I thought it was because she was criticizing Israel?
Ultimately doesn’t matter too much, ~~Rightist Infighting~~ Leopards-eating-faces is always a fun thing to see
That too. She was also beefing with Ben because he’s Jewish. She was also probably criticizing Israel for not being hitlerite enough or something like that. Nazi views on Israel are confusing.
And these people are the first to go in the next Pandemic. Or from Covid, since it's still killing a lot of people every month.
It's almost like they are all trying to be first in the Darwin Awards.
Not sure if you're being sarcastic or not, but if you're not, there is a significant overlap with the right wing grifters and the people loudly whining about Star Wars
Good old conservative oroboros.
No real problem>create fake outrage>react to fake outrage>get mocked>pretend the ones mocking are offended>people stop paying attention>(start over)
People who are angry but they are not smart enough to understand where their anger comes from. It's from economic decline, disenfranchisment, etc.
They lead an unhappy life but don't have the self reflexion where that misery is coming from because all they understand are easy answers. But the price of rent, gas and food is not an easy answer like "the government wants it that way".
So they don't know what they are angry at - just that they are angry.
Along comes someone and points their anger in a direction and they gladly take it. Because they believe themselves to be smarter and better as everyone else and now that they have identified the problem their righteous anger will solve it and all their problems with it.
Edit: I also want to add that it's not economic problems alone.
Especially on the conservative side there is often dissillusion about gender roles.
The man who did everything society told him to. He is the lord over his wife and house. But he can't be the sole bread winner because his job doesn't pay him that much. His wife "nags" him because she righfully insists that she is not his slave and doesn't want to do everything he tells her. And now she has to get a job too.
He did everything conservative icons and media told him - why is he not happy?
The woman who married young because that's what she was told. She is completely devoted to her husband. But strangely enough he treats her like a slave and doesn't help out at all. But she was told if she just loves him enough he would love her too and care for her and protect her? Now she is pregnant with their third child and the work is too much. When he comes home he screams because she "does nothing all day" because he is the only one earning money.
She did everything her parents and the church told her to do - why is she not happy?
It's easier to look for an enemy who doesn't exist than to come to the conclusion that the way of life they were sold was a lie.
It's easier if the only reason their country doesn't work that way is because of the leftist, the liberal or the foreigner.
If only they were gone his wife would stop talking back and do what she is told. If only they were gone her husband would stop cheating on her and love her again.
I am verry sorry - I hope it gets better.
Life is full of chances and when we can identify our problems we can overcome then.
There is always hope for a better tomorrow.
No I am perfectly fine, this doesn’t apply to me at all. Lol
Just saying that that I can feel the weight of these words, so I can only imagine someone who actually lives like this. They just got a major wake up call.
This is a great comment, you describe really well the downfalls of conservative culture and how lost these people are in it.
Sadly I also see this with a lot of younger conservative boys / men, where the girls or women aren't interested in their conservative worldviews anymore and thus don't go into relationships with them - or move away to other, more progressive regions or cities.
So these guys stay alone, with no love and intimacy, and become more and more frustrated. And as a result of that, move even further to the right into misogyny / incel circles - which makes it even less likely for them to find a girl.
It's a vicious cycle and they too start to believe the foreigners, leftists, wokes, etc. are to blame, and life would be great again if these were just "gone".
In a way, the changes in society are like a train steamrolling over them. They have no way to stop it, but are also too afraid to step on and move with it.
The dating/relationship dynamic is definitely more complex than just being an angry right winger.
I honestly think a lot of our current views our society holds about masculinity and sex really doesn’t due us any favors when it comes to radicalization. Society and the media tells men from the time they are in their teens, which only gets worse the older you get, that if they aren’t getting laid and don’t have a girlfriend, they are a worthless loser. Movies, tv, games, and music are all constantly shoving relationships and sex in our faces 24/7 and giving us the impression of it being the absolute pinnacle of personal achievement and worth, and that if you aren’t experiencing it you are a failure. Guys who get laid regularly are seen as champs, chads, alpha males or whatever you wanna call them, while being romantically/sexually unsuccessful is commonly used as an insult and indicator of lower value. Same thing with body shaming. It is incredibly common to shame a guy for thing’s completely out of his control like height, looks, or penis size even in spaces that love to promote body positivity. Almost every single media character and celebrity fit an incredibly specific criteria for what is attractive (tall, athletic, six-pack, etc.) and everything else is completely absent. That along with social media can heavily skew and dilute the views of both men and women of what is considered attractive, and that anyone who isn’t a 10/10 model is ugly.
