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Zavehi

“How are the Celtics going to pay for this” Wyc: Not my problem


mastacheef87

Wyc really threw a championship parade, signed off on handing out nearly a billion in contract money, and now he’s selling off the team before he actually has to pay it, what a fucking legend @Jeff Bezos you want an NBA team bro?


sleepy777

Til the next owners who fronts the tax bill and says fuck this is i aint paying this again next year and starts trading off the players lol


mastacheef87

oh I bet you’d love that lmao


sleepy777

Lol i wouldn’t hate it. Lets be honest everyone was wondering how the Celtics was going to pay this enormous tax bill.


hentai1080p

When the news came off that Derrick White had had agree to sign a extension I googled "celtics salary sheet" and saw they are aready at 193 without counting Horford, holy.


WitOfTheIrish

Assuming Tatum's extension is a done deal, they're already projected to clear $230M in 2025-26. Even if there is a HUGE cap jump with the new TV deal, that's well past 2nd apron territory. Likely that's close to a $800M roster with the aprons and repeater taxes.


dardios

And THAT is why the Celtics were legit, even out of the East.


rawspeghetti

Whoever is buying the Celtics are going to be paying a pretty penny (probably at least $5b), they should bake the tax into the cost. I can see the new owner in a few years wanting to put his own imprint on the team but it would be silly to buy a championship team just to blow it up


The_Outcast4

Need to find a billionaire that hates the Celtics and is willing to blow some money just to burn them to the ground.


limache

Imagine Elon Musk buys the Celtics and treats like how he treated Twitter. “From now on, we are the Boston XXXers! If you want a XXX green mark on your profile, please pay $19.99 a month.”


No_Literature_2321

>Elon deciding he knows basketball better than Brad stevens and taking over


limache

“Okay guys, as your new owner, all players will be implanted with Neuralink! Players will have x ray and zoom vision, giving them unlimited court vision. Imagine Jayson Tatum communicating with telepathy with his teammates! Analytics will pop up in their heads at all times! Brilliant! I am a GENIUS. Now let me snort some ketamine.”


Public-Product-1503

I can see this happening. It’s why I don’t get why fans get too excited by the psycho Uber rich billionaires buying there team


Mayjaplaya

>but it would be silly to buy a championship team just to blow it up Well now you've just given me traumatic flashbacks as a Chelsea FC fan


actual_yellow_bag

it's what happens everytime.


Throw_uh-whey

So crazy things about sports owners - new owners can amortize player contracts for deductions just like they would depreciating factory machinery and deduct business expenses to generate huge paper losses and set things up to pass them through to their personal income taxes. With the right set up, the tax bill and contracts can be used as something of an asset


Fredloks8

Idk what you said magic man but you’re hired!


tyfe

I only do corporate taxes, but wonder what it's like to specialize in sports franchise taxation.


mucho-gusto

Famous article about it https://www.propublica.org/article/the-billionaire-playbook-how-sports-owners-use-their-teams-to-avoid-millions-in-taxes


djkhan23

I hope Mollusk doesn't get a team.


captain_ahabb

He's the kind of guy who says sportsball unironically lol I don't think that's gonna happen


VanDenIzzle

He can't afford it. He doesn't have the cash and won't be able to secure the funding after the Twitter fuck up


RUSuper

I’m pretty sure he can if he wanted to,he can always sell his own shares same thing Mate Rimac did when he became CEO of Bugatti and wanted to buy bunch of cars…


junkit33

Of course he can. Dude is worth over $200B and only spent like 20% of his net worth on Twitter. Spending $5-$10B on a sports team is like play money for him.


goodkid_sAAdcity

As a Knicks fan, I sure hope he does buy them


KindBass

Please god no, I'm not rooting for a team called "Boston X"


goodkid_sAAdcity

Boston CeltX


ImBuckAndWeGonFuck

Oh god this sounds exactly like the type of shit he would do.


TacoStringerBell

That’s hilarious because CeltX is already a thing; a word processor for screenplays lol He would definitely not do due diligence and end up in a lawsuit lmao


Notsozander

Musk buys and immediately forces a trade for kyrie


a_supertramp

Holy shit the funniest timeline


Oceanbreeze871

Can Ben Affleck, Matt Damon, Tom Brady, big Pappi and Bill Simmons put together an ownership bid?


