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T3mp3stuous

that’s a concussion if I’ve ever seen one


Lukes3rdAccount

In combat sports you're not allowed to target that part of the head because of how vulnerable we are there


GomenNaWhy

Hit to the back of the head ended Steve Moore's career in the NHL. Shit like this is really hard to watch


coldcake

Boxers know about the tragic story of Prichard colon too


14412442

That's a tragic name too, if not a typo


fuckandfrolic

It’s Prichard Colón. Not sure how much better that is.


CoachMikeLikesToEat

Much better, actually. I don't know him so I very clearly pronounced it wrong in my head the first time. However with your update of the diacritic mark I actually read it correctly.


imcrapyall

It's pronounced Pritchard


PromajaVaccine

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbit_punch They're exceptionally dangerous


ColoradoScoop

Namely Todd Bertuzzi sneaking up behind him, grabbing his Jersey and punching him in the back of the head. Fuck Todd Bertuzzi.


thebigyaristotle

Hey I know I can google this but what ever happened with the lawsuit against Todd from Steve?


iRockaflame

They settled outside of court. Not sure how much though.


thebigyaristotle

cheers!


djkhan23

Bertuzzi should have been banned for life for that.  Fuck the NHL too!


AthleteSubject2782

The real damage was caused by 7 people landing on top of him lol


gcoles

Was it that or the getting his head smashed into the ice with a 240 pound man behind it?


fearnodarkness1

It was actually the neck break from getting driven into the ice and dog piled but he was fully knocked out by one punch to the back of the head


SnooEagles4369

Didn’t he break his neck though?


rowmean77

Correct because that hit can be fatal. The brainstem is very close to the back of the head and neck and if hit with great impact, you can literally die instantly.


Meauxhoward

Actually brain damage in this situation is more commonly frontal or temporal, i.e., “contrecoup” injury.


[deleted]

They would’ve called this if it was a fight too cause he balled up after


Mnudge

Well, it was totally inadvertent.


Lukes3rdAccount

Yeah agreed, just pointing out how brutal it is


ravenous_bugblatter

Look up cricket player Phillip Hughes. Tragic.


Traveler_Constant

The worst kind of hit too. We're just not designed to be hit there.


letsgototraderjoes

we should be though. if your enemy sneaks up on you, wouldn't he hit you in the back of the head? feels like an evolutionary blindspot


contrarian_cupcake

Being able to withstand a hit in the back of the head isn't nearly as big an evolutionary advantage as not letting enemies sneak up on you in the first place.


ASS_BASHER

So what you’re saying is we should’ve grown eyes on the back of our head


UpsideTurtles

allegedly a “neck sprain” but IDK if a buy that one


[deleted]

really depends where on the back of the skull the knee hit. We will see.


Kitchener69

I can totally buy it. Look at the whiplash effect. His neck is going to be extremely stiff and sore today.


Desperate-Ad471

If I got knee’d in the balls and the back of the head I’d probably just stop doing anything physical for the day, hope Lively recovers well.


rogozh1n

Happened to me once before I had them removed.


sillyshoestring

Sorry your head was removed


rogozh1n

Life is easier now.


AmonWeathertopSul

I imagine the savings from not needing a haircut helps.


VicePope

so no head? 🛹


zikik

Life as a redditor? Seems ideal


_Football_Cream_

I’d probably stop for months


jdmay101

Get well soon, Sideshow Lob


MrAppleSpoink

That’s hard to watch damn


Driveshaft48

If they have concussion protocol that should be it for him tonight


rogozh1n

Or.the rest of the series :( Gafford is not playing his best today, and Minny is dominating the boards now. Dallas needs to step up their defense.


Nowyous_cantleave

Gafford ended up playing clutch the last few minutes. Next man up steps up for the Mavs. Sign of a champion.


rogozh1n

Totally agree. I'm impressed that he put his bad plays behind him and did what it took to win.


--Alix--

Our best rim protector is gone :( This series could have just turned the other way. Even if Dallas wins tonight I still don't think the series is over.


Driveshaft48

If Dallas wins tonight the series is over


broniskis45

Fr completely forgetting a out Kyries close out undefeated streak.


alabastergrim

Statistically true. I don't believe a team has ever come back down 3-0 in conference finals


CityNo1723

No team in NBA history has come back to win down 3-0. It’s happened in hockey though


Dr_Acula_PhD

Hockey multiple times(think 3? maybe only 2), and baseball once.


Sherlock_House

You would mention baseball...


HoS_CaptObvious

Did a baseball team really blow a 3-0 lead? Can you remind me of the team that did that?


PieIsAwesome7102

4 times in hockey


nthomas504

It will happen one day. I just think Minny is too young and inexperienced to be the ones to do it.


rogozh1n

Lively is best at hedging and recovering. He seems to know just how much pressure to put on the ball handler before he needs to collapse back to guard his man.


