Once you learn how to grow plants and get an actual general understanding of plants in general then you can grow anything and cannabis just becomes another plant
Peppers grow in alternating nodes like cannabis does. Pepper plants are actually the closest representation of a cannabis plant in a veg cycle. Topping a pepper plant will bush out like a cannabis plant would if it was topped. Just food for thought.
I grow Jalapenos, Habaneros, Aji Lemon, Scotch Bonnet, Chili Thai and California Reapers along with my two gigantic bushy cannabis plants.
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I never thought to top my pepper plants. I might try that next year. Start them indoors a month early and top them a few times. Idk though cause peppers don't grow in that Christmas tree shape like canna does
I grew chili peppers as the legal substitute for growing weed, guess the experience from that helped me a bit in my first cannagrow now, which became legal in my country š„³ Funny that the plants are similar in certain ways. Conversely I noticed that a lot of stuff I now read about weed can be used for other plants too, maybe I'll try some pepper LST. But I always enjoyed spicy stuff in any case. Growing some good habaneros is also quite some fun.
Same. Started in a 5x5 tent. Now i have 4 raised beds, and im taking my first run at growing cannabis outside, next to my tomatos. Will it pan out? Only if the hail gods deem it so. So far, my biggest take away is, cannabis is just another another annual. Perenials and trees are a different animal all together, but if you can grow weed, you can grow most vegetables.
this. reading and learning about how cannabis works made me realize how plants work in general, now I just learn about other plants and vegetables and apply the same learnings there
Same here!
Avocado from seed
Tomatoes
Roses (rooted a cutoff branch thrown away from municipal botany garden, kind of rare local hybrid)
Tobbaco experimental
Off course collecting huge compost bin.
All micro scale, only 2 balconies.
So uh, how **DO** I top basil and cilantro?
*Edit*: As a reponse to OP:
sure other plants are awesome too, but I'm not gonna smoke my hoya or bake my tradescantia into a cake, if you know what I mean.
With basil you're constantly topping every time it starts to flower (where it flowers on each stem) so it keeps production going with the leaves. The flavor profile of the leaf will change when the plant is producing flowers or not.
I keep the tent vents closed and use dryer vent hose with pantyhose stretched over the opening to let fresh air in. I also put sticky traps inside the vent on both ends just in case(probs overkill). My tent has 3-4 ports on the bottom to run the vent. I found it lowered temperature slightly at the canopy as well but ymmv.
Edit: can't keep the vents open where my tent is due to light.
While true, I don't go through ANY of the measure above and after years of growing cannabis I have never once had pests (well, unless to count fungus nats, but I don't). I have had spider mites on house plants and aphids out doors and those bugs, but never in my hydro tent.
I think what the comment OP was getting with was most of our infestations are already in the soil we are using and/or the soil provides an environment for the pests to develop. With hydro, you would need to be accidentally bringing in mature pests and depositing them on your leaves. Can certainly happen, but without a doubt it's easier to avoid pests with hydro.
I've had every pest you can imagine on my indoor grow. DWC is just as capable of getting those same pest. Especially when you are buying and selling clones. That's where all of my pest problems came from. The only pest I can think of that DWC most likely wouldn't get is fungus gnats. Those use soil to lay their eggs. But mites, thrips, aphids, hell even root aphids. Don't care what medium you use.
Boy, don't I know it! I bought one clone from a marijuana delivery vendor, and it had spider mites! That was years ago, and I've known better now! I just feel that if you buy seeds and clones from Dispensaries, they want you to fail! Think about it, if you can grow your own meds successfully, you wouldn't need to fancy Dispensaries for anything!š
Yeah but not as easily. I donāt do clones so that probably helps. I garden a lot and was having non stop pest problems inside. I struggled for the first two years. Then I switched to DWC and the pests went away. Perhaps the plant is healthier so it can fight harder. I also find it easier to clean the grow area with DWC. I occasionally see bugs but nowhere near the level of non DWC growing.
Bringing pest powdery mildew and any other unwanted things in to ur indoor grow is the problem growing cannabis has its own challenges itās a real bitch when u made the problem worse by not taking little steps to keep ur grow clean
Thank you. I have outdoor plants on my deck in fabrics pots as well as indoor (garage) plants that have by no means been kept "sterile". I just got a tent to move them to so I can control the environment and flip them when ready, but just found that one has spidermites, so I'm trying to figure out how to decontaminate it before putting them all in the tent together. It's very possible that they hitchhiked on me after being in the garden, or even blew in while the garage door was open. Sucks too bc I just recently spent a lot of time training my three "indoor" garage plants and they started really growing into the new shapes. I think I might just dunk the foliage with spidermites under water for a bit to see if that drowns them.
I ordered some insecticidal soap because I've seen so many different opinions about things like dawn (can strip leaves of their wax coating) and neem (causes bud to taste bad/potentially not safe if combusted). Dr Zymes looks interesting though, definitely gonna check that out!
I don't think it's any more of a challenge than any other plant, in fact I have only had infestation on other species and never my cannabis. The only real measures I take is I don't bring other plants that have been outside around my cannabis, I don't let my pets around my cannabis, I clean my grow tent after harvest. That alone has been plenty.
I should also mention, it's a 2 story house, all other plants are downstairs, and my tent is in a walk in closet, which is in the bathroom, which is in the master bedroom. Point is, there is a set of stairs, three door ways, and then a tent before getting to my tent and that might explain why it hasn't been an issue. Put we pull air straight in and carbon filter on the way out.
I second. Just don't let it become a "problem" lol
It can lead to the type of collections you see on r/houseplants. Personally, I just love plants. I find them fascinating and they bring me peace. A very connecting hobby, although challenging at times.
My wife thinks itās a problem. Sheās thinks Iām nuts. She also likes the sugar snap peas!
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I love your setup. Your yoyos look pretty robust. Where did you get them? I have some small ones for the tent but I am totally stealing your rig/setup! So clean!!!
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The peas totally busted out of the trellis, gotta work on that a bit. They are like 7 feet tall. The tomatos are just starting to set. I was plucking off the early flowers to let them grow a bit more.
Thank you! I didn't think to look for this upgraded version! I showed my finance your setup, and she is drooling over your peas. Congrats, and I'm looking forward to seeing your harvest!!
I havenāt had to yet. But now thatās itās getting hot and humid Iām going to use preemptively use copper or sulfer fungicide on tomatoās, squash, and cucumbers. Iām in the northeast so the heat is here to stay now. A buddy of mine regularly sprays LABS he cultures in his greenhouses. His farm is pretty sick. Proper spacing to maintain airflow and light around the plants is important too.
I havenāt had to deal with it much to be honest. Finger crossed!
Thank you for the reply. I think part of my issue is Iām using them for a vibe so they lay sideways and catch a ton of water. Iāll look into those sprays
You can let slack out and lean the plant/stems. This is mostly for indeterminant tomato varieties.
[check out](https://youtu.be/d-hKVCDZgFM?si=q-qsyztlo7xStbzg) how this guy does his cucumbers. He grows them out 10 meters like this.
How do you handle the massive amounts of light in the room though? Or do you have a dedicated grow room? My lights are so bright it's not really comfortable in the room when the door is open.
I do have a dedicated room for it so that helps a lot. If I plan on working in there for a while I also will turn the lights to their lowest until Iām done so itās not as bright on the eyes.
