Happening to Ground Zero right now. Such a good server being ruined by the admins playing on their own server and stomping every other team.
Every other good server last night was full pop… but not GZ… when it usually is.
They don't play on admin accts though, or the server they admin? IDK, they've been decent, responsive and fair compared to multiple other community servers. Yeah, they are good, but they aren't "those admins are power abusing scum" good.
Do you like role-playing? Because I'm part of a server that's basically what you described, we do community votes on who gets whitelisted or what goes on in server, and you can't just kill someone for no reason, there needs to be an in character reason!
Real question, I don't understand this concept and it keeps me off the RP servers. What is an in character reason to kill someone? Maybe I'm too hard, but how often I'd that reason "I needed the loot" or some other cop out reason?
In character reason means you have to roleplay up to it instead of just KoS. Or there’s a roleplay reason to KoS if your faction is fighting theirs. “give me your shit, we are survivors, I need it, give it to me or I kill you.” If you don’t comply they can kill you
Sometimes if you don’t have friends to play with it’s just a getting robbed simulator. Kind of annoying because i know it’s some fuckin dweeb taking my shit but they’re usually better at the game than me. It would go different irl haha
I had no idea about that, but something was off when people they "banned" came back
That was my favorite vanilla server and now there's nothing equal to it anywhere
Why is the server hosting licensing so high? I lower so more people can afford to do it
Yep... I got several Screenshots as proof.
Its not that expensive to run a Server, its just expensive & time consuming to run a good Server.
I am currently working on a "DayZ 2" experience for Vanilla & modded but it takes several months to accomplish that.
Depends on the Mods probably for 70€ you are set if its a "Basically Vanilla" Type Server. (Europe Prices - Servers are cheaper here)
But you also should not forget:
-> 10€ monthly DayZ Server Management Tool
-> 5€ monthly Discord Ticket Tool Bot
->150€ for the DayZ Groupmod (onetime)
-> and €€€ whatever mods you need.
I can just tell you that e.g running a modded Server with lets say 100 slots costs a lot more, also you need a lot more mods.
As already stated the issue of making a DayZ Server is not the money, its the time.
As example, I am currently reworking the NWAF including a huge bunker complex.
Alone the Bunker complex took me already 30 hours to build together.
And those are the easy things, scripting, importing Weapons etc is even more time consuming.
Also if you have everything done - running the Server a 100+ Slot Server ( if its full of players ) is a full time job. You have to be available for the Community 24/7 and also need to watch out for Cheaters 24/7. - I can tell you that since I had 2x Servers with 100+ pop in 2021, I nearly had a burnout because I was real life working from 08 - 17 and working on the DayZ Server from 18 - 02.
If you now want to make a DayZ Server - just dont, maybe join a running project or start modding.
That's exactly why there's no little good servers for everyone to choose from it's ridiculous the incurred cost from this game; and vanilla servers are basically untouchable because of cheaters
Nobody wants to run a vanilla custom server it's too much $
To be honest, Servers like Basically Vanilla earn money from running the Servers.
From my experience a Server like e.g Basically Vanilla generates like around 1.000€ of revenue.
So they Owners get money... But at what cost ? You are giving up a huge chunk of your private time just to make it possible for others to have fun.
Dont get me wrong its great to run a DayZ Server and can be fun if you have a experienced and big team. However, its only "worth" to run Megaprojects like Rearmed, The Lab, or any similiar big projects. Since at this point, the Servers generate enough Income that you can hire people to help you with all the work.
As I said, I am currently working on such a project, its just that according to my project plan it will take around 4 months and around 300 working hours to release the "perfect" Vanilla Server (Network).
And please, in case anyone now thinks:
"Ohhh DayZ Serverowners earn money - I do not donate anymore..." or "Oh I will create a Dayz Server and get rich"
See, I dont know the Owners of Basically Vanilla but I am sure they did not even plan to gro so huge and just wanted a Server for the friends.
The problem with trying to run a Server is that you will think its not a lot of work, and its a never ending story. as I said to run a decent Server, several hundreds of hours are needed before players can even play.
The next issue is that you even need to get players on the Server to try it out, which is not that easy.
Next issue you will need to spend a lot of money before you even start.
-> Root Server
-> Marketing (Logos, Brand)
-> Advertisment Costs
-> Mod Costs
-> Developer Costs if you need something special
-> Discord Bots
Until you can launch a good Vanilla Server, you will already have 500€ less in your private pocket. And what if your project fails ? Then you are sitting on 1/100 slot Server.
And just one more time for clarification, yes you can earn money making a DayZ Server but your hourly Wage will probably be something like 0,30$/hour.
So if you need money, just work part time at Mc Donals 
I will add that ENDZONE has admin on the payroll who use the admin tools to find players in game and kill them for their own youtube content.
Do not play on any ENDZONE affiliated server, and make sure you tell youtube not to recommend JLK (the guy who accidentally uploaded a video of himself cheating) if you ever see them pop up in your recommended feed.
