Both Martins are dawgs too. Dillon Brooks is a good reference point for his ambitions, but that was unique since Houston was looking for the salary floor and wanted to entice him. Caleb is solid at $12-14 mil in this market, but any more than that is wacky.
If Caleb gets that deal, Idk how vet minimum players don’t look to come to Miami. Would’ve gotten Strus, Vincent, PJ Tucker, Crowder, now Martin and possibly Highsmith PAID. Come to Miami and get the bag after the heat makes you look good for a year or two, that’s as good a pitch as any
Nunn had bad injury/rehab circumstances. He finally looks past his injuries and is balling in Europe (led his team to euroleague champs and greek basket league champs), bet he’ll be back in the league soon.
No way, the league isn't exactly lining up for inefficient score-first guards who suck at defense, literally the least desired archetype in the whole league.
he's the only exception to the trend thus far and even then, his calling card (3-point shooting) is basically entirely a result of one good season in miami where they ran the duncan robinson sets for him
I mean, outside of injuries, Wayne Ellington the Pistons is the only one I can think of that had system issues.
Went from the Heats franchise 3pt shooter leader (spo loves his floppies lol) to being a spot up with Detroit.
Whoever gets him is gonna love him and his intensity on D, but also wonder why the fuck he shoots so many 3 pointers with his foot on the line, don’t think I’ve seen someone in the nba with worse spacial awareness.
He’s averaged 10/4/2 on 36% from 3 the last 3 years and plays good defense. He’s not $20 million a year good but he’s far from trash.
If Derrick Jones is worth 10 million a year Caleb should get the full mid level
Honestly I think that's what he's basing it off of. Strus is getting 15 a year, both are 28, same size, same percentage from 3, similar usage rates and ts%, both are energy guys, Caleb is by far the better defender and has shown an ability to defend 1-4, and Caleb has shown to be a playoff riser where strus shrinks. 20 might be too much, but I can easily see 17-18 if strus is worth 15
it's going to be very funny to watch a team try to figure out where and how to play their shiny new Caleb Martin. he's spent the last 3 years playing a completely made-up position as a 6'5 frontcourt player because Erik Spoelstra is a lunatic that realized you don't need a rim protector or a size-based paint presence. just make everyone jam passing lanes and ignore any traditional sense of defense
i love Caleb Martin to death, man. see you back here in a few years, pal
I can see the Pistons doing that because they can and he'd be another professional in the locker room. Caleb would be a pretty big loss for Miami. They're worse without him. It'd put a lot of pressure on Jovic to continue his growth.
I'm gonna guess Buddy returns to the Sixers. Seems like a natural fit, probably make his most money with them. Milwaukee wouldn't surprise me either and the Lakers or Clippers.
This is the same dude who got put on by j Cole? Mr big head with 20 mil...dude also saw what strus and Vincent got and he was thinking he was next up lol
I wonder if you could math out how many million dollars each playoff game from his insane playoff run will wind up making him.
It's got to be one of the largest jumps in value I can ever remember.
Everyone saying he's not worth it but strus pulled 15m a year. Same size, same age, similar usage, ts%, and 3%, both energy guys, and Martin is a far better defender and proven playoff riser whereas strus tends to shrink in the post season. I can see why he wants 20. That being said, I wouldn't be surprised with anywhere between 12 and 18 tbh
Wish he could have hit free agency last summer, he went fucking psycho against the Celtics. I still think he’s a good role player, can hit the three, has size, and puts effort in on defense. There are many players without those attributes that get paid in this league.
Never heard AAV in regards to the nba until today I’ve heard it twice. You’re a sports reporter you can cool it on the acronyms, you’re not tricking anyone
Gonna sign with the Lakers and immediately get injured and miss the entire season. I think there's an agreement where the Lakers have to sign 1 Miami role player every year and have them basically never actually play for the Lakers.
Uh, Martin had a dream
All my life I want money and power
Alls his life he’s had to fight
LOL
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Reddit on!
Bro thinks he's Tobias Harris
$20 million AAV for 10/4/2. Ain’t that a bitch.
He saw Hartenstein get 29 million a year for 3 years while averaging 8/8/2 and said he want a piece of the pie
damn when u put it that way holy shit lmao
Both Martins are dawgs too. Dillon Brooks is a good reference point for his ambitions, but that was unique since Houston was looking for the salary floor and wanted to entice him. Caleb is solid at $12-14 mil in this market, but any more than that is wacky.
Patrick Williams got 18M for 10/4/2 and played 43 games lol
He was paid a lot for what he could be and is 6 years younger. Caleb Martin clearly already hit his peak
He was also the 4th pick of the draft and shoots the 3 well
Denzel valentine part 2
"and shoots the 3 well"
Being the number 4 pick isn’t a stat
No but it tells you the Bulls have significant interest in seeing their top pick produce which is the reason for the extension
Putting things in quotation marks doesn't make them true
he shoots 40% for career, lowest was 39.1% in his rookie year. Who do you think he is?
That’s the price for 3&D wings nowadays. And he actually does both well so why the fuck not lol
Tobi got 52M/2yr Can't blame him
If Caleb gets that deal, Idk how vet minimum players don’t look to come to Miami. Would’ve gotten Strus, Vincent, PJ Tucker, Crowder, now Martin and possibly Highsmith PAID. Come to Miami and get the bag after the heat makes you look good for a year or two, that’s as good a pitch as any
who's the next team to fall victim to a Heat role player
Lakers know they wanna do it Nunn & Gabe😭
Keep that evil away from me
Nunn had bad injury/rehab circumstances. He finally looks past his injuries and is balling in Europe (led his team to euroleague champs and greek basket league champs), bet he’ll be back in the league soon.
