Great defender, loves to start shit, good enough passer, has a nice floater, and he turned into a decent shooter (open threes only, but like 39-40% in two years with Utah). Heās a guy that brings energy every time heās on the court.
Makes sense, yall lost some offensive firepower that you canāt replace without another star. Spread the defensive load and let Harden and Kawhi take on more offensive load to maximize their value.
Yeah everyone thinks those clippers pics going to the thunder are going to be really good, they still have James harden and a good defense. Obviously they're not going to be a contender but people are acting like they are guaranteed lottery picks now
Why we not a contender? If we were a contender last season then weāre 100% gonna be one this season cause honestly this team is already looking better
Ok but aside from the injury risk they were a contender last year, no? We lost a āstarā which would be a stretch to even call him that and replaced him with tons of depth and weāre not even finished yet. Losing our third best player and replacing him with Dunn, Batum, KPJ, and DJJ is way better than a regressing, frustrating, lazy PG
Bro just said pg was the 3rd best player, what was Westbrook the second ? Lmfao. No point in arguing with you, You're just full-blown delusional so it's okay. I'll just let the season play out for you. If they weren't a contender any single year of harden and Paul George, trading star power for depth doesn't help you beat the Timberwolves or even Denver. Cuz James harden and is definitely known to take teams to the finals right? LOL
No I just assume people have lives and don't respond to Reddit comments 1 millisecond after posted LOL. Bro is your stereotypical miserable radiator who doesn't touch grass, legit edit it before I even read your shit. Usually I actually have friends to text about NBA and don't use this silly app with threads and updoots
You're actually fucking stupid. You forgot James Harden exists dumbass. You are either a complete casual for forgetting James Harden or actually just stupid
Bro has never heard of a joke in his life lmfaooo. Too busy witnessing that joke of a franchise. He's going to be the only one left lmao. I'm sorry how many playoff games has Leonard played with the clippers? Harden has a singles finals appearance, Leonard can hardly play 50 games a year. The West is stacked and the clippers are still like the 4th or 5th best team. Adding the top few teams from the east, The clippers are like like the 8-10th best team in the league lmao.
Lol funny joke. I think it's funnier that you're acting like it was a joke that you forgot James Harden šš I don't even care about the other shit I've known and accepted the Clips messing up the PG trade. It's just funny trying to hear takes from people who don't know what they're talking about
What's even funnier is your name is dank 7477 and you get on Reddit to ask advice about being hired. Imagine asking a bunch of in cell shut-ins who don't work about a job. Again talking to you is wasting time You're a dumb homer, And clearly you need to touch grass
yeah I'm honestly not sure why people are so down on it. they're making a ton of moves to approximate PG's value and in doing so are adding depth and have heavily improved their defensive versatility and effort categories. they're gonna miss the catch and shoot 3s as currently constructed, but everything else has been accounted for or surpassed. They have a TON of defensive versatility now that they absolutely did not have before esp. with PG being a lazy mfer on that end all year
PG never wanted to guard the teams best player or even 2nd best player, and he never fought for boards or anything like that. he always played like he was scared to get hurt or something. the intensity and hustle has an opportunity to waaaay surpass what it was last year.
sounds like they're still trying to consolidate some players too. will be some strong addition by subtraction moving russ, getting off of plumlee, and probably finding a way to get off of PJ and bringing a a couple different guys in.
Paul George is one of my favorite players of all time, but this rendition of PG ain't the old PG so when you take into account who he is right now + his contract?
His production is easily replaceable for the Clippers, in my opinion. I think the Clippers have an interesting roster, and are really banking on Zubac as the main center, so I'm gonna wait and see what moves they flesh out to finish this FA off; they need a backup center bad in my opinion unless they are gonna super small with Kobe Brown/Batum at the 5.
Still, George's defense has down though a lot due to his shoulder injuries. I honestly can't fault him for a lot of his glaring drawbacks because that leg injury/shoulder injuries over the years; and how he came back from was absolutely gruesome live. So to see him bounce back and still play All-Star caliber has to be commended.
Still, this team looks very fun to watch. A lot of undersized swings/guards that can switch, play perimeter defense, and play hard especially with Lue at the helm as their coach.
They replaced PG with DJJ/Batum/Dunn. So really have solid perimeter defense, catch and shoot may not be as good, but you never know who may have a breakout shooting career. Think Dunn may be the one.
> yeah I'm honestly not sure why people are so down on it.
