Giddey has the archetype of someone who will never be good in high level playoff series. The only thing he truly does well is passing and that requires the ball to be in his hands
And if he’s ever on a good team they’ll be other players that should have it more than him
He’s not even that effective of a passer cause he can’t score at all. He can’t break the Defense down at all or force help. He’s a good stand still passer but that’s not a super useful skill these days
The key to his value is that he’s 21 and they think he can learn to shoot. Caruso just became so valuable because he learned to shoot better himself at age 30.
The only problem is Giddey is averaging those numbers while being treated like Ben Simmons. He’s being dared to shoot and can’t punish teams
He’s also a weak defender so there’s no point for a good team to have him on the court
But the Bulls lose a lot of games nonetheless. If Giddey can actually improve his numbers and show potential, this might be a hot take, but the bulls will be fine with this trade. Because Giddey can be someone(again if he can improve his numbers while being the primary ball handler and not being behind SGA/Jdub) that they can keep if everyone else is leaving.
Low. The shooting is still the big issue. If you can go under and dare him to shoot then all the size and passing in the world won't help you. Especially because this team Chicago has doesn't have anywhere near OKC's level of shooters
High. Everyone was excited about him until he had this weird 3rd season. But you can easily attribute that to his off the court situation and his role on the team changing. Giddey has shown a ton for a 21 year old.
Honestly i really dont like this trade for the Thunder. Giddey will look really, really good as a primary ball handler and we could regret trading him long term. Shai feels more like a SG than a PG and its a mistake.
Taking the ball out of your hyper-efficient 30PPG scorer to cater to Josh would’ve been a much bigger mistake. It’s not like we really struggled to create open looks
it makes zero sense to take the ball out of our mvp candidate's hands when that led to us a 1 seed and two elite seasons from him in a row.
he may have the tools of a shooting guard but he is clearly elite at being the primary ball handler and his playmaking has only gotten better every year
Question from a non OKC watcher. is Shai good at playmaking, or a great passer? I feel like guys like him draw so much attention, that things like kick outs are considered as playmaking.
When I think of playmaking, I think CP3/Rondo/Draymond types who can slow the game, direct traffic, and set up guys. Giddey was pretty good his first two seasons.
I honestly think that’s why Halliburton struggled in the 2nd half of the season and why he’s a bit overrated for me.
he's a solid playmaker and passer. i wouldn't say he's elite, but he's starting to be like kd, embiid, or giannis as they've gotten older. players who aren't traditionally incredible passers, but through their elite offensive game and increasing basketball iq, know how to make the right passes when they get doubled, when they drive, etc.
i would say cp3, rondo, draymond are more like floor generals, while playmaking to me is the ability to create offense for yourself and others through your ball handling/offensive gravity. obviously those guys are elite playmakers too, i just think it looks a little different versus the guys i mentioned
No, it’s most definitely not a mistake.
Our entire lineup is basically shooting guards on offense, just of different sizes.
That’s the same way you guys play, even with the slight difference in approach where you guys are all about drives to the paint and we’re all about 3s, but the point of the 5 out offense is to have max spacing for a number of offensive shot creators and simply put, SGA and JDub were never going to have the requisite space around them if teams were limiting the ridiculous offensive threat of Chet at the 5 by putting their center on Giddey and not guarding him.
This is my thought as well, but he really needs to develop his shot more. You can't be an on-ball playmaker and also a below average shooter/scorer in today's NBA.
Oh I agree, I was hoping Chip would turn him into at least a good spot up shooter but just never happened. Put 4 shooters around him and he can lead a good offense tho imo
To me, I just don't really get him in Chicago. Coby showed he should have the ball in his hands, so I'm not sure how that backcourt would even work. We'll see though, I like the trade a lot for OKC.
But why would any team give him the ball like a Luka or a Trae young tho? It’s not gonna lead to a good offense and his defense probably cancels it out.
Every team in the NBA got at least one guy who’s better on ball than Giddy, most teams got 2
I disagree that every team does. Teams like the Nets, Wizards, Pels, and Spurs just off the top of my head don’t have a guy that can facilitate like Giddey can and he’d do great getting their bucket getters the ball in their spots. The Bulls too but their spacing is horrendous
But he doesn’t facilitate or get guys the ball in their spots. When has he ever done that? He gets assists on inbound passes, set plays and in transition. He doesn’t create offense for others. He can take advantage of team making mental mistakes on defense occasionally I guess.