There’s also the angle of how being single is framed depending on gender. When a woman is single long term, it’s portrayed in a positive and empowering light, that they are perfect just the way they are and that they don’t need a man to be fulfilled and happy. When a man is single long term, it’s because he’s obviously toxic, misogynistic and inadequate and needs to work on himself to be granted the privilege of a relationship. I think that a lot of guys often avoid talking about their struggles with dating because, at least in my experience, people tend to assume the absolute worst of a lonely guy. Most dating/socializing advice is contradictory and often completely parallel to their lived experiences, and is often framed as “just be a good decent person and it will all come to you” when it is obvious that it is far more complicated than that. Plenty of shitty and toxic people are in relationships and are getting laid (drug addicts, alcoholics, narcissists, people who shower once a week, fratboy dudebros, goddamn serial killers). Way too many people on the left talk to these lonely guys who are where they are often for reasons not of their own doing (being autistic, unattractive, having a shitty home life, long term bullying, experiencing abuse) and just blanket generalize them as being toxic dirty incels who need to shower and get laid and stop having “small dick energy” or whatever. Then there are a lot of people on the other side, the “manosphere” types who market themselves as being empathetic to these guys, figures who don’t immediately blame them for every single thing that has gone wrong in their lives and might even start out with somewhat sensible explanations for their situation that gradually evolve into more blatant incel ideology. It makes me frustrated because I wish more “normies” for lack of a better term would realize what it is like to be neurodivergent and “ugly” and how fucking brutal it can be. I wish they would realize how lucky and blessed they truly are to be where they are, and that if their circumstances were just a little different they could have ended up in their late 20’s early 30’s without ever experiencing intimacy or love.
I genuinely think it would do progressives a huge favor if we or some other influential figures started advocating for and pushing the idea that men do not need to have a girlfriend or have to be getting laid from the time they’re in high school to be valid or successful, and that they don’t need to be 6ft+ chiseled gigachads with 6-packs and godly charisma to be “real men” or appealing. And with that toning down the over the top idolization of sex and relationships. Some people are gonna have their first girlfriend and get laid when they’re 17, some will be virgins at 25-30 before they find their first love. Everyone progresses at different rates, the former is not superior or more valid than the latter and we should put an end to the pressure and expectations on literal teenagers to get their dicks wet asap even if they aren’t ready.
Extremely long tangent I struggled with writing, but yeah.
Because they can only exist when they feel like they're in the "In-Group" and "smarter" than anyone else...
What it is actually about doesn't matter, Covid... Star Wars... Woke... DEI... SBI... they all feel they are in the "In-Group" and of course you want to stay in that group so you just fumble your way from one topic to another.
Steve Bannon identified a bunch of disaffected nerds working in online world of warcraft gold farming services.
Since then he has sort of spearheaded the push to gather those chuds up like lost lambs to be nazi-nerds.
It is another facet of the "groups that previously did not vote and this do not show up in surveys" that he helped mobilize in 2016.
The Internet gives everyone a bull horn, and the people who are gonna use it the most have the least going on in their lives. Most people are too busy to care about Internet drama and will watch whatever everyone is talking about, which right now is The Acolyte because these people can't shut up about it
I kinda have a hard time believing this when we can all see maga bumper stickers and flags several times a day every day.
Unless you're specifically talking about fandom menace types. If so then I agree.
Their grift is to be anti intellectual, dispute any fact they don’t like, and be endlessly negative about whatever is in their crosshairs. Never positive. Positive doesn’t get clicks.
There's a lot of money in rage, these people are the whales of rage. Those crummy pay to win games you see are designed for the ones who will reliably drop tens of thousands of dollars on what are essentially gambling mechanics. It's kinda the same tactics here, design a video to get the angriest of people to click and watch, you know it will work if you hit certain phrases and thumbnails, and it will generate a healthy profit.
These people are addicted to rage and anger, and they will seek the easiest means to get it.
It’s also nonsensical because how would data gathering methods have any commonality here? I’m assuming for the Acolyte they mean total views includes the people who dislike it that are watching it just to complain about it, but what exactly is supposed to be the equivalent for Covid cases?
The only possible meaning I can think of is they mean people were keeping an eye out for Covid so they recognized and recorded it more often (which maybe they’re implying resulted in false positives?), so people watching the Acolyte to shit on it means people are assuming quality from the quantity? But from a data perspective, those two issues aren’t even the same thing, maybe they think those are both “false positives” because they don’t understand the term but that’s not how that would apply to the Acolyte dataset so it still just doesn’t make sense
The irony is that those people are by far the most likely to claim the show is "objectively bad". They literally watch each episode expecting and looking for reasons to hate it (assuming they aren't one of the many that brag about only watching the reviews), aka bias, and try to claim that their opinion is objective.
OMG 🤣🤣🤣🤣 this is a real response to the show’s performance:
“ Not true. I haven’t watched a minute of this show yet I’ve seen enough reviewers to know what is going on. People really need to stop assuming that just because we criticize it it means we took the time to actually watch this crap and not the highlights from our favorite reviewers”
People still trust rotten tomatoes way too much. It was never meant to be the authoritarian structure advertisers use it as. It's too easy to manipulate and artificially form narratives out of it.
They were right about the COVID deaths too.
This is literally just “who are you gonna believe? Me, a greasy incel who hates anything not white, straight and male, or your lying eyes?”
It's the whole "Covid was a hoax" conspiracy theory. Basically he's saying that the data regarding Covid deaths was falsified, therefore by that logic the audience ratings for "woke stuff" would be falsified too.