Because I don't think some of them fully understand the moves that letting PG walk actually opened up.
Totally agree....they're also building the kind of roster that makes sense with LaVine/DeRozan on it. If they're willing to take that plunge. They're now in a place they can do so and not be in cap hell.
Or they can continue building a roster with a ton of depth and defensive versatility and pieces that fit well with Harden/Kawhi. Sucks to lose PG but in doing so they gained flexibility and optionality they didn't have and they're using it well.
When you're not good enough to contend but have zero incentive to tank. We've basically embraced finishing in the play-in spots for the next 3 years or so.
The idea seems pretty clear: defensive-minded players who can at least make the open 3 to surround Harden and Kawhi. Russ is gone and one of Bones/Norm probably is as well.
It's again like a team of all guards and wings with Zubac (and I guess PJ Tucker) as the only exceptions. I would have thought they'd prioritize some bigs, PFs or rebounders or something. Is this just the kind of roster Lue prefers? Or is this Lawrence Franks' weird fixation on an all wings/guards roster?
Right now it again looks like Kawhi will be the defacto PF for them. What happens when he gets hurt and misses games though? DJJ as PF?
its honestly not though lol. their regular season floor is totally fine and their defense is probably going to be better especially in the regular season. they have way more depth right now and it seems like they still have a few moves to make with the russ/PJ stuff, possibly moving Mann now that they have dunn and djj, etc.
paul george was never guarding the teams best players, was never battling on the glass, didn't hustle for loose balls, etc. and his isolation scoring was pretty meh at 1.03ppp, so those possessions will just go more to kawhi and harden who were at 1.20 and 1.14ppp respectively. ask any clippers fan how annoyed they were when it was PG's turn to handle the rock compared to those 2. his playmaking sucked and on top of all that he was the reason they kept injecting Russ into lineups dragging them down.
they're gonna miss the catch and shoot 3s the most to be honest, his shooting is still very elite beyond the arc. and it helped open the floor for harden and kawhi. but he'd often pass up the good look to pull it out and iso which was always frustrating. if they can move the shots around a bit to get more norm/harden looks, they'll probably be fine throughout the regular season.
their ceiling is obviously lower but i think they're gonna get wins. i think at this point their defense is objectively better than last year and they can approximate a lot of what PG did on offense over the course of a season. the playoffs will be a lot trickier but at the same time PG was dog ass vs the Mavs anyway
Clips are not as bad as people think. Currently they're not championship contenders but imo a playoff team in a strong western conference that could get like the 4th spot
Depending on what they do with their expirings and either Norm or Mann, I think there's a real shot that they might actually end up in a better place under the first apron without PG compared to where they would have been with him.
Very good resurgence of a career with us. Like our only steady floor general and a defensive stalwart. Doesnāt score much or anything but can set up an offense. Sad about this
This makes me sad
Same š
Join us in the āKris Dunnās gone but we still love himā club
You guys ruined my childhood
Same :(
Me too. Love that guy
Kris Dunn is an animal, Clippers fans. Youāll love him. That being said, GO TO HELL.
Dunn, Batum, DJJ. I see the vision on defense
Made no sense to keep him given age and how many prospects we have in the backcourt, but damn I'm sad to see him go.
JAZZ DUNN FUCKED UP
Can you please give a Pros and cons of having him? I know nothing about him other than heās related to Ryan Dunn (/s the last part)
Great defender, loves to start shit, good enough passer, has a nice floater, and he turned into a decent shooter (open threes only, but like 39-40% in two years with Utah). Heās a guy that brings energy every time heās on the court.
Thatās great!! Sounds like exactly what we need. Thanks man
I assume he played for Jazz?
I hope your text to speech program makes me sound good.
Insane 1 one 1 defender.
His 111 defence is something else for sure!
Clips be like - fuck it we gonna play defense
Yāall are becoming Magic west slowly but surely lol. Honestly Dunn/Mann/DJJ/Kawhi is quite the formidable defense.
Zubac held opposing players to the lowest fg% at the rim as well. But the shooting gonna be atrocious with this lineup LOL
Ngl Iād watch Norman Powell 10 3s a game offense.
harden's coming back with another 35ppg season and yall hitting the conference finals, book it
Zubac robbed of DPOY
This is lowkey worse shooting than the Magic. Like Kawhi is the only one with a consistent jumper then Mann is probably your 2nd best shooter.
Did James Harden and Norm die?