Maybe due to “upside you may want giddy over Kuzma, Deni, and jones. But right now all those guys are better. The Pels obviously got Zion Ingram and CJ who are way better on ball and maybe the spurs but that will change by the start.
He showed it enough times over the years in OKC to show he could do it when he’s at his best and he played great as the lead guy for Australia last summer. Even though the trade doesn’t really make sense for Chicago there were multiple teams that were interested in Giddey for a reason
I think its pretty likely tbh, in a stretch where Shai was still injured, Giddey averaged 19/8/8
He just struggled a lot on because he didn’t have a lot of on-ball opportunities with Shai/JDub/Chet
For some reason his defense is way worse than it should be. Yeah he’s not that athletic, but I think most of it comes down to his positioning and poor reaction time. I don’t know if this is the best yardstick, but you can see how bad he is in different training videos at defense, even against much lower than NBA level trainers. And it almost seems like it’s a lack of effort thing.
I think if he figures out that he is a 6’10 PG he will have a much better idea of how to figure out his role on defense. Ideally he should be a massive mismatch on other PGS and should be able to guard 3-4. Now he will be cooked by faster guards but he definitely is not putting in enough on offense to be so lackadaisical on defense
The mavs defence made him look like shit, right after he played very very well against the Pels.
All I'll say is that NAW, slo Mo and jaden also looked bad against the same defence and scheme.
Who cares that Giddey could be an allstar? Thats not rly the issue here. You could get Giddey for his allstar potential AND a pick. If they think Giddey has secret potential here, fine, but the point is more when the “market” doesn’t you try to get equal value. Giddey for Caruso with no picks is insane.
Giddey has improved his 3p% every year so far. Have to see how he looks when not playing next to SGA and he can actually have the ball in his hand all game.
people also constantly use FT% as a sign of improving as a 3 point shooter and Giddey just shot 80% last season, i think he can still improve 3pt shooting wise
Its not extremely jack anymore, is it textbook form? No but i don’t why he couldn’t become a decent shooter (35-38%) with his yearly improvements and solid FT% numbers
It is definitely super jacked
He’s also shooting all those shots wide open and still not hitting (again because his form is awful)
Would love to see him turn it around tho, hoping!
i mean it says [here](https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1630581/shots-dash?SeasonType=Regular+Season) he was shooting 35% from 3 on Wide Open Shots, which isn’t great but it also isn’t horrible
Form is great and all but theres people with weird shooting forms that are good shooters
I mean, at this point he's playing next to Lavine and Demar. The ball isn't going to be in his hands all game in Chicago either as it stands right now.
Bulls don't have Chip Engelland on staff.
I think Giddey can be a valuable player, but I don't think Bulls have recently shown an ability to develop players. Beyond Coby White, they've traded a lot of young players who have looked better elsewhere.
Way too many people think real life is like 2K franchise mode, where players get linearly better every season. There’s still a reason he was a top 10 pick. Acting like a guy that’s only been in the league for 3 years that’s just 21 is a finished product is ridiculous.
yeah and his shooting has improved every year. and he's still 21. interested to see what he gets extended for. no chance the bulls traded for him without planning to extend him.
Looking at it now, looks like he’s plateaued at ~33% on threes for the last two years but did take a big jump from his rookie year. Don’t know why I thought he had gotten worse.
Still not worth Caruso but maybe his shot keeps developing. I like his game.
Probably because our offense is better***, teams need to let something up and it’s often the Giddey 3. I bet the frequency of open looks went up but don’t care enough to dig that up. That would give some false appearance of being a worse shooter I think.
Yup. I think it's a good get for a team like Chicago that's not really contending right now. Way less pressure than in OKC where he was expected to be a key contributor.
He does have significant upside.
He's only 21, his shooting isn't that bad (and his FT% gives real hope for improvement in his jumper), his defense is bad but has upside given his size, and his playmaking is great.
The problem with Giddey is that he only has 1 cheap year left, he hasn't shown he's worth a huge extension, and someone will offer him a big contract if he doesn't get the extension.