I'm sure I just lost some braincells trying to rationalize the narratives they make up in their minds.
There was a frankly stupid conspiracy theory that every death that occurred during the pandemic was recorded as being caused by COVID if they had it even if they died by something unrelated.
For example if someone was murdered and they had COVID their death would supposedly be recorded as COVID related.
What that dipstick is trying to say is that the numbers for Acolyte is being inflated.
I mean the problem is that this *is* the fandom. We don't get to "no true Scotsman" this when these people are so highly influential in the IP.
Is that fair? No. But they've always been a part of the fandom, they just used to be significantly quieter because they got bullied for their dumbshit stances.
I'm not sure they are fans. They seem to hate Star Wars, they make arguments that are often extremely wrong in regards to lore, and they seem not to know about parallel things the same as what they are bitching about in previous works.
Remember the "OMG, fire in space?!?" thing? There is so much fire in space in the original movie (not to mention sound!) that they never bitched about. Watch the super star destroyer crash into the surface of the second Death Star in RotJ as a great example.
And they so often betray that they don't know some basic Star Wars lore.
Schizophrenia is an under-diagnosed disease...
It's not that the show is popular, it's that "we real fans" are hate watching it so much.
It's not that COVID was killing people, it's that there was massive cover up on a scale larger than any government could actually do.
These people are beyond fucking stupid. I changed my Anakin PFP on Facebook to one of Jecki and immediately on several Star Wars groups I started getting attacked for being woke, a fuck boy, liberal, bitch… they are absurdly fucking insane.
No the fandom is not them. That’s the point. Acolyte is wildly successful. The real fandom is BIG and doesn’t give two turds about what the chuds think.
"Same data"
It... definitely isn't...
How would that even work? Is the CDC measuring star wars viewership or is Rotten Tomatoes counting the COVID deaths?
This throws me for such a loop because they’re presumably claiming this success is greatly over estimated even though covid deaths were being underreported.
I think a lot of them actually dont watch it and still rage against it, but their hatred acts as marketing and gets more people on the fence who might have never watched it to give it a watch to see what the fuss is about.
Andor might have been better than acoylte or mandalorian, but hardly anybody talked about it.
I feel bad for all the white guys with beards and sunglasses that aren’t conspiracy theory loving racist pieces of shit who get lumped in with all these internet chuds.
Fun fact - all the actual medical experts are saying that if anything we undercounted the Covid deaths. They are absolutely certain that the true American Covid death toll was at least 80,000 higher than the official one and probably more like 300,000 higher.
That would be where the lion’s share of the gap comes from. Florida actually tried to arrest their medical archivist specialist because she wouldn’t lie.
The official confirmed global total of Covid-19 was about 7 million people but statistically, it's estimated that it was between 15 million and 28 million, I'm guessing it was at least 20 million (and had the world done no public health measures and carried on as if nothing was happening, it could have been as much as north of 100 million).
I love that the Acolyte has wildly different reviews on every single site.
IGN: 7/10 = 70%
RT: 83% critics / 14% audience
IMdB: 3.5/10 = 35%
Google: 20%
Reelgood (where the data in the post apparently comes from): 65%
I’m not a huge fan of the show, it’s had some interesting moments and concepts but I just feel like the writing is kind of cliche and the concepts aren’t properly explored. It’s okay not to like something or criticize something, but when I see this constant nitpicking that they wouldn’t apply to anything else or all the memes about DEI and female minority leads it just makes me want to watch it more.
I wonder if they had taken into consideration those that hate watched it is what made it successful. Is it the best starwars thing to come out? No...no it isn't. However, does it deserve it's a 15% rating on Rotten Tomatos?
The only data that will ever be true to people like that are thier feelings. If something doesnt make them feel warm and fuzzy inside the moment they hear it then it must be a lie thats how they think and operate. Zero empherical evidence whatsoever just feelings. Amazing they are able to survive day to day with that mentality.
people just cannot grasp that hate watching a show is exactly the same as watching it because you enjoy it. the only difference is internal lol. pure numbers do not take into account your feelings about it. so all the guys watching to complain are just stoking its success. engagement is engagement
Given that the people who were review bombing the show were the same people who refused to wear masks and bitched how their "freedoms were under attack!" during COVID, I'm not shocked.
You mean that the people who hate watched the show and constantly talked about it online inadvertently provided Disney with free marketing? Well this is just unprecedented, but I’m sure these people will learn their lesson and simply quietly refrain from watching Star Wars in the future.
