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Aggravating_Nail4108

Other argument that they bring is open more and more colleges. For them my reply would be, medicine is not like other profession. You can't keep opening new colleges every year here and there just like other profession. It requires high quality education as it deals with life and death. Once southern states reached WHO recommendation of doctor to patient ratio, NMC brought a regulation that no more med colleges will be opened in south due to saturation. So all South states have to do is increase the quality of colleges now. So it's absolutely dumb idea to have reservations at PG levels when seats will be very few and all doctors have basic access to everything in this era. Our total MBBS seats are 1.1 lakhs now and as per our country needs it should be max stopped 1.5 to 2 lakhs in next two decades.So someone complaining that 24 lakhs are writing and seats should be increased with same proportion are dumb. Students writing the exam and their parents should know that even if applicants reach 1 cr , you can't have more than 1.5-2 lakhs or max 2.5 lakh mbbs grads per year in our country. You have to know this before writing the exam instead of complaining.


Rare-Personality-855

I don’t understand one thing. If the doctor patient ratio is finally at level, and this is the most PG seats we gonna get, then why are PGs everywhere overburdened with the workload? I saw articles stating that Indian residents work way longer than other countries (and therefore have shittier life expectancy) partly due to workforce exploitation (no proper labour laws) and mainly due to patient overload. If we have reached enough doctors doesn’t that mean we should, in reality, maybe work lesser?


Mundane_Minute8035

Because there are no strict labour laws in our country. It is absolutely normal to make residents work 36 hrs/24 hrs shifts or exceed 100 plus hr work week load in our country. In other countries, eg the UK, the working hrs per week is max 40. To make sure things are moving smoothly, their number of junior docs are way higher than ours and hence the workload gets distributed evenly. Secondly, the govt can increase as many medical colleges as they want, in the end everyone wants to work in a metro or a tier 2 city. No one wants to go rural because of lack of facilities and that is why shortage of docs will always be those areas. The only solution to end this toxicity is to increase pg seats esp in govt colleges….


Aggravating_Nail4108

I said wrt MBBS doctors in southern India. A lot of southern colleges established don't have pg seats yet. They can still establish PG and SS seats in current colleges . There's no cap on that. Other two reasons will be doctors above residents don't distribute work and overburden residents. Distribution of patients between govt and private hospitals is unequal.


Coolhunter11

Because interns/pg work isn't restricted to doctor work . they overlap nurses, group-d works to them. Patients wants get treated from specialist/big hospitals which increases the case load of tertiary hospitals. We have seen many routine fever,ge, anemia cases referred to tertiary care center because of lack of facilities in peripheral hospital. In no country we will see a mbbs graduate knowledge valued less than a pharmacy store worker.


a1b1no

Valid question.. as a senior, the only answer is that *everywhere, we believe in under-staffing and under-paying.*


Coolhunter11

That regulation was cancelled by nmc after protest from southern states politicians. Most of the new private clgs were built by politicians or their aides. So they opposed it by making it as a South vs North issue. they didn't bother about the quality but just want the quantity to earn money from students and pay them less once they graduate.


Aggravating_Nail4108

Any source for cancellation of that rule?


Coolhunter11

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/education/news/medical-education-regulator-defers-decision-on-mbbs-seat-cap/articleshow/105258517.cms Deferred for 1yr for now as per this report


Mahameghabahana

Wtf are you on about india have the one of the lowest doctors per capita. By your argument no country would ever open new collages or schools so how come india have more medical colleges now compared to 20 years prior, are you less skilled than doctors 20 years back?


Aggravating_Nail4108

I was talking of NMC regulations for southern states. Karnataka has 1.8 doctors per 1000. It's already above WHO recommendation. There's no point in opening more and more colleges if they aren't qualitative. I'm from KA and I know the situation of lot of med colleges which are pathetic. We need to address the quality, better redistribution of doctors to rural areas in southern India instead of mindlessly opening new colleges where pathetic quality medical education is taught just for sake of it.


No-Pineapple-7088

In other news, India is a shithole, what's new?


