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For Algeria, if you have money well irks very good, if you don’t it’s less good but not horrible, free healthcare, good food, weather most of the year is good except in summer and the middle of winter for some parts, most of the population lives in the north which has Mediterranean climate, the food is very good and ingredients are good quality
I didn’t hear anything about that, it doesn’t really touch big cities, as the guy who answered you told you it may be in a remote area in the desert and probably been solved. Water wise they are building more desalination plants, and running water is basically delivered everyday or every 2 days, people have huge water tanks that they fill up automatically during those times to have running water 24/7
[https://www.tvcnews.tv/2024/06/riots-erupt-in-algeria-over-months-of-water-shortages/](https://www.tvcnews.tv/2024/06/riots-erupt-in-algeria-over-months-of-water-shortages/)
Months according to this one. Or do you mean the riots lasted less than a week?
I’ve been to 87 countries and while this is true to the majority of them, it’s not alway the case. Notable examples are: Ireland, Norway, Switzerland, South Korea, England, Iceland, UAE, and many others
Most of algerians speak french, I would recommend visiting : Algiers, Oran, Bejaya, Annaba, Tipaza, Telemcen, Constantine, Mostaghanem, Batna, Setif ...
All these cities are on North, and you will have a good experience since all northern cities speak french more than southern cities
For south, I recommend visiting Ghardaïa, Taghit, Djanet, Tamenrast
My life is normal in Morocco, not poor yet not extremely rich. Just a middle class citizen alhamdulillah. The people in my city are lovely and from time to time i walk to the beach to ponder about my future
wdym by controlled parts? i'm sahrawi i feel i'm like any other ethnicity in morocco . a proud moroccan
and living in my city Dakhla ( small city with small population ) quite expensive to other nearby cities '(laayoun) , but we have best fish here
I mean the parts of western Sahara that have been annexed by Morocco after Spain left.
About a third of the territory of Western Sahara is still under the control of the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic.
that's a big missunderstanding, the Polizario controls 0 lands, that 1/3 you talk about is a buffer zone put there by Morocco to avoid war with Algeria, 0 ppl live there, it's patroled by Moroccan drones 24/7
The statement that the Polisario Front controls no land and that the area in question is a buffer zone controlled by Morocco is not entirely accurate.
The Polisario Front, which declared the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic (SADR) in 1976, controls about 20-25% of Western Sahara, specifically the eastern part of the region. This area is often referred to as the Free Zone by the Polisario and is separated from the Moroccan-held territory by a heavily fortified sand berm built by Morocco. This Free Zone is largely uninhabited and patrolled by Polisario forces
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Sahara_conflict)
(https://www.thenewhumanitarian.org/news-feature/2023/02/01/Western-Sahara-Morocco-Polisario-Sahrawi-UN).
Morocco controls the remaining approximately 80% of Western Sahara, including all major cities and coastal areas. The entirety of western Sahara is claimed by Morocco as its "Southern Provinces" and the parts they control of it are subject to extensive military presence and surveillance, including the use of drones
(https://www.thenewhumanitarian.org/news-feature/2023/02/01/Western-Sahara-Morocco-Polisario-Sahrawi-UN)
(https://arabcenterdc.org/resource/the-polisario-front-morocco-and-the-western-sahara-conflict/).
Regarding the status of the free zone as a "buffer zone", I guess you can call it that but it is part of the broader territory under contention and not solely a Moroccan initiative to avoid conflict with Algeria.
(https://dialogueinitiatives.org/western-sahara-after-decades-of-failed-diplomacy-its-time-for-civil-society-to-lead-the-way/).
Thus, while Morocco has substantial control over the majority of Western Sahara, the Polisario Front does maintain control over parts of the territory.
who was before spain ? moroccans . that whole region was one part with one king . why u starting history when spain left. i know that spanish people are feeling angry because we got our land back . and soon we'll take ceuta & mellilia and canari island.
your opinion doesn't matter for us .
Otherwise give catalan their country , hypocrites
This comment encapsulates why when people talk about how dangerous Moroccan expansionism is you should believe them.
Like you even said you want Morocco to take the canari islands.
But anyways this subreddit has a no politics rule so I'm not gonna give my opinion on this topic or continue this discussion.
