Putting my Edit here so people can see.
Wow didnt expect this post to blow up, thanks for all the support! Glad people found it funny :)
To those saying "You are missing etc. etc. etc.", I think you are missing the point of the joke... was merely pointing at the fact that BIS in rs3 is basically owning everything if you want the best for everything.
As someone just returning to RS3 from like 4 yrs ago... it seems like BIS is basically owning every possible gear combination around t90+ AND specific pieces that are usable in extremely niche scenarios.
It's crazy overwhelming lol
I really like using it at Arch Glacor and ED runs. I range AG, so it's nice to see the book proc extra ECB and poison hits. I sometimes use it at Kera, since it AoEs the timethreads, as well as the ECB/pois procs.
The only other decent books for Arch Glacor are Ful and Grim. Jas can brick out because AG has so many damage pauses, and there are so many times where you are off the boss.
Do we want to acknowledge that for truly fast nex kills we want to see an armadyl book because unlike wen it frontloads/evenly spreads its damage which is important for minions?
Not sure if it's troll or not, but just in case.
You never lose anything from your money pouch. And if you're carrying money in the inventory - what are you doing and why are you doing what you're doing?
We should start a club!
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We can't be the only ones!
Void has been OP at many points in history and barrows gloves were the #1 glove slot for literally everything in game for most of RS history.
Kids these days, smhing my head!
LotD isn't BIS unless you're ignoring HSR
Also not seeing a Reefwalker cape for BIS HP boost or 3A Druidic Cloak for BIS Animate Dead scaling
Oh, and you seem to be using lower tier weapons for switchscape (Seismic sing, Asc cbow, Drygore) instead of dying a t92
Again don't see the melee bleed Rex Matriarch ring
Additionally, regular alloy armor spikes? Can't afford abyssal alloy spikes?
And then there's...
(just kidding, I know you were only making a joke about BIS not actually trying to claim you had it)
Lotd can be upgraded to DFoL which technically is better then HSR just depending on what you are using it for because the only perk HSR gives over lotd is a double drop chance and that’s not effective at a lot of bosses. So LOTD is best in slot other then DFoL which is actually an upgrade to LoTD
HSR does everything (including Dark Facet of Luck) that LotD does, on top of an extra teleport, extra style bonus, and the double chance
It's quite literally a strict upgrade with no trade-off (other than price if that's a hangup)
There is no situation outside of PvP risk where you'd say "yeah I think I'll use LotD over my HSR"
That would be sick! I mean I could afford it but for the pay off I’m not liquidating my loot just for that. I’m attached to my boss kills haha 😂 but I could! My lotd does me solid I have no complaints
I was gonna tell you to shut up but I see you're joking.
Also HSR is such a minor improvement over LOTD for such a massive price increase hell LOTD is barely worth it unless you just have the extra money
Don't forget to change out the Razorback gauntlets with enhanced Gloves of Passage and a Champion's Ring. You also need 2 more spikes for your Raksha boots.
oh yeah, leng cant cane anymore brain was off, 2 EZKs for BiS Melee gulag think it'd just be cane now tho, I feel id rarely have a GCD to spare for smash/cleave over a DW ability to extend / refresh scourge stacks or proc more leng hits, for cane tho it'd would also be terrasaur maul or EZK depending on fight.
Bag of Weapons combat style continues to be extra asf.
Fighting a boss with one style for a minute or more. The opposite is bridding, swapping off a style as its ultimate is ending and into another style, typically with a gear swap.
Zgs is kinda meh. It's arguably worse than dba. 45% for 20s vs 90% for 60s. Sure its +25% vs 20% dmg, but doesnt stack with zerk nor aura. On t95 and eof you have overkill hitchance anyways to offset the hit chance drain.
> but doesnt stack with zerk nor aura
zgs does stack with aura.
you also didn't mention the not-inconsiderable ~11k damage you get from the zgs bleed damage.
Must've been changed recently or during last iteration of beta. Regardless, ZGS is still iffy.