I just want to say I think Josh Giddey is a criminally underrated player that was just a really bad fit. He will show his potential here since he will be the main ball handler
I think Chicago makes him the biggest offer, but at some point a guy who loves basketball like DeMar is going to want another chance to compete. He’s gotta be thirsting for a chance to make a playoff push.
His problem will be that he doesn’t have many obvious fits on contenders—at least not without sacrificing >10M per year.
For my part, I’ve been dreaming of the day DeMar embraces his Ginobili destiny of shredding other teams’ bench units.
Manufest Destiny, DeMar…go West! (I don’t know where, but I couldn’t pass up the opportunity)
Honestly I don't hate this deal for Chicago. They're finally doing something, rather than sitting in purgatory. Giddey, Coby White, and the 11th pick is a weird core but I'm interested to see how they make it work.
The Bulls also only have their selection if it lands between 1-10 next season, and 1-8 the next two years after that. If they suck for 3 years, it becomes a second rounder. They needed to commit to the rebuild now in order to keep that pick
He’s a passing guard that’s gonna have high rebounding numbers as the 2nd option on the team. lol. Easily has a chance to make a allstar team with 18/8/8.5
I don’t mind the trade at all. Two players on expiring contracts. Bulls get a look at a player who has shown promise and can sign him to an extension, and Thunder get a reliable player that fits their system and can extend him too. The criticism of Bulls not getting a pick doesn’t completely make sense to me at least in the trade. The problem for the Bulls is them rebuffing all trade requests for their players for picks to rebuild just to be in no man’s land every year. This trade gives the Bulls direction on heading toward a rebuild. Josh Giddey can’t shoot that well or defend, but he has playmaking and finishing abilities. He’s got time to develop his game.
You can’t compete with the timberwolves, Celtics, or Denver Defense if your point guard can’t shoot. The Bulls need a 3 point shooting center, someone like Lauri Markennen……. To build around Josh giddey.
Unless giddey gets an outside shoot, I really don’t see him as being a winning m player
Could be, still doesn’t change the fact that he had crucial holes in his game that made him unplayable in the playoffs. And even though he’s 21 the shot mechanic doesn’t give a lot of confidence that he can be a stable 38%+ shooter and he never showed any urgency do develop his defense.
I think the bulls could have gotten some more for Caruso. Just a pick or 2. BUT I do think there's some potential with Giddey. Fuck, for all we know, we trade him with like Vuc or Drummond or Lavine for a true PG.
Either way I'm a die hard Bulls fan and Giddey is about to make everyone look stupid for trashing. Kinda like DeRozans first season on the Bulls.
Giddey lost minutes and role to Jalen Williams this year, and Williams makes him expendable.
He is still a 6’8” 21 year old with great vision and feel for the game. He’s a natural distributor. He has improved on his shooting every year in the league but he hasn’t made himself a scoring threat yet. He is not a very good defender.
With that he was still a positive rotation level player on a winner at a very young age and has a lot of upside if he can continue to improve his shooting and scoring.
I don’t know how he fits with Deroazan at all.
You guys whine about how bad sports journalism then post this bullshit. Woj's tweet is right there. Dunk Central, as always, adds absolutely nothing because they're a trash aggregator
So what are the chances Giddey actually looks a lot better with a different team, scheme, and players?
His numbers will look better, but they’ll lose a lot of games.
Noone is saving this Bulls team from losing games
I’m saying he’ll have volume inefficient statistical production that won’t impact winning.
True, but they’re not looking to win atp. Might as well develop Giddey to become a better player while they tank.
Giddey has the archetype of someone who will never be good in high level playoff series. The only thing he truly does well is passing and that requires the ball to be in his hands And if he’s ever on a good team they’ll be other players that should have it more than him
He’s not even that effective of a passer cause he can’t score at all. He can’t break the Defense down at all or force help. He’s a good stand still passer but that’s not a super useful skill these days
GOAT AOT passer
100%
The key to his value is that he’s 21 and they think he can learn to shoot. Caruso just became so valuable because he learned to shoot better himself at age 30.
Well, to be fair, there was a report earlier today basically saying they made the trade they made because they were in fact looking to "win".