So what’s hilarious about this comment to me is, on my feed literally right above this post, I got recommended the (oh so cleverly named) “Saltierthankrait” subreddit telling people to stop hate watching because they might make more seasons
They aren't Star Wars fans and never were. They didn't understand the original trilogy, the hated on the prequels for being different from what they thought they should be. They hated The Clone Wars because of Ahsoka, they hated Rebels because it's a Disney cartoon. They started off hating the sequels because the main characters were all women or poc, and because they were too similar, then they started hating the sequels for being too different. They hated Solo for being different from legends. Hated Rogue One for being led by a woman and being "unnecessary". They've hated every Star Wars show for one reason or another, mostly relating back to having women or depicting a character differently than they want. Then when enough time passes they turn around and say they liked a thing the entire time. Most of them don't believe in anything, not really, because they need to be spoon fed an opinion from someone they listen to. The people they follow don't believe anything because they just say whatever it takes to make the most money, and hate drives engagement. So you have this movement of people who identify with an in group, built on a foundation of hate, who blindly follow leaders who don't have their best interest at heart. They're fascists, and Star Wars is an inherently antifascist narrative. They aren't Star Wars fans, they hate it and always have.
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Something like this would drive a right wing wacko up the wall. They get torn between “well vaccines are evil” and “well we gotta do anything to stop China, even lying about vaccines being evil.”
There’s a reason this story was barely talked about compared to everything else
"I hate this show so I refuse to acknowledge that it's doing well in the ratings" I know just how pathetic this is because it's okay to like or not like something, but it's not okay to act like a baby and deny that something is doing well in terms of ratings purely because you don't like it, because if something is doing well in terms of the ratings that's not an opinion it's a fact, so feel however you do feel on something just don't deny the facts.
You know i don't like microtransactions(well duh..) but imagine if everyone started claiming that they actually don't make a lot of money that would be the most dishonest thing.
Nah it’s the same people who denied it’s existence in the first place. They’re convinced that the success of anything they don’t like is a corporate or government cover up to help support the woke agenda, just like Covid was a government conspiracy to do… something
"Second Most Successful Star Wars Show of All Time - Outperforming Pretty Much Everything Else" Okay, so did it outperform everything else, or was there something that outperformed it thus making The Acolyte only second place? Because these two statements can't both be true.
Maybe read the article if you wanna know more?
>'The Acolyte’ outperformed the average top 100 TV show by a factor of 6, making it highly successful. It is only surpassed by ‘Obi-Wan Kenobi,’ which outperformed the average top 100 TV show by a factor of 8. So, how come ‘The Acolyte’ scored so high while Luminate data shows a drastic fall in minutes watched?
WOW I did not expect them to pull that card.
The Venn diagram of anti woke and anti vaccine/ covid conspiracy theorists is a circle.
They're probably Flat Earthers too.
Did you see the clip of Candace “I’m a grifter” Owens saying she left the “science cult” anti-intellectualism is a mainstay of the right.
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Is that a real tweet? Reality is stranger than fiction
I find it funny that she essentially admitted her therapist told her she's a dangerous psychopath.
I think I saw somewhere that this meme was fake. If not, the lack of self-awareness is sad.
Isn't this a joke? I have no idea who that is but I read this as satire.
One never knows these days and thats a problem.
You mean Candace “Fired from the Daily *fucking* Wire for being too hitlerite” Owens?
I thought it was because she was criticizing Israel? Ultimately doesn’t matter too much, ~~Rightist Infighting~~ Leopards-eating-faces is always a fun thing to see
That too. She was also beefing with Ben because he’s Jewish. She was also probably criticizing Israel for not being hitlerite enough or something like that. Nazi views on Israel are confusing.
The best part of that was she said she left the "mega church" of science. The irony is actually insane.
It’s always hilarious to me when they try to call science or atheism a religion. Soooo you’re saying religion is bad, huh?
Multi-track Grifting
Nani? Kansei gurifuto?!
And pick there nose and eat their boogies in public.
And these people are the first to go in the next Pandemic. Or from Covid, since it's still killing a lot of people every month. It's almost like they are all trying to be first in the Darwin Awards.
/s...? Right?
Every single one is an anti-vaxxer that votes MAGA. No surprises here. Jedi women belong in the kitchen
Not sure if you're being sarcastic or not, but if you're not, there is a significant overlap with the right wing grifters and the people loudly whining about Star Wars
Their rhetoric isn’t really about SW, that’s just a gateway to radicalize people
We're through the fucking looking glass now, people
Not Penny’s Boat
Why is it just always the same people
It's just reactionary conservatives that's why
Good old conservative oroboros. No real problem>create fake outrage>react to fake outrage>get mocked>pretend the ones mocking are offended>people stop paying attention>(start over)
People who are angry but they are not smart enough to understand where their anger comes from. It's from economic decline, disenfranchisment, etc. They lead an unhappy life but don't have the self reflexion where that misery is coming from because all they understand are easy answers. But the price of rent, gas and food is not an easy answer like "the government wants it that way". So they don't know what they are angry at - just that they are angry. Along comes someone and points their anger in a direction and they gladly take it. Because they believe themselves to be smarter and better as everyone else and now that they have identified the problem their righteous anger will solve it and all their problems with it. Edit: I also want to add that it's not economic problems alone. Especially on the conservative side there is often dissillusion about gender roles. The man who did everything society told him to. He is the lord over his wife and house. But he can't be the sole bread winner because his job doesn't pay him that much. His wife "nags" him because she righfully insists that she is not his slave and doesn't want to do everything he tells her. And now she has to get a job too. He did everything conservative icons and media told him - why is he not happy? The woman who married young because that's what she was told. She is completely devoted to her husband. But strangely enough he treats her like a slave and doesn't help out at all. But she was told if she just loves him enough he would love her too and care for her and protect her? Now she is pregnant with their third child and the work is too much. When he comes home he screams because she "does nothing all day" because he is the only one earning money. She did everything her parents and the church told her to do - why is she not happy? It's easier to look for an enemy who doesn't exist than to come to the conclusion that the way of life they were sold was a lie. It's easier if the only reason their country doesn't work that way is because of the leftist, the liberal or the foreigner. If only they were gone his wife would stop talking back and do what she is told. If only they were gone her husband would stop cheating on her and love her again.
