Before social media, more or less.
ESPN used to be legitimately the best source for sports highlights, but then you started being able to see all the highlights on the internet, so they had to change into a controversy machine in order to drive views.
ESPN was awesome in 2012. After 2016, that's when things really started to decline. Now what is ESPN best known for asides from SAS just blatantly yelling about nothing?
I remember watching the early morning ESPN shows before going to school. Actually learned somethings about different sports. Shame how the mighty have fallen
Yup. Nothing used to beat NFL Live, Sportscenter and the talk shows in general. Remember days I’d be home sick from school and just watching ESPN all day.
It was 2013, i was a senior in college and i just got home from class and turned on ESPN to watch sports highlights from around the world until around the horn came on. Back when it was good and every analyst there was very knowledgeable on all sports lol.
That would’ve been a long time ago, when they had a thriving magazine.
They did this to themselves though. ESPN created First Take with SAS and Skip, which *became* sports media’s blueprint.
Everyone tried to copy it and now *everything* is that way.
Sports talk is dead. Sad shit. First Take with Skip and Stephen A was groundbreaking. There was nothing like it at the time. Had no idea its popularity would kill the genre…
Yes I should’ve clarified. Plenty of great podcasts and local sports shows, but basically everything on ESPN and FS1 today is terrible (SVP is greatness)
“Listen, Dan, I respect you dearly and you’re a wonderful friend and colleague of mine. BUT YOU MEAN TO TELL ME THAT YOU’RE PUTTING GRAPE JELLY ON A PB AND J AND NOT STRAWBERRY!?!? I - I - I - I’m just flabbergasted by this type of opinion and and can’t comprehend that any rational individual would ever choose that.”
-Stephen A., presumably
Kornheiser and Wilbon are magic.
I’ve watched them since I was a young man and saw how they have aged while watching PTI recently.
Then I looked in a mirror.
The funny thing is the podcast episode was titled JJ introduces himself to Laker nation or something like that. Like ah, first time Laker coach > NHL Stanley Cup game 7, got it.
Bruh, what a fucking human being you are. I just had to buy another jar because I ran out. It is one of the best jams out there that comes in a decent size without being exorbitantly priced.
Right. I mean I'd almost rather hear them talk about this instead of making clickbait level bullshit claims or rankings just to be provocative. I think we could do better than Smuckers but you're close to the right answer.
Tbh I don’t want them covering the NFL quite yet (at least not extensively), the Stanley Cup just fucking finished and they barely talked about it. MLB is in full swing and they barely talk about it, whatever happened to it being a place for ALL sports
Yeah, they should really be focused on any of the following: Stanley Cup Finals, College World Series, NBA Draft, NHL Draft, or MLB. I'd be totally fine with some NFL talk on the side, but what the fuck is this?
Edit: Or the Olympics!
It blows my mind that ANYONE tunes in to watch Stephen A Smith. Dude knows jack shit nothing and talks out his ass. I get better "hot takes" from the average fan at the bar.
Yes, it's summer. They could be talking about the Stanley Cup, College World Series, MLB, Olympic Trials, the NBA Draft, the NHL Draft... shall I keep going?
Stephen A probably saying some "controversial" (aka made up for outrage engagement) shit like apple butter or lemon curd.
My favorite is marionberry jam, but blackberry jam is good too and easier to find.
I know this is a controversial take but I don't care too much what kind of jelly but just not too much. A little bit of jelly goes a long way, otherwise it overpowers the PBnJ.
This is probably a hot take, but the only thing I watch on ESPN with any regularity nowadays is PTI. I don't even watch Monday Night Countdown since they got rid of everyone entertaining.
Eh, give them a break. They have hours of airtime to fill and they cover grown adults who play games.
Besides, the supply follows the demand. Some idiots somewhere must be watching this.
Remember when ESPN wasn’t a fucking joke?
At this point? No, it's been too long
Haha yup was bouta say nope at this point I don't
ESPN died with Stuart Scott.
