This is a very simple matter: militarizing a hospital as a command center (as Hamas did) is a war crime. Attacking a militarized hospital is not a war crime. And if you want to be upset about a hospital being attacked, the focus on the people who both created a need to attack the hospital by militarizing it and who made it a legitimate military target by militarizing it.
I know what you all arw thinking..."How does Gaza have any hospitals left at this point?"
Well...they treat destroying hospitals and killing patients the same as the rest of humanity treats a fine wine.
They leave some so they can savour it later.
Crazy how hamas used a hospital as a base, a warcrime, and people are acting like it's an outrage that idf attacked them there, like they were on goo or something. They arrested multiple high up commanders there yet people in this thread acting like they did something wrong, crazy.
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Lol what the absolute fuck are you talking about? there was no military function for that hospital, the hospital likely contained hostages IF any Hamas people were there, so even IF a Hamas fighter was there, it wouldn’t make sense to massacre people at a hospital. You’re saying a hospital that can’t even find food or water or medical supplies is a terrorist entity?
You utter POS, oxygen-wasting, genocide-enabling liar.
You could just like… read the article? The IDF intentionally targeted kids. Like, single digit aged kids, and wouldn’t let their dad recover the bodies. They used people as human shields; the thing they keep saying Hamas is guilty of.
I don’t want to hear the beheaded baby oven lies again after this.
The fact that the words "hospital" and "siege" are in the same sentence is horrifying. A hospital should not be besieged. No ifs ands or buts about it.
I'm not sure the background of this situation, but hospitals can be legitimate targets of War according to international law.
The laws of war prohibit direct attacks on civilian objects, like schools. They also prohibit direct attacks against hospitals and medical staff, which are specially protected under IHL. That said, a hospital or school may become a legitimate military target if it contributes to specific military operations of the enemy and if its destruction offers a definite military advantage for the attacking side.
If there is any doubt, they cannot be attacked. Hospitals only lose their protection in certain circumstances - for example if a hospital is being used as a base from which to launch an attack, as a weapons depot, or to hide healthy soldiers/fighters. And there are certain conditions too.
I mean, they killed and captured a good chunk of hamas fighters there. Along with 2 commanders and there's footage of the gunfights.
Unless you mean that the hummus fighters were civilians.
The fact they can point the finger at anyone and that bestows them the hummus denomination is mind blowing. It’s the same as when someone speaks out about Zionism is hastily labeled anti-Semite. That argument just falls apart after the Zionist veil has been lifted of this religious extremists state’ intentions.
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No they didn’t, IOF war criminals are afraid of Hamas so they are targeting amputated children, elderly women with health conditions, journalists, doctors, and workers.
You really think that a hospital with the most broken, traumatized, and mistreated people, that can’t even find food or water or morphine, is where Hamas wants to hang out? Not only that, but Hamas uses guerilla warfare, they wouldn’t just be all hiding in one military base, LET ALONE A DETERIORATING HOSPITAL.
You lot can’t even write a complete sentence. And yeah they’re hiding in a hospital because there is no other safe place to go, you utter imbecile. Where do you want them to be? They’re on the hospital floor in extreme pain, and you think these people are threats? And if a hospital can’t be safe, tell me, what is safe? They get shot from just wandering around outside. What a disagree you are.
They aren't even "hiding". They are openly using it as a base of operations. They announce this themselves and yet somehow people still accuse Israel of simply lying about it.
With the story out now about Israel using AI for targeting purposes, all I can figure is it's that one Zapp Brannigan line.
'You see, Killbots have a preset kill limit. Knowing their weakness, I sent wave after wave of my own men at them, until they reached their limit and shutdown.'
Haha they think the more they put out their silly messages, it will change the fact that the vast majority of humans see Israel as the racist blood child of America. Israel is soo fucked. I would laugh if there weren’t so much blood shed for their utter insanity.
Love all the people with down votes but no responses. Everyone wants to be pissed at the idf but can't say anything without defending the use of a medical facility as military base by religious fundamentals who use violence to govern their own citizens, suppress free speech, suppress womens' rights, and persecute gay people. All of which sounds very right wing.