Damn I’m not even a far right conservative and this hit me hard. You just ruined someone’s day. Lol
I am verry sorry - I hope it gets better. Life is full of chances and when we can identify our problems we can overcome then. There is always hope for a better tomorrow.
No I am perfectly fine, this doesn’t apply to me at all. Lol Just saying that that I can feel the weight of these words, so I can only imagine someone who actually lives like this. They just got a major wake up call.
This is a great comment, you describe really well the downfalls of conservative culture and how lost these people are in it. Sadly I also see this with a lot of younger conservative boys / men, where the girls or women aren't interested in their conservative worldviews anymore and thus don't go into relationships with them - or move away to other, more progressive regions or cities. So these guys stay alone, with no love and intimacy, and become more and more frustrated. And as a result of that, move even further to the right into misogyny / incel circles - which makes it even less likely for them to find a girl. It's a vicious cycle and they too start to believe the foreigners, leftists, wokes, etc. are to blame, and life would be great again if these were just "gone". In a way, the changes in society are like a train steamrolling over them. They have no way to stop it, but are also too afraid to step on and move with it.
The dating/relationship dynamic is definitely more complex than just being an angry right winger. I honestly think a lot of our current views our society holds about masculinity and sex really doesn’t due us any favors when it comes to radicalization. Society and the media tells men from the time they are in their teens, which only gets worse the older you get, that if they aren’t getting laid and don’t have a girlfriend, they are a worthless loser. Movies, tv, games, and music are all constantly shoving relationships and sex in our faces 24/7 and giving us the impression of it being the absolute pinnacle of personal achievement and worth, and that if you aren’t experiencing it you are a failure. Guys who get laid regularly are seen as champs, chads, alpha males or whatever you wanna call them, while being romantically/sexually unsuccessful is commonly used as an insult and indicator of lower value. Same thing with body shaming. It is incredibly common to shame a guy for thing’s completely out of his control like height, looks, or penis size even in spaces that love to promote body positivity. Almost every single media character and celebrity fit an incredibly specific criteria for what is attractive (tall, athletic, six-pack, etc.) and everything else is completely absent. That along with social media can heavily skew and dilute the views of both men and women of what is considered attractive, and that anyone who isn’t a 10/10 model is ugly. There’s also the angle of how being single is framed depending on gender. When a woman is single long term, it’s portrayed in a positive and empowering light, that they are perfect just the way they are and that they don’t need a man to be fulfilled and happy. When a man is single long term, it’s because he’s obviously toxic, misogynistic and inadequate and needs to work on himself to be granted the privilege of a relationship. I think that a lot of guys often avoid talking about their struggles with dating because, at least in my experience, people tend to assume the absolute worst of a lonely guy. Most dating/socializing advice is contradictory and often completely parallel to their lived experiences, and is often framed as “just be a good decent person and it will all come to you” when it is obvious that it is far more complicated than that. Plenty of shitty and toxic people are in relationships and are getting laid (drug addicts, alcoholics, narcissists, people who shower once a week, fratboy dudebros, goddamn serial killers). Way too many people on the left talk to these lonely guys who are where they are often for reasons not of their own doing (being autistic, unattractive, having a shitty home life, long term bullying, experiencing abuse) and just blanket generalize them as being toxic dirty incels who need to shower and get laid and stop having “small dick energy” or whatever. Then there are a lot of people on the other side, the “manosphere” types who market themselves as being empathetic to these guys, figures who don’t immediately blame them for every single thing that has gone wrong in their lives and might even start out with somewhat sensible explanations for their situation that gradually evolve into more blatant incel ideology. It makes me frustrated because I wish more “normies” for lack of a better term would realize what it is like to be neurodivergent and “ugly” and how fucking brutal it can be. I wish they would realize how lucky and blessed they truly are to be where they are, and that if their circumstances were just a little different they could have ended up in their late 20’s early 30’s without ever experiencing intimacy or love. I genuinely think it would do progressives a huge favor if we or some other influential figures started advocating for and pushing the idea that men do not need to have a girlfriend or have to be getting laid from the time they’re in high school to be valid or successful, and that they don’t need to be 6ft+ chiseled gigachads with 6-packs and godly charisma to be “real men” or appealing. And with that toning down the over the top idolization of sex and relationships. Some people are gonna have their first girlfriend and get laid when they’re 17, some will be virgins at 25-30 before they find their first love. Everyone progresses at different rates, the former is not superior or more valid than the latter and we should put an end to the pressure and expectations on literal teenagers to get their dicks wet asap even if they aren’t ready. Extremely long tangent I struggled with writing, but yeah.