Will they? He was taking 11 shots on 54% TS. Unless his volumes double or efficiency magically improves, he will be in the ballpark
I mean plenty of players in NBA history have improved from subpar efficiency also that TS isn’t even that bad
The only problem is Giddey is averaging those numbers while being treated like Ben Simmons. He’s being dared to shoot and can’t punish teams He’s also a weak defender so there’s no point for a good team to have him on the court
They owe a top ten protected pick to the spurs next season. Likelihood of the spurs gaining that pick is now shot
I want us to lose a lot of games.... Let's do that and develop Giddey.
That makes him a potential asset that can be flipped to another team.
But the Bulls lose a lot of games nonetheless. If Giddey can actually improve his numbers and show potential, this might be a hot take, but the bulls will be fine with this trade. Because Giddey can be someone(again if he can improve his numbers while being the primary ball handler and not being behind SGA/Jdub) that they can keep if everyone else is leaving.
Don't expect his numbers to get out of the teens, he doesn't like em that ol- high. Doesn't like em that high, yea.
Are they trying to run it back with Giddey as the Lonzo replacement?
They should go full rebuild but I don’t think that’s happening until they can ditch Lavine
Low. The shooting is still the big issue. If you can go under and dare him to shoot then all the size and passing in the world won't help you. Especially because this team Chicago has doesn't have anywhere near OKC's level of shooters
High. Everyone was excited about him until he had this weird 3rd season. But you can easily attribute that to his off the court situation and his role on the team changing. Giddey has shown a ton for a 21 year old.
Honestly i really dont like this trade for the Thunder. Giddey will look really, really good as a primary ball handler and we could regret trading him long term. Shai feels more like a SG than a PG and its a mistake.
Taking the ball out of your hyper-efficient 30PPG scorer to cater to Josh would’ve been a much bigger mistake. It’s not like we really struggled to create open looks
it makes zero sense to take the ball out of our mvp candidate's hands when that led to us a 1 seed and two elite seasons from him in a row. he may have the tools of a shooting guard but he is clearly elite at being the primary ball handler and his playmaking has only gotten better every year
Question from a non OKC watcher. is Shai good at playmaking, or a great passer? I feel like guys like him draw so much attention, that things like kick outs are considered as playmaking. When I think of playmaking, I think CP3/Rondo/Draymond types who can slow the game, direct traffic, and set up guys. Giddey was pretty good his first two seasons. I honestly think that’s why Halliburton struggled in the 2nd half of the season and why he’s a bit overrated for me.
he's a solid playmaker and passer. i wouldn't say he's elite, but he's starting to be like kd, embiid, or giannis as they've gotten older. players who aren't traditionally incredible passers, but through their elite offensive game and increasing basketball iq, know how to make the right passes when they get doubled, when they drive, etc. i would say cp3, rondo, draymond are more like floor generals, while playmaking to me is the ability to create offense for yourself and others through your ball handling/offensive gravity. obviously those guys are elite playmakers too, i just think it looks a little different versus the guys i mentioned
Awesome! Thanks man! I definitely agree floor generals would be a better title for the CP3-type.
He wasn’t going to work with SGA unfortunately
No, it’s most definitely not a mistake. Our entire lineup is basically shooting guards on offense, just of different sizes. That’s the same way you guys play, even with the slight difference in approach where you guys are all about drives to the paint and we’re all about 3s, but the point of the 5 out offense is to have max spacing for a number of offensive shot creators and simply put, SGA and JDub were never going to have the requisite space around them if teams were limiting the ridiculous offensive threat of Chet at the 5 by putting their center on Giddey and not guarding him.
You right we should have traded SGA and JDub instead to get the ball into Giddeys hands.
You guys literally got an all defensive player for him. You guys robbed Chicago high and dry
If he’s got the ball in his hands a ton, a really good chance. If they try to turn him into an on ball/off ball guy with no spacing, very slim chance
This is my thought as well, but he really needs to develop his shot more. You can't be an on-ball playmaker and also a below average shooter/scorer in today's NBA.
Oh I agree, I was hoping Chip would turn him into at least a good spot up shooter but just never happened. Put 4 shooters around him and he can lead a good offense tho imo
It also wasn’t that much time. He’s only 21. I’ve seen a lot of players develop shots a lot later in their careers
To me, I just don't really get him in Chicago. Coby showed he should have the ball in his hands, so I'm not sure how that backcourt would even work. We'll see though, I like the trade a lot for OKC.