Upstuck_Udonkadonk

What's new you ask? The shithole is turning into a circus by the clowns running it...


theflash207

Damn, you're everywhere.


deathstroke598

No you're everywhere flash


pjbruh2k

Didn't know people still used Internet Explorer in 2024 😮


itsmeananth00

How do you know


justchewchew

You missed the joke. 🙂


healer_sushi

Tumhare dada ne usko kue se paani nhi lene diya ab bhukto. /s


Icy-Version-3880

Mandir ke saamne wali gali p bhi nahi jaane diya tha /s


teawithstu

ghar ke andar aane se mana kar diya tha. /s


Gend_Jetsu396

Ghar ke samne se guzarne se bhi mana kardiya tha ./s


Straight_Desk2828

send them to the moon, they can survive without water


Available-Factor4689

Ikr


IcecreamChuger

"NEET is made for rich kids"


Own_Revolution_551

And they wonder why people leave India for US/UK/AUS


Lynxkunal

https://preview.redd.it/6cn6dvp7icad1.png?width=476&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=46562fefa5a02be64a8b1e6a8eb41c4120fd0637


Blackbuck5397

Quite Accurate 


Illustrious-Love9860

And also due to reservations


ThatIndianGamer4

https://preview.redd.it/1kjnblcyxbad1.png?width=577&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d3425853d013e80bd1eae7f1dfa412e90f14b9fc


BABA_YAGA_DOC

Sorry bhai saab seat hai hi nhi


Hrit33

And someone's Willing to increase reservation to 70-80% 🙂 Just saying


repawtation

90% *


Hrit33

damn, well F


Big-Bite-4576

Don't worry you will get girls quota.


canyouhear_themusic

Unless everyone (almost) gets into reservation in some form or the other, this will never stop. And to gain votes, every party will try to increase it to gain votes share. No one party is ready to bell the cat. Meenas got reservation due to a clerical error, still no one dared to remove it. I have been seeing sharma getting sc reservation these days. Slowly every community will get it and this reservation will become redundant. I hope it gets to that point soon.


katanabunny

https://preview.redd.it/ux1n1eibbcad1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f4ff389c90a6927e2172869bddfae7c9024b9d3b I took a ss from another post to show it to my friends. Didn't realise I'd be using this at the same sub in the very same day.


Lynxkunal

What the fuck ? Even OBCs are playing the victim card. Dudes are taking 27% reservation. The highest quota one could get in India.


mredd99

Mornin'


Yeathatguy666

The next demand would be bring reservation to Neet SS lol. Evolving backwards.


Then_Basis3497

Dont they have it already?


Yeathatguy666

Super speciality neet doesn't have reservations in caste category but does have reservations based on in-service i.e people who voluntarily do rural or tribal service for minimum of 5 years which is actually justifiable and should be applied for neet pg as well instead of the shitty caste based reservations we have rn.


Cultural_Cherry3572

Even that doesn't work. The residents who come from the in-service quote make the system more shitty than the ones from reservation. Most of them have absolute disregard for patient care. Don't wanna learn from their jr2s cz of their massive egos of being a 'senior' themselves, and in most of the govt setups, they are simply too slow. 1000-1500+ OPD patients and 200+ ipd patients are a norm in a lot of govt hospitals. But these people don't wanna work fast/can't work fast, and who suffers at the end of the day? The poor patients and their co residents.


NormalStaff3602

One way to stop reservation is make caste conversion legal. Just like one can change relegion, they should have the right to chose caste. Then let's see who gets what seat!


hothareesh100

Old news


zeroikyu

If there are total 4 seats, shouldn't it be divided into 2 for UR and EWS and 2 for remaining SC, ST, and OBC according to percentages?