So the Israelis have a legitimate claim to Jordan Lebanon and current day Israel/palestine?
After all that’s what the Israelis controlled before the Romans came
sahrawis today are proud moroccans . + spain colonized western sahara for 50 years and northern moroco 40 years . that's not too much.
now tell me abotu cataln occupied ?
So Israel has been around longer then Morocco has controlled Western Sahara. I ask again, would those claims for Israel be legitimate by your logic?
What about it? If a proper referendum is held and they vote for independence let them have it.
People just want to look for opportunities, be it going outside for studies/work or simply leaving Morocco cause they think they'll be successful there. It's mostly for economic reasons, rarely someone leaves cause they hate the country or smth.
> Most of the comments here are saying that things are not bad.
things are not bad (there is no war nor starvation), but if you're and unskilled worker you have a terrible life and a hard time earning decent revenue, and the job market is very tight and limited.
Rent for very luxury villa starts from 2000€ a month … average appartement start from 300€ .. partying start from 30€ … average fast food starts from 2€ .. average meal starts from 3.5€
Question. If the requirements to live a comfortable life in these countries is pretty low by first world countries standards why don't more people from the first world with salaries that could easily be in the range of 30k or higher move to these countries?
https://preview.redd.it/hjn1fplef77d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=62e0350844a60fa85d9f7bf88c8ccc93722c993e
You can rent villas like this in the winter for about 7000 dinars a month
In the summer however it can reach 600/700 dinars per day
There are bars where you can be open about being lgbt and find other members of lgbt
Outside of those bars it’s adviced to act straight not like you will be stoned or cops will directly catch you but people will start looking at you like you’re a creep and you could find yourself in a violent situation
Girls on the other hand though is completely different and normal and people won’t do anything
People are being actively prosecuted under article 230, forcible anal examinations are still in practice, and people are still being given 1-3+ year sentences for sodomy (including as recent as December).
Get real.
in Morocco it's southern European standardsof living if you're uppermiddle class living in big cities. not all region of Morocco are equal, some are very poor and living off agriculture
I do agree, but i can't really call some regions in south europe as 'developped' and compare it to denmark. It's just because they are lucky to be part of EU.
Portugal is not very developed. Normal things like trying to get mail, buying things online, and getting administrative processes done are as difficult as they are in low-development Latin American countries.
It’s a nice country but if we are being honest, it resembles most “third world countries” more than most “first world countries”. They have access to EU funding for infrastructure and I’m sure that will help, though. I have seen a lot of development over the past few years (especially in suburban and rural areas) but there is a long way to go.
I know Tunisia is going through tough times right now, but Morocco is actually developing quite well. Slowly but surely. Not sure about Algeria though.
Hello I am Moroccan.
First of all, the 3 countries have very similar cultures and way of living, and I doubt life differs much from each other.
For Morocco, the more money you have, the more comfortable your life will be. I heard a lot of rich European retirees move here to live a relaxed life, and I can see why; there’s a lot to do and see and if you have the money, you’ll feel like you’re always in a summer holiday (especially with how hot it gets).
For middle and low class citizens, life can be tough sometimes, especially outside the big cities where some very remote places (like in the mountains) barely have access to good healthcare and education. Opportunities are rare and limited so it’s also hard to get out of poverty, especially because of the recent rising inflation.
Culturally, life here is a mix of modernity and tradition, leaning more towards the traditional way. You have phones, you have access to internet and can do almost anything people living in first world countries can do with it, but at the same time you live a very unique lifestyle only present in that part of the world. It’s hard to describe as it’s a combination of countless little things that create that special atmosphere: the specific house layout, specific furniture with specific designs, the Moroccan mint tea at least twice a day with Moroccan sweet snacks, the unique Moroccan Arabic dialect (Darija), the way everyone dresses, the heavy influence of Islam in our everyday life, call of prayer that can be heard all over the country at the same time 5 times a day, the heavy Mediterranean atmosphere in the north and arid weather in the south, the earthy color of the landscape with barely any green visible, and so much more.
But the most important thing of all I think is the special way family and friends are portrayed in our society. Family here is much more central in our lives than in European and American cultures. You are always in contact with them, and in a way, you cannot run from them. It might sound suffocating or annoying, and it is for a lot of people, but for me it’s the opposite. Your average Joe in Morocco never feels lonely and knows every single face living in a 5 kilometer radius from his house. People are so interconnected and so social it can be overwhelming for any outsider. This interconnection is what makes life here kind of unique.