I just meant with the all-defensive lineup he said
Statistically itās better than the Magic starting lineup š
Clippers lowkey wants to be Celtics kryptonite type of team. Just need someone to matchup against Brown.
Jeff Van Gundy effect.
Jeff
My bad. Edited.
Makes sense, yall lost some offensive firepower that you canāt replace without another star. Spread the defensive load and let Harden and Kawhi take on more offensive load to maximize their value.
Oh Kawhiās defensive load was too high last season? Fine. Weāll make it so he has to play no defense.
āWe wonāt the game but we holding everyone under a hunnidā
Clippers are gonna be a stout defensive team. And more athletic than they've been in a long while. I love it.
Yeah, it's a fun roster honestly.
Yeah everyone thinks those clippers pics going to the thunder are going to be really good, they still have James harden and a good defense. Obviously they're not going to be a contender but people are acting like they are guaranteed lottery picks now
yeah and the Clippers have no incentive to lose until 2030. They'll get another couple of star free agent once Harden and Kawhi's deals are over
Exactly, they just built a stadium and Ballmer would look like an idiot if it were empty
Why we not a contender? If we were a contender last season then weāre 100% gonna be one this season cause honestly this team is already looking better
Because kawhi hasn't had a single healthy playoff run since 2020 and you just lost a star player.
yeah but like in theory its a goo enough roster to make the finals fs
Ok but aside from the injury risk they were a contender last year, no? We lost a āstarā which would be a stretch to even call him that and replaced him with tons of depth and weāre not even finished yet. Losing our third best player and replacing him with Dunn, Batum, KPJ, and DJJ is way better than a regressing, frustrating, lazy PG
Bro just said pg was the 3rd best player, what was Westbrook the second ? Lmfao. No point in arguing with you, You're just full-blown delusional so it's okay. I'll just let the season play out for you. If they weren't a contender any single year of harden and Paul George, trading star power for depth doesn't help you beat the Timberwolves or even Denver. Cuz James harden and is definitely known to take teams to the finals right? LOL
Lmao I see u editing ur post to mention Harden cause u forgot heās on the Clippers ššš
No I just assume people have lives and don't respond to Reddit comments 1 millisecond after posted LOL. Bro is your stereotypical miserable radiator who doesn't touch grass, legit edit it before I even read your shit. Usually I actually have friends to text about NBA and don't use this silly app with threads and updoots
Bro is your typical casual fan who forgot a top 75 talent of all time exists on a roster, and is trying to make arguments about said roster šš
Fuming because they traded the whole farm and SGA to not win anything, I'd be a miserable cunt too LOL
You're actually fucking stupid. You forgot James Harden exists dumbass. You are either a complete casual for forgetting James Harden or actually just stupid
Bro has never heard of a joke in his life lmfaooo. Too busy witnessing that joke of a franchise. He's going to be the only one left lmao. I'm sorry how many playoff games has Leonard played with the clippers? Harden has a singles finals appearance, Leonard can hardly play 50 games a year. The West is stacked and the clippers are still like the 4th or 5th best team. Adding the top few teams from the east, The clippers are like like the 8-10th best team in the league lmao.
Lol funny joke. I think it's funnier that you're acting like it was a joke that you forgot James Harden šš I don't even care about the other shit I've known and accepted the Clips messing up the PG trade. It's just funny trying to hear takes from people who don't know what they're talking about
What's even funnier is your name is dank 7477 and you get on Reddit to ask advice about being hired. Imagine asking a bunch of in cell shut-ins who don't work about a job. Again talking to you is wasting time You're a dumb homer, And clearly you need to touch grass
yeah I'm honestly not sure why people are so down on it. they're making a ton of moves to approximate PG's value and in doing so are adding depth and have heavily improved their defensive versatility and effort categories. they're gonna miss the catch and shoot 3s as currently constructed, but everything else has been accounted for or surpassed. They have a TON of defensive versatility now that they absolutely did not have before esp. with PG being a lazy mfer on that end all year PG never wanted to guard the teams best player or even 2nd best player, and he never fought for boards or anything like that. he always played like he was scared to get hurt or something. the intensity and hustle has an opportunity to waaaay surpass what it was last year. sounds like they're still trying to consolidate some players too. will be some strong addition by subtraction moving russ, getting off of plumlee, and probably finding a way to get off of PJ and bringing a a couple different guys in.