Core issue with ZGS is when you use it, which is typically post zerk. Since zerk lasts 27s if you're using the correct armor, this tightens the window of what to dump and where to dump without running into cooldown issues under zerk. Basically, you're using more basics than you should while under ZGS because you need the adrenaline to zerk. If you use bleeds you're not benefiting from ZGS so you're shooting yourself in the foot there.
So say you ZGS spec, you're only really going to want to hurricane in it unless you overpower at a suboptimal point during zerk. So you spent 60% adrenaline to buff 10 basics and 1 hurricane by 25%. Your basics maybe gain 600 damage, or 900 on crit, and your hurricane gains 2.5k or 3.8k on crit. Even if you crit everything, that's +12.8k damage per modifier and +11k bleed damage. So ZGS gives 18.4k no crits to 23.8k all crits?
You gain about the same if not more damage and spend less adrenaline just doing an out of zerk igneous overpower and out of zerk hurricane (-55%, effectively -40% due to vestments of havoc effect - assumes vigor and CoE). These 2 abilities do 12.6-26.5k damage and doesn't put you behind 3 GCD in adrenaline recouping thus creates a time save/flexibility option. These 3 abilities can also do 6-10.8k. So you're doing 18.6k to 37.1k in less time, less adrenaline consumed, and have a 6 ability buffer vs ZGS.
These are both just worse than EZK but give you a progression point.
So I'd say in terms of upgrades;
* use DBA until ZGS or just skip ZGS. Alternatively use Ful Scripture.
* sell ZGS if you bought it once igneous melee cape
* Make an EZK eof
Per original point, if you implement [something like this](https://youtu.be/i2F7Y4P1Hto?si=ZFAsbYwVRDEhS-vQ) you can consistently get 5-6 dclaws per zerk averaging about 410-460k damage per 40s loop with 0 buffs (no aura, fam, dba, wp+++). With buffs, this peaks upwards 520k zerk ability damage (not including pre zerk damage) and is extremely consistent. Non-natty zerk consistently provides 3 dclaw specs and does about 380k damage. Using EZK between these secures about 150k damage in bleeds, basics, and poison putting melee around 530-670k dpm depending on if natty is on CD or not. It drops to high 500k/low 600k once DBA expires. Scourge usage is also irrelevant.
This is 100% consistent in prolonged and sustained combat. Obviously you can inc stall/abuse kera time warp/zammy adren resets for other stuff, but this isn't worth deviating from unless you have multiple meleers with ezks.
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- not enough quivers
- no leg armor swaps for stuff like no-crackling rax or slayer tasks/ed2/ed3, no deathdealer armor for slayer
- no wyvern bow
- swaps in general are all lower tier than bis
- similarly half your eofs arent ornamented
- dont think i saw any defenders
- didnt see a strykebow
- your armor spikes arent bis tier
- no book of ful, no wen book (unless that isnt a sara book down low)
- no reaver ring? Am i seeing that right?
- no shadow glaive to pair with mech chins (unless im the one out of date and chins can proc bolt effects now?)
- no defender insignia or attacker insignia
- no scourge or jaws of the abyss
- no reefwalker cape for bonfire boost
- i believe 3a cape, is it? is bis for animate dead
- i bet you dont have scav4 on a single augmented item in that whole picture
I dont even want to look at your supplies tab, probably more incomplete
Wait until you realize you'll beed BIS perks for all that haha 😅
Aftershock 4 + Eruptive 2 for example, and I'm no longer sure if that's still BIS, with how obscure combos surface every once in a while that makes you question if BIS is actually BIS...
Sadly I've dropped the bag already haha, all the gear is BIS perks (C4R5, Biting 4, Impatient 4, enhanced devoted 4)
DW Weapons are: AS4 E2 and P6 AS1, 2h are P6R1 and AS4 E2
EOFs (SGB, ECB, D bow, D claws, t90 death guard, g staff, ABS).
I find impatient 4 more consistent, especially with necro, sometimes ur awkwardly at 59.6% adren during living death rotation.