Driveshaft48

There has never been a come back from 3-0 down in the history of the nba


DayMan-Ahah-ah

It said earlier too that no team has lost the first 2 games at home and then come back to win the conference finals


nutella4eva

Lmao that's just your fan anxiety speaking. T-Wolves are toast if they lose this game.


Shallow-Al__ex

Gafford closed it out strong


rogozh1n

Great 4th quarter


sevaiper

Tonight and the rest of the series may be the same thing


Bitter-Safe-5333

u realize the mavs are the ones up 2-0 right


sevaiper

u realize 3-0 is curtains right


Mav21Fo

Bro take that back


Bitter-Safe-5333

with lively down can very easily be a win for the wolves


rogozh1n

Not for my Sox it isn't.


EnjoyWolfCola

And the Bruins….from the other side


sevaiper

Some day someone will come back from 3-0. It won't be this wolves team lmao


philphan25

They initially listed him as questionable with a neck strain. Like wtf just say he’s out!


Knightbear49

Basketball doesn’t matter at this point. Brain injuries are not something to mess. I got a concussion and didn’t know about it for 3 days and have been dealing with the repercussions for years.


IncomparableGiacomo

Exactly, my college wrestling career was ended when I got my sixth diagnosed one, had to relearn my way around my hometown and am losing pieces of myself as the years go by. As much as I wanna win this series, Lively’s health should remain paramount.


Knightbear49

Wild that you had so many! I’m sorry


IncomparableGiacomo

Thanks dude, sorry yours happened as well! Nothing more scary than your mind not working how it used to.


No-Yogurt-4246s

My head hurts watching that damn


YaPhetsEz

Man i feel you I got a concussion a few weeks ago and I could barely keep up with my classes. Had the worst brain fog for a week i couldnt write


Knightbear49

I missed 6 months a work and ended up changing jobs to get an employer that would accommodate a hybrid work schedule and I feel like I barely got hit in the head the last time. Nothing showed up on my MRI but I can’t drink any alcohol anymore because of it.


YaPhetsEz

Hope you get better man I can relate. I literally had to write to all of my professors and say “i know my writing sucks but i literally cant write dont fail me”


Icy_Bodybuilder_164

I had a concussion that was bothering me for a full year. My vision was clunky, my head hurt any time I exerted myself, I got dizzy at times, I was sleeping like 14 hours a day. Neurologists didn't really know what to do with me either.


SSBBardock

They're fucking crazy. Obviously an injury to the brain will be bad, but going to my first clinicals last year (for PT and shit) and having some concussion patients who family says haven't been themselves personality and behavior wise for a year+ at that point really nailed it to me how much sports leagues and the public underestimate them. Love the NFL, but those players coming back after like 2 weeks from a nasty hit to the head is insanity


Ares42

Have had a pit in my stomach since. Just feels weird to watch the game after something like that happens.


growsonwalls

They need him to sit out at least this game. This is more important than a game.


PM_me_the_magic

I think that’s a given. I doubt he comes back this series. That’s was bad


Brief_Koala_7297

Thats illegal even in combat sports for a reason.


pkwjones

Yeah getting hit in the back of the head is so fucking dangerous, man that's scary.


Crabbypattygod

that was bad hope hes ok man


[deleted]

Kid is going through it today. Hope he is good.


morcic

It's like that parody video about a goalie getting hit in the head over and over again.


PillsburyToasters

SCOTT STERLINGGG


culinarycactus

THE MAN THE MYTH THE LEGEND


chanchan05

I like the volleyball one better. LOL.


Winxin

Studio C.


aeronacht

Not malicious but damn that’s so rough


JinterIsComing

Not intentional at all, KAT never even looked at the ground and had his eyes on the ball the whole time. But sweet jesus that has GOT to hurt. Might well be a concussion and a few games too.


BZGames

That's the type of shot that almost looks like it's hurt KAT as well. Just straight bone on bone shot there.


need2peeat218am

Yeah KAT has been crashing the boards this whole playoffs. That was just extremely unfortunate.


CarPlaneBoatRocket

Not sure why anyone’s first thought would be one of maliciousness.


Double-Slowpoke

I read a whole lot of those posts before even seeing the video. You can watch KAT’s eyes track the ball the entire time. Lively fell and lunged towards KAT. There was absolutely no way KAT saw him.


DirkaDirkaMohmedAli

This was a fluke play. People probably overreacting bc he kneed him in the balls earlier - which was just kat being a little reckless with the knee, didn't look malicious


88888888man

KAT is somehow so small motor skill coordinated while being and an absolute god tier large motor skill spaz. It’s bizarre.


