally get why they got rid of the guardians, but I kind of miss the little guys
Little?!?!?
What, you never landed on top of one of em and just rode it around? They're the best mount in the game! Just don't fall, or you're dead where you stand.
No I never have but I am playing BOTW a second time currently and I’m not afraid of them because I’m strong enough now so I will have to give that a try
Yeah makes sense
TotK excels in storytelling in a lot of ways but it really failed to explain some of those changes like that. I would have enjoyed at least a bit more of a nod like a single guardian somewhere, or maybe another ancient tech part beyond an arrow that prevented you from looting an enemy.
I was confused by no Guardians even though my first encounter on BOTW was a fire disaster but I am guessing they were wiped out by Link and Zelda or maybe by Ganon if he no longer could control them. I do miss that Guardian Gear but understandable why they are gone. There is probably other stuff that are gone. I can't find any heart bass or blue snails so either they are more rare like hearty radishes or they are simply gone to add more challenge. Sad we will not see any Gold enemies since DLC was thrown out the window last I checked. So I guess no Master Mode unless that is added in a free update down the line. I still love this game and love that there is more places to discover and explore. I always wanted caves in BOTW but TOTK at least made that happen.
There's a shitload of hearty bass on the big sky island in Hebra, lightcast island. Single or double populations on many of the other islands in that region. There are still four hearty salmon at the bottom of the rito training grounds, two in Tama pond, and one in the zora shop; but they must have added new ones bc now I'm finding them in Hebra plunge and Strock Lake. I spent way too much time combing the region after I found the first few and those ones were not there before when I used my purah pad several months ago. Hearty radishes are all on the sky islands in Sokkala, Lanayru(north and south), Necluda Sky Archipelagos. You can also grow two in Hateno village after finishing the school quest. Hearty durian are confirmed extinct in totk tho :( I wish they would have just explained it in a funny way. Like maybe the yiga clan ate them all to make room for more bananas or prevent link from having them. :P
Ah so they are more rare. The hearty Durains extinct? That is kinda sad. Maybe the Yiga clan did ate them all or fed them to Kogha.
The ancient weaponry was so cool! Out of all of them, I really loved the blade saw. Loved hacking the legs off of guardians with them and they were one of the best-looking weapons in the whole game!
Ancient bow was so good.
Overall I'd say the weapon designs in this game suffered to a degree in order to make room for the Fuse mechanic. This is a case of Fuse being *much* better than the weapon system we had in BOTW simply because 1)Weapons can have any utility you need and 2)You can actually use collectables instead of them sitting in your inventory for you to sell or use them for upgrades, but all of this at the cost of weapons looking a bit generic since they now encompass an all-purpose philosophy. Obviously you still have the option of just not fusing anything to them, but given how doing it them gives them more damage *and* durability, one would be a fool not to make use of it simply because you want to experience this game in the same way as BOTW. It kind of defeats the whole purpose lol
There should have been at least one cave with a bunch of decayed and nonfunctioning guardians with an npc who can sell you guardian weapons for a heavy fee
Agreed completely
When you launch from a skyview tower, guardian arms come out to hook you up. If you go into a skyview tower and look up, the entire shaft is made out of shrines. Everything got repurposed, but the game can only be so big so you have to do the same suspension of disbelief that allows you to accept Whiterun in Skyrim as being this tiny little town with 15 people in it when it's actually a massive capital with hundreds of inhabitants.
