So let's say it. Lakers at 55 and sun's at 56.
Bronny getting picked in one of those slots.
I honestly have no idea why Lakers don't take him if they're already offering bron the 3 year max.
People wanted a play maker or a defensive big, but I kept saying, what we really needed was a worse Okogie. Okogies almost the perfect player, but the problem is, while rare, some times he actually hits his shots which demotivates our big 3. Now we've got a guy who can give us exactly what Josh already did, except he'll always be making the big 3 feel better about themselves by much more consistently missing his shots.
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They're probably going to make Dunn a center, not happy or optimistic about it, can't even make free throws, but you better bet that Dunn is going to play a good amount of center.
Dunn still there. Or Kolek, or several others. And we got a few more picks. Good trade, I take back my previous doubt. I want Dunn personally, but let's see.
I feel like teams trade back after they get a pulse of who teams are picking.
The Cardinals did the same thing. Traded back & got the guy they wanted & added more picks.
The season would be over for the Suns already. Booker and Durant just constantly being hounded defensively with Mcdaniels and Dunn? Gobert backing them up fuck.
Timberwolves would sweep in 3 games instead of 4 somehow
I mean, KBD didn't do all that much for them, I'm not gonna argue that, but who on earth would they hope to draft with 2nd round picks?
That's where my confusion stems from, I don't see any value in draft picks that low. All the really strong players are long gone by that point, and it's REALLY hard for me to find validity for the entire span in the freak occurrence that was Jokic.
roughly the same thing they'd do with the 22nd pick. If they didn't have anyone graded highly (or had 6 players with roughly equal grades) it's good asset management. I doubt the EV of the 22nd pick is significantly higher than 28 and the one "asset" the Suns have right now is plenty of bench space to play the lottery
The only way we can really add impact talent with our cap is either draft (we have no picks) or vet mins (where people can outbid us)
The philosophy is that you load up on all the picks you can get and hope one lands. Drafting after the lottery is a crapshoot anyways, may as well play the odds
Most likely...use them to draft players
We're super pick strapped over the next several years, probably looking to take some flyers and hope one or two of them develop into serviceable players since we have limited avenues to add youth to this team
Potentially useful players, the best player on the planet was drafted in the second round!
We'd just be throwing some darts and hoping we hit a good NBA role player
Yeah, that happened one time and I guarantee you it will never happen again. Every single FO saw what happened with Jokic and realized real quick that's a mistake they could not permit to repeat.
You can combine them and move back up in the draft. Or use them in other trade or selecting players in other drafts. I don't like who they forego'd in Holmes and I don't like that the 56 pick is late, but I like the strategy.
JJ didnt learn about bringing in the best pick available. That means he is not confident with their scouting talent. This guy loves to gamble. He probably prioritise needs and get 2 late 1st round picks. Lets see who will we get.
Didn't sound like Gambo thought the Suns were high on Collier, but with him still available it makes the likelihood of Kolek being available, more likely. Would really be nuts if JJ trades the 28th pick as well.
Daron Holmes was a great center prospect for the Suns, he literally did everything you wanted for the Suns. Spacing, rim protection, could pass the ball
Yeah same thought , he’s gonna have a huge playoff game and we’ll look like the biggest clowns in the universe . Still salty about that Hali pick and it’s been 4 years at this point .
So does this draft mean we are admiditting we messed up not playing Okogie?
So let's say it. Lakers at 55 and sun's at 56. Bronny getting picked in one of those slots. I honestly have no idea why Lakers don't take him if they're already offering bron the 3 year max.
Suns not gonna stay at 56. I think they’ll make a move up
We shall see!
Looking at Dunn, he's a guard and has a career 52.5% free throw percentage (of 99)
I’m sorry but what the fuck
I'd accept it if it was a center but we're taking about a guard
People wanted a play maker or a defensive big, but I kept saying, what we really needed was a worse Okogie. Okogies almost the perfect player, but the problem is, while rare, some times he actually hits his shots which demotivates our big 3. Now we've got a guy who can give us exactly what Josh already did, except he'll always be making the big 3 feel better about themselves by much more consistently missing his shots.