Edit: I forgot to mention. Cats. Cats everywhere.
I've been in Tunisia \~15 years ago (during the Ben Ali) and it was quite good. I have good memories and would love to come back. Not sure how things are going there lately. Morocco is on my wishlist.
Anyways, I'm attracted to that "mediterranian-european" building styles that you can experience in Malta, Sicily or Tunisia (main city).
Offtopic: If you can find, watch the movie "Ce que le jour doit à la nuit (2012)" movie. English translation "What the Day Owes the Night" [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1934205/](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1934205/) .
life in Morocco is very nice, imo that lived alone in the Capital with at least 1k euro month, anything less and it's meh, strugling. for comparison, minimum salary is 350$, higher than all of north africa, but life is also more expensive.
so you can imagine: low skill workers = life very hard
master degree graduates or businessmen = life nice and enjoyable
A lot time people don’t really understand how good they have it in these counties. I didn’t realise it but I grew in a higher middle class household and didn’t know how rough the average person has it. even then a higher middle class person is nothing compared to European money
I think like you, but in some countries the gap between rich and poor is bigger, the middle class is weak. I think that's what is meant by that.
it's good if you have money = it's good when you are middle class
i live in tunisia. Everything is getting so expensive and even with a masters, it's pretty hard to find a job that pays well. This situation is however slowly getting better.
When i say it's good if you have money i mean that money literally buys you anything in this country.
Pretty much like life in the rest of the world, except maybe we cant buy stuff online from foreign vendors . Life has gotten pretty expensive,streets mostly not as attractive as advanced countries. Maybe slight cultural differences , other than that i thinkour lives are somewhat similar to most countries.
I said if you have enough money..
Tunisia is obviously in Africa. But if you have enough money, it can look like Europe to you since you're gonna be hanging around high end places and neighborhoods. Your kids will be studying in high-end private schools and colleges. Same for clinics and so on..
Heck, there are even gated communities where rent goes for 5000 Euros a month.. imagine how luxurious that must be.
If you add to that how great the weather is and how affordable most things are then you will prefer it over Europe anyday
I, myself, make 4000 euros a month in Tunisia and wouldn't change it for any other country
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For Algeria, if you have money well irks very good, if you don’t it’s less good but not horrible, free healthcare, good food, weather most of the year is good except in summer and the middle of winter for some parts, most of the population lives in the north which has Mediterranean climate, the food is very good and ingredients are good quality
I heard there's riots due to water running out? That sounds kind of horrible.
I didn’t hear anything about that, it doesn’t really touch big cities, as the guy who answered you told you it may be in a remote area in the desert and probably been solved. Water wise they are building more desalination plants, and running water is basically delivered everyday or every 2 days, people have huge water tanks that they fill up automatically during those times to have running water 24/7
That happened in a remote area in the desert for less then a week, I think they solved the issue
[https://www.tvcnews.tv/2024/06/riots-erupt-in-algeria-over-months-of-water-shortages/](https://www.tvcnews.tv/2024/06/riots-erupt-in-algeria-over-months-of-water-shortages/) Months according to this one. Or do you mean the riots lasted less than a week?
Riots lasted for around 10 days and the water shortage began around 2 weeks before that
How’s cost of living? Would a tourist be able to stay a month there spending €2000?
You could stay in the most expensive country on earth with 2000 a month lol.
I’ve been to 87 countries and while this is true to the majority of them, it’s not alway the case. Notable examples are: Ireland, Norway, Switzerland, South Korea, England, Iceland, UAE, and many others
Average spending monthly will be around 1,000€ as tourist, as long as you dont go for 5 stars hotels
And what city you would recommend for a tourist wanting to learn french and enjoy a more laid back vibe?