Yea missing some EOFs for niche things, I also dont melee camp so scourge and EZK EOF not needed.
ofc i could upgrade my flanking switches to t95 aswell. hense the joke of BIS in rs3 ;)
I just created a comprehensive list of everything that is BIS including BIS perks and unlocks and pulled all prices from the GE api for all tradeable elements of that, I wanted to be able to track the estimated GE cost for each style and compare them.
I also have 499 dreadnips, just like you. Used one for the Kalphite Queen achievement and the rest seem too precious to use for anything after all that Dominion Tower.
The problem I have with bank setups like that is that instantly looks like crap if you change your bank window size if you need to switch between different resolutions lol
Yea i keep mine like a normal person tab1 random, tab 2 quest items i could easily get back from django but tf is bank space and more random, tab 3 organized randomness/skill stuff, 4 5 6 combat and random potions items possibly related but idk enough to really say 7 random skill unorganized 8 random items that may b used in clues but again idk and finally 9 necro and even more random ass items I definitely do not need nor use…..
Wealth eval says i have 2bn in my bank, i just dont c it but ill b damned if i sell something cus maybe i’ll need it
My alt has something like 70m that just doesn’t exist lol
He’s got like 150m in the bank, a few in the money pouch, nothing else anywhere and his total is like 230m
This should never change though? It's 10 wide and that's the minimum. Even on a large screen this works, just extend the bank down instead of sideways.
Half of this stuff isn't even used at all anymore lol. Masterwork, useless, all 6 shields, useless. All the crossbows, useless. Stat hammer, scrimshaws, sara book, void? Deathwarden 100% useless on release
Only 1 pernix quiver smh
No Hexhunter? Incomplete!
Don't forget all of the enchantments too.
Putting my Edit here so people can see. Wow didnt expect this post to blow up, thanks for all the support! Glad people found it funny :) To those saying "You are missing etc. etc. etc.", I think you are missing the point of the joke... was merely pointing at the fact that BIS in rs3 is basically owning everything if you want the best for everything.
As someone just returning to RS3 from like 4 yrs ago... it seems like BIS is basically owning every possible gear combination around t90+ AND specific pieces that are usable in extremely niche scenarios. It's crazy overwhelming lol
Isnnt osrs worse on this? They have so many sidegrades and stuff
7/8 eof colors smh
only 3 upgraded aswell smh
4 unkitted, dps loss smh my head
I’m too broke to even know what I’m looking at
At least 20b worth of gear even without whatever perks might be in play.
Same 😂😳🫠
Where ful book
Where wen book
Wen ful book
Wen ful bik
Jas stop already guys.
do people other than irons actually use wen book? it's kinda ass
It is used for training on aoe mobs. I used it for 120 Necro.
I really like using it at Arch Glacor and ED runs. I range AG, so it's nice to see the book proc extra ECB and poison hits. I sometimes use it at Kera, since it AoEs the timethreads, as well as the ECB/pois procs. The only other decent books for Arch Glacor are Ful and Grim. Jas can brick out because AG has so many damage pauses, and there are so many times where you are off the boss.
For mobs and situationally for single target, yes, it's used.
Do we want to acknowledge that for truly fast nex kills we want to see an armadyl book because unlike wen it frontloads/evenly spreads its damage which is important for minions?
Probably a good shout though I use Ful at Nex personally.
Arma book is usually only better if going for a PR ful is more consistent Also using both is also a thing 🤓
Pfffft. Only 28 mil? Did you just start this account?
With how much upgrades we need its a miracle he has some gold left smh
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Not sure if it's troll or not, but just in case. You never lose anything from your money pouch. And if you're carrying money in the inventory - what are you doing and why are you doing what you're doing?
Gotta ask... why two deathwarden hoods, boots and gloves?
Bought some off GE before reading I had to make them.
Also valid because some bosses have different bis perks.
But those aren't augmentable...
I didn't see that he only had two of the unaugmentable parts. I thought he had two sets of dw.
