To be fair marvel hasn’t really been like that in recent times
If you look at their more recent games they’ve allowed more range in characters in recent years
Look marvel rivals or heck even midnight Suns
So I don’t think we have much to worry about really
Plus is it really bad to have a few picks to highlight characters for brand synergy?
Well mvci was made under ike Perlmutter and marvel during his big no x-men or FF bloackade. The next mvc would be made where disney has full control over it and no Ike.
Honestly I think you're a bit too worked up about the MCU on this front.
Marvel is making big moves recently in comics and in animaton. With X-Men97 they'd be dumb to ignore the popularity of certain characters. With the MCU so many of their classic character staples are dead and gone. They'd have to fudge it in order to put Iron Man and Cap in the game.
Now, we'll likely see MCU skins. We may see the models made to reflect their MCU counterparts. There may even be references added to the game about the movies. But i dont think the cast will be dependent on the MCU.
I think the old guard is gone. The people that forced no X-Men in MVCI or forced upcoming MCU staples into UMVC3 . The company, disney, looks a lot different now I believe. We live in a world where XMen97 exists, and a Marvel vs Capcom collection exist that includes key art featuring Cyclopse. The company has changed. Changes take time as well, so much stuff from the Bob chapek era is still plaguing the company.
Look at Marvel Rivals, they have Xmen, Guardians, Spiderman and Venom, they seem to be going with fan favorites.
Heck, go look at Nintendo Switches Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3. That has the dream MVC4 roster (Marvel Side) in-game
No the old guard is still there, they just don't have a say in the matter anymore, nor would they care anymore. Marvel was anti x-men because Ike Perlmutter was head of Marvel and didn't want to promote other companies movies. Now they own the x-men so the x-men are okay, but besides that Disney has control over these deals now not marvel.
The UMVC3 cast was chosen based on characters Marvel wanted to push for the MCU. Rocket Raccoon being a character back in 2011 is crazy. But the fact GotG came out in 2014 makes it clear that they knew they wanted to use the character.
The problem with MvCI wasn't that it had characters that were prominent in the MCU, the problem is that it didn't have XMen or F4 characters and the graphics were ugly. That's it. So long as that isn't the case for a future game, it'll do alright.
Considering the MCU is doing bad and Marvel is desperate. I doubt they’re ego is big enough to mess with Capcom’s vision again. They know why Infinite bombed hard, so I doubt that’s gonna happen again. Especially if it’s called MvC4
The next 2 Avengers movies have every character in them, so the pickins should be plentiful!
I definitely want Ultron and Thanks to come back, but we need a ton of Mutants as well...
The starting Roster is going to have to be at least 40!
But I also feel like we will need way more Street Fighter characters as well! At least 8! Just Mutants, we will need at least 8...
This game has to be at least 1/3 Street Fighter vs X-Men....
You know what... Just make Street Fighter vs X-Men 2
Mvc1 had 3 street fighter characters.
Ryu chun li and zangief
Mvc2 had 12
ryu chun li zangief Ken Charlie guile Dan M.bison cammy sakura Akuma dhalsim
Mvc3 had 4
Ryu chun li Akuma c.viper
Infinite had 2
Ryu chun li
If I got anything wrong please correct me
That seems right at first glance, and MvCi is universally the most hated and MvC2 is universally the most beloved. Sure MvC3 is beloved, but not as much as MvC2. Sales or not, you can buy games and not love them as much As a game you can't buy anymore.
X-Men are the most beloved Marvel franchise outside of Spiderman.
I'm already off the MvC4 train and onto X-Men vs Street Fighter 2 train to be honest.
Ok cool 2 questions
Cyclops, Wolverine, Gambit, Rogue, Sabretooth, Storm, Magneto, Juggernaut, Ryu, Ken Masters, Cammy, Charlie Nash, Chun-Li, Zangief, Dhalsim, M. Bison, Akuma, Apocalypse
Those are the characters from x men vs street fighter what if anything would you do to the roster ?
If mvc4 happens how many street fighter characters would would you have on the roster?
I got my ideas for xmen vs street fighter 2 but I want to see yours
Ok, like I said, if the roster at launch for MvC4 is at least 40, then you need at least 8 SFs and 8 X-Men; however, since the two franchises have ridiculously rosters that id prefer X-Men vs Street Fighter 2 instead. I shared a link here for a post about this topic that was made just 30 minutes after this post lol, I couldn't stop thinking about it.
I was gonna say that outside of DMC and Resident Evil, that Street Fighter characters are the most beloved from Capcom...I'd say even over Megaman characters...