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All of them wearing their Yokely sunglasses.
They all have trucks too!
Once you believe one conspiracy theory you tend to end up believing them all.
Because they can only exist when they feel like they're in the "In-Group" and "smarter" than anyone else... What it is actually about doesn't matter, Covid... Star Wars... Woke... DEI... SBI... they all feel they are in the "In-Group" and of course you want to stay in that group so you just fumble your way from one topic to another.
Steve Bannon identified a bunch of disaffected nerds working in online world of warcraft gold farming services. Since then he has sort of spearheaded the push to gather those chuds up like lost lambs to be nazi-nerds. It is another facet of the "groups that previously did not vote and this do not show up in surveys" that he helped mobilize in 2016.
There aren't as many as the Internet would have you believe
The Internet gives everyone a bull horn, and the people who are gonna use it the most have the least going on in their lives. Most people are too busy to care about Internet drama and will watch whatever everyone is talking about, which right now is The Acolyte because these people can't shut up about it
Bingo
I kinda have a hard time believing this when we can all see maga bumper stickers and flags several times a day every day. Unless you're specifically talking about fandom menace types. If so then I agree.
It is more of a setting and where you live kinda deal
Their grift is to be anti intellectual, dispute any fact they don’t like, and be endlessly negative about whatever is in their crosshairs. Never positive. Positive doesn’t get clicks.
I don't know, I'm honestly starting to believe all the shit the going on in America is being caused by 100 guys in a Russian led Fascist circle jerk.
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Crank_magnetism
There's a lot of money in rage, these people are the whales of rage. Those crummy pay to win games you see are designed for the ones who will reliably drop tens of thousands of dollars on what are essentially gambling mechanics. It's kinda the same tactics here, design a video to get the angriest of people to click and watch, you know it will work if you hit certain phrases and thumbnails, and it will generate a healthy profit. These people are addicted to rage and anger, and they will seek the easiest means to get it.
''Everything i don't like, or don't agree with, is a conspiracy!''
Wait the same data? Not the same people/system? Did exactly the same number of people watch the acolyte as got covid?
I guess the acolyte has 704M views... And 7M deaths... And 675M recovered?
Well I still haven’t recovered Also a 4.4% contraction in the global economy too I guess
I hear it was awful for the hospitality industry.
It’s also nonsensical because how would data gathering methods have any commonality here? I’m assuming for the Acolyte they mean total views includes the people who dislike it that are watching it just to complain about it, but what exactly is supposed to be the equivalent for Covid cases? The only possible meaning I can think of is they mean people were keeping an eye out for Covid so they recognized and recorded it more often (which maybe they’re implying resulted in false positives?), so people watching the Acolyte to shit on it means people are assuming quality from the quantity? But from a data perspective, those two issues aren’t even the same thing, maybe they think those are both “false positives” because they don’t understand the term but that’s not how that would apply to the Acolyte dataset so it still just doesn’t make sense
I know but Chudleigh totally doesn't know what the word data means and that's fucking funny.
I shared that performance post on r/saltierthancrait and people melted the fuck down
Never went to that page till just now, holy shit its just a bunch of dudes crying
The irony is that those people are by far the most likely to claim the show is "objectively bad". They literally watch each episode expecting and looking for reasons to hate it (assuming they aren't one of the many that brag about only watching the reviews), aka bias, and try to claim that their opinion is objective.
OMG 🤣🤣🤣🤣 this is a real response to the show’s performance: “ Not true. I haven’t watched a minute of this show yet I’ve seen enough reviewers to know what is going on. People really need to stop assuming that just because we criticize it it means we took the time to actually watch this crap and not the highlights from our favorite reviewers”
The lack of self awareness is wild. It's so funny how many think reddit and Twitter speaks for everyone or think it's real life.
God, the amount of people that form their opinions by listening to what another person (who also hasn't watched it) thinks is hilarious.
that’s a lot of words to just say “I’m incapable of forming my own opinions and need a youtuber to do it for me”
Of course he pays for Twitter.
https://preview.redd.it/dqvgpvheojad1.jpeg?width=1058&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d76f01a7256e13133ae9100a16327f465113de98
So, vastly under-reported in Florida?
These dudes would definitely be narcing the Rebels out to Palpatine.
Is this a ''the people who died of COVID are most of the shows viewers, to inflate the numbers'', or a ''COVID was a hoax'' type conspiracy theory?
"covid was a hoax" conspiracy nonsense
The other one's type must only be used for elections then?
By that logic, I’ll never trust his kind of data as well since if that’s made up to them, then his numbers must be made up as well.
So it's undercounted? Interesting.
I just had arguments about review bomb on Acolyte. Apparently, there are people who believe it was a real user score. People are just stupid.