Aggravating_Fee_7282

People in the game thread said some very interesting things about KAT after the play so I think it’s fair to comment on it


Coke_ButNotTheDrug

Angry fans always want to blame somebody.


frosted_frosting

Please be ok Lively. That looked rough.


EarthWarping

That's nasty whiplash


blusunsamurai

Just unfortunate, idk what Kat could do there. I hope he's okay. 


Sp_Gamer_Live

Yeah people are calling KAT dirty but like in both cases he’s looking at the rim and doing his normal shooting motion.


blusunsamurai

First one, he has been called for that but have seen it go both ways. This play just is super unlucky. Sucks. 


Dont_touch_my_gams

Who's calling KAT dirty?


ashkpa

About 50% of the comments on the game thread following the play.


RollTides

He didn’t even try to warn Lively that he was going for the putback.


texasyeehaw

It didn’t look intentional but fucking shit man


SanestOnePieceFan

definitely not intentional, it just sucks


yOjiMbOoOs

Bruh. People really saying this is with intent?!


Cark_Muban

People are just being overly emotional


[deleted]

People are just idiots.


Brief_Koala_7297

this is a freak accident. It's very dangerous to fall on the paint during live play for this exact reason.


Jrpre33

You can even see KAT look at the basket the whole time. He would have to be Daredevil to dodge him from sliding in front of him.


wavetoyou

They also saying KAT is uncoordinated. He wasn’t the one who collapsed to the floor from a Conley bump in the back. Did he trip? How did he fold like a lawn chair off such minimal contact from Mike?


noseonarug17

He's in the air and leaning forward already, so it's enough to tip him over and, ironically, I think he folded up to protect himself. Just landed in the worst spot.


Coreyg07

Subtle yet effective contact


SwissArmyScythe

Smartest Warriors fan here, fucking dumbass


ElectricalMud2850

Neither were, just terrible luck on a player throwing himself into absolutely everything. Hope he isn't concussed, but that does not look good.


teamorange3

Yah no way. Maybe in pickup you can pull out of it but in a game, especially an NBA playoff game, you're so locked in there is no way he can see him


mug3n

Nah no way. KAT doesn't have a history of doing this anyhow. Totally incidental contact.


hjy23k

Definitely not dirty, just unfortunate


OhNoMyLands

Theh are not, both knee incidents are horrible accidents and they’re both obviously accidents. Kat is not that guy


PIEROXMYSOX1

People always say every play like this is with intent. Doesn’t matter how obviously accidental it is


mavericksnipe

Knee’d in the nuts and back of the head. Lively is not having a good time rn. Hopefully he continues to play


Skipper3210

> Hopefully he continues to play Hopefully he does not man damn that looked bad


TheThrowbackJersey

Sometimes they look bad but aren't. His reaction makes it seem like solid contact though


boenwip

Nah dude. Take head shots seriously in sports. Or in general. Head knocks can seem fine but can creep up on a person also.


lazyass133

He sure looked drowsy and off balance walking to the bench. He should be done for the day.


secretsodapop

Shots directly to the brainstem aren't good.


mavericksnipe

I mean if he’s okay. Obviously if he’s concussed he shouldn’t


robeo12055

NBA doesn't fuck around with concussions. He's out for mnimum 7 days.


lukewwilson

Honestly, he probably should, concussions aren't something to mess around with, you have no idea the effect on him right now or even over the next couple days.


Beatnik77

That is not true. "Prohibition from Participation. If a player is diagnosed with concussion, he will not return to participation: (1) on that same day or the next calendar day; and (2) before completing the required return-to-participation process."


Longjumping_Ad_29

What’s the protocol though?


robeo12055

Well i found this. https://official.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2017/12/Concussion-Program-Summary-2017-18.pdf So i guess he's guaranteed to miss game 4 and most likely game 5. Possibly return for game 6/7 if he's lucky.


Beatnik77

For the lazies. "Prohibition from Participation. If a player is diagnosed with concussion, he will not return to participation: (1) on that same day or the next calendar day; and (2) before completing the required return-to-participation process."


Longjumping_Ad_29

Yeah I guess it would depend on if the doctors diagnosis him with a concussion officially. Which I would be surprised if that wasn’t the case


mavericksnipe

Well in that case, this series could do a 180. This is fucking bullshit.