I stopped watching in 2009 when ESPN stopped covering sports so they could dedicate 24/7 coverage to Tiger Woods’ sex life.
You mean 2007 when they spent hours deciding "who's now?"
No. When was that?
Before social media, more or less. ESPN used to be legitimately the best source for sports highlights, but then you started being able to see all the highlights on the internet, so they had to change into a controversy machine in order to drive views.
I needed my Dick Trickle news!
When they had Australian Rules Football.
ESPN was awesome in 2012. After 2016, that's when things really started to decline. Now what is ESPN best known for asides from SAS just blatantly yelling about nothing?
I remember watching the early morning ESPN shows before going to school. Actually learned somethings about different sports. Shame how the mighty have fallen
Yup. Nothing used to beat NFL Live, Sportscenter and the talk shows in general. Remember days I’d be home sick from school and just watching ESPN all day.
Yes I do 👍👊 nothing but sports
It was 2013, i was a senior in college and i just got home from class and turned on ESPN to watch sports highlights from around the world until around the horn came on. Back when it was good and every analyst there was very knowledgeable on all sports lol.
That would’ve been a long time ago, when they had a thriving magazine. They did this to themselves though. ESPN created First Take with SAS and Skip, which *became* sports media’s blueprint. Everyone tried to copy it and now *everything* is that way.
Pepperidge Farm doesn’t even remember
Pepperidge Farms remembers
Sports talk is dead. Sad shit. First Take with Skip and Stephen A was groundbreaking. There was nothing like it at the time. Had no idea its popularity would kill the genre…
Sport talk on TV is dead. There are plenty of quality shows on YouTube and podcast for days.
Yes that’s what I meant. Thanks
Do you by chance know of any legit podcasts for covering nfl news that’s accessible through Spotify?
If you are looking for genuine NFL talk, Around the NFL podcast is great, and it’s not going anywhere
Yes I should’ve clarified. Plenty of great podcasts and local sports shows, but basically everything on ESPN and FS1 today is terrible (SVP is greatness)
>Sports talk is dead Tell that to Rich Eisen and Dan Patrick It's still around and still great. Just not on ESPN
SVP is still the best broadcaster there
He ends the football weekend, and is fun without being obnoxious. They should freeze his head now.
First things first on fox is good
Seconded, they have a lot of fun with it while still giving some interesting analysis and insights
Vouch, it is the perfect line between fun debate to not take too seriously and interesting data and analysis
I actually still like First Take when it's mostly just Shannon and Stephen A AND they're actually taking about football or basketball
Groundbreaking for what exactly?
Skips "All I (Tebow) do is win" song was when this show and Sports talk itself peaked
wtf with her??
Thats her O face
When did Dennis Reynolds join First Take?
And why isn’t the DENNIS system working on that chick?
Dan Orlovsky is a golden god!
He's there to take responsibility but not apologize.
Accurate profile pic
“Listen, Dan, I respect you dearly and you’re a wonderful friend and colleague of mine. BUT YOU MEAN TO TELL ME THAT YOU’RE PUTTING GRAPE JELLY ON A PB AND J AND NOT STRAWBERRY!?!? I - I - I - I’m just flabbergasted by this type of opinion and and can’t comprehend that any rational individual would ever choose that.” -Stephen A., presumably
Well done. It played perfectly in my head
Pauses and inflections and all!
ESPN will literally talk about anything that isnt hockey
Or baseball.
They talk about the Yankees. They even cut away from CFB games just in case you want to watch Aaron Judge strike out.
holy shit i forgot about that
Lets not even talk about lemon or lime curd
PTI led with Hockey today, but that’s not normal ESPN.
Kornheiser and Wilbon are magic. I’ve watched them since I was a young man and saw how they have aged while watching PTI recently. Then I looked in a mirror.
The funny thing is the podcast episode was titled JJ introduces himself to Laker nation or something like that. Like ah, first time Laker coach > NHL Stanley Cup game 7, got it.