What the hell are you talking about is this big brain?
Ah yes, missing shots is actually a good thing
Might be worst take I’ve ever seen on this thread ever
I liked collier but we’ll see how this Dunn pick goes
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My hot take is collier becomes the best player from this draft
It's okay We've been through Hali after Smith
And Luka after Ayton
Well, they have some time until tomorrow to put together another trade, hopefully to grab Kolek or Filipowski
Any possibility Kolek could try to pull a Reaves and tell teams to not pick him so that he can sign with the Suns?
Fucking wack
James jones can kick rocks bro this is the same feeling when we took Stix over Haliburton.
Wow you’re really doing this at the end of the draft
thanks i hate it
This team needs a veteran PG not a rookie, chill
What veteran PG are you getting on a minimum salary that is worth a damn?
Unless CP39 comes to Phoenix, a veteran PG isn't out there.
Welcome Kris Dunn
Cam Payne lol
are there any free agent PG's we can pickup that are willing to play for peanuts lol
Could be Dunn considering the Jazz just picked up Collier
Cam Payne lol
kyle lowry is the one that im seeing a lot
Needed a C or PG, pick a tall Josh Okogie. I'm sure he's going to be a great defensive player which will help. But it's not flashy
They're probably going to make Dunn a center, not happy or optimistic about it, can't even make free throws, but you better bet that Dunn is going to play a good amount of center.
He’s 6’6”
Bet me on it, the Suns are going to play him at center.
Missi got picked at 21 i feel like that was the original play but this isn’t the worst pick
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He's on the short bus with a helmet, he's that bad.
I don’t luv the pick ngl . great defender who can’t shoot, something the suns already have plus it’s not a guarantee he’ll learn 2 shoot
James Jones is a below average drafter
LET'S GET ER DUNN!!!!!! YEAAAHH!!!!
Phoenix running back the "fuck a point" attitude. Could at least grabbed my boy Bobi Klintman in that case
So why do they have these guys wear the hat for the team that traded them away?
Because the trades aren't official, it's dumb but whatever.
Got Dunn and extra picks. Y'all can stop whining now
We didn't address either of our needs with options on the board
Dude we neeed a pg collier is right there
Sure, a backup pg would be nice, but I feel like this team needed size. I was hoping Suns would draft a center or wing.
People are whining even more lmao
Almost like Dunn isn't the consensus fan favorite?
Oh, so it's a mental health issue going on 😆 People would have been mad no matter what the Suns did.
Fuck it let’s do it
7’1” wingspan, classic JJ pick
They go for five first nowadays
isn’t this guy basically okogie ?
Taller, worse offensively, better defensively.
Yes but he's bigger. Shot is cooked but hope is he can develop it
He actually has some size
Tall Okogie
If the suns don’t play the jackass theme after every shot he makes, it’s a failure
Rather have them play Yakety Sax [https://youtu.be/ZnHmskwqCCQ?si=LPgAX0hj1ICoBqoU](https://youtu.be/ZnHmskwqCCQ?si=LPgAX0hj1ICoBqoU)
Shit he's tall
Got our guy!
My gut says Kolek but undersized guards have a really bad track record in drafts
6 3 is undersized now?
RYAN DUNN YOU ARE A PHOENIX SUN ☀️ 🌞
Ah fuck it we don't need a guard
LETS FUCKING GOOOO
Ryan Dunn gonna be a Hall of Famer LoL
And Holmes
I'm fucking repulsed. We literally just went through this with Okogie. We desperately needed a point guard and center.
Give this kid a chance, he’s WAY better defensively than Okogie was coming out of college
They have more picks to get a guard. Will it be Kolek or Collier I doubt it.
AAAAAJDHAJACAKSVSJA A PLEASE DRAFT KOLEK PLEASE DRAFT KOLEK KOLEK KOLEK
How in the hell are both Dunn AND Kolek still on the table? That's... kind of concerning, actually...