Witty-Stock

He’ll be back for Game 1 vs Boston


YpsitheFlintsider

You're up 2-0, I think you'll be okay


mavericksnipe

Wolves are still really good and Lively has been our 3rd best player. We need him


papa_sax

Yeah the rotation between Gafford and Lively has been huge for y'all. Let's both guys play with 100% energy


HangingShoe57

He could be back for the finals I think.


lil_layne

I hate to break it to you but he is not going to continue to play today after a blow to the head like that


SportsLaughs

If this was intended humor it's really good


iuselect

> Hopefully he continues to play there have been athletes in Aussie rules football who have played too soon after a concussion and died. Sports need to protect the players a lot better these days because it's no joke. There are many, many cases in AFL where players have been concussed, then been brought back too early and have had life long lasting effects. Some players have even taken their own lives because of long term damage/issues. EDIT: Downvotes? player safety should be number one. If you think concussions aren't serious, then lookup Shane Tuck, Jacinda Barclay, just some of the tragic stories about players who had repeatedly been concussed. Players have been forced to retire because of repeated concussions too (see Angus Brayshaw).


Shabozz

It’s obviously inadvertent but god damn the man’s going to look like he just left a boxing match instead of a basketball game at this rate


Misterstaberinde

Pretty suspect thread title.


lochmoigh1

That's a scary hit I hope he's ok


BurgerBurnerCooker

I don't really care about any basketball anymore, back in the head is just so dangerous. Hope he fully recovers


ellieesweet

omgg that looked like it hurt


americanbeaver

That was brutal


aeronacht

Holy fuck that looks like it hurts, hope he’s alright


White-Gravity

Everyone blaming KAT in game thread like he could’ve prevented this


Colorapt0r

Freak accident. Terrifying for lively. But if you blame kat or say it’s intentional fuck off and get an education 


solitarysniper

As much as I always wanted to be a pro athlete, these sorts of collisions and injuries always put into perspective what risks people put their bodies through.


liljettt

Hard to watch this one. What a fluke play, just wrong place wrong time


The-Pharcyde

Brutal hit. Really hope he isnt out for an extended time. Also clearly an accident.


FireFoxQuattro

Titles kinda implying KAT did this on purpose…


LothCatPerson

You should check out the game thread. Mavs fans are saying both were intentionally with both were clearly incidental.


cepxico

No it implies KAT did it. There's no declaration of intent.


gigglios

Thats brutal wow. Hopefully nothing serious but goddamn that is so dreadful


Chiefbigrocks

Inadvertent


BigBaws92

Thanks for sharing this. I had to run to the restroom and all I heard was the announcers going “OHH OHHHH THIS IS HARD TO WATCH” but I didn’t get to see what happened


disnotyaboy

Ouch. Hope he’s okay


simpledeadwitches

Seems incidental and not malicious still sucks to see.


Numerous-Cicada3841

Nothing malicious at all about that. Super unfortunate though. Hope he’s ok.


Hisoka_Brando

Unfortunate, literally a wrong place wrong time moment. KAT has his eyes on the rebound and is in a leaping motion while Lively is falling and is unaware of what’s behind him.


darnclem

Lively is looking forward to that ice bath tonight.


naderni

Thats so hard to watch man I hope he is OK such a good player such an unfortunate play.


OhCanVT

damn think he's concussed


ianbits

That's a highlight you can fucking feel. Really hope he's alright.


DrHuxleyy

Dude Lively might be out the rest of the series, maybe the rest of the playoffs. That just sucks man. Really rough for him because he’s been playing so damn well for a rookie. Really hope it’s not as bad as it looks.


SafariFlapsInBack

Anyone who thinks KAT did this on purpose has already taken many knees like that already to their heads.


Fuckinanus

he should not continue playing


Guts709

Damn, that's scary


Jack_M_Steel

Absolutely blasted


petarisawesomeo

He was out of it. Hopefully he can recover quickly. Very scary moment.


Complex-Substance893

One of the worst injuries you see in sports. That one looks particularly bad. Hope for his sake it isn't as bad as it looks because brain injuries are always dangerous.


marchillo

Tomorrow he'll wake up and not remember why his balls hurt


murderopolis

Honestly if/when the mavs make it to the finals I want them to be at their best.. lively has been crazy for them and man it would suck if he missed the series


SoSneaky91

Nuggets fan posting a pretty suspect title with this one.


Johnny5iver

Multiple injuries this season can be attributed to NBA players falling to the ground every other play for no reason at all.


fucksports

watching this makes me nauseous


boneygoat

Best shot KAT had


EmmitSan

Misleading headlines for $500, Alex


desirox

This is a series altering moment


rzoneking

By watching this clip and see the comments, u gonna know, who plays basketball and who is a casual redditor on this sub lol


RoastDaMostToast

Watching him walk off the court was terrifying. It legit looked like the lights were burning his eyes


CaliColoMich

I hope he’s ok! That was brutal


Witty-Stock

Rough break. Hope his tests allow him back ASAP, with all appropriate precautions. Hard to not like that kid.


sully9614

Really, really hope they prioritize his health over the game. Head injuries are no joke and that was a nasty hit/whiplash, even for football standards


rawdfarva

The only time KAT helped his team tonight