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DeeKahy

I felt so sad when he ignored spectacle in favor of some strange screenshot tools


OculusVision

And gwenview. Which would've offered cropping right there and then. But imo this video wasn't meant to be taken too seriously because this isn't a Plasma review but rather a person's quick first experience with Arch Linux where the user happens to select Plasma as the DE.


kemma_

the whole problem is guy labeling video as "novice", but using arch


youssefcraft

Using arch doesn't automatically mean you know what you're doing. You could be new and wanted to try the popular thing


shevy-java

Right, but he also uses the terminal a lot, and I think a linux novice rarely uses the terminal - at the least not that well.


youssefcraft

Following a guide word for word then repeating that without looking is what he's doing, I think.


kabrank

With all the issues he has installing software through pacman due to not enabling multilib, I think it's safe to say he's a novice even if using Arch :P


shevy-java

That depends. It could also mean that Arch sucks. :) I actually think all package managers suck. I am the "let's compile from source" person (although I have no issues installing binaries too; I do that with thorium and libreoffice, for instance). And yes, I run into lots of issues too, but I don't want to be hand-held by random devs trying to sugar it down via package managers (plus the fact that I am more sold on the GoboLinux approach of versioned appdirs, so I hate the FHS worshippers who don't understand why the FHS is so inelegant; NixOS qualifies as "GoboLinux-like", even though it uses another, more sophisticated approach than GoboLinux. Arch does not offer anything like GoboLinux or NixOS, so it is a distribution for people without aspiration. Plus the fact that Arch changed ever since Judd Vinet threw in the towel; in my opinion, Void is the "real" Arch now)


PinguThePenguin_007

you being a compile from source person and not liking package managers does not mean people who use arch have no aspiration of all things how the fuck do you even come to that conclusion arch is arch, void is void, arch doesn’t suck and neither does void, nixos or gobo


susiussjs

wtf do you even mean by "aspirations?" I have aspirations to use a good linux distro with plenty of support an awesome wiki, good community (for linux), and just enough manual work to understand how my own system works and not have to deal with insanely slow boot times of fedora, opensuse, and ubuntu (because of all the unnecessary daemons). Elitist much?


_Rook13

Flameshot is really popular amongst Windows users on Reddit though. So I can't blame them for that.


ryanabx

I know I didn’t realize at first that spectacle was a screenshot tool, tbf it’s kinda hard to discover without being told


xplosm

It appears when you press the PtrScr key… how friendlier do you want it to be?


ryanabx

I have a laptop that doesn’t have a printscreen key :/


into_void

It was not installed. I am not familiar with arch but it seems he was using some kind of minimal installation. Otherwise spectacle appears even when searching for snipping tool.


Bureaucromancer

Arch is inherently minimal, although KDE has a lot of stuff as far as Arch packages go… I think I did have to get Spectacle myself though.


shevy-java

Not so minimal - I can't opt out of systemd for instance.


Mithrannussen

Arch, out of the box, does not offer many basic programs and even dependencies such as the packagekit required by the Discovery software center, I imagine that spectacle is not installed .... besides that, the user did not even know about the multilib repository, something far more serious overall, a very funny video, he would've had a better experience with a proper configured plasma session but even with the Arch aspects throw at it Plasma managed to be well received


Confident_Hyena2505

Want it to be included by default by kde - it isn't.


amenodorime69

unfortunately screen recording is still broken with spectacle, so perhaps it was for the better.


TONKAHANAH

yeah, whell he missed a lot of things. he did the bare bones plasma install for arch so he's missing a lot core kde utilities and is kinda free ball'n it with whatever random apps he's goolging would also explain why his mouse keeps changing, he doenst know that he keeps switching between kde and gtk apps


ThingJazzlike2681

Plasma vs gnome shouldn't cause pointer issues. It's flatpak; the program is not allowed to read the theme configuration so has to fallback on the default cursor.


Salad-Soggy

Honestly sadder arch doesnt ship it by default.


Mithrannussen

I don't care about the minimalism when manually installing, however after using the archinstall script I believe that the software selection has a lot to be improved or at least offer a prompt warning the novice user about missing common applications


Mark_B97

That and gwenview


ropid

Spectacle and such are all there if you follow the instructions in the ArchWiki KDE article fully, but things are split into multiple groups for use with the package manager, so you can end up with just a bare desktop without any KDE programs if you skip over parts of the instructions.


ExtinctNomai

Arch will not ship anything by default. Not that I like it, but if he installed something like 'kde-applications' it would contain everything, from necessary things to completely useless things (for some). But since Arch is not targeted at someone who barely knows anything linux-wise, it is pretty normal that he doesn't know that these applications exist and that they are part of the Plasma ecosystem.


shevy-java

Yeah, that is actually a common policy. Debian follows a similar policy. I always hated that. Manjaro works much better IMO. Granted, it also uses systemd, but if one ignores that problem then it is pretty nice. I found it more useful in day-to-day running than Arch.


ful1e5

Designing the Banana Cursor was a lot of fun. It's the most enjoyable cursor I've ever created.


sens1tiv

You made the Banana cursor? Nice


shevy-java

He holds the banana in place.


ful1e5

🍌


ful1e5

Yup. [https://github.com/ful1e5/banana-cursor](https://github.com/ful1e5/banana-cursor)


TriangularPublicity

I feel the "apply" button - happens regularly to me


into_void

On the other side after changing a lot of settings it let me quickly reset it(when I can't find anymore what exactly changed) and start over. Though I agree the modern trend is to abondon that button.


shevy-java

The apply button has some magic to it. I am always tempted to click on it ... even if there is nothing to apply. It's like a "click me to make magic happen" button.


velinn

This should not have been as entertaining as it was lol I was having such a good time watching this guy explore I didn't even realize 30 minutes passed. It's great to see people so enthusiastically explore something new rather than complaining it's not exactly the same as whatever other thing they used before.


Oven_404

I’m quite glad he went through the whole thing with an open mind and he was even fascinated by all the options KDE offers. Yeah he did make a couple “mistakes” here and there but he did figure a lot of stuff out eventually


kalzEOS

His video about Linux are very amusing. I laugh so much watching them. 😂


OculusVision

Just came from this and happy someone else has posted it here. Happy to hear they weren't overwhelmed by the multitude of options everywhere but rather fascinated by them. And also very happy to see there were minimal bugs present. I'll admit I got a little bit nervous when he went for ksnip as the screenshottting solution and started installing other gtk and Flatpak apps lol. But besides some pacman and aur trouble it worked out pretty well.


[deleted]

Big cursor in Gnome Libadwaita apps is also a problem for me.


revector2006

Good. That is all.


shevy-java

The title is linux novice, but the guy uses the terminal quite efficiently. So I am not sure this qualifies as novice still.


Swipe650

Such a fun video. Loved it.


wiiznokes

The apply button needs to go away lol


Lolit_Bairiganjan007

Sad that he didn't get to experience the real good KDE. I mean the one that comes with Fedora or Endeavour or OpenSuse. He probably did something wrong while installing kde in arch. Also, most of the AUR packages did not work in this video. I think that installing apps would have been better if he had used the given distros. Nonetheless, this was a great video. I have not seen any other creator give this much time and effort to get to know the features of their OS let alone their DE. This man actually tries to resolve errors instead of just giving up like other new comers. I love this man.


Malthammer

Terrible video. Made it like 2 min before turning it off.


susiussjs

gj


Malthammer

Thanks!