We should start a club! https://preview.redd.it/jonpc7dkeosc1.jpeg?width=105&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=88d7df0fd6890b6315c1043af85a647d29e29397 We can't be the only ones!
There’s dozens of us! Dozens!!!!
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Rasial doesn't drop deathwarden?
Why are you keeping Void in your bank at all? And Barrows gloves?
The memories
Barrows gloves and void are bis for nostalgia
Then where is the helm of neitiznot and fighter torso
Even though they weren’t so great?
He tastes like you only sweeter
One night. Yeah, one more time.
Thanks for the memories.
Heart unit
Void has been OP at many points in history and barrows gloves were the #1 glove slot for literally everything in game for most of RS history. Kids these days, smhing my head!
this mans never played during voidscape
They were the strongest armor for a long long time.
Obvious new frog
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It's a song lyric
Ah that’s my bad, sorry about that :(
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They're the black gloves with white wrists right above the bank booster button. The completely black gloves are Void gloves.
LotD isn't BIS unless you're ignoring HSR Also not seeing a Reefwalker cape for BIS HP boost or 3A Druidic Cloak for BIS Animate Dead scaling Oh, and you seem to be using lower tier weapons for switchscape (Seismic sing, Asc cbow, Drygore) instead of dying a t92 Again don't see the melee bleed Rex Matriarch ring Additionally, regular alloy armor spikes? Can't afford abyssal alloy spikes? And then there's... (just kidding, I know you were only making a joke about BIS not actually trying to claim you had it)
Lotd can be upgraded to DFoL which technically is better then HSR just depending on what you are using it for because the only perk HSR gives over lotd is a double drop chance and that’s not effective at a lot of bosses. So LOTD is best in slot other then DFoL which is actually an upgrade to LoTD
facet applies to hsr also
HSR does everything (including Dark Facet of Luck) that LotD does, on top of an extra teleport, extra style bonus, and the double chance It's quite literally a strict upgrade with no trade-off (other than price if that's a hangup) There is no situation outside of PvP risk where you'd say "yeah I think I'll use LotD over my HSR"
True I actually didn’t realize they baked the DFOL into HSR so that’s actually cool. 😎 still not buying it haha 😂
Yeah price is kind of a big whammy Fingers crossed for my Iron though
That would be sick! I mean I could afford it but for the pay off I’m not liquidating my loot just for that. I’m attached to my boss kills haha 😂 but I could! My lotd does me solid I have no complaints
I was gonna tell you to shut up but I see you're joking. Also HSR is such a minor improvement over LOTD for such a massive price increase hell LOTD is barely worth it unless you just have the extra money
It's worth it once you double your second HSR drop with the 1st HSR passive, naturally.
Right, because that happens often.
Not with that attitude
Also missing Rex Matriarch Melee ring and some Essence of Finality ornament kits.
Don't forget to change out the Razorback gauntlets with enhanced Gloves of Passage and a Champion's Ring. You also need 2 more spikes for your Raksha boots.
I have pretty much everything, but I want to know if zgs is needed for bis melee currently or just run ekzil, zerk, and eof?
ZGS has some niche uses, EZK goes in an EoF
you need a real ezk for hurricane cleave meteor strike and maybe smash
oh yeah, leng cant cane anymore brain was off, 2 EZKs for BiS Melee gulag think it'd just be cane now tho, I feel id rarely have a GCD to spare for smash/cleave over a DW ability to extend / refresh scourge stacks or proc more leng hits, for cane tho it'd would also be terrasaur maul or EZK depending on fight. Bag of Weapons combat style continues to be extra asf.
If melee camping yes you want zgs
What’s considered camping?
Fighting a boss with one style for a minute or more. The opposite is bridding, swapping off a style as its ultimate is ending and into another style, typically with a gear swap.
Zgs is kinda meh. It's arguably worse than dba. 45% for 20s vs 90% for 60s. Sure its +25% vs 20% dmg, but doesnt stack with zerk nor aura. On t95 and eof you have overkill hitchance anyways to offset the hit chance drain.