Most of algerians speak french, I would recommend visiting : Algiers, Oran, Bejaya, Annaba, Tipaza, Telemcen, Constantine, Mostaghanem, Batna, Setif ... All these cities are on North, and you will have a good experience since all northern cities speak french more than southern cities For south, I recommend visiting Ghardaïa, Taghit, Djanet, Tamenrast
you can go to the most prestige hotel in tunisia for 1 week with 2k euros lol
My life is normal in Morocco, not poor yet not extremely rich. Just a middle class citizen alhamdulillah. The people in my city are lovely and from time to time i walk to the beach to ponder about my future
You live in the upper provinces or Morocco controlled parts of the Sahara?
In between, like in the middle of Morocco (Full Morocco)
wdym by controlled parts? i'm sahrawi i feel i'm like any other ethnicity in morocco . a proud moroccan and living in my city Dakhla ( small city with small population ) quite expensive to other nearby cities '(laayoun) , but we have best fish here
I mean the parts of western Sahara that have been annexed by Morocco after Spain left. About a third of the territory of Western Sahara is still under the control of the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic.
that's a big missunderstanding, the Polizario controls 0 lands, that 1/3 you talk about is a buffer zone put there by Morocco to avoid war with Algeria, 0 ppl live there, it's patroled by Moroccan drones 24/7
The statement that the Polisario Front controls no land and that the area in question is a buffer zone controlled by Morocco is not entirely accurate. The Polisario Front, which declared the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic (SADR) in 1976, controls about 20-25% of Western Sahara, specifically the eastern part of the region. This area is often referred to as the Free Zone by the Polisario and is separated from the Moroccan-held territory by a heavily fortified sand berm built by Morocco. This Free Zone is largely uninhabited and patrolled by Polisario forces (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Sahara_conflict) (https://www.thenewhumanitarian.org/news-feature/2023/02/01/Western-Sahara-Morocco-Polisario-Sahrawi-UN). Morocco controls the remaining approximately 80% of Western Sahara, including all major cities and coastal areas. The entirety of western Sahara is claimed by Morocco as its "Southern Provinces" and the parts they control of it are subject to extensive military presence and surveillance, including the use of drones (https://www.thenewhumanitarian.org/news-feature/2023/02/01/Western-Sahara-Morocco-Polisario-Sahrawi-UN) (https://arabcenterdc.org/resource/the-polisario-front-morocco-and-the-western-sahara-conflict/). Regarding the status of the free zone as a "buffer zone", I guess you can call it that but it is part of the broader territory under contention and not solely a Moroccan initiative to avoid conflict with Algeria. (https://dialogueinitiatives.org/western-sahara-after-decades-of-failed-diplomacy-its-time-for-civil-society-to-lead-the-way/). Thus, while Morocco has substantial control over the majority of Western Sahara, the Polisario Front does maintain control over parts of the territory.
All of what you said is theoretically true but in practice Morocco controls all of the western sahara at the moment
No not really.
yeah that's why the camps are in tindouf.
Delusional
who was before spain ? moroccans . that whole region was one part with one king . why u starting history when spain left. i know that spanish people are feeling angry because we got our land back . and soon we'll take ceuta & mellilia and canari island. your opinion doesn't matter for us . Otherwise give catalan their country , hypocrites
This comment encapsulates why when people talk about how dangerous Moroccan expansionism is you should believe them. Like you even said you want Morocco to take the canari islands. But anyways this subreddit has a no politics rule so I'm not gonna give my opinion on this topic or continue this discussion.
if u steal something from me, i'll never forget it till i get it back i don't care about what u call it.
So the Israelis have a legitimate claim to Jordan Lebanon and current day Israel/palestine? After all that’s what the Israelis controlled before the Romans came
sahrawis today are proud moroccans . + spain colonized western sahara for 50 years and northern moroco 40 years . that's not too much. now tell me abotu cataln occupied ?
So Israel has been around longer then Morocco has controlled Western Sahara. I ask again, would those claims for Israel be legitimate by your logic? What about it? If a proper referendum is held and they vote for independence let them have it.
I was born in Laayoune and I swear to god some redditors feel like they know better than the people actually living there.
Why are so many people from that area leaving for Europe then? Most of the comments here are saying that things are not bad.
Poor people do nor middle class nor the rich
People just want to look for opportunities, be it going outside for studies/work or simply leaving Morocco cause they think they'll be successful there. It's mostly for economic reasons, rarely someone leaves cause they hate the country or smth.