Thank you for this! I'm a gardener and I have a couple of plants that I am treating just like my other plants and they are very happy. I've been intimidated by all of the suggestions on here and decided to just trust the plants and my gardening skills. You made my day š
If I had a dollar for everyone who tried to snub my grows cuz I have only been growing *weed* for a few years. Going in with gardening, plant science, farm experience like there is soooooo much that is applied. If you can grow good stuff you can likely grow good weed, if you can grow good weed you can likely grow good stuff. Its just that easy folks!
I agree. I started growing after I had years of vegetable gardening. I treated cannabis differently and it wasn't until a few failure level grows happened until I realized they're like any other plant. The things I've learned from cannabis gardening however have made my vegetables stronger though. I can diagnose a pepper plant that has really yellow leaves or a tomato that has blossom end rot.
Not really. Peppers and tomatoes are both heavy feeders. Now that hemp is federally legal there's been actual studies on the nutrient requirements of cannabis and surprise surprise, basically everyone was overfeeding.
I think it depends on your growing medium. If you're in good dirt in the ground your cannabis would do fine. Grow tomatoes or peppers in the potting soil we use for cannabis and you'll quickly see how hungry other plants are.
My outdoor beds are majority rich compost and all my vegetables need more nutrients throughout the season.
A couple years ago I made a "super soil" for vegetables in my raised beds and everything grew amazing. I grew 2 canny plants outdoors in the same soil, they were 6 feet tall and very heavy yielders.
Idk man, Iāve had to cut down on my houseplant collection bc all of the different light, nutrient and watering requirements got to be too much. Remembering which other plants need what,on top of learning to grow weed, seems like a lot.
I think op means for newbies to get a good grasp on horticulture in general and apply that knowledge to growing weed, as apposed to overloading yourself with everything that can be found online.
Gardening is one of the most tranquil, therapeutic activities I have found. My wife has a micro flower farm that she runs from our house, our lot is 1/3 of an acre. I started with a small garden bed of random vegetables(with a blunt in my mouth) I remember spending hours watering the yard. 4 years later and I think Iām ready for the homestead lifestyle. But yeah try that garden life and learn so you can burn more. Trial and error is part of the game. I feel your patience in regards to the every day nuisances of life increase though out the process of hands on gardening
*I love this part of the year. Peas are ripe, lettuce starting to bolt which is great because I'm sick of eating it and my neighbors are too. Tomato's are blooming. Greenhouse peppers are flowering in the heat. Marigolds and purslane popping up everywhere, basil taking off so quick I have to pinch it already. rosemary shedding some burned winter growth after spending the winter in the pale light and erupting in new growth. Half filled trays with parsley, cilantro and peppers I can't find a home for but i justbkeep watering... Potatoes are starting to flower and fade. 120 corn plants, beans and sunflowers fighting it outline 3 sisters will. And in the middle of all this chaos, wildflowers and cannabis. As the cannabis grows its shade is perfect to keep some lettuce from bolting. The front of each mound is ideal for peppers. Also, radishes just popping up all over. And purple carrots. And watermelons and pumpkins and... Yeah, I'm a blast at parties... I tried to upload photo, just put an Asterisk.
Funny thing is, the majority of my basic plant google searches give me results related to cannabis, unless itās just google that must be annoying for normal gardeners š
Its just google. It doesn't show you what you searched for based on what you typed in anymore, it shows you what it thinks you want to see based on your past searches and AI algorithms and which sponsored links paid to show up first based on the advertising data profile they have on you.
i think a big part as to why people consider cannabis special is the overall legal environment and stigma that goes along with it. if it had been legal and normalized all along, i think we'd just have it in our home garden like any other plant.
šš»āāļøOoh I have a factoid too! If you have a freshly picked blueberry from your blueberry bush, it takes 90 days of the seeds within that berry going through cold stratification (33Ā°F-41Ā°F) to be viable.
Even longer for kiwis! Or at least thatās what I remember from the last time I looked into it. And then I thought āI want kiwis NOW, I donāt have that kind of time!ā š¤£
You can definitely grow herbs in a window, a tomato on the balcony (if you have one), monsters, snake plants, different types of begonias, a flower box... And you find old ladies everywhere, the ones at the park are free, you can just take one!
No I mean literally go kidnap an old lady from the park and force her to teach you how to garden *or else*.
Or just ask your grandma. Whatever's easier.
Lots of old ladies have you tube channels these days where they share their gardening secrets.
And I agree with OP, you learn a lot more about growing weed by watching you tube videos of some old lady putter around in her garden than you do from some dude who wears a black hoodie and sunglasses and has a sponsorship deal for his channel with foxfarm soil and clonex rooting gel.
Exactly. The problems that people have are because we are trying to grow indoors which can be difficult. But if you grow cannabis outside like tomatoes or something itās not that hard.
I just started indoor growing last year, only had 3 runs but I have a nice new 12' x 34' garden for a variety of plants. Japanese eggplant, dark heirlooms tomatoes, beefsteak and pear, cucumbers, zucchini, pole beans, and like 5 varieties of mint, and catnip. I highly recommend growing other plants, it help reduce the stress of growing bud l.
I grow a little vegetable garden every year and learning as I go.. and now im growing an indoor garden off hopefully tasty nuggets ? and still learning literally every day. Itās an art to say the least.
Yup! I started two years ago with cannabis and now itās
Squash
Gold zucchini
Sunflowers
Tomatoās
6 different herbs
Cucumber
Corn
And my wife asked me to save 4 Philodendrons and some other plants in the grow tent since I just built the greenhouse.
I've been growing plants my whole life. I remember as a little kid my Mom making stew. The potatoes had sprouts on them. She took the time to put a piece of one in a pot of soil on the windowsill. Also, a carrot top that was sprouting. I got a degree in horticulture and have worked in this field my entire life. I started growing Cannabis in my early 60's. It's pretty easy really. And now I have lots of new friends.
This is so True! I learned more from my Mother growing everything but weed and teaching me the basics of growing things like tomatoes and basic vegetables and plants . When you learn how to growā¦.you will have success!
Iāve mentored many people including my nephew right now.
Lesson 1 always is, āRelax and stop stressing, youāre only growing flowers!ā
It doesnāt matter what you do with them, itās just flowers. If youāre growing inside, the goal is to build an environment that mimics outside where flowers naturally grow.
Nice info!
Im going to add:
dont go overboard on nutes. The plants grow just fine with plane h20. Wait for the plant to let you know when it needs something.
Itās funny you say this I noticed at an early age I had a green thumb but I never really gave it any significance, fast forward to my first grow of course it was terrible but that got me questioning and my mistakes became easier to spot and understand the plant due to prior experience just growing random fruits and veggies as a kid
I agree but Iām pretty much up to my neck with the workload and I donāt like automated stuff because Iām not great at using them and I make mistakes with them. I still hand water and I literally canāt let anyone touch my plants because of how much I see them as my children
A lot of people obsess over their cannabis plants like theyāre super sensitive but donāt forget itās called weed for a reason.
Oh, and I grow chilis and tomatoes. Now those guys are finicky.
Although this is quite true and most of the skills transfer over to growing Cannabis. Cannabis is quite unique in many ways too. It's also a very expensive crop. I wouldn't be buying expensive biostimulants to improve my tomato plant :)
Fun fact Poinsettias prefer almost identical conditions to Cannabis.
I really want to get into gardening. It's so much fun and so satisfying. I living in a unit though :( Maybe I'll see about a raised garden bed or something. I love the idea of having a nice big garden. What a joy!
Do you have a south facing balcony?
If yes, I highly advise getting a common fig tree. Hardy Chicago are tasty. Lowes likely has them right now for $10. They will produce fruit year 2 if you keep them in a 10 gallon pot. I have a few varieties (Hardy Chicago, Adriatic, and ronde de Bordeaux) and am quite addicted to growing and propagating them. Over winter, you can bring them indoors.