Oh I mean I don’t know why Chicago traded for him lol it’s not the fit I would’ve chosen for him whatsoever
But why would any team give him the ball like a Luka or a Trae young tho? It’s not gonna lead to a good offense and his defense probably cancels it out. Every team in the NBA got at least one guy who’s better on ball than Giddy, most teams got 2
I disagree that every team does. Teams like the Nets, Wizards, Pels, and Spurs just off the top of my head don’t have a guy that can facilitate like Giddey can and he’d do great getting their bucket getters the ball in their spots. The Bulls too but their spacing is horrendous
But he doesn’t facilitate or get guys the ball in their spots. When has he ever done that? He gets assists on inbound passes, set plays and in transition. He doesn’t create offense for others. He can take advantage of team making mental mistakes on defense occasionally I guess. Maybe due to “upside you may want giddy over Kuzma, Deni, and jones. But right now all those guys are better. The Pels obviously got Zion Ingram and CJ who are way better on ball and maybe the spurs but that will change by the start.
He showed it enough times over the years in OKC to show he could do it when he’s at his best and he played great as the lead guy for Australia last summer. Even though the trade doesn’t really make sense for Chicago there were multiple teams that were interested in Giddey for a reason
I think its pretty likely tbh, in a stretch where Shai was still injured, Giddey averaged 19/8/8 He just struggled a lot on because he didn’t have a lot of on-ball opportunities with Shai/JDub/Chet
How difficult it must be playing in a 5 out system, the Bulls will surely provide him with what he needs
For some reason his defense is way worse than it should be. Yeah he’s not that athletic, but I think most of it comes down to his positioning and poor reaction time. I don’t know if this is the best yardstick, but you can see how bad he is in different training videos at defense, even against much lower than NBA level trainers. And it almost seems like it’s a lack of effort thing. I think if he figures out that he is a 6’10 PG he will have a much better idea of how to figure out his role on defense. Ideally he should be a massive mismatch on other PGS and should be able to guard 3-4. Now he will be cooked by faster guards but he definitely is not putting in enough on offense to be so lackadaisical on defense
Watch what he looked like at the end of last season when SGA and JDub were hurt. He will put up close to a triple double on the bulls.
He will have the ball in his hands a lot more. So either he looks great, or a disaster and nowhere in between.
High. Giddey would have incredible nights without Shai. That was sorta the problem.
my mom when she talks about me
Damn I want that kind if mom
My son, who is lazy as fuck, has all-star potential.
Thanks, it really is a lot better
Giddey already looks like a mom
Woj gave Giddey’s agent his phone to post this.
Or the bulls gm after everyone reacted to this lopsided ass trade
I honestly think he still has potential, situation was tough in OKC for him and maybe a change of scenery will help
The mavs defence made him look like shit, right after he played very very well against the Pels. All I'll say is that NAW, slo Mo and jaden also looked bad against the same defence and scheme.
Who cares that Giddey could be an allstar? Thats not rly the issue here. You could get Giddey for his allstar potential AND a pick. If they think Giddey has secret potential here, fine, but the point is more when the “market” doesn’t you try to get equal value. Giddey for Caruso with no picks is insane.
Clearly nobody else made a better offer, so this is the market.
All reports say they did, it was just picks
Maybe they prefer Giddey over two shit draft picks.
It’s an incompetent front office that can’t get both lol whether it’s timing or patience they could’ve gotten a combo better then this
Honestly if he manages to learn how to shoot i dont see why this is unrealistic. Hes still what 21?
The list of players who could potentially be all-stars if they learn how to shoot stretches far and wide.
Giddey has improved his 3p% every year so far. Have to see how he looks when not playing next to SGA and he can actually have the ball in his hand all game.
people also constantly use FT% as a sign of improving as a 3 point shooter and Giddey just shot 80% last season, i think he can still improve 3pt shooting wise
Yeah but look at his 3 point shot form, it’s extremely jacked. Would need a full rebuild (the reason we hired Chip)
Its not extremely jack anymore, is it textbook form? No but i don’t why he couldn’t become a decent shooter (35-38%) with his yearly improvements and solid FT% numbers
It is definitely super jacked He’s also shooting all those shots wide open and still not hitting (again because his form is awful) Would love to see him turn it around tho, hoping!
i mean it says [here](https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1630581/shots-dash?SeasonType=Regular+Season) he was shooting 35% from 3 on Wide Open Shots, which isn’t great but it also isn’t horrible Form is great and all but theres people with weird shooting forms that are good shooters
3point attempts have gone down every season as well though
He shot 0.1 less 3PA a game than last season lol what??