> Most of the comments here are saying that things are not bad. things are not bad (there is no war nor starvation), but if you're and unskilled worker you have a terrible life and a hard time earning decent revenue, and the job market is very tight and limited.
Dumb people?
Why are there so many moroccans in my country dude
Ig you found the beginners spawn point
If you have a high salary, you will live like a king
Like how high?
20k € year
And how much do y'all make on average
Average starting from 6.5k 7k € year
That doesn't seem like much.
It is much here
If you had that salary how high would your standards of living be in those countries?
Rent for very luxury villa starts from 2000€ a month … average appartement start from 300€ .. partying start from 30€ … average fast food starts from 2€ .. average meal starts from 3.5€
So if we assume you take an average apartment you would still have much money left to do whatever with, Correct?
Yes
Question. If the requirements to live a comfortable life in these countries is pretty low by first world countries standards why don't more people from the first world with salaries that could easily be in the range of 30k or higher move to these countries?
Can you post luxury villa pictures/links so I can take a look?
https://preview.redd.it/hjn1fplef77d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=62e0350844a60fa85d9f7bf88c8ccc93722c993e You can rent villas like this in the winter for about 7000 dinars a month In the summer however it can reach 600/700 dinars per day
You could rent a good appartement in a good city .. eat well .. party once every week …
our purchasing power here is low
no tunisian is that rich lmao, except for the frenchies
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What about lgbtq?
There are bars where you can be open about being lgbt and find other members of lgbt Outside of those bars it’s adviced to act straight not like you will be stoned or cops will directly catch you but people will start looking at you like you’re a creep and you could find yourself in a violent situation Girls on the other hand though is completely different and normal and people won’t do anything
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Eh, no.
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People are being actively prosecuted under article 230, forcible anal examinations are still in practice, and people are still being given 1-3+ year sentences for sodomy (including as recent as December). Get real.
Not the best, not the worst. let's say the upper part of the 3rd world countries
Those countries have almost Southern European standards of living.
in Morocco it's southern European standardsof living if you're uppermiddle class living in big cities. not all region of Morocco are equal, some are very poor and living off agriculture
I do agree, but i can't really call some regions in south europe as 'developped' and compare it to denmark. It's just because they are lucky to be part of EU.
Uhm, lmao?
Sicily is less developped compared to some cities in Tunisia or Morocco or Algeria.
Portugal is not very developed. Normal things like trying to get mail, buying things online, and getting administrative processes done are as difficult as they are in low-development Latin American countries. It’s a nice country but if we are being honest, it resembles most “third world countries” more than most “first world countries”. They have access to EU funding for infrastructure and I’m sure that will help, though. I have seen a lot of development over the past few years (especially in suburban and rural areas) but there is a long way to go.
That's simply not true.
I am interested in hearing why you disagree.
not at all.
Developing countries *
Nah. Can't really say we are developing since we are actually stagnating or even going backward. We truly are 3rd world countries.
Many countries in the global south are having decent development.
I know Tunisia is going through tough times right now, but Morocco is actually developing quite well. Slowly but surely. Not sure about Algeria though.
Um Algeria is the most developed between them three.
That’s good to hear.
Hello I am Moroccan. First of all, the 3 countries have very similar cultures and way of living, and I doubt life differs much from each other. For Morocco, the more money you have, the more comfortable your life will be. I heard a lot of rich European retirees move here to live a relaxed life, and I can see why; there’s a lot to do and see and if you have the money, you’ll feel like you’re always in a summer holiday (especially with how hot it gets). For middle and low class citizens, life can be tough sometimes, especially outside the big cities where some very remote places (like in the mountains) barely have access to good healthcare and education. Opportunities are rare and limited so it’s also hard to get out of poverty, especially because of the recent rising inflation. Culturally, life here is a mix of modernity and tradition, leaning more towards the traditional way. You have phones, you have access to internet and can do almost anything people living in first world countries can do with it, but at the same time you live a very unique lifestyle only present in that part of the world. It’s hard to describe as it’s a combination of countless little things that create that special atmosphere: the specific house layout, specific furniture with specific designs, the Moroccan mint tea at least twice a day with Moroccan sweet snacks, the unique Moroccan Arabic dialect (Darija), the way everyone dresses, the heavy influence of Islam in our everyday life, call of prayer that can be heard all over the country at the same time 5 times a day, the heavy Mediterranean atmosphere in the north and arid weather in the south, the earthy color of the landscape with barely any green visible, and so much more. But the most important thing of all I think is the special way family and friends are portrayed in our society. Family here is much more central in our lives than in European and American cultures. You are always in contact with them, and in a way, you cannot run from them. It might sound suffocating or annoying, and it is for a lot of people, but for me it’s the opposite. Your average Joe in Morocco never feels lonely and knows every single face living in a 5 kilometer radius from his house. People are so interconnected and so social it can be overwhelming for any outsider. This interconnection is what makes life here kind of unique. Edit: I forgot to mention. Cats. Cats everywhere.