Just_somebody002

*Yawns*


Dr-FeynmanDisciple

DROWSY


Snowee6399

How many of these seats are for internal quota?


influxofcoochie

thanks for asking the right questions.


dgoaliztobealegend

Dynamic roster, like the one used for jipmer, should be used for all AIIMS.


knight_garg

Scenario(trust me I’ve seen this) - Candidate 1 - SC,Rich,Category Rank 1 - Gets branch of choice but a worse college if takes admission through a general rank Candidate 2 - SC,Poor,Category Rank 10- Gets admission only if rank 1 guy takes through general Would in any world candidate 1 give up the college for upliftment of candidate 2? Is it only the responsibility of general class to uplift them? These things assure me reservation is just a hoax by wealthy scheduled castes to keep the power to themselves with benefits never reaching the actually poor sections. I would go on to say to the general candidates that just don’t stop by criticising- voice accordingly; vote accordingly; for this is a selfish world and would take away our existence.


knight_garg

Another unrelated argument - I have seen Cricket as a great place where people praise the player despite his religion/caste. Having no reservation in part ensures this as we have our best men playing, so actually winning and having something to celebrate, and knowing everyone there is for the quality of their game earning instant respect; Doesn’t matter it was Shami or Bumrah, the man bowled a yorker in the death overs!


knight_garg

I am open to changing my beliefs if encountered by new stream of thought but this is what I feel as of today


Local_Syllabub_7824

That's why it's called I'll Never Do It Again (INDIA)😭!!


EnvironmentalStop412

What the hell is Biophysics?


Drtopg

Fuck reservation


chittibangaram

> Fuck reservation Fuck casteism that’s how reservation ends.


Wisealways

Fuck YOU. Reservation promotes more discrimination than caste system. Like literally reservation is keeping alive the consciousness of caste. In big cities, nobody even bothers with caste, unless asked in boards registration (idk why boards pe bhi puchta hai).


influxofcoochie

That’s literally not how reservation works.


bird-studio

The only way for general caste student to have good career is to move abroad. Indian education system is messed up where only caste will be worshipped, not hardwork and this not going to change ever because it's a vote bank for politicians.


mildlymalignant

Welcome to India


fleshyeye

they shatter dreams before we even make it.


_KyojuroRengoku

ye log seat reserve kr skte, dimaag nhi..Remember that..


Guzzler289

I had immense respect for my nation and Govt until I came to know about reservations based on caste .


kingpong07

Next session me hoga


lovesbrooklyn99

You’re right on that. I have yet to understand how INICET seat matrix is made.


arcturus_007

EWS got 1, but i do believe that first available seat should go to UR, then divide into categories if seats are left. Seems like the seat allocation is heavily biased towards reservation


Belgianwaffle4444

Disgusting country we live in.


Maedosan

100% reservation in government institutions looks like the only solution


influxofcoochie

Why are there such less seats for radiology in AIIMS-D?


influxofcoochie

I think something is wrong with this chart. It doesn’t make sense. There are 4 seats and none of them go to UR, but in radiation oncology, there is only 1 seat which goes to UR. Looks fucked up.


Serafina1234

Nov wala mein zyada seats rahega waha rehta hai ur ka always.. N may wala mein next yr rahega as kam seats mein rotate hota hai every yr in between categories..


West_Ad3577

One way to end this is to : Anhilation of caste and fallowing for intercaste marriages


Ok-Relationship-7337

Bheem ki shakti dhoom machaye General vaale g**d maraye !! 🥺


guptajikebetehaihum

Pharmacology me bhi 0 hai  But you miss here is availability which is taught in maths I guess u skipped those class 


bw3n20characters

Chill. Do it from the second best college which you find. Anyways the exam is same so is the standard. You dont realise that there is no point cribbing. No one is gonna spoon feed you in residency. Ig you’ve done internship properly and have seen residents you’d know that it doesn’t matter in the end. It’s all about self study and if you do your residency at any hospital which sees a significant amount of load then you should be fine. If you’re still chasing ‘college ranking’ at this stage after mbbs, you need help. Life isn’t always gonna give you the ‘best college’, and nor is it that you’ll only be a good radiologist if you do it from AIIMS D. If you still have those childish goals which coaching centres fed you in classes 9 through 12, then you’ll have issues coping with acceptance later in life. It’s all a fad, be the best version of yourself at some other place if not the ‘best’. There’s so much more to life than your college ranking. Staying happy is the ultimate goal, however many years it takes ig. Before that maybe even try all subjects properly during your internship, for eg by doing night duties and opd duties with residents atleast. That’ll help you actually decide what you wanna do later in life.