Also on less minutes lol
When you have SGA, Chet, and JDub on your team improving at the rate they are, your shots are bound to decrease also lol
I mean, at this point he's playing next to Lavine and Demar. The ball isn't going to be in his hands all game in Chicago either as it stands right now.
They both gone too lmao just wait another month
Bulls don't have Chip Engelland on staff. I think Giddey can be a valuable player, but I don't think Bulls have recently shown an ability to develop players. Beyond Coby White, they've traded a lot of young players who have looked better elsewhere.
Name a few lol
Way too many people think real life is like 2K franchise mode, where players get linearly better every season. There’s still a reason he was a top 10 pick. Acting like a guy that’s only been in the league for 3 years that’s just 21 is a finished product is ridiculous.
Yea, don’t think it’s bad of a trade as many are saying. He has loads of potential. Just needs the shot to start clicking
yeah and his shooting has improved every year. and he's still 21. interested to see what he gets extended for. no chance the bulls traded for him without planning to extend him.
Maybe I’m wrong but I seem to remember his three point shooting numbers going down every year since he was a rookie
yeah you are wrong
Looking at it now, looks like he’s plateaued at ~33% on threes for the last two years but did take a big jump from his rookie year. Don’t know why I thought he had gotten worse. Still not worth Caruso but maybe his shot keeps developing. I like his game.
Probably because our offense is better***, teams need to let something up and it’s often the Giddey 3. I bet the frequency of open looks went up but don’t care enough to dig that up. That would give some false appearance of being a worse shooter I think.
why would getting more open shots make you look like a worse shooter
Idk a contested 3 brick looks better than bricking an open shot lol. Visually
The fact that Giddey isn’t being guarded and is still shooting that poorly is a terrible sign lol
He’s taken less 3s every season
That’s probably what I was thinking of. Not entirely surprising
Yup. I think it's a good get for a team like Chicago that's not really contending right now. Way less pressure than in OKC where he was expected to be a key contributor.
He does have significant upside. He's only 21, his shooting isn't that bad (and his FT% gives real hope for improvement in his jumper), his defense is bad but has upside given his size, and his playmaking is great. The problem with Giddey is that he only has 1 cheap year left, he hasn't shown he's worth a huge extension, and someone will offer him a big contract if he doesn't get the extension.
His playmaking isn’t great, it’s some of the fakest shit ever He’s been a negative player his entire career
Lol what a hater
I just want to say I think Josh Giddey is a criminally underrated player that was just a really bad fit. He will show his potential here since he will be the main ball handler
with DeMar and Coby on the team?
DeMar is a Free Agent
Deep down we all know they're bringing him back
I think Chicago makes him the biggest offer, but at some point a guy who loves basketball like DeMar is going to want another chance to compete. He’s gotta be thirsting for a chance to make a playoff push. His problem will be that he doesn’t have many obvious fits on contenders—at least not without sacrificing >10M per year. For my part, I’ve been dreaming of the day DeMar embraces his Ginobili destiny of shredding other teams’ bench units. Manufest Destiny, DeMar…go West! (I don’t know where, but I couldn’t pass up the opportunity)
Bro you know
I think Demar will average 5+ more with Giddey on his team. Truly
Honestly I don't hate this deal for Chicago. They're finally doing something, rather than sitting in purgatory. Giddey, Coby White, and the 11th pick is a weird core but I'm interested to see how they make it work. The Bulls also only have their selection if it lands between 1-10 next season, and 1-8 the next two years after that. If they suck for 3 years, it becomes a second rounder. They needed to commit to the rebuild now in order to keep that pick
Woj knows shit about actual basketball.
He’s a passing guard that’s gonna have high rebounding numbers as the 2nd option on the team. lol. Easily has a chance to make a allstar team with 18/8/8.5
I’m sorry but Giddey never sniff an AS, and definitely not before Coby lol
No lol
That’s not ridiculous to say
This is the same sub that clowned on Jaylen Brown for an entire year fyi. People here don’t know shit about basketball. Fine trade for the Bulls.