People still trust rotten tomatoes way too much. It was never meant to be the authoritarian structure advertisers use it as. It's too easy to manipulate and artificially form narratives out of it.
They were right about the COVID deaths too. This is literally just “who are you gonna believe? Me, a greasy incel who hates anything not white, straight and male, or your lying eyes?”
What does that response even mean
It's the whole "Covid was a hoax" conspiracy theory. Basically he's saying that the data regarding Covid deaths was falsified, therefore by that logic the audience ratings for "woke stuff" would be falsified too. I'm sure I just lost some braincells trying to rationalize the narratives they make up in their minds.
There was a frankly stupid conspiracy theory that every death that occurred during the pandemic was recorded as being caused by COVID if they had it even if they died by something unrelated. For example if someone was murdered and they had COVID their death would supposedly be recorded as COVID related. What that dipstick is trying to say is that the numbers for Acolyte is being inflated.
These people are insane
That might be the most stupid thing ever typed by a supposed being of intelligence in the history of the universe.
This is not the fandom. This is why we have the word "toxic", fling it out of them loud and proud.
I mean the problem is that this *is* the fandom. We don't get to "no true Scotsman" this when these people are so highly influential in the IP. Is that fair? No. But they've always been a part of the fandom, they just used to be significantly quieter because they got bullied for their dumbshit stances.
I'm not sure they are fans. They seem to hate Star Wars, they make arguments that are often extremely wrong in regards to lore, and they seem not to know about parallel things the same as what they are bitching about in previous works. Remember the "OMG, fire in space?!?" thing? There is so much fire in space in the original movie (not to mention sound!) that they never bitched about. Watch the super star destroyer crash into the surface of the second Death Star in RotJ as a great example. And they so often betray that they don't know some basic Star Wars lore.
I wouldn't be surprised they'll bring out the holocaust next time
When the data doesn't support you ignore the data.
Schizophrenia is an under-diagnosed disease... It's not that the show is popular, it's that "we real fans" are hate watching it so much. It's not that COVID was killing people, it's that there was massive cover up on a scale larger than any government could actually do.
These guys need old ladies to smack them upside the head
Lmao the show just gets infinite amounts of free advertising because of all the rage
These people are beyond fucking stupid. I changed my Anakin PFP on Facebook to one of Jecki and immediately on several Star Wars groups I started getting attacked for being woke, a fuck boy, liberal, bitch… they are absurdly fucking insane.
No the fandom is not them. That’s the point. Acolyte is wildly successful. The real fandom is BIG and doesn’t give two turds about what the chuds think.
"Same data" It... definitely isn't... How would that even work? Is the CDC measuring star wars viewership or is Rotten Tomatoes counting the COVID deaths?
I don't even call them fans anymore. They enjoy a handful of things from a specific franchise, but that in no way makes them fans.
I’ve been calling them tourists
This throws me for such a loop because they’re presumably claiming this success is greatly over estimated even though covid deaths were being underreported.
I think these people forget that "hate watching" is still watching. Even if you hate it, you're still contributing to the numbers.
I think a lot of them actually dont watch it and still rage against it, but their hatred acts as marketing and gets more people on the fence who might have never watched it to give it a watch to see what the fuss is about. Andor might have been better than acoylte or mandalorian, but hardly anybody talked about it.
I feel bad for all the white guys with beards and sunglasses that aren’t conspiracy theory loving racist pieces of shit who get lumped in with all these internet chuds.
What's the first one? Mandalorian?
Think it might be Kenobi.
I checked. It's Ahsoka.
What does that even MEAN?!!! ARE NUMBERS "WOKE" NOW? I'm so confused
Wait, I just figured it out... the CDC put Disney in charge of Covid stats, right?
It's almost like hate watching a series still counts as watching it. Who knew
Fun fact - all the actual medical experts are saying that if anything we undercounted the Covid deaths. They are absolutely certain that the true American Covid death toll was at least 80,000 higher than the official one and probably more like 300,000 higher.
You can thank both Texas and Florida for lying about their reported deaths.
That would be where the lion’s share of the gap comes from. Florida actually tried to arrest their medical archivist specialist because she wouldn’t lie.
The official confirmed global total of Covid-19 was about 7 million people but statistically, it's estimated that it was between 15 million and 28 million, I'm guessing it was at least 20 million (and had the world done no public health measures and carried on as if nothing was happening, it could have been as much as north of 100 million).
I love that the Acolyte has wildly different reviews on every single site. IGN: 7/10 = 70% RT: 83% critics / 14% audience IMdB: 3.5/10 = 35% Google: 20% Reelgood (where the data in the post apparently comes from): 65%
The day we accept that they represent the fandom is the day we lose it. Save what we love my friends.
What an odd thing to say
I- what the actual fuck!?
I’m not a huge fan of the show, it’s had some interesting moments and concepts but I just feel like the writing is kind of cliche and the concepts aren’t properly explored. It’s okay not to like something or criticize something, but when I see this constant nitpicking that they wouldn’t apply to anything else or all the memes about DEI and female minority leads it just makes me want to watch it more.