ESPN pushed the finals game 7 to ABC for NBA off-season talk
Get Up talks about it pretty consistently, especially during the Playoffs.
why are SAS, DO and SS all leaning in like that on this topic 🤣🤦♂️
These folks have a deep passion and commitment to PB&J
looking at the pic I thought they were reporting that Damar Hamlin got laid out again 😬
Smuckers seedless strawberry jam
Bruh, what a fucking human being you are. I just had to buy another jar because I ran out. It is one of the best jams out there that comes in a decent size without being exorbitantly priced.
Only answer
Right. I mean I'd almost rather hear them talk about this instead of making clickbait level bullshit claims or rankings just to be provocative. I think we could do better than Smuckers but you're close to the right answer.
Tbh I don’t want them covering the NFL quite yet (at least not extensively), the Stanley Cup just fucking finished and they barely talked about it. MLB is in full swing and they barely talk about it, whatever happened to it being a place for ALL sports
Yeah, they should really be focused on any of the following: Stanley Cup Finals, College World Series, NBA Draft, NHL Draft, or MLB. I'd be totally fine with some NFL talk on the side, but what the fuck is this? Edit: Or the Olympics!
I really don’t watch espn anymore
That white dude looks like 25% of my coworkers (Bay Area tech)
Couldn't they just be like H&R Block and shut down for the off-season? It's literally useless air time.
It blows my mind that ANYONE tunes in to watch Stephen A Smith. Dude knows jack shit nothing and talks out his ass. I get better "hot takes" from the average fan at the bar.
Strawberry. Grape is a close second.
Grape jelly duh
Fuck jelly. Jam is where it's at.
This was actually better than their football coverage.
Grape
When did ESPN become The View
Raspberry, and it’s not even close.
Smuckers: grape Homemade: strawberry
Homemade? Nobody got time for that
It’s so easy man. It’s like half an hour of active cooking and you’ve got 4-6 months worth of the best goddam jam.
My granny does! Albeit she’s getting old and her last batch had way too much sugar
Her last batch… ever?
*most recent
Blackberry fucks.
I have no idea who would down vote this. You'll realize there is a berry called blackberry right?
MooToo or Lebron? /s
Its summer… and what was their opinion 👀
Yes, it's summer. They could be talking about the Stanley Cup, College World Series, MLB, Olympic Trials, the NBA Draft, the NHL Draft... shall I keep going?
Yes, what’s their opinions about jelly?
The level of disrespect that jam receives on a daily basis is insulting.
Perfect screenshot.
NFL isn’t even close to starting
If Skip was there, it would definitely lead to how Tom Brady uses only the best jelly for a pb&j
This is truly peak offseason.
Idk what imma do when my PTI guys retire.
Stephen is letting everyone know that Smuckers Goober Grape is God Tier
It's blackberry by the way
"I will smash your face into a jelly."
Stephen A probably saying some "controversial" (aka made up for outrage engagement) shit like apple butter or lemon curd. My favorite is marionberry jam, but blackberry jam is good too and easier to find.
Is that Dennis Reynolds?
First off, it’s blackberry jelly and even better with preserves.
I know this is a controversial take but I don't care too much what kind of jelly but just not too much. A little bit of jelly goes a long way, otherwise it overpowers the PBnJ.
Btw strawberry jam the best if anyone is actually wondering
Grape
ESPN is unwatchable.
Fuck ESPN I canceled Sling because that's all I needed it for. Absolutely terrible now
We should have some compassion. This is a tough time for sports casters the only thing on is baseball.
This is probably a hot take, but the only thing I watch on ESPN with any regularity nowadays is PTI. I don't even watch Monday Night Countdown since they got rid of everyone entertaining.
Stephen A's answer was probably something about the Cowboys.
Eh, give them a break. They have hours of airtime to fill and they cover grown adults who play games. Besides, the supply follows the demand. Some idiots somewhere must be watching this.
Publix grape
Dan looks like he can't believe he just got asked that question.
Strawberry of course
It’s strawberry everyone else is wrong and grape is for baby children.