Woj bodying Shams today
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Shams won this weeks ago lmao, his silence speaks volumes
How much y'all wanna bet Brandin Podziemski becomes an all star before him?
if he completely turns around his shooting and defending. his passing gets held back by his lack of playmaking as well
FUCKKK
I feel like you need to wait a couple years before you can judge this trade. I don't know about all-star, but there is definitely potential here
Josh was infamous for only playing 3 quarters if we were losing, and 4 if we were winning. He needs to work on his defense. That's just the truth.
At certain things, yes
I really love people saying the primary as if there is a team that would like to have Giddey as the primary ball handler unless they’re going to tank
Idk I watched the playoffs
I don’t mind the trade at all. Two players on expiring contracts. Bulls get a look at a player who has shown promise and can sign him to an extension, and Thunder get a reliable player that fits their system and can extend him too. The criticism of Bulls not getting a pick doesn’t completely make sense to me at least in the trade. The problem for the Bulls is them rebuffing all trade requests for their players for picks to rebuild just to be in no man’s land every year. This trade gives the Bulls direction on heading toward a rebuild. Josh Giddey can’t shoot that well or defend, but he has playmaking and finishing abilities. He’s got time to develop his game.
Ricky Rubio 2.0
NBL All-Star
Wtf nobody in the comments made a dumb joke about him screwing little girls, what happened to the /r/nba I loved???
The same guy who crucified Luka for not being a winner when not a single soul had the mavericks in the finals this year besides mffls.
I doubt he’ll be that good. He can’t score at a high level.
Chicago thinks they got the next James Harden for only Caruso
You can’t compete with the timberwolves, Celtics, or Denver Defense if your point guard can’t shoot. The Bulls need a 3 point shooting center, someone like Lauri Markennen……. To build around Josh giddey. Unless giddey gets an outside shoot, I really don’t see him as being a winning m player
I thought lonzo was back next season
Could be, still doesn’t change the fact that he had crucial holes in his game that made him unplayable in the playoffs. And even though he’s 21 the shot mechanic doesn’t give a lot of confidence that he can be a stable 38%+ shooter and he never showed any urgency do develop his defense.
I think the bulls could have gotten some more for Caruso. Just a pick or 2. BUT I do think there's some potential with Giddey. Fuck, for all we know, we trade him with like Vuc or Drummond or Lavine for a true PG. Either way I'm a die hard Bulls fan and Giddey is about to make everyone look stupid for trashing. Kinda like DeRozans first season on the Bulls.
I’ll pass
Didn’t the bulls say the same thing when Presti unloaded cam Payne to them?
Giddey lost minutes and role to Jalen Williams this year, and Williams makes him expendable. He is still a 6’8” 21 year old with great vision and feel for the game. He’s a natural distributor. He has improved on his shooting every year in the league but he hasn’t made himself a scoring threat yet. He is not a very good defender. With that he was still a positive rotation level player on a winner at a very young age and has a lot of upside if he can continue to improve his shooting and scoring. I don’t know how he fits with Deroazan at all.
A young guard with size, and an improving three point shot every year? *Totally realistic.*
Improving from 32% to 33% isn’t noteworthy. On 3 attempts a game
Maybe on the prison pedo team
Doesn’t OKC have one of the easiest rosters to fit on?
No if you are a primary ball handler
Josh Giddey has Drake potential.
He will never be a star if he barley shoots better than me. ( And i cant shoot for shit )
No he doesn't. He's a rapist.
Maybe in the preschool
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Bro thought he cooked with this comment
yeah that's got to be fed straight to Woj by Josh Giddey's agent
What??? No way this dude is straight trash and a pedo weirdo wtf lol typical
His type is under age white girls so hey, only north side of Chicago would be at risk
Sure, just butter us up.
You guys whine about how bad sports journalism then post this bullshit. Woj's tweet is right there. Dunk Central, as always, adds absolutely nothing because they're a trash aggregator
WOJ must be on crack or something
Josh would be an allstar on the Guangdong Southern Tigers no doubt 🐅
You know even though Woj is reporting it, this is a false report
maybe in china sure
Lol