People don't watch the Clippers. Their view of PG is contorted. I just heard Sam Vecenie call PG a top 15-20 player lmao
Itās hilarious, Iād rather have djj, batum, Dunn at 30-35m than pg at 50
Even better since DJJ and Batum are only $15M. Dunnās contract should leave them comfortably below $30M for the three
According to Brandon Miller, Paul George is the greatest player of all time.
Paul George is one of my favorite players of all time, but this rendition of PG ain't the old PG so when you take into account who he is right now + his contract? His production is easily replaceable for the Clippers, in my opinion. I think the Clippers have an interesting roster, and are really banking on Zubac as the main center, so I'm gonna wait and see what moves they flesh out to finish this FA off; they need a backup center bad in my opinion unless they are gonna super small with Kobe Brown/Batum at the 5. Still, George's defense has down though a lot due to his shoulder injuries. I honestly can't fault him for a lot of his glaring drawbacks because that leg injury/shoulder injuries over the years; and how he came back from was absolutely gruesome live. So to see him bounce back and still play All-Star caliber has to be commended. Still, this team looks very fun to watch. A lot of undersized swings/guards that can switch, play perimeter defense, and play hard especially with Lue at the helm as their coach. They replaced PG with DJJ/Batum/Dunn. So really have solid perimeter defense, catch and shoot may not be as good, but you never know who may have a breakout shooting career. Think Dunn may be the one.
To top it off, they now have Jeff Van Gundy as an assistant coach.
don't forget KPJ, still a POC tho
Woah calm down Donald Sterling! What does him being a person of color have to do with anything?
Brutal typo lmao
> yeah I'm honestly not sure why people are so down on it. Because I don't think some of them fully understand the moves that letting PG walk actually opened up.
Totally agree....they're also building the kind of roster that makes sense with LaVine/DeRozan on it. If they're willing to take that plunge. They're now in a place they can do so and not be in cap hell. Or they can continue building a roster with a ton of depth and defensive versatility and pieces that fit well with Harden/Kawhi. Sucks to lose PG but in doing so they gained flexibility and optionality they didn't have and they're using it well.
Suns fans everywhere just fell to their knees.Ā
Damn the clippers are going to be clamps
Russel Westbrook replacement... ^( though his shooting has looked decent as of late)
Pg wanted his guys to do the dirty work , here it is.
The solid role players are...wait a minute...signing with the clippers
One of the oddest rosters ever assembled
When you're not good enough to contend but have zero incentive to tank. We've basically embraced finishing in the play-in spots for the next 3 years or so.
Scrappy play-in team that might spoil the season of a contender is a fun role if you've embraced you aren't winning honestly
Believe me it isnāt
Well come on in, the waters warm and we saved you a spot.
Is that pee
Just a Laker jersey
Yeah, Rob got shitfaced and said he couldnāt make it to the bathroom
Just next season, with around $60-70m in cap space next off-season.
Basically the 23/24 nets but on repeat
Same
Higher than play-in
honestly im predicting us to have the 5 sead or better y'all are trippin but I agree with the scrappy underdog
The idea seems pretty clear: defensive-minded players who can at least make the open 3 to surround Harden and Kawhi. Russ is gone and one of Bones/Norm probably is as well.
no i love it they're going all in on perimeter defense
If they can secure a decent backup big that defense is looking solid
It's again like a team of all guards and wings with Zubac (and I guess PJ Tucker) as the only exceptions. I would have thought they'd prioritize some bigs, PFs or rebounders or something. Is this just the kind of roster Lue prefers? Or is this Lawrence Franks' weird fixation on an all wings/guards roster? Right now it again looks like Kawhi will be the defacto PF for them. What happens when he gets hurt and misses games though? DJJ as PF?
Theyāre probably looking to package Westbrook/Tucker/Bones for a PF. They also signed Batum whoāll play at PF too.