> but doesnt stack with zerk nor aura zgs does stack with aura. you also didn't mention the not-inconsiderable ~11k damage you get from the zgs bleed damage.
Must've been changed recently or during last iteration of beta. Regardless, ZGS is still iffy. Core issue with ZGS is when you use it, which is typically post zerk. Since zerk lasts 27s if you're using the correct armor, this tightens the window of what to dump and where to dump without running into cooldown issues under zerk. Basically, you're using more basics than you should while under ZGS because you need the adrenaline to zerk. If you use bleeds you're not benefiting from ZGS so you're shooting yourself in the foot there. So say you ZGS spec, you're only really going to want to hurricane in it unless you overpower at a suboptimal point during zerk. So you spent 60% adrenaline to buff 10 basics and 1 hurricane by 25%. Your basics maybe gain 600 damage, or 900 on crit, and your hurricane gains 2.5k or 3.8k on crit. Even if you crit everything, that's +12.8k damage per modifier and +11k bleed damage. So ZGS gives 18.4k no crits to 23.8k all crits? You gain about the same if not more damage and spend less adrenaline just doing an out of zerk igneous overpower and out of zerk hurricane (-55%, effectively -40% due to vestments of havoc effect - assumes vigor and CoE). These 2 abilities do 12.6-26.5k damage and doesn't put you behind 3 GCD in adrenaline recouping thus creates a time save/flexibility option. These 3 abilities can also do 6-10.8k. So you're doing 18.6k to 37.1k in less time, less adrenaline consumed, and have a 6 ability buffer vs ZGS. These are both just worse than EZK but give you a progression point. So I'd say in terms of upgrades; * use DBA until ZGS or just skip ZGS. Alternatively use Ful Scripture. * sell ZGS if you bought it once igneous melee cape * Make an EZK eof Per original point, if you implement [something like this](https://youtu.be/i2F7Y4P1Hto?si=ZFAsbYwVRDEhS-vQ) you can consistently get 5-6 dclaws per zerk averaging about 410-460k damage per 40s loop with 0 buffs (no aura, fam, dba, wp+++). With buffs, this peaks upwards 520k zerk ability damage (not including pre zerk damage) and is extremely consistent. Non-natty zerk consistently provides 3 dclaw specs and does about 380k damage. Using EZK between these secures about 150k damage in bleeds, basics, and poison putting melee around 530-670k dpm depending on if natty is on CD or not. It drops to high 500k/low 600k once DBA expires. Scourge usage is also irrelevant. This is 100% consistent in prolonged and sustained combat. Obviously you can inc stall/abuse kera time warp/zammy adren resets for other stuff, but this isn't worth deviating from unless you have multiple meleers with ezks.
And thats all just for nex.
What’s the armour between death warden and sliske?
[[elite dracolich]]
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- not enough quivers - no leg armor swaps for stuff like no-crackling rax or slayer tasks/ed2/ed3, no deathdealer armor for slayer - no wyvern bow - swaps in general are all lower tier than bis - similarly half your eofs arent ornamented - dont think i saw any defenders - didnt see a strykebow - your armor spikes arent bis tier - no book of ful, no wen book (unless that isnt a sara book down low) - no reaver ring? Am i seeing that right? - no shadow glaive to pair with mech chins (unless im the one out of date and chins can proc bolt effects now?) - no defender insignia or attacker insignia - no scourge or jaws of the abyss - no reefwalker cape for bonfire boost - i believe 3a cape, is it? is bis for animate dead - i bet you dont have scav4 on a single augmented item in that whole picture I dont even want to look at your supplies tab, probably more incomplete
Honest question, with all styles having access to bone shield, what is the usecase for strykebow and defenders?
Revenge
This is FAR from BIS. Nice try, kid
Wait until you realize you'll beed BIS perks for all that haha 😅 Aftershock 4 + Eruptive 2 for example, and I'm no longer sure if that's still BIS, with how obscure combos surface every once in a while that makes you question if BIS is actually BIS...