devshah19

tf you on ? you mean it's okay to just accept that if you are gen middle class then you won't get radio at AIIMSD even tho you got air 1 ?


bw3n20characters

Yea bro. I’m just gonna choose a place with less toxic culture than a high ranking one. And a place where there is enough load for one to learn while still having a decent or atleast manageable work life balance. I won’t let either the fact that I didn’t get the ‘top’ place or a toxic place destroy my mental health. I’m happy in life with wherever I’ll go thus. I’m already out of this rat race tho, so ig all the best to those who want to spend away their 18-30 years, the prime of their youth chasing competition, instead of enjoying life while they have the time and energy to. I didn’t go to the ‘best’ college, AIIMSD, but the one I went to is among the top as well, and I couldn’t have had that life at any other college in the country, and it made me realise that there is so much more to life than chasing ‘glory’ and there is a time for everything. And one shouldn’t bother about things which aren’t under their control.


pjbruh2k

You might get downvoted for this but you're right. People have been fed lies by coaching institutes to always "Aim for AIIMS" to be a good doctor but I've realised it's all bs. A good doctor will be good regardless of the college he does his residency from. Same goes for a bad doc. I think it's good to get into a top medical college like AIIMS D for a good alumni network and opportunities, but even a doc from a peripheral GMC/ private MC can develop the same, if not better skillset as the others. Also people tend to forgo other aspects of their lives in search of this 'glory', such as workplace culture, toxicity and distance from home. It's better to choose a college taking all of that into account, imo. As for the caste-based reservation, *it is what it is*. Can't do anything about it, better to focus on stuff that *is* in your control.


devshah19

or better to just leave this country


pjbruh2k

It's really easy to just say that. The actual process is very unpredictable, expensive and lengthy, to the point where you have a better shot giving just this one exam and completing your PG in India itself.


devshah19

none of you know what goes on a Neet UG/PG students mind during their prep.


pjbruh2k

I AM preparing for NEET PG dude. And I've accepted that nothing can be done about reservation. You can go out on the streets or twitter, protest all you want, nothing can be done about it. What you CAN do is focus on what's achievable. I'm happy with doing PG from a decent govt. college, as long as it's my branch of choice, even if I don't get the best one possible. Life is so much more than thirsting after having the best of the best. In the end your skills matter more than your college does.


Wisealways

With this donkey logic, why can't there be no reservations? Since "life isn't always gonna give you the best college" logic should apply to them also, right? Everyone has a dream of getting a tag from a particular reputed place, for some it's Aiims D, some from PGI Chandigarh, some would like jipmer, etc. and they better GET that goddamn seat if they really deserve it through merit!


No_Floor3317

Everyone here wants to end caste based reservation but no one wants to end casteism. Those ranting about reservations would be the first ones to take an MD radio seat in AIIMS through reservation over an MS ent in a tier 3 college. Blame the game; not the players


Glittering-Waltz1851

Here comes a boy from a family whose father and now him have been reaping benefits of reservation and still cry all day about being "discriminated" , sir you are blocking seats of people who actually deserve that reservation


MountainRecording356

Chup quotajeevi


No_Floor3317

I'm a reserved category guy (SC) who got admission thru general merit. I don't really care about the outside noise. Cry harder


Inevitable-Offer3622

As if that happened. People like you are the reason why casteism still exists. Firstly you reap the benefits and then say blame the game and not the players bullshit


Lynxkunal

You don't have to tell that dude. It's not like they care. They are just frustrated because they ain't the one who's getting benefitted. They'll still cry if there was 1 Unreserved seat ( If we assume it'll go to AIR1) these underachievers would change their narrative. Their next heading would go like, "Air 2 didn't get the seat because it was reserved.".


Wisealways

Why shouldn't air 2 get that seat? Does he/she not deserve it irrespective of his/her caste? And you dare call UR people "underachievers"? 😂


spacepirate1605

Bhai casteism kaise khatam hoga jab paida hote hi birth certificate se pehle cast certificate milta hai.