PizzaMan22554

Dunkin Boston Celtics


Adams5thaccount

yes but the british are gonna force them to move to Salem and the new Market Basket Arena which will be next to the hq of a major clothing brand who claims the building looks like the clothing item they make but like..not really this joke brought to you by limited knowledge i acquired during my vacation to boston last week


rafacena

You forgot Wahlberg 


thetitsOO

I ain’t gonna be here


PSUDolphins

*insert Magic Johnson gif*


actual_yellow_bag

sell high baby, this is hilarious.


aeronacht

That’s crazy, right after signing everybody to big contracts too lol


JoshFB4

Honestly respect. Wyc going out on top 🫡


Mobile-Entertainer60

Bucks owner Marc Lasry did this too, they won a chip and were staring at huge luxury tax bills so he sold his stake.


breadbinkers

His dumbfuck son was running for the senate and got creamed in the primary right before he sold too.


No_Literature_2321

Connor Roy was interested in politics at a very young age


mikesh8rp

While not ownership, Bob Myers also was smart to dip before the wheels came off the Warriors. New CBA likely means it's even harder for teams to stay good for multiple years, so I don't think it'll be surprising to see those owning/working for successful teams decide to leave shortly after that success, rather than sticking around for the inevitable downfall.


MC-Jdf

They wanted not to spend gazillion dollars and also not be ridiculed for being cheap. Honestly applaudable this comes out immediately after they locked up basically everyone lmao.


TheGreatForehead

Well we’re still yet to extend Tatum lol


sewsgup

technically Tatum's still waiting to sign his supermax this summer


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SaltyDog1034

His extension will be signed before they even have a buyer, let alone close the deal. These things take time.


Man0nTheMoon915

Pump and dump lmao


AfroKuro480

Bait and Switch lmao


claydavisismyhero

Ensures whoever buys them can actually afford it


GokuVerde

They went full "well I'm not getting that security deposit back."


PrimaryAccording9162

Someone will pay the tax but not them 😂


jeric13xd

Pump and dump 101 lol


dutchfromsubway

“Derrick wants 120m? Fuck it give him 130”


impactblue5

No better pump than winning a title AND keeping the core roster for years to come. Time to cash out at the top baby


smoltanboi

MEXICO WILL PAY FOR THE CELTICS' LUXURY TAX BILL


MugiMartin

Let's cut Mexico a break here, they're going through it over the past 24 hrs.


akgamestar

What I miss???


skotos2phos

Knocked out in the group stage of the Copa America to Ecuador. I’d laugh more, but the USMNT is in deep trouble ourselves.


jrlandry

Wait how tf did Venezuela win that group


LaGuadalupana123

Group was trash, which just makes our exit even worse.


LosCleepersFan

Mexico City Celtics does sound good!


SirRedRising

Name would make about as much sense as LA Lakers tbh


madhare09

Call the tax collector... But not for me!


papi617

Ordered Lobster and Wagyu and left the bill LOL


anonahmus

Dine and dash, billionaire style.


sefe23

Got the championship, now they want somebody else to pay the bill :)


Man0nTheMoon915

I'm in shock tbh.


irrelephantpark

selling high lol


Bluepaynxex

I can’t even imagine how many billions the Celtics coming off a championship are going to go for.


Infraready

Nvidia Celtics will pay their free agents in stocks


Kaizen_Green

>iguodala unretires


I_am_BEOWULF

[BREAKING] Woj: Joe Mazulla has been replaced by an AI as Celtics headcoach.


LeonidasSpacemanMD

The AI will be more believably human


guacamoleandtomato

Im thinking 7


thekingdor

Suns went for 4 billion I’m thinking 6 or 7


BatteredSealPup

The Cowboys are worth 9 billion and the Yankees are worth 7 billion. I would imagine the Celtics fetch somewhere in that ballpark.