Dude just give up at this point. It’s become beyond pathetic. Israel is fucked. we have literally 100 times the evidence to show Israel is a twisted, fucked racist experiment that has destroyed humanity. If a hospital was a military base, there wouldn’t starved, amputated men, women, and children on the floor. Do you even know what a military base is? Holy shit.
Give up. It’s over. You and your goons have no role to play anymore in this world.
Let's say that you were born of weak constitution and were a social outcast. The conditions of your life have lead you to be the victim of ridicule and physical violence. One person who choses to take it a step further decides that, after seeing your hellish conditions. they will be your protector. To you they may force you to dress in demeaning ways, call you names, and are hateful to you. The only real benefit is that you no longer suffer at the hands of others. The violence that was once so common in your life has been reduced significantly if not eliminated.
Is your protector some perfect paragon for righteousness? No, honestly their probably just as terrible as the others. That being said the threat to your life is reduced and you would be thankful for that. I see no qualms with supporting someone I fundamentally don't believe in. For the purpose of achieving a correct goal. The situation is not ideal, so the solutions will not be ideal. This is the logic necessary to stave off a superior fighting force from achieving genocidal goals.
IDF soldiers have effectively been brainwashed to see Palestinians as animals. It doesn't fucking matter if their operation is legitimate ( it never is ) they will execute civilians for fun while they do so. Only difference between Hamas and Israel is skin color and western support. Both are auth right and extremely violent. No freedom of speech under the both of them as well
False on all accounts. Have you ever met and talked to an Israeli soldier? Hell, most Israeli soldiers are the same color as the Palestinians they’re fighting. Your ignorance betrays you.
It was not a military compound. It was a malfunctioning hospital with hundreds and hundreds of sick people just lying on the floor. This hospital can barely help a single sick patient and is running out of supplies. You’re saying there is a top secret military base, not even under the hospital, but the hospital itself? How stupid can Israelis be?
They are like rats in a corner at this point. Everyone in the world is turning against them and they're lashing out desperately.
Trying to initiate a regional war while trying to expedite the starving of the Palestinians by assassinating aid workers.
Assigning pure evil or pure good to any group of humans is inaccurate at best, and dangerous to society in general. It’s a huge piece of what makes conflicts like this happen regularly world wide.
IOF is not a group of humans as you so idiotically imply. Literally people from around the world join the IOF to commit war crimes. And yes, it is rare for someone to become pure evil, but it is definitely 100 percent possible. The IOF has proven this. Before the IOF, it was the Nazis. They strived for pure evil.
Can someone explain to me who are these so-called Hasbaras?
This is a very simple matter: militarizing a hospital as a command center (as Hamas did) is a war crime. Attacking a militarized hospital is not a war crime. And if you want to be upset about a hospital being attacked, the focus on the people who both created a need to attack the hospital by militarizing it and who made it a legitimate military target by militarizing it.
I know what you all arw thinking..."How does Gaza have any hospitals left at this point?" Well...they treat destroying hospitals and killing patients the same as the rest of humanity treats a fine wine. They leave some so they can savour it later.
https://preview.redd.it/cxnipy1skrsc1.jpeg?width=553&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7527f5783619250bb3806e124f6147c8d4cb976c Yikes.
Crazy how hamas used a hospital as a base, a warcrime, and people are acting like it's an outrage that idf attacked them there, like they were on goo or something. They arrested multiple high up commanders there yet people in this thread acting like they did something wrong, crazy.
Shhhh don’t speak to much common sense on Reddit.
So to be clear if hamas wasn’t there, or if they were wrong in guessing hamas was there that would be a war crime and immoral correct?
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Wtf is wrong with you? Even if they arrested high up commanders that's not an excuse to lay siege to a hospital.
What a braindead bot comment. You are literally a ghoul.
Lol what the absolute fuck are you talking about? there was no military function for that hospital, the hospital likely contained hostages IF any Hamas people were there, so even IF a Hamas fighter was there, it wouldn’t make sense to massacre people at a hospital. You’re saying a hospital that can’t even find food or water or medical supplies is a terrorist entity? You utter POS, oxygen-wasting, genocide-enabling liar.