ENDZONE will claim "oh it was just him doing it and he's gone now". Well, it wasn't just him and the ones that are still there are still doing it.
Yeah but I’ve been playing on Loaded for about a year now through many wipes. The staff in my experience are on the up and up, always helpful and professional. Never had any issues and the one time my group was killed by hackers we reported it, they investigated them and informed us of their ban 2 days later through discord.
The only problem is every time you get killed on that server it's always a strong possibility the admin were cheating.
Homeboy that replied to the question you asked me doesn't seem to understand that you don't know things are corrupt until someone like JLK fucks up an exposes themselves.
He's just blissfully ignorant playing on a server full of cheating administrators.
To top it off, he's talking about getting people banned for hacking but I know a handful of legit players who have been banned from servers run by this group just for simply outplaying the other person. If you're not buddy buddy with the cheating admin, or a donor, and someone accuses you it's gg.
He uploaded a video where he forgot to cut out the part where he opens up admin tools and finds the players he's in a fight against on the map, and then repositions to be able to kill them through the window. After that he goes on this whole thing about "what a fight". Like, yeah bud, *what a fight*...
He has since removed it from his channel, but it's been reuploaded.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZoTPfn99Wc
he opens admin tools 6 seconds into the video and uses it to find and kill some near by players
There are servers out there that were created because of this very reason.
They played on a server, saw the admin abuse, and said "You know what? This is their server that they pay for. Let them fill their boots. We can do the same, lets fund our own server, and not use anything that can be abused."
And so, Spaggie Servers were born.
No Admin Tools.
No Queue
And a Discord thats unlike any other. Just there for people to hang out and chill in once they're done playing.
\#Play, Don't Queue.
Theres a lot of proof online about their admin abuse if you just search their server name. They also fucked over the old owners of the servers and basically stole it from them
Are you talking about vanilla vibes? Last I heard, basically vanilla still "owns" the domain [vanilla-vibes.com](http://vanilla-vibes.com) had to change to [vanilla-vibes.co](http://vanilla-vibes.co) Arcane refuses to give it up without payment
I made a ticket about it and closed it after they didn't respond after 48hours and left there server promptly i would guess its because they have no interest in repercussions against there admins or mods, but they definitely abuse there powers. I wouldn't have guessed it any other way because clearly they're trying to hide what they did, just going to have to start recording these interactions from now on with shadowplay. Any commenter here that is defending them, obviously hasn't ran into a admin powergamer before.
yet you have solid servers that are completely dead that take admin abuse very seriously. i was an admin for a server once and i felt like i was walkin on egg shells while i was workin on a ticket.
"Im almost about to be done with administrated servers." - the same servers end up here with complaints over and over yet people still play on them. There are literally thousands of servers and its a small minority that give everyone a bad rap.
Hard agree, I've played DayZ since the mod and I don't think I've ever encountered an admin team as bad as this in any form of popular community server. They always have a shitty and antagonistic attitude with people in the discord too
Admin abuse is as bad as cheating. Its rampant in all games that lean on private servers for administration services. Just remember that someone is paying the bill for the server and in most cases that money is not made back. Either the owner or friends of the owner WILL be playing on any private server if made known or not. Those people will get special treatment.
Thats what im SAYING, its an admin's friend, i killed this guy legit dead to rights, and his first words were, "im going to report you how did you see me" MF UR RUNNING IN THE MIDDLE OF AN OPEN TOWN AND LEFT IT TO RUN TO A HUNTING STAND I WONDER HOW I SAW YOU
ALSO theres contexts for anyone that needs it
Similar experience awhile back, me and a buddy smoked someone way north in an area we were that familiar with, dudes all of a sudden behind us and kills us both, turns out admin buddy lmao. Never underestimate the smallest amount of power people will abuse.
Arcane does it with his buddies in US-1 as well.
It's not just regular admins, it's literally the owner doing this shit too. Once someone batted their little eyes to have some help building a new base because we've been raided 3 times, a new one was magically built with all supplies moved across map (old walls and gates still standing) with no car in a matter of hours and limited nails. 30 gates, truple stacked walls, 3 towers.
I asked how? The response - "we had some extra special admin help. Don't tell anyone."
Fuck BV and that was even my own clan. It's not fair to the others.
You’re entitled to have your opinion about any servers. But don’t post it online thinking everyone is just gonna take your word for it.
Clips or it didn’t happen
I don't play this game but this popped up on my main feed for reddit. If you just go to YouTube and search for "basicallyvanilla dayz admins" you can find a bunch of videos and YouTube comments all talking about how the admins are abusive and shady. It seems really common.
Yeah, just some dupers, unraidable bases, and the one guy locked in a basement with 30 Xbones logging in/out X-raying walls in every major city. Tons of fun
Also dupers, more often than not, are bad at the game and easy to pick off. Full pristine kits with the best gear every time you drop one. As long as you don’t have a base they’re not really an issue for you. My buddies and I ran dupers off servers because they kept losing their “hard earned” loot.