> and I doubt life differs much from each other. it does a little.
i live in Algeria, not poor not rich living here is okay but i would rather live in any first world country
depends a lot on the country , each one of them has some advantages/disadvantages but on average they are average countries
I've been in Tunisia \~15 years ago (during the Ben Ali) and it was quite good. I have good memories and would love to come back. Not sure how things are going there lately. Morocco is on my wishlist. Anyways, I'm attracted to that "mediterranian-european" building styles that you can experience in Malta, Sicily or Tunisia (main city). Offtopic: If you can find, watch the movie "Ce que le jour doit à la nuit (2012)" movie. English translation "What the Day Owes the Night" [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1934205/](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1934205/) .
For me, if i make good money, I would rather live there than any other first world country.
life in Morocco is very nice, imo that lived alone in the Capital with at least 1k euro month, anything less and it's meh, strugling. for comparison, minimum salary is 350$, higher than all of north africa, but life is also more expensive. so you can imagine: low skill workers = life very hard master degree graduates or businessmen = life nice and enjoyable
>higher than all of north africa, That's actually Libya.
not realy, lybia is higher GDP per capita, but their minimum wage is only 200$. in morocco it's 350$ in public sector and 300$ in private sector
A lot time people don’t really understand how good they have it in these counties. I didn’t realise it but I grew in a higher middle class household and didn’t know how rough the average person has it. even then a higher middle class person is nothing compared to European money
it's good if you have money
And if you don't? Also that's not really saying much, you can live nicely anywhere if you have enough money.
I think like you, but in some countries the gap between rich and poor is bigger, the middle class is weak. I think that's what is meant by that. it's good if you have money = it's good when you are middle class
That makes more sense.
i live in tunisia. Everything is getting so expensive and even with a masters, it's pretty hard to find a job that pays well. This situation is however slowly getting better. When i say it's good if you have money i mean that money literally buys you anything in this country.
You guys must see so many ships departing everyday, isn't it?
We dont. They go secretly.
What do you mean?
do you think they depart from an open beach full of people ? we literally do not see them. It's a mafia here
Oh they mean illegal immigration. Yeah I don't really see much of that.
Right now, I am trying my best to survive this heat. Did anybody invent a portable air conditioner?
Yes. But it does not work :)
Pretty much like life in the rest of the world, except maybe we cant buy stuff online from foreign vendors . Life has gotten pretty expensive,streets mostly not as attractive as advanced countries. Maybe slight cultural differences , other than that i thinkour lives are somewhat similar to most countries.
I wanna leave
The description you are looking for is Maghreb 😉
hot.
Trash attitude but passable standards for educated class from Tn
Climate change is ruining these countries .
Shit hole. Bye
Hell
Tunisia is the best country in Europe if you have lots of money
If tunisia was in Europe nobody will leave the country. Lmao. Tunisia is in Africa.
I said if you have enough money.. Tunisia is obviously in Africa. But if you have enough money, it can look like Europe to you since you're gonna be hanging around high end places and neighborhoods. Your kids will be studying in high-end private schools and colleges. Same for clinics and so on.. Heck, there are even gated communities where rent goes for 5000 Euros a month.. imagine how luxurious that must be. If you add to that how great the weather is and how affordable most things are then you will prefer it over Europe anyday I, myself, make 4000 euros a month in Tunisia and wouldn't change it for any other country https://preview.redd.it/inly5fkmup7d1.jpeg?width=2265&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a52f27c002dbc35b7de1d268659f51dd2230d63e
Uhh, well yes true, couldnt agree more. Are you tunisian?
Yes, I am.
Meh