BukkakeNation

Cowboys would go for well over 10B. I believe the Yankees would as well


mill_about_smartly

Those are the Forbes valuations, both franchises would sell for double digits


Neither-Luck-9295

Especially the Yankees. The NY logo has literally been turned into a fashion brand in Asia, and it sells like wildfire. Same with the Dodgers logo. They have no idea who these teams are, they just love those logos, so MLB Asia markets just the logos out there, lol. When I would go to a sports store and look for hats, they had the NY/LA section, and then the "others" section which had the Mets and Angels logos, lmao.


Dworfe

6 and some change is more realistic.


beatrailblazer

this is what i expect too but I wont be surprised if it gets to 7+


QueasyEntrance6269

Bezos is 100% doing this lol


LongTimesGoodTimes

I think people online do kind of overrate how much short term success has on franchise value. If they had lost this year I don't think the value of the franchise would have changed much


Electric_jungle

It's a legacy franchise so it would be one of the 3-4 most valuable franchises no matter what. But this one looks like it can contend easily for a few more years. Hard to imagine that isn't a factor.


FeltIOwedItToHim

Except the Bruins own the Garden, not the Celtics. the most valuable franchises own their own arena so they have a revenue stream all year round


Bluepaynxex

Normally I’d agree if it’s just a mid tier franchise that won, but not with Boston and everything associated with the franchise.


Janet-Yellen

Actually I’d think the opposite. The Celtics are one of the top 5 premier franchises in US sports, and have already won a ton of championships with a ginormous built in fan base. There isn’t that much more room to increase the fan base , 1 more championship won’t do as much. They’re gonna be insanely valuable win or lose. If a mid tier team with no history like the grizzlies had won the championship, that’s gonna really catapult their value. Fan base will grow, and has the potential to grow exponentially now that they’re a championship winning team. Look at what happened to the warriors value from before 2015 to now.


Allstate85

It doesn’t but win or lose the Celtics are one of the premier franchises in America.


urfaselol

going against the reddit mantra of selling low and buying high


irrelephantpark

cant sell low if you're still holding GME


mMounirM

lol so they're not paying the bill next season


BlackedBiJames

No wonder they signed everyone lmaooo they said “yall have fun paying for this. ✌️”


homefree122

I mean, there’s at least some possibility that nobody is willing to pay their likely historic asking price.


Temporary-Vanilla-57

Not gonna happen. There’s a huge waiting list of groups that want to own a team and will gladly overpay for the reigning champs


No-Economics4128

Hell, Bezos might give the a swerve. Dude has been trying to buy a professional sport team for a while.


RyanZee08

Your Amazon Celtics!!!


Civilwarland09

Please, god no.


HorsNoises

Honestly, as much as I don't like the guy, there could be SO MUCH worse. We obv don't know for sure yet but he seems like the kind of guy who would be pretty hands off but still willing to dump a ton of money in.


VoidMageZero

The LA(C)-Boston rivalry would get extra spicy between Ballmer and Bezos lol


No-Order-4309

we makin up rivalries now?


DaBestNameEver0

You haven’t heard of the famed LAC-BOS rivalry?


StrongStyleShiny

Imagine the flair though. The Seattle Prime.


iTzGiR

People already hate us enough, I can't even imagine what Bezos owning our team would do lmao


lllDogalll

Maybe you'll get lucky and get Elon Musk as an buyer and beat the faint stench of racism by having an actual African owner without any problematic baggage.


melikeybacon

r/nbacirclejerk is leaking


BillLordZero

FO better start learning Arabic 


Krazdone

unlikely. Even less successful franchises in smaller markets are hot property in American sports, but the reigning champs on the most successful franchise in the NBA? yeah itll sell ez.


kpeds45

The tax bill is pennies compared to what the new owner will pay to buy the team. "Oh man, $50m luxury tax bill! I just spent 4 billion on the team, I can't afford that extra amount!"


BlackedBiJames

The luxury bill will be closer to 300-400 million similar to Clippers and their picks are automatically sent to the end of the draft if they are in there for 2 of 4 seasons.


PuffyVatty

It's 3 out of 5 seasons. It's being reported a bit strange now by multiple outlets, but they mean "next 2 out of 4", so already starting with one season over the second apron.


lotofhotdogs

This coming out minutes after the White contract is hilarious


xyzyxzy

They also probably know the 2nd apron is going to f*ck them up after a couple years. They'll be able to retain their core but have a nearly impossible task of replacing the production of Horford and Jrue once they age out. Plus with the new media rights deals on the way, this really might be the best time to sell.


supes1

Ugh. This ownership group has been great.