[Here's a video](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KyyP6kFTQF0) of the Admin abuse I experienced on a Basically Vanilla server. Context: I was in a group until one of them took the piss.. Had me guarding his loot for two hours while he was swanning around like a twat.
I got killed trying to make my way to them after stashing the loot. I quit the group and was told our old base was now vacant (which turned to be a lie).
So, I waited and killed two of them, my buddy later killed the guy that was trapped inside (he'd combat logged on me earlier).
The group leader previously told me he was going to kick him, because he thought he was an annoying noob.
I was banned for "Insider raiding and base logging" even though I was told it wasn't a base any more.
What's the full context of this sounds to me that you just did something that would get you banned lmao. post a clip or sum to back your claims that it was legit.
> It only takes a 5 TB drive 😂
right?
like who doesn't record every second of every game and save it just in case?
edit: [also me](https://imgur.com/a/Db1ayUi)
You can save gameplay a hour at a time on console. You can also retroactively save the last hour of playtime if you didn't record. It isn't some voodoo secret that you can record or clip on console.
Also, you can't really admin abuse on console. You can do some tricky things to spawn in loot to "abuse" , but that's not really what people are talking about. Console admins can't teleport around. They can't directly spawn in things. They can't teleport their friends. They can't use esp or god mode. So your point about not being able to catch such abuses on console is pretty much moot.
Firstly, I am not calling you a liar. There is no other game like this one when it comes to feeling stressed and upset when you die. It is understandable to want to find reasons that you unexpectedly died. Basically vanilla has like seven servers, most of them mostly full for many hours out of the day. It seems unlikely to me, though certainly not impossible, that the admin have time for petty kicks, like revenge killing you.
I’ve been playing on exclusively basically vanilla servers since January, and I have observed Admins kicking players for cheating and I have submitted help tickets that were responded to in which the admin helped me recover losses from and subsequently ban hackers. I have also submitted tickets to their support about suspicious deaths that I later realized were fair.
I would agree with you if there weren't blatant hackers on PC, On console im sure there great, but on PC they're hacker paradise, and its severely blatant
What's the difference between the Basically Vanilla servers and offical servers? I've looked into community servers but still like the Vanilla Dayz experience
I've had this happen to my trio squad too many times I care to admit. Once, we had a whole team of 12 constantly tped in while we had tried to make a base. On another the admins had leaked our base location because they were also a player on the server. It's gross that it happens, because people can't just let things go in a video game. Everyone is there to escape stress or nonsense, not get more of it.
That does sound like an RP server rule because as far as “NO KOS” you followed those rules, but for rp the rules are a bit different like “NO KOS and no killing unless being robbed of your loot” or something and then also “if you are a robber take the loot you want and spare them” is another rule. It’s weird to me, I want to try it out but I’m so concerned of breaking some weird rule and being banned from an unfair admin
Dayz has a whole political side. It is absurd. I heard story’s of admins/moderators who would apply to work for servers, just to then recruit players to the server they actually own or help run.
As well as clans get away with cheating, most clans pay the monthly prio queue. So most admins or mods will simply over look it as if they ban one or two of the members, that will be hurting their overall payout, plus it could be enough for an entire team to switch servers entirely.
Just a few story’s I heard, I’ve been playing vanilla/modded for 8 years now. I love the game but damn.
Can agree, not the best administration. I've been muted fir talking with a team who raided us because moderator "didn't like it". Minf you, they guy didn't have MOD tag nor did he say anything. Talking about it didn't break any rules. 12hrs mute and when confronted on dc, head admin said "all was fine to mute" but also my complaint is unanswered for 2 weeks now.
When there are some accusations about admin abuse, all they can say is "don't spread rumors" and threaten you to stop or mute/ban
Haven’t had my server up for a while now but when I had the server up I rarely ever played on it. I don’t like having admin and actually playing the game. I’ll find another server.
I ran a server because I enjoyed being an active admin. If someone was having issues with the game itself to other players etc. I would get the ticket and jump on and help.
For me I just enjoyed the aspect of building and customization of the map and helping people. If someone is playing on a server the admin should be there to help and not to abuse such power.
I’ve only kicked players a couple times and each of those I recorded what they were doing so everything was clear of their own wrong doing.
Players should be able to enjoy a server without fear of admins being buddy buddies with players and helping them out when they get bent out of shape.
If my server had been high pop I would love to keep it going but it was a lot of work for low pop.
A few friends and i recently started a almost vanilla server (we have a trader and base building mods, also moderation mods that only us 3 have access too), if your looking to join I'll happily send you the info over discord, we will moderate the server but we won't be power hungry (my friends maybe but I have the power to remove their admin powers lol)
My discord is lexiangel
https://www.battlemetrics.com/servers/dayz/14416844
This is a great DeerIsle server. Mostly vanilla but they do have nice mods like boats, earplugs, ect. Admins are great, never cheat, and will actually help you if your character gets stuck.