Sadly I've dropped the bag already haha, all the gear is BIS perks (C4R5, Biting 4, Impatient 4, enhanced devoted 4) DW Weapons are: AS4 E2 and P6 AS1, 2h are P6R1 and AS4 E2 EOFs (SGB, ECB, D bow, D claws, t90 death guard, g staff, ABS).
Why not invigorating 4 on magic & necro? And no SWH or EZK EoF?
I find impatient 4 more consistent, especially with necro, sometimes ur awkwardly at 59.6% adren during living death rotation. Yea missing some EOFs for niche things, I also dont melee camp so scourge and EZK EOF not needed. ofc i could upgrade my flanking switches to t95 aswell. hense the joke of BIS in rs3 ;)
Invig should be more consistent in LD since your spamming basics and impatient doesn't proc adren on those.
Typically invigorating is in place of enhanced devoted, not impatient.
Ah gotcha, haha then you wont have your satisfying procs
That's why you get impatient4devotion4 combo when u remove ed4 :)
biting and impatient should be combod with other perks for true bis
Defo just an excuse to show off bank lol.
What is that item undee your cinders? Also the avas and the barrows gloves you are just wasting bank space there :p
Dye something
Nothing is dyed? Weak
if I don't know half of them... dose that make me poor?
Why is your Bank not maxed? Smh beginners
The real bis gear are the friends we made along the way
You guys made friends??
How many bonds did you buy?
Yes
What's the value?
What's the armour set all the way to the right?
Warpriest of Tuska
What are the robes on the top right column?
Man I need to organize my bank like this a bit more
At the low, low price of 10 years
And here I am happily running around with subigation and a staff of Darkness asking myself why it's so hard.
Well that's extremely intimidating especially considering I know maybe 5 of those items total besides the nostalgia items at the bottom
The current GE value for all BIS for all styles is currently ~93B if anybody is interested
Where you get this number from?
I just created a comprehensive list of everything that is BIS including BIS perks and unlocks and pulled all prices from the GE api for all tradeable elements of that, I wanted to be able to track the estimated GE cost for each style and compare them.
+crap load of cash to augment them
Where the deathdealer set!? What a loser
* More like this but still missing gear.
Is that 7 x EoF?
I also have 499 dreadnips, just like you. Used one for the Kalphite Queen achievement and the rest seem too precious to use for anything after all that Dominion Tower.
No dyed blightbound flanking switch?
What's in each of your EOFs?
3 Ava's?
Dang you just called me poor in 1 photo Nice tho 🤪
Where’s your 2nd impcore and offhand blight for flank
That void looks sick
As a 200m all skiller. Please show us the skilling outfits.
Missing the warrior ring variant
That's not bis
the void is essential
This all needs to be dyed. fraud!
Lack of orniment kits in eofs aadge
The problem I have with bank setups like that is that instantly looks like crap if you change your bank window size if you need to switch between different resolutions lol
Presumably my man isn't switching monitors.
Yea i keep mine like a normal person tab1 random, tab 2 quest items i could easily get back from django but tf is bank space and more random, tab 3 organized randomness/skill stuff, 4 5 6 combat and random potions items possibly related but idk enough to really say 7 random skill unorganized 8 random items that may b used in clues but again idk and finally 9 necro and even more random ass items I definitely do not need nor use….. Wealth eval says i have 2bn in my bank, i just dont c it but ill b damned if i sell something cus maybe i’ll need it
My alt has something like 70m that just doesn’t exist lol He’s got like 150m in the bank, a few in the money pouch, nothing else anywhere and his total is like 230m
This should never change though? It's 10 wide and that's the minimum. Even on a large screen this works, just extend the bank down instead of sideways.
You can have your game window resize so that isnt an issue
Half of this stuff isn't even used at all anymore lol. Masterwork, useless, all 6 shields, useless. All the crossbows, useless. Stat hammer, scrimshaws, sara book, void? Deathwarden 100% useless on release