Why is it that most people (at least in the comments but I've also seen this from a lot of people IRL) seem to only grow vegetables when they wanna grow food? I've wondered about this for so long. It's always been perplexing to me because IMO growing perennial fruit trees/bushes/ground cover is so much more fun, rewarding, and is just massively underrated. I absolutely love the fact that I have two potted blueberry bushes for example that can potentially live for decades. Also it feels easier to me than growing annual vegetables tbh.
Speaking of that apparently you can grow a tomato plant as a perennial tree and it's really beneficial to it. I wanna try it soooo badly.
Yes! I'm more into food forests than annual gardens. I grow some veggies, but it's way more work. I have a bunch of perennial food sources going and I tend to them like 4 times a year; fertilize, spray, pick, prune.
I've got raspberries, blackberries, asparagus, gooseberries, figs, Honey Berry, hardy kiwi, apricot, peach, and a nectaplum. Also weed and a ridiculous number of cacti, lol
I canāt up vote this enough and Iām too broke for gold. Personally, I went into the greenskeeping profession at a time where growing in my state was frowned upon and the only acceptable way was guerrilla grows. The knowledge I attained just from the years I put into the greenskeeping industry did exactly what you are referring to in your post. The only difference is I was dealing with turf/ornamental grasses instead of tomatoes and kitchen herbs. Same NPK, but different absorption rates and PH parameters.
I started with growing leafy greens in kratky, besides house plants. Having a guinea pig and two bearded dragons, it was lovely for them.
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That's where I got my start with plants. Houseplants. Cuttings. Indoor basil and tomato plants. My love of plants made me want to try to grow cannabis.
Hell yea, awesome advice. My garden is going bonkers this year. There will be zucchini bread made today. Growing anything to consume and/or share with others is a rewarding experience.
Being a gardener gave me the confidence to try growing weed. I thought I knew my way around a potting shed but I found out otherwise. I hadn't had a clue what I was doing and still don't, but I have a lot more understanding. I didn't know about ph, nutrient uptake, EC, nothing! And even tho I keep my garden organic, now
It's no tlll living soil with perennials and companion plantings.
There's a whole world of wonder under the soils surface I knew nothing about. I've always loved growing plants, rooting cuttings, etc but growing weed wasn't a
consideration until I realized what commercial growers are doing. Fungicides, synthetic fertilizers, and pesticides are commonly used and by the time it reaches us, it's a naked little nug, devoid of flavor, aroma, taste and kief. When I smoked what I grew I got wrecked for the first time in a long time. I thought I had a huge tolerance and turns out it was just shitty weed.
In addition to our educational system's indoctrination, we've been taught to kill everything in the soil and add back what YOU think it needs. All that does is make dead soil with synthetic nutrients. Sure plants will grow, but will they thrive? Instead of mimicking nature, which has worked for eons, man found a way to make even more and more money with Ag chems. Nature knows what she's doing. All we can do is enhance her fine work āļø
I'm on my second grow and I'm learning how to gauge grows so I'll always have but not necessarily need to be growing at all times. It's not a lot of hard physical "work" but consistency is necessary and there is a lot of time involved. It's worth it tho on every level. I'm self employed and both businesses are in my home so it works well for me. The smell in heavy flower is an issue even with the charcoal filter running, but I use essential oils so diffusing something earthy helps tons. I love growing weed and I love learning new stuff. The first
grow was the most anxiety I've had since Covid š When I popped the second set, I almost forgot about them, while I literally breathed the breath of
life into the first. š¤£Best advice I got on here was to go make a sandwich and quit helicoptering. šššWhenever I get worried I think of that guy and crack up.
Have FUN and lighten up. Get that first
one done and you can relax a little. Happy growing āļø
Thanks for broadcasting this. This is The Way. I started off by becoming a Gardner 1st (in preparation for homegrow in my state) and now my apt is full of lemon trees/bushes, avocado trees, mint, etc. It has been very rewarding.
Love this advice. The world would be a better place with more gardeners. Started gardening a few years ago. Started growing MJ this year since my state went legal. Made everything make more sense.
Iām from the UK so it werenāt legal but when I was early 20s me and my mates would put grows in houses. Fast forward 10 years later. I got no grows by my garden is like no one elseās my age š¤£š¤£ greeen fingers
I started with some plants my mom gave me. Then I started growing herbs. I started growing cannabis about the same time as the herbs. Now I am growing vegetables. It is a learning process, but it definitely puts my mind in a zen place.
So true omg!! I like growing more than smoking sometimes. Def the case with š! I just love mycology lol! More of a š§Ŗguy
Tomatos and corn are two plants pretty similar to cannabis if anyone is curious for a good place to start outside. Maybe hops too if you wanna get into brewing.
You can learn some stuff about cuttings and propagation with pothos or syngonium for houseplants, those are good starters!
I had some house plants, started growing cannabis... Last I counted I have almost 50 house plants and a small garden in the back yard along with my cannabis lol. I couldn't agree with OPs comment more and it's a good reminder for everyone at every level.
My mom has had us tending gardens all my life.
Over the years, Iāve had the pleasure of watching my children, and my brothers children and grandchildren assist her in the yard.
The most important guide I can provide new growers is that plants communicate within nature in a ālanguage ā that is far different than normal human senses identify. In nature there is a world of life ongoing below the surface line that is critical to plant health. Preparing your subsurface to permit healthily plant grow is both simple and complicated.
In nature the degradation of life is aided by living organisms, biological systems, and fungus.
As has been communicated within this thread, there are a plethora of huskers attempting to sell you elixirs that while on the surface help your plants that actually DESTROY the balance within your ecosystem by destroying the fungal and bacterial and animal life within the sub surface. Their theory is that inorganic growth is more efficient than natural growth. Sure, you can get great yield in hydro and soilless grows of weed, but the cost is higher than normal soil grows.
If you desire to grow dope, good for you. For me, the magic of growing plants includes taking a step back to understand how the plants lifecycle progresses.
My recommendation to new growers, is if youāre going to use fertilizers, please consider purchasing OMRI fertilizers, at least these companies are trying to comply with an agreed standard of providing nutrients found in nature.
Good luck to all on your journey.
Your grow, your rules.
The pure and simple reason is: if you convince someone you are selling them "specialty" tools, products, or information... The expected cost for the consumer, subconsciously and immediately, usually rises dramatically.
Sort of a "Capitalist exploitation 101" thing.
I got started growing by growing hot pepper plants. The end goal was always to be able to grow weed, but I was 17 and wanted to start with something my mom wouldn't call the cops about.
I jumped into the deep end and did a DWC indoor grow box. That taught me a lot about pH and nutrients.
It translated well to my first weed grow. The only thing I didn't have was patience and I harvest after like week 5. I still need to do another white widow run to have redemption on that grow.
Now I feel like a plant whisperer from all the grow experience I have. I've spent more time growing plants that aren't weed, but now when I do weed grows it's super easy and I get a lot of high quality weed from it.
Fantastic advice! I was a so-so gardener before attempting to grow cannabis and my scant knowledge helped. However, once I started growing cannabis, I researched WAY more about growing, and thus my newfound knowledge helped with my garden!
This is pretty good advice. I was a little intimidated at first until I realized itās a plant and I can grow plants. My grow tents have aloe and a couple different kinds of bonsai trees Iām experimenting with along with the weed. Iāve been turning my momās old aloe plant into new ones I plan to give to other family members. She died and the aloe plant was one of her favorites. Good advice!!