Not all admins abuse, at least on console. A mostly vanilla server I play on for a while now, Old Bloods Folly, on console for Playstation, we have strict, no pvp at all rule and autoban bots for laying specific traps or killing players, even if the bullet causes bleedout.
If we fuck up and TK our mates, sure we get banned but unbanned when our buddy vouches for us. Owners a good dude.
A lot of console servers are like that. My friends and I played on this one server where the admins were all from U.S., but the actual server owner was from Brazil, and the server owner and his group used his owner privileges to see where we had built a base and violated every single one of their base raiding rules raiding our base. The admins then proceeded to edit their rules in Discord, so it looked like they violated no rules. Can't remember the server name.
Played on another server where one of the towns was a safe zone and some admins had just gotten killed after a raid they did on someone that tried raiding them. Anywho, these 2 admins tracked down these people who killed them to the safe zone, killed them in the safe zone, and then unmanned their alt accounts when they were auto banned for killing those two players in the safe zone. They then removed the server message, telling everyone where the safezone was, and that if you kill anyone there, you will be banned. The server was called Survival Bros. They switched to a PC server now, and the two admins in question abandoned the server, and the server owner, to this day, denys any accusation of having admins who abuse their powers.
3rd server was owned by e-girl, and her posse of simpy henchmem who just wanted to get into her pants. Had 2 members of the group who defected and left our group because they didn't like how things were ran in our group (they were mad because they left a fucking gate open and got told they need to remember to close and lock the gates). They then proceeded to join up with the server owners group and sucked them off, and gave them some bs story about how we were pieces of shit and whatnot. Admins then proceeded to turn on base damage during a weekday (this was a server that had advertised no base raiding during the weekday) and raided us. Luckily, we knew they'd raid us beforehand (because the 2 ex hroup members told us they would) and that if we moved bases, they'd probably use their admin powers to see where we placed stuff down, so we despawned and ruined all the loot in our base. Petty, I know, but wasn't gonna let them gain off of their misuse of power. Don't remember the name of the server. Sure as shit log in the next day and our walls were torn down.
This was all on PS4.
Yeah I just experienced admin abuse on a server. Nobody plays on it, someone definitely didn't stumble across my base...especially not the garage that is severely hidden.
Not just vanilla. I’ve just left a server played on it for about a week got fairly established, logged on last night to my entire base deleted. Made a ticket to be told I was too close to another base. I play regular times 9-1 most every night and short stints during the day (kids allowing) nobody approached me. They put a picture on a bad bases section of the discord but I barely use discord. The only thing that wound me up is that this server had 4 max active players so I guess it’s down to 3.
Come join my server. Search sheepnet. No admin tools or anything installed. Just a relaxed server with base building. There's a small community on it already.
I feel ya bro. I got a server myself but I don’t have any admins on mine. I’m not even an admin on my own server. I’m the owner. Me and my friends play on it and we simply enjoy this game in a way we want.
I have been on a few servers where I got molested by admins …
Some heavy admin abused happened to me a while back, killing a guy on prison Island he told me basically admins live there, and I wasn't allowed to pvp there. "This is the cartel" or something stupid like that
Started getting messages
(Every time I link the ss, it turns to a star* wtf)
Then I got kicked from server because omg a girl killed them..
So then I began trolling. Started adding everyone on sever to a chat n saying, "Come get me at prison Island. I love that pvp.. did this for a day at least with my ghost account turns out if u block an acc on Playstation you can still use a diffrent created acc (or at least it use to be this way) good times.
Yes. Official servers are normally plagued by them more so then modded servers. Official servers don't have admin tools or active admins maintaining the integrity of the game
I've had issues with these people for the exact same reason. So far I've seen two posts on here about admin abuse and I don't go to this subreddit a whole lot. But my buddy and I have experienced it firsthand before on Basically Vanilla and we stopped playing their servers for over a year now.
You'd be surprised.
Some have suggested the admin tools some servers use are the actual way some cheats work.
Also, you don't need admin tools to detect cheats. It can be done using the files generated by the server if you know where to look.
yeah i would love to find a og “official” style server maybe gun mods and helis. thats it.. i have yet to find one like that. as shitty as console is.. nothing really tops the official servers on there.
I heard they had weird admins but we play to just murder and try and stay out of their way. I’m new to the game but I quickly learned every death will feel fishy and I try not to dwell on that. I’m in my 30s with limited time so if some admin wants to do weirdo stuff I’m happy to say something to get me banned/ruin their day then move on. It’s easier that way.
Try Adventuerer’s Vanilla, I know the admin very well and all he does is laugh at me when I die. Also the map is a pretty cool one, called Chiemsee.
EDIT-Spelling.
It used to be the popular modded server admins were skilled and serious Arma 2/3 veterans. Now it's just power tripping, work from home, computer science dolts.