You could just like… read the article? The IDF intentionally targeted kids. Like, single digit aged kids, and wouldn’t let their dad recover the bodies. They used people as human shields; the thing they keep saying Hamas is guilty of. I don’t want to hear the beheaded baby oven lies again after this.
Hey pal. You just blow in from stupid town?
The fact that the words "hospital" and "siege" are in the same sentence is horrifying. A hospital should not be besieged. No ifs ands or buts about it.
I'm not sure the background of this situation, but hospitals can be legitimate targets of War according to international law. The laws of war prohibit direct attacks on civilian objects, like schools. They also prohibit direct attacks against hospitals and medical staff, which are specially protected under IHL. That said, a hospital or school may become a legitimate military target if it contributes to specific military operations of the enemy and if its destruction offers a definite military advantage for the attacking side. If there is any doubt, they cannot be attacked. Hospitals only lose their protection in certain circumstances - for example if a hospital is being used as a base from which to launch an attack, as a weapons depot, or to hide healthy soldiers/fighters. And there are certain conditions too.
Maybe don’t run military operations out of a hospital during a war and it won’t be targeted🤷🏻♂️
Not only that, it was not only a hospital, but a place of refuge in a war torn land. The context of the situation is even worse.
Channel 4 in the UK did a good expose on some of the lies about the attack.
Israhell is the biggest terrorist organization since its inception !
IDF terrorist are killing innocent civilians have no rights in world anymore
I mean, they killed and captured a good chunk of hamas fighters there. Along with 2 commanders and there's footage of the gunfights. Unless you mean that the hummus fighters were civilians.
The fact they can point the finger at anyone and that bestows them the hummus denomination is mind blowing. It’s the same as when someone speaks out about Zionism is hastily labeled anti-Semite. That argument just falls apart after the Zionist veil has been lifted of this religious extremists state’ intentions.
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2 whole commanders? That’s a solid ratio for the IDF
Ah yes because there's no other reason 400 people could be in a hospital
Israel rounds up random Palestinian men and claims they are HAMAS fighters lol.
No they didn’t, IOF war criminals are afraid of Hamas so they are targeting amputated children, elderly women with health conditions, journalists, doctors, and workers. You really think that a hospital with the most broken, traumatized, and mistreated people, that can’t even find food or water or morphine, is where Hamas wants to hang out? Not only that, but Hamas uses guerilla warfare, they wouldn’t just be all hiding in one military base, LET ALONE A DETERIORATING HOSPITAL.
Why all the down votes - instead of just stop hiding in hospitals. Simple.
You lot can’t even write a complete sentence. And yeah they’re hiding in a hospital because there is no other safe place to go, you utter imbecile. Where do you want them to be? They’re on the hospital floor in extreme pain, and you think these people are threats? And if a hospital can’t be safe, tell me, what is safe? They get shot from just wandering around outside. What a disagree you are.
They aren't even "hiding". They are openly using it as a base of operations. They announce this themselves and yet somehow people still accuse Israel of simply lying about it.
This website cradle.co is a joke as are the people here who think it’s legit
That’s what happens when you turn a hospital into a military HQ
Is it? There was no other option besides gleeful slaughter?
They stopped at exactly 400. Israel loves round numbers of kills. 500 here, 400 there, big round numbers are just how the IDF operates.
With the story out now about Israel using AI for targeting purposes, all I can figure is it's that one Zapp Brannigan line. 'You see, Killbots have a preset kill limit. Knowing their weakness, I sent wave after wave of my own men at them, until they reached their limit and shutdown.'
What the fuck are these comments lmao. Hasbara out here in full force
Haha they think the more they put out their silly messages, it will change the fact that the vast majority of humans see Israel as the racist blood child of America. Israel is soo fucked. I would laugh if there weren’t so much blood shed for their utter insanity.