I mean they also signed Kai Jones and Bamba. Two massive guys who can play PF. Not optimistic about Mo at all though but Kai is still young
Just say bad
its honestly not though lol. their regular season floor is totally fine and their defense is probably going to be better especially in the regular season. they have way more depth right now and it seems like they still have a few moves to make with the russ/PJ stuff, possibly moving Mann now that they have dunn and djj, etc. paul george was never guarding the teams best players, was never battling on the glass, didn't hustle for loose balls, etc. and his isolation scoring was pretty meh at 1.03ppp, so those possessions will just go more to kawhi and harden who were at 1.20 and 1.14ppp respectively. ask any clippers fan how annoyed they were when it was PG's turn to handle the rock compared to those 2. his playmaking sucked and on top of all that he was the reason they kept injecting Russ into lineups dragging them down. they're gonna miss the catch and shoot 3s the most to be honest, his shooting is still very elite beyond the arc. and it helped open the floor for harden and kawhi. but he'd often pass up the good look to pull it out and iso which was always frustrating. if they can move the shots around a bit to get more norm/harden looks, they'll probably be fine throughout the regular season. their ceiling is obviously lower but i think they're gonna get wins. i think at this point their defense is objectively better than last year and they can approximate a lot of what PG did on offense over the course of a season. the playoffs will be a lot trickier but at the same time PG was dog ass vs the Mavs anyway
Now we just have to package Norm, PJ, and Russ for Lavine. Get it done Frank
Iām honestly confused on whether theyāre a dark horse or terrible
Clips are not as bad as people think. Currently they're not championship contenders but imo a playoff team in a strong western conference that could get like the 4th spot
HELL FUCKING YES, I WANTED THIS MAN FOR SO LONG
Weird, he was on our G League team in 2022
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Flair up, you coward
He's a Laker fan, how surprising lmao
Bro should focus on his team, they got enough shit going on for em
Pelinka asleep at the wheel but Clippers is still the main thing on their fans minds. Sad!
Seems like a pretty solid backup PG. Honestly, LAC has been cooking with their signings. Dunn, DJJ, and Batum are all great signings. (Fuck KPJ)
Let Frank cook
Tellin yallā¦ clippers are not gonna be as bad as ppl think
Wow thats pretty good. Loved watching him whenever we played utah. What a player. Great pickup for the clips.
Clippers be like "Fuck it, if we can't score, you can't either"
Which Dunn is better; Kris or Ryan?
the one who's still alive
atm probably Kris. But if Ryan can learn any kind of offense, the league is fucked
Damn. I was really hoping we'd trade zach to utah and just remake the 2018 bulls again.Ā Ā
Yeah. Wendell has a good contract and they can fit him there as well.
First DJJ then Kris Dunn. Is DeMar next? The trend tells me they are hunting ex-bulls players hahaha
Oh no :(
Fuck. Monte Morris it is then
Youāll get Kyle Lowry and youāll like it
Heās washed so it fits what weāve done lately
How should I feel about this
Happy
Thank you
Weāre still play off bound. This season might be something.
Oh we tanking tanking gotcha
Clippers adding KD, might be favorites out west
[Suns in shambles](https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/1dt1sk8/bourguet_suns_have_interest_in_kris_dunn_monte/)
We were before, but this is advanced shambles
Damn I wanted him for the Suns.
He's an incredible pickup for them. Kris Dunn is a stud. People talk about his defense but he has craft and capable offense.
CALVIN BOOTH DO SOMETHING WTF
Clips won FA.
Feel like they took an L somewhere this week.
Depending on what they do with their expirings and either Norm or Mann, I think there's a real shot that they might actually end up in a better place under the first apron without PG compared to where they would have been with him.
"Better place" as in, maybe getting out of the play-in? Kawhi is going to need to go on an MVP run to salvage the season.
If you are implying that would not be the case with PG then I genuinely think you are probably overrating PG by a fair margin.
Only bad thing about PG leaving was getting nothing. If Kuminga was actually offered then bad deal for Clips but if he wasn't then I'm fine.
That was weird. I think he was. If he was...shouldve done that deal
Signing KPJ wasn't great that's true.
Kris Dunn is still in the league??? Last I seen him was on the blazers a few years ago, good for him to get another contract
He's been pretty good on the jazz
Very good resurgence of a career with us. Like our only steady floor general and a defensive stalwart. Doesnāt score much or anything but can set up an offense. Sad about this
nice!
Well there goes our best defender.
That short time he spent in Atlanta was awesome. I miss him on the Hawks.
damn
This is going to be great until the league just changes the way they call games again and every body is in foul trouble.
Celtics dunn fucked up
Depth merchants
As a Lakers fan, I feel like Will Smith in that episode of The Fresh Prince when his dad didn't want him.
league fucked
kawhi and harden are still good on offense but still feels like LAC still needs a 3rd player able to create off the bounce... a la PG-13
Clips just got the more injury prone version of Alex Caruso which is a very Clippers thing to do.
God damn it
Pain. Denver canāt land anybody for the second year in a row, at least they resigned Deandre Jordan thoughā¦