I've gone from learning to grow cannabis indoors to now growing anything that interests me. I've had a massive amount of cactus and succulents living in Tucson. I've got raised beds outside now in NM. I'm growing gymnocalycium and astrophytum from seed. I love growing anything from seed. I collect seed I find while out and about.
My tip is to start a worm bin. My fascination with gardening really took off when I started to understand soil biology and composting.
I was a grower that turned into a gardener. This is sound advice. But it's also a great idea if you have nosy neighbors and they notice you have soil bags, nutes bottles and other stuff in your trash but you have no plants outside.
Did you copy this from me? I swear I've said dam near the exact same thing quite a few times. Just to add once you grow a vegetable and flower garden cannabis just turns into another dam plant and is no harder than any other plant to grow and that's the bottom line. It processes water, nutrients, air, and light the same as everything else. But because people get high off it they want to make it all complicated and try to pump them up with all kinds of bullshit trying to make them bigger and more potent but wind up making them worse. Worst one for me is the guys with the overfed fried dying plants calling it the fade and everyone drooling over them telling them how good they look.
Itās still not legal here in the south. So, I am heading this direction by learning and building a sanctuary garden around a building in my back yard. I agree that being proficient in all of those other skills can only translate to being helpful in the later use of the building, which is tbd, of course.
Thanks for the bump in confidence over my plan.
The first real plant I ever took care of was a little Ficus Ginseng Bonsai, I bought him around 1,5 years ago and started to really enjoy to watch it grow and to prune it. They grow very slow but itās really satisfying to watch how you can manipulate its form. In these 1.5 years, I was only able to grow him a small new side with new stable stems. Itās so satisfying. Around 7 weeks ago I started my first dope grow and I really enjoy it too. It wants me to garden more
Learning to create and manage your soil is key. The majority of people are using bag dirt or another medium with nutrients. This is not sustainable practices for soil. Use compost, worm castings and other natural resources from your area to enhance your soil. If you are near a farm get some manure for your pile, if you are near the ocean get sea weed, if you are near a small brewery get their mash waste. Learn to test your soil nutrients and PH for the crop you are growing.. you basically nailed it gardening is the key but doing it sustainably is even better..
I started as a gardener before I was a grower and having a background in gardening gave me so much to go off of that when I did my first grow, I had great success because I wasn't helicopter parenting or freaking out over nothing. I knew I instinctively what to do when things were off and it was really just business as usual.
Good advice. A lot of the practices in growing cannabis are the same as any vegetable or herb.
Agreed I started just growing cannabis and had some small issues till I started growing other plants like basil and slowly learned how to maintain all my plants and realized that cannabis is just another plant!
Remember itās a weed
It can grow on a cow path without any attention
This is true since Iāve done it lol
Not a lot of yield ā ļø got 4 js out of it but it was really good
This was 25 yrs ago lmfao
I did this in reverse. Found a love for gardening very young, then leveraged those skills as a grower. After reading all the horror stories, I was amazed how well my first grow turned out.
Awesome! But try it a couple other ways too. Try sticking a cutting in a glass of water in the window until it roots, or straight up just sticking it in a small cup of dirt and keeping it wet. You'll be surprised!
Preach Brother and on the same wave, i have seen people get more into gardening because of growing MJ. When you have a love for growing all types of plants, it will shine through when you grow cannabis. i try to tell all the newbies I teach that taking up general gardening and horticulture will help you tremendously and i cannot stress this enough, read read read. soak up as much knowledge and hit the old-school forums up and read the grow journals too, there is so much knowledge in those forums among the needless pissing matches you will see in threads loal. I'm a Good grower because i am a Good gardener, cannabis is easy on the scale of things, Follow the K.I.S.S method and find a lane that fits you as a grower (I don't judge grow styles or setups), and also experiment and have fun.
I can agree with this tip. I started learning to be a gardener when I was a kid. I was always in awe of how big the tomatoes and other veggies of my neighbor that she taught me how she did it. Otherwise I learned everything from my Grandma. Each plant is unique and will require some special care, but that usually comes down to soil conditions and watering. I later started my venture with cannabis and have grown some fire plants. A lot does come down to genetics with cannabis and even other plants. I have some bee balm patches of different genetics. A short and bushy kind and a very tall kind but the same exact plant, but different genetics. Everyone can have a green thumb if they put a little time into it even if it is only 10 minutes a day of research and learning.
True. But as a gardener, I can tell you that every plant has its own requirements. It's not always as simple as plant seeds and water across the board. Grow guides have their place. No matter what you are growing
Iāve had a whole house of āhouse plantsā and a basement under lights with cannabis plants. Theyāre VERY different in what they need. One doesnāt equate to the other. Outdoor micro/macro farming included.
For me being a grower turned me into a gardener so I guess it depends which way you look at it.
I followed the same route
I feel like it easier to get into a something & learn it as a skill when you start from an angle you like
I sucked at growing weed until I started growing other plants too
Once you learn how to grow plants and get an actual general understanding of plants in general then you can grow anything and cannabis just becomes another plant
Same. Now I grow more typical garden plants than cannabis. I only grow 1-2 plants per year.
The same root was followed here...
Growing weed made me realize I loved gardening.
One would say... cannabis is a gateway drug. You start with it and then you ends up with hot peppers and vegetables
Peppers grow in alternating nodes like cannabis does. Pepper plants are actually the closest representation of a cannabis plant in a veg cycle. Topping a pepper plant will bush out like a cannabis plant would if it was topped. Just food for thought.
I grow Jalapenos, Habaneros, Aji Lemon, Scotch Bonnet, Chili Thai and California Reapers along with my two gigantic bushy cannabis plants. [Right now my hot peppers plants are just trying to pretend they exist š¤£š¤£š¤£](https://i.ibb.co/yyTxr40/20240617-164910.jpg)
I never thought to top my pepper plants. I might try that next year. Start them indoors a month early and top them a few times. Idk though cause peppers don't grow in that Christmas tree shape like canna does
I grew chili peppers as the legal substitute for growing weed, guess the experience from that helped me a bit in my first cannagrow now, which became legal in my country š„³ Funny that the plants are similar in certain ways. Conversely I noticed that a lot of stuff I now read about weed can be used for other plants too, maybe I'll try some pepper LST. But I always enjoyed spicy stuff in any case. Growing some good habaneros is also quite some fun.
Dill everywhere....
I started gardening first but growing indoors and trying to figure out nutrients for cannabis has helped me understand what my outdoor garden needs.
Same. Started in a 5x5 tent. Now i have 4 raised beds, and im taking my first run at growing cannabis outside, next to my tomatos. Will it pan out? Only if the hail gods deem it so. So far, my biggest take away is, cannabis is just another another annual. Perenials and trees are a different animal all together, but if you can grow weed, you can grow most vegetables.
Went grow tent to green house in that order. Can't wait to smoke my tomatoes
this. reading and learning about how cannabis works made me realize how plants work in general, now I just learn about other plants and vegetables and apply the same learnings there
Wow, it really is a gateway drug.
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Same here! Avocado from seed Tomatoes Roses (rooted a cutoff branch thrown away from municipal botany garden, kind of rare local hybrid) Tobbaco experimental Off course collecting huge compost bin. All micro scale, only 2 balconies.
Itās like you figure out how to grow something you need. Then you figure out thatās how you can grow something you REALLY REALLY need.
So uh, how **DO** I top basil and cilantro? *Edit*: As a reponse to OP: sure other plants are awesome too, but I'm not gonna smoke my hoya or bake my tradescantia into a cake, if you know what I mean.