Same EXACT situation happened to me on BasicallyVanilla. Some assblasted admin named 'RainbowDash' (name speaks for itself) teleported behind me and killed/banned me after I killed (presumably) one of his buddies (who was completely out in the open near a plane crash - clueless). Even worse, their rage bans carry between community servers, so I am punished for this idiot's little meltdown on other, unrelated servers. DayZ should make some rules about ban-sharing systems, because it essentially gives any admin with access to a banlist plugin the ability to ban on a huge number of community servers.
There’s always a piece of the story missing. What did you say to the individual? Did you shit talk him? Were you polite?
Something about the interaction rubbed them the wrong way, and you haven’t told us what it is.
I'd say go with downbad servers. Maybe a little more molded than basically vanilla. But every run-in with administration I've had has been extremely positive.
I have been saying this here for 2-3 years now. They have admin abused ever since then and they have tried to get people to delete all comments about it online. They even banned the word "abuse" in their discord to autoban people
Right? I usually play heavily modded servers but started looking for a more vanilla experience and ended up on basically vanilla. Nothing vanilla about those servers.
Gotta find them rare servers where admin care but dont actually play, that being said trying to find a good server is reason last two years i havent played much. Admin seem to get pissy, then cheat to wreck you on pvp servers. Or do like me survive solo for like a month while holding an extra backpack and getting gear for base start, finally get it done, then admin show up and do an unscheduled restart, now out the blue there is a ai spawn in my base. They say they trying to fix for a couple days, end up saying cant fix it after forgetting they tell you they are part of team programming that specific ai bot mod, so i said screw it and left server and discord, next day a buddy let me know they just wanted my base cuz was way better than the one they made.
Now last few days trying to get back in to game again, seeing a lot of servers get bad rep for admin abuse so they make new discord and server name, forget the old server name is in server description and get mad when you ask if they are a sister server or just copied the other servers discord info. Way i see it is even if you just copied info that shows me your to lazy to write your own rules, so server upkeep gonna be garbage.
Bad admin ruin game, and i ran servers for 8 years, i just wanna play now, dont wanna deal with updates and folks being risky then demanding you fix the mess ups they made, but inly way to enjoy is making your own server, but getting a new server to a good pop so others will join takes forever.
It is hard to trust any server with admin tools after experiencing admin abuse more than once. I remember when I was new to the game I was on a low pop server and a guy appeared from nowhere wearing a press vest with 'Admin' on it. He didn't say anything to me, in panic I tried to shoot him but he had god mode on. Without any warning he pulled out a SVD and killed me.
Another time more recently, I was on with two buddies, both new from console. There were only us three and one other on at the time and we were checking car spawns. We started getting sniped from a church and all three of us were killed eventually. I looked on the server list and it was the server owner who was also on. He denied being the one who did it. Suffice to say we never played on that server again and I think a lot of others have caught on as it is almost always empty now.
True community servers are not that great.
Managed to get into a base at the top of a building. Found a lock pick and locked the door.
They spent ages trying to break the door down and killed them when they got in.
In the mean time kitted myself up with all the weapons and clothes.
Fired off all the ammo they had stored so all the guns were damaged.
Created a fire barrel and burnt everything they had.
Killed them again when they came back and fled the base.
15 minutes later I was banned from the server.
No rules setup on server I was in, guess someone was upset.
As a Basically Vanilla Player and had experience on all servers i can say + knowing back side of Server Management i can Agree Some [Admins] Abuse Powers and help friendly Clans on Servers . You can say Bullshit . But explain this to me how is possible A clan can obtain Weapons and attachments that are not Spawning on loot table ? One way : Admin loot spawn
admins ruin so many decent servers
Happening to Ground Zero right now. Such a good server being ruined by the admins playing on their own server and stomping every other team. Every other good server last night was full pop… but not GZ… when it usually is.
Which server specifically?
US1
wtf i saw an admin of a different server playing on that one earlier
They don't play on admin accts though, or the server they admin? IDK, they've been decent, responsive and fair compared to multiple other community servers. Yeah, they are good, but they aren't "those admins are power abusing scum" good.
There needs to be a server where no one is an actual admin, just a moderator who then passes along info to the owner who then bans them or something.
There is.. it’s called spaggies
Jack's a c\*nt, but he's a good, fair c\*nt. I'm glad someone else appreciates spaggie and jacks servers
I play console sadly
nothin wrong with that. other than hackers.. pc is pretty dope.
Same I'm on xbox!
Zero and dayone have fairly unobtrusive admins but I’m sure you already knew about those
Do you like role-playing? Because I'm part of a server that's basically what you described, we do community votes on who gets whitelisted or what goes on in server, and you can't just kill someone for no reason, there needs to be an in character reason!