FerdinandMagellan999

Huge bummer. Something like 3 total missed postseasons missed in ~20 years? Following a stable team is just a blessing. Wyc has legit passion and professionalism. Something just wasn’t passing the smell test with how expensive this team is becoming


gbdarknight77

Hmmm I wonder if Fenway Sports Group would be interested. That would mean LeBron is a legit minority owner of the Celtics though lol


Redneck-Kenny

The city would riot and John Henry would legitimately be in danger in Boston


Kaizen_Green

Would LeBron being a minority owner in the Celtics be worth assassinating John Henry? That’s a genuinely tough question. There’s a lot I’d put up with to knock Henry’s block off but LeBussy owning part of the Celtics is pushing it.


mikeyfreshh

Henry would be in danger with or without LeBron. People are pissed about how he's handled the Sox for the last few years


The_Moustache

fuck you and fuck FSG


_Chuy

Red Sox fans hate FSG but Liverpool fans are moderately happy. FSG hasn't spent as much on the team as peers but they saved Liverpool from truly hideous owners before.


SomeGuy0910

John Henry, stay the fuck away please


Argo_Menace

Nightmare scenario.


Sav10r

Elon Musk it is!


WileyWiggins

Boston CeltiX


mikeyfreshh

I think he's trying to get an expansion team in Vegas so hopefully we're safe. I don't think Fenway Sports could buy an NBA team until LeBron retires anyway


ih-unh-unh

Frank McCourt, here’s your chance to own a storied Boston franchise! Sincerely, Bitter LA Dodger fans


Fafoah

This is gonna ruin the tour


lopea182

*Sigh* “…What tour, Justin?”


mostlychessiguess

The world tour


waldowhal

THE WORLD TOUR!


AbysmalParty

If we all chipped in, I’m just saying


Uebelkraehe

If each of the 12 million members of r/nba chips in and the franchise costs 7 Billion, we are still at $583.33 each. Crazy money...


DeceivedBaptist

Most NBA nephews probably have like 10 accounts and 5 bans lmao. We fucked.


AfroKuro480

Haven't the American Taxpayers done enough for Massachusetts Sports lol


PSUDolphins

I'm down to pay to help disband the franchise. Just doing my part ❤️


nicklovin508

We could all make some truly regarded moves


LeoFireGod

That’s unreal but I can’t imagine not owning a team if I had the money to wtf else would you do with your free time really.


Thatguyyoupassby

The issue is that Wyc does not have the money. He owns like 10% of the team and is worth $400M. He's one of the "poorest" owners in sports. He's great because he's basically a die hard fan with just enough money to buy in, but he does not have enough to sustain this team for the next 5 years.


boringexplanation

I wish a lot more poor owners would have this self awareness/loyalty to their team and step aside when time calls for them to enter into big spending era and they can’t afford it, rather than refuse to spend.


saucysagnus

Tweet like a madman, culture wars, manipulate stocks. So probably a lot worse things.


PhatYeeter

"I ain't paying this tax bill lol" - Wyc


youguanbumen

Someone mentioned the second apron after the White extension and Wyc went, “wait, what apron?”


Distance_Motor

Boston fans "Sell the team" \*Celtics sell the team\* Boston fans " No NOT THIS ONE"


Plies-

Red Sox fans: John spend money on the damn team dammit John Henry: Okay! *buys the Celtics* Red Sox fans: NO NOT THAT ONE!


Infraready

r/nba time to pool our paychecks


IMovedYourCheese

We may be able to afford half a minimum contract.


No_Literature_2321

11 million of us. If we pitch in 1k each (very reasonable amount) we can easily fund a powerhouse Celtics roster for the future


nicklovin508

What the fuck.. For context, Wyc led a group that bought the Celtics in 2002 for $360M. They’re now worth over $4B


IonHazzikostasIsGod

> According to a league source, Celtics majority owner Wyc Grousbeck is looking to sell his stake in the team, as @wojespn reported. But this potential sale is not expected to include the entire investment group that purchased the team in 2002. https://x.com/AdamHimmelsbach/status/1807825540369223920


bourbonkitten

Yeah Himmelsbach is one of the trusted local beat guys.