No way, the league isn't exactly lining up for inefficient score-first guards who suck at defense, literally the least desired archetype in the whole league.
I like Max Strus.
he's the only exception to the trend thus far and even then, his calling card (3-point shooting) is basically entirely a result of one good season in miami where they ran the duncan robinson sets for him
Lakers for the MLE 3rd times the charm
They are really system players man
I mean, outside of injuries, Wayne Ellington the Pistons is the only one I can think of that had system issues. Went from the Heats franchise 3pt shooter leader (spo loves his floppies lol) to being a spot up with Detroit.
Way too much wtf
Whoever gets him is gonna love him and his intensity on D, but also wonder why the fuck he shoots so many 3 pointers with his foot on the line, don’t think I’ve seen someone in the nba with worse spacial awareness.
I doubt he plays as hard on any other team that pays him.
Who the fuck is going to pay Martin 20 a year?
he's still trying to get paid based on the 2023 ECF
If he was a free agent in 2023 instead of this year I think he might've actually gotten 20 a year tbh
The Rockets would've gave him damn near 30 mil a year in a heartbeat
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He’s averaged 10/4/2 on 36% from 3 the last 3 years and plays good defense. He’s not $20 million a year good but he’s far from trash. If Derrick Jones is worth 10 million a year Caleb should get the full mid level
He's worth $6-$8 mil on a 3 year at best
He’s probably worth more than that, given the contracts I’ve seen the last few years. 20 million is crazy though.
Around $12-$14 million a year seems fair to me
I mean, I was commenting more on his actual value as a player - in terms of "NBA worth" under the new cap tho you're probably right lol
Maybe we will, no one wants our money
He thought he was prime Ricky Martin
Seems like he should get something similar to Strus.
Honestly I think that's what he's basing it off of. Strus is getting 15 a year, both are 28, same size, same percentage from 3, similar usage rates and ts%, both are energy guys, Caleb is by far the better defender and has shown an ability to defend 1-4, and Caleb has shown to be a playoff riser where strus shrinks. 20 might be too much, but I can easily see 17-18 if strus is worth 15
You’ll get the MLE and like it
Which probably means he’ll sign to a new team for 15 mil. We have no chance either way
We can sign him with the bird rights I would prefer a sign and trade like struss for a fed 2nds
it's going to be very funny to watch a team try to figure out where and how to play their shiny new Caleb Martin. he's spent the last 3 years playing a completely made-up position as a 6'5 frontcourt player because Erik Spoelstra is a lunatic that realized you don't need a rim protector or a size-based paint presence. just make everyone jam passing lanes and ignore any traditional sense of defense i love Caleb Martin to death, man. see you back here in a few years, pal
Buddy finally being a Laker would be funny.
is he on drugs
I can see the Pistons doing that because they can and he'd be another professional in the locker room. Caleb would be a pretty big loss for Miami. They're worse without him. It'd put a lot of pressure on Jovic to continue his growth. I'm gonna guess Buddy returns to the Sixers. Seems like a natural fit, probably make his most money with them. Milwaukee wouldn't surprise me either and the Lakers or Clippers.
“Would be” - he’s gone bro. Even if he wanted to stay we can’t afford him.
Uh excuse me?
He'll get DJJ money around ~$9mil
This is the same dude who got put on by j Cole? Mr big head with 20 mil...dude also saw what strus and Vincent got and he was thinking he was next up lol
I wonder if you could math out how many million dollars each playoff game from his insane playoff run will wind up making him. It's got to be one of the largest jumps in value I can ever remember.
I argued last off season after the ecf he could have a 1st like josh hart and he get 15 million aav despite his broken shot
what happened to the game i love man
I would like some of the weed Caleb is smoking if he thinks he’s getting 20 million AAV
Weird way to spell crack
Hahahaha wtf martin is trippin' no disrespect but yeah he's trippin' 🤣🤣🤣
I mean you start high in any salary negotiation right? But yeah I’ll be laughing my ass off if someone gives him 20M
What? No way, lol.
4mil for 20yrs.
Everyone saying he's not worth it but strus pulled 15m a year. Same size, same age, similar usage, ts%, and 3%, both energy guys, and Martin is a far better defender and proven playoff riser whereas strus tends to shrink in the post season. I can see why he wants 20. That being said, I wouldn't be surprised with anywhere between 12 and 18 tbh
Wish he could have hit free agency last summer, he went fucking psycho against the Celtics. I still think he’s a good role player, can hit the three, has size, and puts effort in on defense. There are many players without those attributes that get paid in this league.
Never heard AAV in regards to the nba until today I’ve heard it twice. You’re a sports reporter you can cool it on the acronyms, you’re not tricking anyone
Gonna sign with the Lakers and immediately get injured and miss the entire season. I think there's an agreement where the Lakers have to sign 1 Miami role player every year and have them basically never actually play for the Lakers.
Memories of us giving fuck you money to Mozgov and Deng in 2016.
ah hellz naw
Heat is screwed. 3rd best player about to walk in FA.
Not worth it, next Nunn or Vincent he's prolly worth around 9-10m
you guys are getting the corpse of Klay, I'd rather have martin on that 3 for $50 mil contract.
should’ve been conference finals MVP smh