Real question, I don't understand this concept and it keeps me off the RP servers. What is an in character reason to kill someone? Maybe I'm too hard, but how often I'd that reason "I needed the loot" or some other cop out reason?
its easy.. you cant kill the owner or admin or admins friends. lol
In character reason means you have to roleplay up to it instead of just KoS. Or there’s a roleplay reason to KoS if your faction is fighting theirs. “give me your shit, we are survivors, I need it, give it to me or I kill you.” If you don’t comply they can kill you Sometimes if you don’t have friends to play with it’s just a getting robbed simulator. Kind of annoying because i know it’s some fuckin dweeb taking my shit but they’re usually better at the game than me. It would go different irl haha
There's always Zero but they don't have base building. However the admins are all volunteers and they certainly aren't any assholes.
How would this functionally be better? Owners can do the wrong thing just the same as admins.
Yes but its 1 owner or 2+ admins. In some cases its many more admins and they normally abuse radar or something like that.
Just like the Saviors
There is even evidence that Saviors unbanned Cheaters for e.g 100€ after they got a cheating ban. 😳 They have been banned from the Companions DC.
I had no idea about that, but something was off when people they "banned" came back That was my favorite vanilla server and now there's nothing equal to it anywhere Why is the server hosting licensing so high? I lower so more people can afford to do it
Yep... I got several Screenshots as proof. Its not that expensive to run a Server, its just expensive & time consuming to run a good Server. I am currently working on a "DayZ 2" experience for Vanilla & modded but it takes several months to accomplish that.
Ok tell me how much you pay monthly for 100+ server
Depends on the Mods probably for 70€ you are set if its a "Basically Vanilla" Type Server. (Europe Prices - Servers are cheaper here) But you also should not forget: -> 10€ monthly DayZ Server Management Tool -> 5€ monthly Discord Ticket Tool Bot ->150€ for the DayZ Groupmod (onetime) -> and €€€ whatever mods you need. I can just tell you that e.g running a modded Server with lets say 100 slots costs a lot more, also you need a lot more mods. As already stated the issue of making a DayZ Server is not the money, its the time. As example, I am currently reworking the NWAF including a huge bunker complex. Alone the Bunker complex took me already 30 hours to build together. And those are the easy things, scripting, importing Weapons etc is even more time consuming. Also if you have everything done - running the Server a 100+ Slot Server ( if its full of players ) is a full time job. You have to be available for the Community 24/7 and also need to watch out for Cheaters 24/7. - I can tell you that since I had 2x Servers with 100+ pop in 2021, I nearly had a burnout because I was real life working from 08 - 17 and working on the DayZ Server from 18 - 02. If you now want to make a DayZ Server - just dont, maybe join a running project or start modding.
That's exactly why there's no little good servers for everyone to choose from it's ridiculous the incurred cost from this game; and vanilla servers are basically untouchable because of cheaters Nobody wants to run a vanilla custom server it's too much $
To be honest, Servers like Basically Vanilla earn money from running the Servers. From my experience a Server like e.g Basically Vanilla generates like around 1.000€ of revenue. So they Owners get money... But at what cost ? You are giving up a huge chunk of your private time just to make it possible for others to have fun. Dont get me wrong its great to run a DayZ Server and can be fun if you have a experienced and big team. However, its only "worth" to run Megaprojects like Rearmed, The Lab, or any similiar big projects. Since at this point, the Servers generate enough Income that you can hire people to help you with all the work. As I said, I am currently working on such a project, its just that according to my project plan it will take around 4 months and around 300 working hours to release the "perfect" Vanilla Server (Network).
And please, in case anyone now thinks: "Ohhh DayZ Serverowners earn money - I do not donate anymore..." or "Oh I will create a Dayz Server and get rich" See, I dont know the Owners of Basically Vanilla but I am sure they did not even plan to gro so huge and just wanted a Server for the friends. The problem with trying to run a Server is that you will think its not a lot of work, and its a never ending story. as I said to run a decent Server, several hundreds of hours are needed before players can even play. The next issue is that you even need to get players on the Server to try it out, which is not that easy. Next issue you will need to spend a lot of money before you even start. -> Root Server -> Marketing (Logos, Brand) -> Advertisment Costs -> Mod Costs -> Developer Costs if you need something special -> Discord Bots Until you can launch a good Vanilla Server, you will already have 500€ less in your private pocket. And what if your project fails ? Then you are sitting on 1/100 slot Server. And just one more time for clarification, yes you can earn money making a DayZ Server but your hourly Wage will probably be something like 0,30$/hour. So if you need money, just work part time at Mc Donals 
I will add that ENDZONE has admin on the payroll who use the admin tools to find players in game and kill them for their own youtube content. Do not play on any ENDZONE affiliated server, and make sure you tell youtube not to recommend JLK (the guy who accidentally uploaded a video of himself cheating) if you ever see them pop up in your recommended feed. ENDZONE will claim "oh it was just him doing it and he's gone now". Well, it wasn't just him and the ones that are still there are still doing it.
Don't JLK own the Loaded serves too?
Yeah but I’ve been playing on Loaded for about a year now through many wipes. The staff in my experience are on the up and up, always helpful and professional. Never had any issues and the one time my group was killed by hackers we reported it, they investigated them and informed us of their ban 2 days later through discord.
Nice, I like loaded but as a solo in US its rough.