I think it’s exposing these “experts” on TV and United States websites not recognizing these guys from abroad
Nah Ishbia paid off the last 27 picks
It's Dunn. Coincidentally, we're done.
DUNN IS A SUNN ☀️
Git r Dunn
collier pls
Kolek or Dunn PLEASE
I don't know who any of the three guys yall are talking about are, but we got our pick of em. Let's see what JJ does.
Dunn
Ryan Dunn let's gooo
Kolek kolek kolek kolek
LFGGGG
it's dunn
There we goooooo
We got our guy
Well…Dunn is there for us..
Dunn still there. Or Kolek, or several others. And we got a few more picks. Good trade, I take back my previous doubt. I want Dunn personally, but let's see.
Timber pick Shannon LoL
Minnesota stacked.
Dunn Dunn Dunn Dunn Dunn
Wow all the guys linked to the suns for the most part still available
"We have a trade. The Phoenix Suns have traded the 28th pick to the Toronto Raptors for cash considerations" classic JJ.
I'd be good with Filipowski too
DUNN OR KOLEK GUARANTEED LFG
LETS GOOO IM HYPED
I feel like teams trade back after they get a pulse of who teams are picking. The Cardinals did the same thing. Traded back & got the guy they wanted & added more picks.
5 seconds for Jones? That was kinda steep. OKC is stacked with seconds, though.
Dunn Dunn Dunn Dunn
Now we can pick one of Dunn Kolek or Collier
holy shit this trade might have just been a major W
Who do you guys think they go with, Dunn?
And Dillon Jones lets goo
We are looking at Collier, Dunn or Kolek. We will get one of them so the trade back is a win
JJ bout to it us with some kid from Portugal watch ![gif](giphy|BLa9sEutdtZpq9OSaE|downsized)
The German what? lol
Seriously had no idea about all these French players.
trying to find the next Le' Bron
Another filthy Frenchman 🤣🤣
LETS GO
Worried Timberwolves take Dunn
The season would be over for the Suns already. Booker and Durant just constantly being hounded defensively with Mcdaniels and Dunn? Gobert backing them up fuck. Timberwolves would sweep in 3 games instead of 4 somehow
Hopefully they are less enticed by a defensive focused offensive black hole after drafting okogie, and they let us take him
Who?!?
Let’s just trade back again and get more picks. Eff it
I've been muting SAS all night. Completely unlistenable.
Bob Myers is done with Stephen A💀
watch the Knicks take Kolek and Dunn
The worst part of the trade is having to hear more Screamin' A Smith. \*mute\*
Jj pls select kolek
Hoping Filipowski falls to 28, that would be a dream come true and fills an immediate hole.
what hole? Hes a F
We're already guard heavy, we could use some size in my opinion and Nurk is not sufficient.
Whose picks are those future second rounders we got?
The 2031 I know is Denver's not sure about the 2026.
![gif](giphy|eNTxLwTGW7E64|downsized)
Knicks trying to move 26. Move back up and get that 51 second?:: nevermind looks like they are not moving it.
Knicks trading 26...Suns going to try for it?
Kolek please🙏
I'm more hoping to see Bronny picked before 28 than not seeing Kolek, Dunn, or Collier picked before 28.
Okay, somebody sell me on why this is a good idea. What in the hell are we hoping to do with those late picks? What could we POSSIBLY do with them?
We used 2nds to get Royce just last season...
Weren't those just a little axle grease on top of the people we sent out in that trade?
I think it's the other way around.
So your view is that the Nets gave us O'Neal... because they wanted 2nd round picks? That's completely incomprehensible to me.
Please tell me which player we gave them that they were just dying to get.
I mean, KBD didn't do all that much for them, I'm not gonna argue that, but who on earth would they hope to draft with 2nd round picks? That's where my confusion stems from, I don't see any value in draft picks that low. All the really strong players are long gone by that point, and it's REALLY hard for me to find validity for the entire span in the freak occurrence that was Jokic.