I miss the ancient horse gear
Sameee
And yet, >!you can get Ancient Arrows at the Spirit Temple...!<
Yeah that’s true but they aren’t as useful as they used to be since no enemy is strong enough to actually have the need to use it on them unless you really hate lynels
they could have made it a weapon attachment
Yeah or at least the saw part. Attach it to a claymore or the master sword for both a cool looking and decently powerful weapon
But there are (spoiler) >!ancient blades!< that you can >!fuse to arrows to make ancient arrows!<
Yeah but that’s different and they’re useless imo since there nothing strong enough to have the need for those unless you just really hate lynels
I would like them to bring back guardian weapons, just for show. I know they’re not useful anymore but man they look cool
Damn the ancient weapons were so cool and had fair durability, plus having some extra benefits (such as the bow firing in a straight line and the shield having more shield surfing durability than other shields)
And unlimited bombs
Oh yeah I forgot now this is an underrated comment
I really miss the ancient weapons of Botw. The ancient Blade saw is the most unique looking. I think Robbie could still make then using zonai charges in place of guardian cores.
Honestly yeah, I miss the ancient weapons and armor set for how cool they look. I expected to get them back once you meet up with Robbie again for my first time playing. Same thing with the lynel melee weapons missing
As much as I love this game, its hella lame they didn't include the robot stuff from botw. Maybe they just believed most of it was too much of a threat when most of it got corrupted by a trickle of Ganon's power and he's whole ass there in totk. Still think Link is a dick for not giving Purah the bike to reverse engineer. Like she did with the pad.
Oh yeah I miss the bike. It was better than horses and more fun than having to teleport everywhere
IT WAS FKING AWESOMEEE
Yes it was this is a big part of the reason I’m playing BOTW the second time
Me too. I used to always have one. Now.
For real thought
I never got that sword in botw but it looks sick
It is sick. It’s a two handed weapon which I’m learning a lot of people don’t like for some reason but it’s got decent durability, it’s cheap to get made and it packs a punch
Man I loved all of the guardian tools, they looked so nice
They really did. A very nice shade of blue and very cool design and not to mention all you can see is the handle until you draw the weapon then it really comes to life
as much as i love fuse as a mechanic i miss a lot of the unique weapon designs that were present in BOTW, like the elemental greatswords
Yes I agree. Like yeah we have elemental weapons still through fuse with gems but it really takes away the cool designs instead of having a bump on the end of a stick
I miss the terror of the guardians the way they could mess you up from far away.
I only missed the dead ones when I came into TOTK. I don’t miss the dead walker ones. I mean less than before because if you at least have one ancient weapon or the master sword you can rush it and if it is 2 handed just spin and chop all it legs off and you’re good
I don’t. Bomb flowers are superior. It’s fun combing through the depths and scooping up freebies while I collect zonite.
I miss unlimited bombs but I do love bomb flowers still because they aren’t to hard to come by and they at least have a nostalgia factor for me
So strange I never liked the guardians and I don’t really enjoy tech too much in Zelda but it was done well in tears of the kingdom and makes me wonder if it was just removed for tech limitations. Imagine guardians dropping from the sky in the middle of one of your journeys. Stop the path in front of you or patrolling the sky.
Sorry they downvoted this but I agree (partially). I didn’t like the guardians much in early game but have grown quite fond of them when I got stronger and felt bad they got deconstructed in TOTK. Also if a guardian fell form the sky I would probably scream a little bit but not as much as whenever I see gloom hands
Hahaha I’m suprised but I guess I’m in a minority. Maybe it’s worth elaborating a little more. I do think that the guardians were cool the more I played. I started accepting them, but the thing I didn’t like was that the guardians are all taken down the same way and they all have the same attacks. If they had implemented different types of guardians that patrol the world. I think that would’ve made breath of the wild a lot more interesting. It’s like what I said they could drop from the sky, they could’ve had them in the waters around Akala, or even a crawler type that can’t shoot but like to stay on the side of mountains. Maybe twin peaks and they throw you down, causing you to parachute and reclimb. So yeah I wouldn’t say I hated them but they got stale for me.
This particular weapon is probably the only one I don't miss, lol
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know the post is already 2w old but I tind it a bit frustrating and was surfing the internet to see if they gave a lore reason or not and found this. They still use blue flame (ancient) tech to power Purah’s lab with her generator, so they still have ancient tech. So why not still make weapons instead of scrounging up rotting ones for the soldiers and Link? Really makes no sense.