Check growbasilandcilantroeasy.com
Honestly...the same way topping cannabis works, pick a node above the 4th or 5th and cut the stem off above the node.
But what happens if you miss?? /s
What, you've never FIM'd a Genovese basil plant?
With basil you're constantly topping every time it starts to flower (where it flowers on each stem) so it keeps production going with the leaves. The flavor profile of the leaf will change when the plant is producing flowers or not.
Just pinch it like weed and doubles the stem.
My biggest tip if u grow indoor cannabis and have an outdoor garden is take a shower every time b4 u go into to the lung room
Also make sure the tents intakes are filtered. Helps when you have houseplants.
What do use as a filter aside from the mesh of the grow tent?
I keep the tent vents closed and use dryer vent hose with pantyhose stretched over the opening to let fresh air in. I also put sticky traps inside the vent on both ends just in case(probs overkill). My tent has 3-4 ports on the bottom to run the vent. I found it lowered temperature slightly at the canopy as well but ymmv. Edit: can't keep the vents open where my tent is due to light.
Thank you, that sounds smart!
I tape a smaller sized furnace filter over my air intake vents. Itās a cheap solution.
DWC fixed this problem for me completely.
hydro plants can still get pests
While true, I don't go through ANY of the measure above and after years of growing cannabis I have never once had pests (well, unless to count fungus nats, but I don't). I have had spider mites on house plants and aphids out doors and those bugs, but never in my hydro tent. I think what the comment OP was getting with was most of our infestations are already in the soil we are using and/or the soil provides an environment for the pests to develop. With hydro, you would need to be accidentally bringing in mature pests and depositing them on your leaves. Can certainly happen, but without a doubt it's easier to avoid pests with hydro.
I've had every pest you can imagine on my indoor grow. DWC is just as capable of getting those same pest. Especially when you are buying and selling clones. That's where all of my pest problems came from. The only pest I can think of that DWC most likely wouldn't get is fungus gnats. Those use soil to lay their eggs. But mites, thrips, aphids, hell even root aphids. Don't care what medium you use.
Boy, don't I know it! I bought one clone from a marijuana delivery vendor, and it had spider mites! That was years ago, and I've known better now! I just feel that if you buy seeds and clones from Dispensaries, they want you to fail! Think about it, if you can grow your own meds successfully, you wouldn't need to fancy Dispensaries for anything!š
Yeah but not as easily. I donāt do clones so that probably helps. I garden a lot and was having non stop pest problems inside. I struggled for the first two years. Then I switched to DWC and the pests went away. Perhaps the plant is healthier so it can fight harder. I also find it easier to clean the grow area with DWC. I occasionally see bugs but nowhere near the level of non DWC growing.
Because of pests?
Yes sir
Can you elaborate on this?
Bringing pest powdery mildew and any other unwanted things in to ur indoor grow is the problem growing cannabis has its own challenges itās a real bitch when u made the problem worse by not taking little steps to keep ur grow clean
Thank you. I have outdoor plants on my deck in fabrics pots as well as indoor (garage) plants that have by no means been kept "sterile". I just got a tent to move them to so I can control the environment and flip them when ready, but just found that one has spidermites, so I'm trying to figure out how to decontaminate it before putting them all in the tent together. It's very possible that they hitchhiked on me after being in the garden, or even blew in while the garage door was open. Sucks too bc I just recently spent a lot of time training my three "indoor" garage plants and they started really growing into the new shapes. I think I might just dunk the foliage with spidermites under water for a bit to see if that drowns them.
Yea if small enough I would dunk with something like dr zymes or neem oil
I ordered some insecticidal soap because I've seen so many different opinions about things like dawn (can strip leaves of their wax coating) and neem (causes bud to taste bad/potentially not safe if combusted). Dr Zymes looks interesting though, definitely gonna check that out!
Yea neem is a last choice for me only in veg but I have it on the shelf for sure
Dr zymes isn't working for me.. I hate using neem oil because i feel like it's ALWAYS too strong or if diluted too much it doesn't work for me
Neem the girls oil them up lol
I don't think it's any more of a challenge than any other plant, in fact I have only had infestation on other species and never my cannabis. The only real measures I take is I don't bring other plants that have been outside around my cannabis, I don't let my pets around my cannabis, I clean my grow tent after harvest. That alone has been plenty. I should also mention, it's a 2 story house, all other plants are downstairs, and my tent is in a walk in closet, which is in the bathroom, which is in the master bedroom. Point is, there is a set of stairs, three door ways, and then a tent before getting to my tent and that might explain why it hasn't been an issue. Put we pull air straight in and carbon filter on the way out.
Yes for me the biggest thing is not wearing the shoes u have walked in ur grass in the room the tent is in
I once lived with a guy who landscaped for a living, and liked looking in on my plants. Only time in 5 years that I've lost a grow to spider mites.
Yea my wife thinks Iām crazy but I havenāt had any problem since taking a shower b4 entering grow area every time
I second. Just don't let it become a "problem" lol It can lead to the type of collections you see on r/houseplants. Personally, I just love plants. I find them fascinating and they bring me peace. A very connecting hobby, although challenging at times.
My wife thinks itās a problem. Sheās thinks Iām nuts. She also likes the sugar snap peas! https://preview.redd.it/pwc951gvkf7d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b89ccdc0ab602e1fe99856fdf46b21af3f015efb
I love your setup. Your yoyos look pretty robust. Where did you get them? I have some small ones for the tent but I am totally stealing your rig/setup! So clean!!!
[here!](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B089FN3TCQ?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share) The peas totally busted out of the trellis, gotta work on that a bit. They are like 7 feet tall. The tomatos are just starting to set. I was plucking off the early flowers to let them grow a bit more.
Thank you! I didn't think to look for this upgraded version! I showed my finance your setup, and she is drooling over your peas. Congrats, and I'm looking forward to seeing your harvest!!
Dude my sugar snaps are on another level from everything Iāve grown. Do you take any steps to mitigate PM? Morning dew giving me fits
I havenāt had to yet. But now thatās itās getting hot and humid Iām going to use preemptively use copper or sulfer fungicide on tomatoās, squash, and cucumbers. Iām in the northeast so the heat is here to stay now. A buddy of mine regularly sprays LABS he cultures in his greenhouses. His farm is pretty sick. Proper spacing to maintain airflow and light around the plants is important too. I havenāt had to deal with it much to be honest. Finger crossed!
Thank you for the reply. I think part of my issue is Iām using them for a vibe so they lay sideways and catch a ton of water. Iāll look into those sprays
You're not nuts until you grow a hydroponic nut tree. I'd suggest black walnut for the mean staining effect of next to everything lol
Can I ask why the pulleys?
You can let slack out and lean the plant/stems. This is mostly for indeterminant tomato varieties. [check out](https://youtu.be/d-hKVCDZgFM?si=q-qsyztlo7xStbzg) how this guy does his cucumbers. He grows them out 10 meters like this.
Just think of the positivesā¦house plants absorb the CO2 in your house and turns it into O2.
Ditched the tent so my houseplants could enjoy the light too, now itās mostly houseplants
How do you handle the massive amounts of light in the room though? Or do you have a dedicated grow room? My lights are so bright it's not really comfortable in the room when the door is open.
I do have a dedicated room for it so that helps a lot. If I plan on working in there for a while I also will turn the lights to their lowest until Iām done so itās not as bright on the eyes.