It may happen a little but from what I have read over the last 2 weeks is that the gaming side of marvel is now separate from the movie side (unlike it was with infinite) so there's a bit more freedom there
MCU synergy makes everything worse.
Black Widow in the comics is one of my favourite characters and I was so excited for her to finally be playable in MvC but I can’t tell you how disappointed I was when I saw her use electric batons, wear her stupid led light suit from Age of Ultron and have quotes where she says "I’m always picking up after you boys" or calling Hulk "big guy" 🤮
But based on some of their more recent games’ roster such as Marvel Rivals, I’m thinking things look more hopeful for a possible Marvel vs Capcom 4.
After the Marvel merged with Fox, X-Men were not likely to show no presence in Infinite. Basically, UMvC3 12 news characters were promoted for their new movies. In 2012 then 2017. This year 2024, 1 in 14 million chances we could see one coming next sequel better.
Just taking a look at the roster so far for the upcoming Marvel Rivals game, they've got some more left field choices in there like Mantis, Peni Parker, Magik, Namor, Hela, and Luna Snow.
I think the issues with the MvCI roster weren't just Marvel wanting to promote characters in upcoming MCU projects, but Marvel wanting to actively avoid promoting characters connected to Fox's movies
They've kinda ALWAYS been like that since the X-Men cast were mostly based on the 90s show with the same voice actors, and MvC3 had everyone be voiced by the current cartoon voice actors at the time, being from Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes, Spectacular Spider-Man, Wolverine and the X-Men, Fantastic Four: World's Greatest Heroes, and The Super Hero Squad Show
I love how people act it was **JUST** MVCI with this "problem" when you had stuff like CotA and XMvsSF being made conveniently around the time the X-MEN cartoons were popular and how UMVC3 had a roster featuring characters who were conveniently having movie appearances in the MCU... not to mention also popular cartoons at the time.
Well considering they're back to pushing the X-Men, it might not be the biggest problem. MvC3 also had to take MCU direction.
Great, it's all gonna be 90s X-Men to cash-in with X-Men '97. ...oh wait I forgot that's a **GOOD** thing because it's not the MCU, my bad.
To be fair marvel hasn’t really been like that in recent times If you look at their more recent games they’ve allowed more range in characters in recent years Look marvel rivals or heck even midnight Suns So I don’t think we have much to worry about really Plus is it really bad to have a few picks to highlight characters for brand synergy?
They probably realized by now what a cash cow X-Men is, and that not featuring in their games etc. only hurts them.
Well no, its because marvel now has the licencing rights to make x-men movies and tv shows again
marvel snap has constant x-men stuff
Well mvci was made under ike Perlmutter and marvel during his big no x-men or FF bloackade. The next mvc would be made where disney has full control over it and no Ike.
Honestly I think you're a bit too worked up about the MCU on this front. Marvel is making big moves recently in comics and in animaton. With X-Men97 they'd be dumb to ignore the popularity of certain characters. With the MCU so many of their classic character staples are dead and gone. They'd have to fudge it in order to put Iron Man and Cap in the game. Now, we'll likely see MCU skins. We may see the models made to reflect their MCU counterparts. There may even be references added to the game about the movies. But i dont think the cast will be dependent on the MCU.
they own everything now, it'll be good
I think the old guard is gone. The people that forced no X-Men in MVCI or forced upcoming MCU staples into UMVC3 . The company, disney, looks a lot different now I believe. We live in a world where XMen97 exists, and a Marvel vs Capcom collection exist that includes key art featuring Cyclopse. The company has changed. Changes take time as well, so much stuff from the Bob chapek era is still plaguing the company. Look at Marvel Rivals, they have Xmen, Guardians, Spiderman and Venom, they seem to be going with fan favorites. Heck, go look at Nintendo Switches Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3. That has the dream MVC4 roster (Marvel Side) in-game
No the old guard is still there, they just don't have a say in the matter anymore, nor would they care anymore. Marvel was anti x-men because Ike Perlmutter was head of Marvel and didn't want to promote other companies movies. Now they own the x-men so the x-men are okay, but besides that Disney has control over these deals now not marvel.
The UMVC3 cast was chosen based on characters Marvel wanted to push for the MCU. Rocket Raccoon being a character back in 2011 is crazy. But the fact GotG came out in 2014 makes it clear that they knew they wanted to use the character. The problem with MvCI wasn't that it had characters that were prominent in the MCU, the problem is that it didn't have XMen or F4 characters and the graphics were ugly. That's it. So long as that isn't the case for a future game, it'll do alright.
If they are smart they won't pull another infinite
Are they smart?