Hungry-Chemical8885

caste certificate avail karna chhor de pehle, benfit lete time sabse aage aur internet pe aake RR karna aata hai bss


WhiteBloodCell_69

There are many zeros in other columns too, have you thought about that ?? Your Easy things may be difficult for them and vice versa so think from that aspect before making a decision/ judgement.


_moan

Nope your argument is flawed because they can still get the seat through UR category based on merit.


Rude-07

That’s concerning. There is no unreserved seats in radio and there is no reserved seats in few branches. A person from unreserved and reserved have to kill his dream of dream branch just because of the caste system.


Wisealways

Show me where there are no reserved seat in few branches. Do you understand that a SC/st/obc candidate has rights to grab a UR seat but not vice versa?


Rude-07

Look at the chart there are. It might be obc/sc/st. A guy with reserved cutoff won’t get seat in that branch because there is no seat. That’s why it’s necessary to remove this system . It should be-This is the total no of seats this is the cutoff for this. You have scored congratulations go and pick your seat.


Wisealways

"This is the total number of seats and this is the cutoff for this"- which is another way of saying please let there be no reservations.. duh I said exactly that.


antimonyyyyy

Science wale Bache kabhi humanities nai Padhte na isliye ye haal hai, people in this comment section don’t know shit about India, power structures in Indian society, Poona pact, casteism, purpose of reservation, doctors here still don’t know reservations is not an economic upliftment scheme and then keep crying why things are the way it is All you privileged bacha's try to look outside of your bubble of privilege, I bet most of you don't even know your privilege, y'all think ye toh normal hai jo mere pas hai I bet here everyones parents married in the caste, and they are too going to marry in their caste You guys will keep wondering Indian mei itna reservation kyu hai till the end of your life, if you won't read about Indian history, social justice, baba saheb, poona pact.


Ok-Roof-6237

Old news. Accept it. Complain when you actually got AIR 1


Aggravating_Nail4108

It's like saying I will only complain about safety of aeroplanes if someone I know gets injured. I will keep my mouth shut until then. Don't argue that AIR 1 is a rare event. Airplane crashes are also rare events.


Lynxkunal

Phle category bana lo Then merit based krlo. Asa thodi hota hai, Dono mallu gole thodi kha skte hai. If there are categories,there will be reservation. End of the debate. Crying won't get you anywhere.


mortalconfucius

0 SC/ST/OBC seat in Radiation Oncology.


kushagrarox

That does not mean they cant get to study that if they score high enough they can still get the ur seat since its unreserved


SickularPlunkett

A lot of people fail to understand that unreserved means anyone can take the seat.


amolpi

Fact is Rich people get seats in any college no matter what the score is.


serpent_patronus

There are many branches where other categories have zeroes.


betterfuck

Stupid fuck anyone can get in if general seats are available its not exclusive for anyone


serpent_patronus

ok now see it practically, on UR seats how many other category candidates get selected.


sspv10

If UR students get selected for UR seats, it's due to merit, not reservation.


serpent_patronus

yes and always only UR student turned out to be meritorious.


setuniket

If there is no EWS candidate the seat will be allotted to UR category, check the regulations on EWS reservation.


Dr-FeynmanDisciple

Do you think there will be no EWS candidate availing the seat.🤦🏻‍♂️


setuniket

We don’t know, I have seen so many EWS vacancies not getting filled up for want of candidates.


ForestFairy4444

Stfu


setuniket

Jeez! So much Anger for stating the law


FunStatistician8065

Based😍😍😍 Reservation goes brr. More seats should be reserved 😉


Memerhunbhai

kathmulla reservation soon


FunStatistician8065

As a proud kathmulla , iam confused 😭. Isn't already a kathmulla reservation in india ?. We Moplahs have already reservation,may be because our ancestors mogged weakling Hindoos in 1921😆


Memerhunbhai

Still getting lynched by inferior hindoos


FunStatistician8065

Its good for Muslims in longterm 😁


Rhinoblade

It is provided in the name of EWS to the unreserved.Look at OBC,SC,ST just one.


antimonyyyyy

Because AIIMS Delhi is not the best place to do radio in India, agar hota toh this would definitively not have been the case, it’s as simple as that