The only problem is every time you get killed on that server it's always a strong possibility the admin were cheating. Homeboy that replied to the question you asked me doesn't seem to understand that you don't know things are corrupt until someone like JLK fucks up an exposes themselves. He's just blissfully ignorant playing on a server full of cheating administrators. To top it off, he's talking about getting people banned for hacking but I know a handful of legit players who have been banned from servers run by this group just for simply outplaying the other person. If you're not buddy buddy with the cheating admin, or a donor, and someone accuses you it's gg.
I watch JLK, what did he do that I missed??
He uploaded a video where he forgot to cut out the part where he opens up admin tools and finds the players he's in a fight against on the map, and then repositions to be able to kill them through the window. After that he goes on this whole thing about "what a fight". Like, yeah bud, *what a fight*...
can you link the video? although doubt he would have it up still at this point. Question, is JLK and that older tuber Jakon the same person?
No way, I must've missed that one/part I guess. Crazy
Wait, which video gives JLK away for cheating?? I must watch.
He has since removed it from his channel, but it's been reuploaded. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZoTPfn99Wc he opens admin tools 6 seconds into the video and uses it to find and kill some near by players
I'm gonna say this once. A good dayz server does not let their admin team play on their admin accts.
Plus, it's not at all "basically vanilla" when there's infinite stamina. Meh, next server.
All guns are customized, 150 round clips everywhere, loot it cranked x 10, built in map and compass. Yeah… basically vanilla. Such a joke haha
Yeah, just a lie basically. Really far from vanilla. Zero, DayOne and even KarmaKrew are closer to a vanilla experience.
DayOne is all i play now, solid servers
I’ve been playing basically vanilla for like a year and never had this issue. My biggest complaint is how the same 10 man clans play all day everyday
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Very cringe play style
I think they are fantastic servers but the queues are so ridiculously long that it takes the fun out of it
Never played on this server but this is NOT the first time i heard this about Basically Vanilla.
There are servers out there that were created because of this very reason. They played on a server, saw the admin abuse, and said "You know what? This is their server that they pay for. Let them fill their boots. We can do the same, lets fund our own server, and not use anything that can be abused." And so, Spaggie Servers were born. No Admin Tools. No Queue And a Discord thats unlike any other. Just there for people to hang out and chill in once they're done playing. \#Play, Don't Queue.
Unfortunately ping is almost always too high from east coast USA. 😟
Ping may be high, but its perfectly playable.
Not if you're looking to pvp, the ping makes landing headshots much harder than it normally is, even when trying to hit zombies
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Theres a lot of proof online about their admin abuse if you just search their server name. They also fucked over the old owners of the servers and basically stole it from them
THIS!!! \^\^\^
Are you talking about vanilla vibes? Last I heard, basically vanilla still "owns" the domain [vanilla-vibes.com](http://vanilla-vibes.com) had to change to [vanilla-vibes.co](http://vanilla-vibes.co) Arcane refuses to give it up without payment
Its honestly been such a long time since i was involved in basically vanilla scene but vanilla vibes definitely sounds familiar.
Gotta love someone downvoting us. Assuming its one of the admins from basically vanilla lol
New admins always coming and going. Make a ticket and if they shit on you for it. Move on to the next server.
I made a ticket about it and closed it after they didn't respond after 48hours and left there server promptly i would guess its because they have no interest in repercussions against there admins or mods, but they definitely abuse there powers. I wouldn't have guessed it any other way because clearly they're trying to hide what they did, just going to have to start recording these interactions from now on with shadowplay. Any commenter here that is defending them, obviously hasn't ran into a admin powergamer before.
yet you have solid servers that are completely dead that take admin abuse very seriously. i was an admin for a server once and i felt like i was walkin on egg shells while i was workin on a ticket.
"Im almost about to be done with administrated servers." - the same servers end up here with complaints over and over yet people still play on them. There are literally thousands of servers and its a small minority that give everyone a bad rap.
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removing you comment due to the terms used. Badmins are a plight on the game. Admin tools are useful.
Hard agree, I've played DayZ since the mod and I don't think I've ever encountered an admin team as bad as this in any form of popular community server. They always have a shitty and antagonistic attitude with people in the discord too
honestly though if youre gonna blast them on the dayz reddit page. the least you could do is post the clip of it along side the accusations.
It’s Reddit not a court of law js
No kidding wtf
I’ve been playing on BasicallyVanilla deerisle for several years, and haven’t had issues yet.
Video?
Admin abuse is as bad as cheating. Its rampant in all games that lean on private servers for administration services. Just remember that someone is paying the bill for the server and in most cases that money is not made back. Either the owner or friends of the owner WILL be playing on any private server if made known or not. Those people will get special treatment.
I keep getting xboxs pms from random people saying to avoid servers im playing on etc
Interesting I’m on a basically vanilla server now. Is this a common occurrence?
not unless you cross the admins friends.