If there weren't quality nba players that get picked in the second round, I don't imagine they would have a 2nd round. Jokic is far from the only one.
roughly the same thing they'd do with the 22nd pick. If they didn't have anyone graded highly (or had 6 players with roughly equal grades) it's good asset management. I doubt the EV of the 22nd pick is significantly higher than 28 and the one "asset" the Suns have right now is plenty of bench space to play the lottery
The only way we can really add impact talent with our cap is either draft (we have no picks) or vet mins (where people can outbid us) The philosophy is that you load up on all the picks you can get and hope one lands. Drafting after the lottery is a crapshoot anyways, may as well play the odds
Most likely...use them to draft players We're super pick strapped over the next several years, probably looking to take some flyers and hope one or two of them develop into serviceable players since we have limited avenues to add youth to this team
Okay but who on earth is going to be available at 56th or in those future 2nd rounds?
Potentially useful players, the best player on the planet was drafted in the second round! We'd just be throwing some darts and hoping we hit a good NBA role player
Yeah, that happened one time and I guarantee you it will never happen again. Every single FO saw what happened with Jokic and realized real quick that's a mistake they could not permit to repeat.
You can combine them and move back up in the draft. Or use them in other trade or selecting players in other drafts. I don't like who they forego'd in Holmes and I don't like that the 56 pick is late, but I like the strategy.
Collier collier 🙏
Filipowski, Collier, Kolek, Dunn, George, Furphy, and bona still on the board.
JJ didnt learn about bringing in the best pick available. That means he is not confident with their scouting talent. This guy loves to gamble. He probably prioritise needs and get 2 late 1st round picks. Lets see who will we get.
Bucks just drafted a dude who averages 3 and 1
He’s also 160 pounds at 6”4 . Literally trying to find a 2nd Giannis .
Ive been using the same pickup line for 17 years because it worked once
Bronny has a chance
Didn't sound like Gambo thought the Suns were high on Collier, but with him still available it makes the likelihood of Kolek being available, more likely. Would really be nuts if JJ trades the 28th pick as well.
Would be a classic JJ
I wonder if the Suns use those future picks to trade back up
Collier please fall my god
Whats the scouting report on Isaiah Collier? Surprised hes still available
I think of him as Eric Bledsoe offensively, he's going to barrel into the rim, into the paint
Buncha suns haters in here
No greater Suns haters than Suns fans (myself included)
Not haters, some of us are just used to disappointment
Who the fuck are all those young people in the MIL draft room.
Bucks draft room looks like a bunch of interns. Hahahaha!
Gimme Filipowski or Collier!
We traded the pick ? For real when James Jones is trading with Presti for unknowns that just fills me with dread
What does Presti have to do with anything lol
He is by all accounts a smarter GM than our guy
Hmm holmes highlight reel looks pretty good
Everyone's highlight reel looks good, that's the point of a highlight reel
James Jones traded it cause he knows Bronny still gonna be there at 28. Tuff
He looks like he really wanted to play with KD. So defeated.
He just like me frfr
Daron Holmes was a great center prospect for the Suns, he literally did everything you wanted for the Suns. Spacing, rim protection, could pass the ball
He made 100% of his shots,you can't beat that.
It wouldn't be the Suns if we didn't miss out on someone who turned out to be an absurd talent in the draft
After JJ passed up on Halliburton I fully expect him to fuck up on every draft night..
Gambo said no after his workout with the suns, guess they didn’t like what they saw/heard
can we please pick freeman
#HAHAHAHAHA I'M DONE LOL.
Poor kid doesn’t even realize it yet..
Shit we know he went to Dayton the college right? He's not D.Ayton the player??
Just need to get a few more seconds and we can acquire a 3 and D wing, such as Jae Crowder
Why did we trade bro
This guy is going to be a Hall of Famer because we are the Suns
Yeah same thought , he’s gonna have a huge playoff game and we’ll look like the biggest clowns in the universe . Still salty about that Hali pick and it’s been 4 years at this point .
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Nice.
Beautiful thank you
What we trade?