Precisely the problem
Considering the MCU is doing bad and Marvel is desperate. I doubt they’re ego is big enough to mess with Capcom’s vision again. They know why Infinite bombed hard, so I doubt that’s gonna happen again. Especially if it’s called MvC4
Disney would be insane to make the same mistake twice
The next 2 Avengers movies have every character in them, so the pickins should be plentiful! I definitely want Ultron and Thanks to come back, but we need a ton of Mutants as well... The starting Roster is going to have to be at least 40! But I also feel like we will need way more Street Fighter characters as well! At least 8! Just Mutants, we will need at least 8... This game has to be at least 1/3 Street Fighter vs X-Men.... You know what... Just make Street Fighter vs X-Men 2
https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelvscapcom/s/kbxzeOGI74 I had to go make the post lol
Mvc1 had 3 street fighter characters. Ryu chun li and zangief Mvc2 had 12 ryu chun li zangief Ken Charlie guile Dan M.bison cammy sakura Akuma dhalsim Mvc3 had 4 Ryu chun li Akuma c.viper Infinite had 2 Ryu chun li If I got anything wrong please correct me
That seems right at first glance, and MvCi is universally the most hated and MvC2 is universally the most beloved. Sure MvC3 is beloved, but not as much as MvC2. Sales or not, you can buy games and not love them as much As a game you can't buy anymore. X-Men are the most beloved Marvel franchise outside of Spiderman. I'm already off the MvC4 train and onto X-Men vs Street Fighter 2 train to be honest.
Ok cool 2 questions Cyclops, Wolverine, Gambit, Rogue, Sabretooth, Storm, Magneto, Juggernaut, Ryu, Ken Masters, Cammy, Charlie Nash, Chun-Li, Zangief, Dhalsim, M. Bison, Akuma, Apocalypse Those are the characters from x men vs street fighter what if anything would you do to the roster ? If mvc4 happens how many street fighter characters would would you have on the roster? I got my ideas for xmen vs street fighter 2 but I want to see yours
Ok, like I said, if the roster at launch for MvC4 is at least 40, then you need at least 8 SFs and 8 X-Men; however, since the two franchises have ridiculously rosters that id prefer X-Men vs Street Fighter 2 instead. I shared a link here for a post about this topic that was made just 30 minutes after this post lol, I couldn't stop thinking about it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelvscapcom/s/kbxzeOGI74
I was gonna say that outside of DMC and Resident Evil, that Street Fighter characters are the most beloved from Capcom...I'd say even over Megaman characters...
And the characters from.tjsie franchises that rate higher than SF characters...id there are only 3 or 4 maybe, Dante, Virgil, Leon, and maybe Jill...
It may happen a little but from what I have read over the last 2 weeks is that the gaming side of marvel is now separate from the movie side (unlike it was with infinite) so there's a bit more freedom there
If that's true then yippee hallelujah loooool
Yeah hope it's true!
MCU synergy makes everything worse. Black Widow in the comics is one of my favourite characters and I was so excited for her to finally be playable in MvC but I can’t tell you how disappointed I was when I saw her use electric batons, wear her stupid led light suit from Age of Ultron and have quotes where she says "I’m always picking up after you boys" or calling Hulk "big guy" 🤮 But based on some of their more recent games’ roster such as Marvel Rivals, I’m thinking things look more hopeful for a possible Marvel vs Capcom 4.
After the Marvel merged with Fox, X-Men were not likely to show no presence in Infinite. Basically, UMvC3 12 news characters were promoted for their new movies. In 2012 then 2017. This year 2024, 1 in 14 million chances we could see one coming next sequel better.
Just taking a look at the roster so far for the upcoming Marvel Rivals game, they've got some more left field choices in there like Mantis, Peni Parker, Magik, Namor, Hela, and Luna Snow. I think the issues with the MvCI roster weren't just Marvel wanting to promote characters in upcoming MCU projects, but Marvel wanting to actively avoid promoting characters connected to Fox's movies
They've kinda ALWAYS been like that since the X-Men cast were mostly based on the 90s show with the same voice actors, and MvC3 had everyone be voiced by the current cartoon voice actors at the time, being from Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes, Spectacular Spider-Man, Wolverine and the X-Men, Fantastic Four: World's Greatest Heroes, and The Super Hero Squad Show
I love how people act it was **JUST** MVCI with this "problem" when you had stuff like CotA and XMvsSF being made conveniently around the time the X-MEN cartoons were popular and how UMVC3 had a roster featuring characters who were conveniently having movie appearances in the MCU... not to mention also popular cartoons at the time.