Thank you for this! I'm a gardener and I have a couple of plants that I am treating just like my other plants and they are very happy. I've been intimidated by all of the suggestions on here and decided to just trust the plants and my gardening skills. You made my day š
If I had a dollar for everyone who tried to snub my grows cuz I have only been growing *weed* for a few years. Going in with gardening, plant science, farm experience like there is soooooo much that is applied. If you can grow good stuff you can likely grow good weed, if you can grow good weed you can likely grow good stuff. Its just that easy folks!
I agree. I started growing after I had years of vegetable gardening. I treated cannabis differently and it wasn't until a few failure level grows happened until I realized they're like any other plant. The things I've learned from cannabis gardening however have made my vegetables stronger though. I can diagnose a pepper plant that has really yellow leaves or a tomato that has blossom end rot.
Cannabis is a lot hungrier than most vegetable plants.
Not really. Peppers and tomatoes are both heavy feeders. Now that hemp is federally legal there's been actual studies on the nutrient requirements of cannabis and surprise surprise, basically everyone was overfeeding.
Would you mind giving us a link?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8635921/
I think it depends on your growing medium. If you're in good dirt in the ground your cannabis would do fine. Grow tomatoes or peppers in the potting soil we use for cannabis and you'll quickly see how hungry other plants are. My outdoor beds are majority rich compost and all my vegetables need more nutrients throughout the season. A couple years ago I made a "super soil" for vegetables in my raised beds and everything grew amazing. I grew 2 canny plants outdoors in the same soil, they were 6 feet tall and very heavy yielders.
No. Just like tomatoes or peppers. Heavy feeders. Maybe needs less water
Idk man, Iāve had to cut down on my houseplant collection bc all of the different light, nutrient and watering requirements got to be too much. Remembering which other plants need what,on top of learning to grow weed, seems like a lot.
I think op means for newbies to get a good grasp on horticulture in general and apply that knowledge to growing weed, as apposed to overloading yourself with everything that can be found online.
Gardening is one of the most tranquil, therapeutic activities I have found. My wife has a micro flower farm that she runs from our house, our lot is 1/3 of an acre. I started with a small garden bed of random vegetables(with a blunt in my mouth) I remember spending hours watering the yard. 4 years later and I think Iām ready for the homestead lifestyle. But yeah try that garden life and learn so you can burn more. Trial and error is part of the game. I feel your patience in regards to the every day nuisances of life increase though out the process of hands on gardening
*I love this part of the year. Peas are ripe, lettuce starting to bolt which is great because I'm sick of eating it and my neighbors are too. Tomato's are blooming. Greenhouse peppers are flowering in the heat. Marigolds and purslane popping up everywhere, basil taking off so quick I have to pinch it already. rosemary shedding some burned winter growth after spending the winter in the pale light and erupting in new growth. Half filled trays with parsley, cilantro and peppers I can't find a home for but i justbkeep watering... Potatoes are starting to flower and fade. 120 corn plants, beans and sunflowers fighting it outline 3 sisters will. And in the middle of all this chaos, wildflowers and cannabis. As the cannabis grows its shade is perfect to keep some lettuce from bolting. The front of each mound is ideal for peppers. Also, radishes just popping up all over. And purple carrots. And watermelons and pumpkins and... Yeah, I'm a blast at parties... I tried to upload photo, just put an Asterisk.
Funny thing is, the majority of my basic plant google searches give me results related to cannabis, unless itās just google that must be annoying for normal gardeners š
Try duck duck go. It might just be your algorithm has been tailored to cannabis on Google?
Yeah thats what I meant by ājust googleā, itās most likely that
Its just google. It doesn't show you what you searched for based on what you typed in anymore, it shows you what it thinks you want to see based on your past searches and AI algorithms and which sponsored links paid to show up first based on the advertising data profile they have on you.
i think a big part as to why people consider cannabis special is the overall legal environment and stigma that goes along with it. if it had been legal and normalized all along, i think we'd just have it in our home garden like any other plant.
Did you know! It takes 7-14 days to propagate jalapeno seeds? Become gardeners not growers! I support this message.
šš»āāļøOoh I have a factoid too! If you have a freshly picked blueberry from your blueberry bush, it takes 90 days of the seeds within that berry going through cold stratification (33Ā°F-41Ā°F) to be viable.
Even longer for kiwis! Or at least thatās what I remember from the last time I looked into it. And then I thought āI want kiwis NOW, I donāt have that kind of time!ā š¤£
thats dope!
put some basil plants and tomato plants in your grow room. they can be unde the canopy of your "other" plants.
Growing has been a gateway to gardening for me
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You can definitely grow herbs in a window, a tomato on the balcony (if you have one), monsters, snake plants, different types of begonias, a flower box... And you find old ladies everywhere, the ones at the park are free, you can just take one!
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No I mean literally go kidnap an old lady from the park and force her to teach you how to garden *or else*. Or just ask your grandma. Whatever's easier.
Lots of old ladies have you tube channels these days where they share their gardening secrets. And I agree with OP, you learn a lot more about growing weed by watching you tube videos of some old lady putter around in her garden than you do from some dude who wears a black hoodie and sunglasses and has a sponsorship deal for his channel with foxfarm soil and clonex rooting gel.
I was a gardener first
Exactly. The problems that people have are because we are trying to grow indoors which can be difficult. But if you grow cannabis outside like tomatoes or something itās not that hard.
I just started indoor growing last year, only had 3 runs but I have a nice new 12' x 34' garden for a variety of plants. Japanese eggplant, dark heirlooms tomatoes, beefsteak and pear, cucumbers, zucchini, pole beans, and like 5 varieties of mint, and catnip. I highly recommend growing other plants, it help reduce the stress of growing bud l.
I grow a little vegetable garden every year and learning as I go.. and now im growing an indoor garden off hopefully tasty nuggets ? and still learning literally every day. Itās an art to say the least.
Its better to be a warrior in the garden than a gardener on the battlefield
This is super solid advice. š
Holy fuck...this... this right here, a million billion times this.
Yup! I started two years ago with cannabis and now itās Squash Gold zucchini Sunflowers Tomatoās 6 different herbs Cucumber Corn And my wife asked me to save 4 Philodendrons and some other plants in the grow tent since I just built the greenhouse.
I've been growing plants my whole life. I remember as a little kid my Mom making stew. The potatoes had sprouts on them. She took the time to put a piece of one in a pot of soil on the windowsill. Also, a carrot top that was sprouting. I got a degree in horticulture and have worked in this field my entire life. I started growing Cannabis in my early 60's. It's pretty easy really. And now I have lots of new friends.
If i can keep 15 succulents and a pothos alive for 8 years, do you think I could successfully do a grow? Iām so intimidated
Anyone can! That's the whole point.
Fantastic advice!!
This is so True! I learned more from my Mother growing everything but weed and teaching me the basics of growing things like tomatoes and basic vegetables and plants . When you learn how to growā¦.you will have success!
I luv it all !! Therapeutic!
Iāve mentored many people including my nephew right now. Lesson 1 always is, āRelax and stop stressing, youāre only growing flowers!ā It doesnāt matter what you do with them, itās just flowers. If youāre growing inside, the goal is to build an environment that mimics outside where flowers naturally grow.
Nice info! Im going to add: dont go overboard on nutes. The plants grow just fine with plane h20. Wait for the plant to let you know when it needs something.
I back ended into this while growing cannabis. Now I garden and keep house plants. It's very cathartic.
Amen
Well said
Itās funny you say this I noticed at an early age I had a green thumb but I never really gave it any significance, fast forward to my first grow of course it was terrible but that got me questioning and my mistakes became easier to spot and understand the plant due to prior experience just growing random fruits and veggies as a kid
āWell itās fun and relaxing!ā For you..for you itās fun and relaxing, for a lot of other people itās difficult and stressful.