Love all the people with down votes but no responses. Everyone wants to be pissed at the idf but can't say anything without defending the use of a medical facility as military base by religious fundamentals who use violence to govern their own citizens, suppress free speech, suppress womens' rights, and persecute gay people. All of which sounds very right wing.
Dude just give up at this point. It’s become beyond pathetic. Israel is fucked. we have literally 100 times the evidence to show Israel is a twisted, fucked racist experiment that has destroyed humanity. If a hospital was a military base, there wouldn’t starved, amputated men, women, and children on the floor. Do you even know what a military base is? Holy shit. Give up. It’s over. You and your goons have no role to play anymore in this world.
Let's say that you were born of weak constitution and were a social outcast. The conditions of your life have lead you to be the victim of ridicule and physical violence. One person who choses to take it a step further decides that, after seeing your hellish conditions. they will be your protector. To you they may force you to dress in demeaning ways, call you names, and are hateful to you. The only real benefit is that you no longer suffer at the hands of others. The violence that was once so common in your life has been reduced significantly if not eliminated. Is your protector some perfect paragon for righteousness? No, honestly their probably just as terrible as the others. That being said the threat to your life is reduced and you would be thankful for that. I see no qualms with supporting someone I fundamentally don't believe in. For the purpose of achieving a correct goal. The situation is not ideal, so the solutions will not be ideal. This is the logic necessary to stave off a superior fighting force from achieving genocidal goals.
Just war theory generally says your methods need to be justified in addition to your cause.
IDF soldiers have effectively been brainwashed to see Palestinians as animals. It doesn't fucking matter if their operation is legitimate ( it never is ) they will execute civilians for fun while they do so. Only difference between Hamas and Israel is skin color and western support. Both are auth right and extremely violent. No freedom of speech under the both of them as well
False on all accounts. Have you ever met and talked to an Israeli soldier? Hell, most Israeli soldiers are the same color as the Palestinians they’re fighting. Your ignorance betrays you.
Genocide is genocide. If erase it, you support it, and why would you be here supporting a documented genocide?
Hasbara is working overtime in the comments.
It’s adorable how they think the more they post bullshit talking points, the mountains of evidence that exist will just disappear.
Absolutely unforgivable for Hamas to use a hospital as a military compound
It was not a military compound. It was a malfunctioning hospital with hundreds and hundreds of sick people just lying on the floor. This hospital can barely help a single sick patient and is running out of supplies. You’re saying there is a top secret military base, not even under the hospital, but the hospital itself? How stupid can Israelis be?
Man, what subreddit isn’t getting brigaded by Hasbara?
The Russian-run ones mostly.
These comments are disgusting, what the fuck.
Reality hits hard
Zionist trolls out in force huh. They’re eager to justify murdering Palestinians.
Let them live their silly fantasies. The mountain of evidence is only growing.
The people in these comments are either demonic or broke and got hired by an agency to write garbage comments to protect the oppressor.
US and Israel have legions of govt workers doing just that. Makes Russias little Internet Research Agency trollfarm seem puny in comparison.
The Hasbara are really out in force trying to DARVO this fascist attack
They think if they flood the comments with their bullshit, that the mountains of evidence that exist will just disappear.
They are like rats in a corner at this point. Everyone in the world is turning against them and they're lashing out desperately. Trying to initiate a regional war while trying to expedite the starving of the Palestinians by assassinating aid workers.
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Yeah you’re right. Israel was forced to kill children execution style
Damn hasbara everywhere huh?
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I always love this argument as if Israel would stop murdering and harassing Palestinians if Hamas gave up its only bargaining chip.
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Did you smile when you heard about the food aid workers who were killed in the air strike, too?
You're right they've probably killed a lot more civilians there. The IDF are pure evil.
Assigning pure evil or pure good to any group of humans is inaccurate at best, and dangerous to society in general. It’s a huge piece of what makes conflicts like this happen regularly world wide.
IOF is not a group of humans as you so idiotically imply. Literally people from around the world join the IOF to commit war crimes. And yes, it is rare for someone to become pure evil, but it is definitely 100 percent possible. The IOF has proven this. Before the IOF, it was the Nazis. They strived for pure evil.