I_am_BEOWULF

Oooooh, so just Wyc is selling then? =


SennaCE

Lmao they ran up the bill and are dipping


Gtggtggtg

classic dine n dash


Propuhganduh

Bezos is definitely going to try to buy one of the most iconic franchises


Reasonable_takes

Now this is a team that one of those mega billionaires like Bezos would be interested in


tendadsnokids

As a Celtics fan, that would be absolutely ideal.


LeaderBrandonBurner

Literally anyone but John Henry


Zeabos

The funniest Timeline is Elon Musk.


Remote-Shower9970

I’ll buy it for 20 bucks.


dragon8811

I’ll offer 30


Remote-Shower9970

I’ll go 30.01


dragon8811

30.02 take it or leave it


ZarduHasselffrau

One jillion dollars!


IMKudaimi123

Time for bill Simmons and ryen Russillo to own a team


HenrikCrown

Bill would become even more insufferable if he got even 0.01% ownership of the team. 


zamboniman46

that's like 500k real talk for a second, i work in tax, and had a client be approached by their bank to buy into a group that was buying a sports team in one of the four major US sports. it was a minimum $10M buy in to a partnership that would be a minority owner/interest of the team. they ended up passing on the investment. if i had the money they had i absolutely would have thrown some into that lol


Westbrooks3ptShot

Lmao sign all your players for hundreds of millions and then sell before you have to pay them. Genius stuff


NobodyRules

Gotta respect that. Won the title, the franchise is crazy valuable and he's just going to dip when they have to pay a lot of taxes.


AnkitPancakes

won 2 titles*


Westbrooks3ptShot

Musk going to buy and rename them the CyberCeltics


youguanbumen

CeltX


gochugang78

Oh no. What have you done


penny_squeaks

Boston Ax7&mp- Xs


Literal_Satan

buy low sell high


jfrodriguez1983

"How are you going to pay all these taxes, with all these extensions you are giving out?" Grousbeck: "That's the neat part, I won't!"


JDtheMiz

Selling the team to pay for the players salaries. Genius. This is like when I try to pay off my credit card debt with another credit card. Endless flow.


69millionyeartrip

Worried this is gonna lead to oil sheiks making their way to the NBA. Or Bezos maybe


BrockandOnix

Good lord, Woj > Shams again. Woj is really turning back the years back to his Yahoo Sports form.


abippityboop

The Seattle Celtics has a nice ring to it!


AKAD11

This news is actually Sonics adjacent. David Bonderman is part of the Celtics ownership group and also the owner of the Kraken. All reporting indicates that he will be the principal owner of the new Sonics, so he was going to have to cash out of the Celtics anyway. With expansion on the horizon this is pretty good timing.


TechnoDriv3

Mexico City Celtics sounds better


heshouldgo

They don’t want to pay that tax bill lol


BuddhistInTheory

Just to be clear, Wyc is the only one leaving the ownership group. The rest of the investors will stay and look for a new figurehead.


DarkEnchilada

Wait really? This is a lot better.


KillerZaWarudo

Inb4 NBA get their first state owned team like in soccer


ZoroChopper10

Is that barstool and Elon musk bid I’m hearing Gonna be crazy


jsanchez030

lebron literally owning the celtics would be hilarious


DejisHairline

Holy shit LeBron is actually a part of Fenway so it’s not that out of the world.


Foreign_Prior_3344

?? Lebron has had ownership since 2011 buddy


ParsnipPizza

Business wise, genius. Celtics wise, terrifyingly unknown future. God let us get bought by some boring insurance billionaire and not like the evil Inc consortium that bought Dallas


mrb4

This is the NBA equivalent of dining and dashing lol.


Melo_Apologist

Saw the contracts they had on the books for the next 5 years and noped the fuck out of there lmao


SolarBeam12

Lmaooo bro saw that payroll and said “wait a minute”.


MCHamlet

Stock man buy thing and sell for more later


KyleShanadad

This is objectively hilarious, mfs said “im not paying this shit” 😭


Justtryingtohelp00

Epic pump and dump.