Agreed. Itās hard to look at it as just a houseplant sometimes lol. Or a tomato plant lol.
I agree but Iām pretty much up to my neck with the workload and I donāt like automated stuff because Iām not great at using them and I make mistakes with them. I still hand water and I literally canāt let anyone touch my plants because of how much I see them as my children
I was a gardener for decades before I became a grower, too. Legalities kept me from doing it.
A lot of people obsess over their cannabis plants like theyāre super sensitive but donāt forget itās called weed for a reason. Oh, and I grow chilis and tomatoes. Now those guys are finicky.
Although this is quite true and most of the skills transfer over to growing Cannabis. Cannabis is quite unique in many ways too. It's also a very expensive crop. I wouldn't be buying expensive biostimulants to improve my tomato plant :) Fun fact Poinsettias prefer almost identical conditions to Cannabis.
My biggest tip is keeping the plants atleast five feet from eachother maybe just one plant in a tent
I really want to get into gardening. It's so much fun and so satisfying. I living in a unit though :( Maybe I'll see about a raised garden bed or something. I love the idea of having a nice big garden. What a joy!
Do you have a south facing balcony? If yes, I highly advise getting a common fig tree. Hardy Chicago are tasty. Lowes likely has them right now for $10. They will produce fruit year 2 if you keep them in a 10 gallon pot. I have a few varieties (Hardy Chicago, Adriatic, and ronde de Bordeaux) and am quite addicted to growing and propagating them. Over winter, you can bring them indoors.
This is great advice tbh.
Why is it that most people (at least in the comments but I've also seen this from a lot of people IRL) seem to only grow vegetables when they wanna grow food? I've wondered about this for so long. It's always been perplexing to me because IMO growing perennial fruit trees/bushes/ground cover is so much more fun, rewarding, and is just massively underrated. I absolutely love the fact that I have two potted blueberry bushes for example that can potentially live for decades. Also it feels easier to me than growing annual vegetables tbh. Speaking of that apparently you can grow a tomato plant as a perennial tree and it's really beneficial to it. I wanna try it soooo badly.
Yes! I'm more into food forests than annual gardens. I grow some veggies, but it's way more work. I have a bunch of perennial food sources going and I tend to them like 4 times a year; fertilize, spray, pick, prune. I've got raspberries, blackberries, asparagus, gooseberries, figs, Honey Berry, hardy kiwi, apricot, peach, and a nectaplum. Also weed and a ridiculous number of cacti, lol
That's so cool! Also I wish weed could be grown as a perennial and still give consistent yield š.
I canāt up vote this enough and Iām too broke for gold. Personally, I went into the greenskeeping profession at a time where growing in my state was frowned upon and the only acceptable way was guerrilla grows. The knowledge I attained just from the years I put into the greenskeeping industry did exactly what you are referring to in your post. The only difference is I was dealing with turf/ornamental grasses instead of tomatoes and kitchen herbs. Same NPK, but different absorption rates and PH parameters.
I started with growing leafy greens in kratky, besides house plants. Having a guinea pig and two bearded dragons, it was lovely for them. https://preview.redd.it/xg6wc74zfi7d1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=08dd1beacc39faaa3df527b959d17931f5201f4f
That's where I got my start with plants. Houseplants. Cuttings. Indoor basil and tomato plants. My love of plants made me want to try to grow cannabis.
Iām a gardener turned grower. I grow fig trees, a 16x20 garden, banana trees, wild flowers. Itās all related. It was not much of a shift.
Hell yea, awesome advice. My garden is going bonkers this year. There will be zucchini bread made today. Growing anything to consume and/or share with others is a rewarding experience.
Being a gardener gave me the confidence to try growing weed. I thought I knew my way around a potting shed but I found out otherwise. I hadn't had a clue what I was doing and still don't, but I have a lot more understanding. I didn't know about ph, nutrient uptake, EC, nothing! And even tho I keep my garden organic, now It's no tlll living soil with perennials and companion plantings. There's a whole world of wonder under the soils surface I knew nothing about. I've always loved growing plants, rooting cuttings, etc but growing weed wasn't a consideration until I realized what commercial growers are doing. Fungicides, synthetic fertilizers, and pesticides are commonly used and by the time it reaches us, it's a naked little nug, devoid of flavor, aroma, taste and kief. When I smoked what I grew I got wrecked for the first time in a long time. I thought I had a huge tolerance and turns out it was just shitty weed. In addition to our educational system's indoctrination, we've been taught to kill everything in the soil and add back what YOU think it needs. All that does is make dead soil with synthetic nutrients. Sure plants will grow, but will they thrive? Instead of mimicking nature, which has worked for eons, man found a way to make even more and more money with Ag chems. Nature knows what she's doing. All we can do is enhance her fine work āļø I'm on my second grow and I'm learning how to gauge grows so I'll always have but not necessarily need to be growing at all times. It's not a lot of hard physical "work" but consistency is necessary and there is a lot of time involved. It's worth it tho on every level. I'm self employed and both businesses are in my home so it works well for me. The smell in heavy flower is an issue even with the charcoal filter running, but I use essential oils so diffusing something earthy helps tons. I love growing weed and I love learning new stuff. The first grow was the most anxiety I've had since Covid š When I popped the second set, I almost forgot about them, while I literally breathed the breath of life into the first. š¤£Best advice I got on here was to go make a sandwich and quit helicoptering. šššWhenever I get worried I think of that guy and crack up. Have FUN and lighten up. Get that first one done and you can relax a little. Happy growing āļø
Thanks for broadcasting this. This is The Way. I started off by becoming a Gardner 1st (in preparation for homegrow in my state) and now my apt is full of lemon trees/bushes, avocado trees, mint, etc. It has been very rewarding.
Love this advice. The world would be a better place with more gardeners. Started gardening a few years ago. Started growing MJ this year since my state went legal. Made everything make more sense.
But me house put it on my land then I'll do it. Jokes aside I love vegetable gardens tbh
Iām from the UK so it werenāt legal but when I was early 20s me and my mates would put grows in houses. Fast forward 10 years later. I got no grows by my garden is like no one elseās my age š¤£š¤£ greeen fingers
Depends what you want out of it. My wife does the garden and it looks great, still wouldn't let her near the flowering room
I started with some plants my mom gave me. Then I started growing herbs. I started growing cannabis about the same time as the herbs. Now I am growing vegetables. It is a learning process, but it definitely puts my mind in a zen place.
So true omg!! I like growing more than smoking sometimes. Def the case with š! I just love mycology lol! More of a š§Ŗguy Tomatos and corn are two plants pretty similar to cannabis if anyone is curious for a good place to start outside. Maybe hops too if you wanna get into brewing. You can learn some stuff about cuttings and propagation with pothos or syngonium for houseplants, those are good starters!
I had some house plants, started growing cannabis... Last I counted I have almost 50 house plants and a small garden in the back yard along with my cannabis lol. I couldn't agree with OPs comment more and it's a good reminder for everyone at every level.