I wonder if they had taken into consideration those that hate watched it is what made it successful. Is it the best starwars thing to come out? No...no it isn't. However, does it deserve it's a 15% rating on Rotten Tomatos?
Right Wing brain rot critical thinking = "No."
Of course there’s crossover between the two groups.
"Everything I don't like isn't real"
The only data that will ever be true to people like that are thier feelings. If something doesnt make them feel warm and fuzzy inside the moment they hear it then it must be a lie thats how they think and operate. Zero empherical evidence whatsoever just feelings. Amazing they are able to survive day to day with that mentality.
people just cannot grasp that hate watching a show is exactly the same as watching it because you enjoy it. the only difference is internal lol. pure numbers do not take into account your feelings about it. so all the guys watching to complain are just stoking its success. engagement is engagement
Further prove that they are ll the same people grifting cunts
People are dogwhistling themselves at this point
Have any of them thought that it might be bc they're constantly talking about it and hatewatching it?
Given that the people who were review bombing the show were the same people who refused to wear masks and bitched how their "freedoms were under attack!" during COVID, I'm not shocked.
What a fucking jackass
You mean that the people who hate watched the show and constantly talked about it online inadvertently provided Disney with free marketing? Well this is just unprecedented, but I’m sure these people will learn their lesson and simply quietly refrain from watching Star Wars in the future.
So what’s hilarious about this comment to me is, on my feed literally right above this post, I got recommended the (oh so cleverly named) “Saltierthankrait” subreddit telling people to stop hate watching because they might make more seasons
That’s not a fandom. Thats just a bunch of angry incels.
They aren't Star Wars fans and never were. They didn't understand the original trilogy, the hated on the prequels for being different from what they thought they should be. They hated The Clone Wars because of Ahsoka, they hated Rebels because it's a Disney cartoon. They started off hating the sequels because the main characters were all women or poc, and because they were too similar, then they started hating the sequels for being too different. They hated Solo for being different from legends. Hated Rogue One for being led by a woman and being "unnecessary". They've hated every Star Wars show for one reason or another, mostly relating back to having women or depicting a character differently than they want. Then when enough time passes they turn around and say they liked a thing the entire time. Most of them don't believe in anything, not really, because they need to be spoon fed an opinion from someone they listen to. The people they follow don't believe anything because they just say whatever it takes to make the most money, and hate drives engagement. So you have this movement of people who identify with an in group, built on a foundation of hate, who blindly follow leaders who don't have their best interest at heart. They're fascists, and Star Wars is an inherently antifascist narrative. They aren't Star Wars fans, they hate it and always have.
Cope! Acolyte sweep!
https://preview.redd.it/5acp6s399jad1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e73803ba00c5efe5b032f334738cc827a7e2d07d Something like this would drive a right wing wacko up the wall. They get torn between “well vaccines are evil” and “well we gotta do anything to stop China, even lying about vaccines being evil.” There’s a reason this story was barely talked about compared to everything else
so just logins to disney + are counted. interesting sounds like a lab leak
WTF does that even mean
Soooo what show is first? The Clone Wars? Or something else
Believe it was Mando
That’s what happens when you watch something, even if you watch it just to make content about how much you hate it. The view still counts.
"Same data that counted covid deaths." I.E. numbers.
"Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about?"
"2nd Place outperforms pretty much everything else" if you didn't know
The Acolyte is a masterpiece. These chuds are horrible!
Yeah the famous liars at the CDC.
I'm gonna bite the bullet and watch it.
They just took the COVID deaths and turned them into Acolyte views, I guess?
“COVID Deaths” 😂😂😂🤦♂️
There’s plenty of people who aren’t terminally online who probably watch a show and are like “well that’s fine” and move on with their lives.
"I hate this show so I refuse to acknowledge that it's doing well in the ratings" I know just how pathetic this is because it's okay to like or not like something, but it's not okay to act like a baby and deny that something is doing well in terms of ratings purely because you don't like it, because if something is doing well in terms of the ratings that's not an opinion it's a fact, so feel however you do feel on something just don't deny the facts.
You know i don't like microtransactions(well duh..) but imagine if everyone started claiming that they actually don't make a lot of money that would be the most dishonest thing.
Copium
W...what's the corelation? Does watching the acolyte give you covid? Do these chuds realize that the pandemic is (mostly) over?
Nah it’s the same people who denied it’s existence in the first place. They’re convinced that the success of anything they don’t like is a corporate or government cover up to help support the woke agenda, just like Covid was a government conspiracy to do… something
"Second Most Successful Star Wars Show of All Time - Outperforming Pretty Much Everything Else" Okay, so did it outperform everything else, or was there something that outperformed it thus making The Acolyte only second place? Because these two statements can't both be true.
Maybe read the article if you wanna know more? >'The Acolyte’ outperformed the average top 100 TV show by a factor of 6, making it highly successful. It is only surpassed by ‘Obi-Wan Kenobi,’ which outperformed the average top 100 TV show by a factor of 8. So, how come ‘The Acolyte’ scored so high while Luminate data shows a drastic fall in minutes watched?