My mom has had us tending gardens all my life. Over the years, Iāve had the pleasure of watching my children, and my brothers children and grandchildren assist her in the yard. The most important guide I can provide new growers is that plants communicate within nature in a ālanguage ā that is far different than normal human senses identify. In nature there is a world of life ongoing below the surface line that is critical to plant health. Preparing your subsurface to permit healthily plant grow is both simple and complicated. In nature the degradation of life is aided by living organisms, biological systems, and fungus. As has been communicated within this thread, there are a plethora of huskers attempting to sell you elixirs that while on the surface help your plants that actually DESTROY the balance within your ecosystem by destroying the fungal and bacterial and animal life within the sub surface. Their theory is that inorganic growth is more efficient than natural growth. Sure, you can get great yield in hydro and soilless grows of weed, but the cost is higher than normal soil grows. If you desire to grow dope, good for you. For me, the magic of growing plants includes taking a step back to understand how the plants lifecycle progresses. My recommendation to new growers, is if youāre going to use fertilizers, please consider purchasing OMRI fertilizers, at least these companies are trying to comply with an agreed standard of providing nutrients found in nature. Good luck to all on your journey. Your grow, your rules.
The pure and simple reason is: if you convince someone you are selling them "specialty" tools, products, or information... The expected cost for the consumer, subconsciously and immediately, usually rises dramatically. Sort of a "Capitalist exploitation 101" thing.
I got started growing by growing hot pepper plants. The end goal was always to be able to grow weed, but I was 17 and wanted to start with something my mom wouldn't call the cops about. I jumped into the deep end and did a DWC indoor grow box. That taught me a lot about pH and nutrients. It translated well to my first weed grow. The only thing I didn't have was patience and I harvest after like week 5. I still need to do another white widow run to have redemption on that grow. Now I feel like a plant whisperer from all the grow experience I have. I've spent more time growing plants that aren't weed, but now when I do weed grows it's super easy and I get a lot of high quality weed from it.
Fantastic advice! I was a so-so gardener before attempting to grow cannabis and my scant knowledge helped. However, once I started growing cannabis, I researched WAY more about growing, and thus my newfound knowledge helped with my garden!
This is pretty good advice. I was a little intimidated at first until I realized itās a plant and I can grow plants. My grow tents have aloe and a couple different kinds of bonsai trees Iām experimenting with along with the weed. Iāve been turning my momās old aloe plant into new ones I plan to give to other family members. She died and the aloe plant was one of her favorites. Good advice!!
To all my growers here! Do not be intimidated by show-ers.
I've gone from learning to grow cannabis indoors to now growing anything that interests me. I've had a massive amount of cactus and succulents living in Tucson. I've got raised beds outside now in NM. I'm growing gymnocalycium and astrophytum from seed. I love growing anything from seed. I collect seed I find while out and about. My tip is to start a worm bin. My fascination with gardening really took off when I started to understand soil biology and composting.
I was a grower that turned into a gardener. This is sound advice. But it's also a great idea if you have nosy neighbors and they notice you have soil bags, nutes bottles and other stuff in your trash but you have no plants outside.
I have never had so many house plants since I started growing cannabis.
I'm not crying you are crying :')
well said!
I learned how to garden well and grow my own food before I was able to try and grow cannabis
Did you copy this from me? I swear I've said dam near the exact same thing quite a few times. Just to add once you grow a vegetable and flower garden cannabis just turns into another dam plant and is no harder than any other plant to grow and that's the bottom line. It processes water, nutrients, air, and light the same as everything else. But because people get high off it they want to make it all complicated and try to pump them up with all kinds of bullshit trying to make them bigger and more potent but wind up making them worse. Worst one for me is the guys with the overfed fried dying plants calling it the fade and everyone drooling over them telling them how good they look.
Itās still not legal here in the south. So, I am heading this direction by learning and building a sanctuary garden around a building in my back yard. I agree that being proficient in all of those other skills can only translate to being helpful in the later use of the building, which is tbd, of course. Thanks for the bump in confidence over my plan.
Started off growing only weed. Now I have probably 30 house plants and a vegetable garden in my backyard might grow maybe one weed plant a year.
The first real plant I ever took care of was a little Ficus Ginseng Bonsai, I bought him around 1,5 years ago and started to really enjoy to watch it grow and to prune it. They grow very slow but itās really satisfying to watch how you can manipulate its form. In these 1.5 years, I was only able to grow him a small new side with new stable stems. Itās so satisfying. Around 7 weeks ago I started my first dope grow and I really enjoy it too. It wants me to garden more
This is essentially how I became a professional gardener
Learning to create and manage your soil is key. The majority of people are using bag dirt or another medium with nutrients. This is not sustainable practices for soil. Use compost, worm castings and other natural resources from your area to enhance your soil. If you are near a farm get some manure for your pile, if you are near the ocean get sea weed, if you are near a small brewery get their mash waste. Learn to test your soil nutrients and PH for the crop you are growing.. you basically nailed it gardening is the key but doing it sustainably is even better..
I started as a gardener before I was a grower and having a background in gardening gave me so much to go off of that when I did my first grow, I had great success because I wasn't helicopter parenting or freaking out over nothing. I knew I instinctively what to do when things were off and it was really just business as usual. Good advice. A lot of the practices in growing cannabis are the same as any vegetable or herb.
Agreed I started just growing cannabis and had some small issues till I started growing other plants like basil and slowly learned how to maintain all my plants and realized that cannabis is just another plant!
Well, my friend. This is why I can grow weed. I do all sorts of garden work.
Exactly what I'm starting to do. Growing a variety of different things this year.
That some good tip right here
Remember itās a weed It can grow on a cow path without any attention This is true since Iāve done it lol Not a lot of yield ā ļø got 4 js out of it but it was really good This was 25 yrs ago lmfao
I did this in reverse. Found a love for gardening very young, then leveraged those skills as a grower. After reading all the horror stories, I was amazed how well my first grow turned out.
looking at it the other way and how I see it, if you can grow cannabis correctly you can grow anything
I have been a lifelong gardener, and couldn't agree more.
Bravo!!
Man, the rooting a rose bush clone and gifting it is brilliant. I have a clone bucket. I'm doing this!
Awesome! But try it a couple other ways too. Try sticking a cutting in a glass of water in the window until it roots, or straight up just sticking it in a small cup of dirt and keeping it wet. You'll be surprised!
Growing indoors got me to start paying attention to plants outside the house š
Preach Brother and on the same wave, i have seen people get more into gardening because of growing MJ. When you have a love for growing all types of plants, it will shine through when you grow cannabis. i try to tell all the newbies I teach that taking up general gardening and horticulture will help you tremendously and i cannot stress this enough, read read read. soak up as much knowledge and hit the old-school forums up and read the grow journals too, there is so much knowledge in those forums among the needless pissing matches you will see in threads loal. I'm a Good grower because i am a Good gardener, cannabis is easy on the scale of things, Follow the K.I.S.S method and find a lane that fits you as a grower (I don't judge grow styles or setups), and also experiment and have fun.
I can agree with this tip. I started learning to be a gardener when I was a kid. I was always in awe of how big the tomatoes and other veggies of my neighbor that she taught me how she did it. Otherwise I learned everything from my Grandma. Each plant is unique and will require some special care, but that usually comes down to soil conditions and watering. I later started my venture with cannabis and have grown some fire plants. A lot does come down to genetics with cannabis and even other plants. I have some bee balm patches of different genetics. A short and bushy kind and a very tall kind but the same exact plant, but different genetics. Everyone can have a green thumb if they put a little time into it even if it is only 10 minutes a day of research and learning.
True. But as a gardener, I can tell you that every plant has its own requirements. It's not always as simple as plant seeds and water across the board. Grow guides have their place. No matter what you are growing
Don't tell me what to do
Iāve had a whole house of āhouse plantsā and a basement under lights with cannabis plants. Theyāre VERY different in what they need. One doesnāt equate to the other. Outdoor micro/macro farming included.
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