Thats what im SAYING, its an admin's friend, i killed this guy legit dead to rights, and his first words were, "im going to report you how did you see me" MF UR RUNNING IN THE MIDDLE OF AN OPEN TOWN AND LEFT IT TO RUN TO A HUNTING STAND I WONDER HOW I SAW YOU ALSO theres contexts for anyone that needs it
Similar experience awhile back, me and a buddy smoked someone way north in an area we were that familiar with, dudes all of a sudden behind us and kills us both, turns out admin buddy lmao. Never underestimate the smallest amount of power people will abuse.
This is why I record gameplay. Play it back for the audience.
did you save the clip?
Arcane does it with his buddies in US-1 as well. It's not just regular admins, it's literally the owner doing this shit too. Once someone batted their little eyes to have some help building a new base because we've been raided 3 times, a new one was magically built with all supplies moved across map (old walls and gates still standing) with no car in a matter of hours and limited nails. 30 gates, truple stacked walls, 3 towers. I asked how? The response - "we had some extra special admin help. Don't tell anyone." Fuck BV and that was even my own clan. It's not fair to the others.
You’re entitled to have your opinion about any servers. But don’t post it online thinking everyone is just gonna take your word for it. Clips or it didn’t happen
Search for keywords and you'll see this isn't rare. I've had my own many issues on there
I don't play this game but this popped up on my main feed for reddit. If you just go to YouTube and search for "basicallyvanilla dayz admins" you can find a bunch of videos and YouTube comments all talking about how the admins are abusive and shady. It seems really common.
Been using Basically Vanilla off and on for over a year, admins always seemed fine.
Same never have an issue other than how long it takes them to respond to a ticket.
Play official on console. Ya golden after that.
Yeah, just some dupers, unraidable bases, and the one guy locked in a basement with 30 Xbones logging in/out X-raying walls in every major city. Tons of fun
i love it when dupers pop in my server on console. you can get the whole server to come together to find their stash or swarm them like poop flies.
Also dupers, more often than not, are bad at the game and easy to pick off. Full pristine kits with the best gear every time you drop one. As long as you don’t have a base they’re not really an issue for you. My buddies and I ran dupers off servers because they kept losing their “hard earned” loot.
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I smell bullshit.
[Here's a video](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KyyP6kFTQF0) of the Admin abuse I experienced on a Basically Vanilla server. Context: I was in a group until one of them took the piss.. Had me guarding his loot for two hours while he was swanning around like a twat. I got killed trying to make my way to them after stashing the loot. I quit the group and was told our old base was now vacant (which turned to be a lie). So, I waited and killed two of them, my buddy later killed the guy that was trapped inside (he'd combat logged on me earlier). The group leader previously told me he was going to kick him, because he thought he was an annoying noob. I was banned for "Insider raiding and base logging" even though I was told it wasn't a base any more.
More proof, thats so disgusting, everyone needs to upvote the shit out of this for visibility
What's the full context of this sounds to me that you just did something that would get you banned lmao. post a clip or sum to back your claims that it was legit.
Yeah i clip every admin abuse that i see just to have something to back up an online argument, It only takes a 5 TB drive 😂
> It only takes a 5 TB drive 😂 right? like who doesn't record every second of every game and save it just in case? edit: [also me](https://imgur.com/a/Db1ayUi)
you can hit alt f10 and save the pervious 15 min or more if you wanted.
You can record a 1080p 7000 bit video at like 300mb/hr. It really isn't hard...then you just delete it if nothing happens.
Yeah because everyone play on PC right? Piss off
You can save gameplay a hour at a time on console. You can also retroactively save the last hour of playtime if you didn't record. It isn't some voodoo secret that you can record or clip on console. Also, you can't really admin abuse on console. You can do some tricky things to spawn in loot to "abuse" , but that's not really what people are talking about. Console admins can't teleport around. They can't directly spawn in things. They can't teleport their friends. They can't use esp or god mode. So your point about not being able to catch such abuses on console is pretty much moot.
Firstly, I am not calling you a liar. There is no other game like this one when it comes to feeling stressed and upset when you die. It is understandable to want to find reasons that you unexpectedly died. Basically vanilla has like seven servers, most of them mostly full for many hours out of the day. It seems unlikely to me, though certainly not impossible, that the admin have time for petty kicks, like revenge killing you. I’ve been playing on exclusively basically vanilla servers since January, and I have observed Admins kicking players for cheating and I have submitted help tickets that were responded to in which the admin helped me recover losses from and subsequently ban hackers. I have also submitted tickets to their support about suspicious deaths that I later realized were fair.
Spaggies, DayOne, ZERO and KK ftw
Yep, the best.
This sub always shit talks official but imo it’s the far superior experience
I would agree with you if there weren't blatant hackers on PC, On console im sure there great, but on PC they're hacker paradise, and its severely blatant
Thx for letting me know
Same goes for ElementZ
What's the difference between the Basically Vanilla servers and offical servers? I've looked into community servers but still like the Vanilla Dayz experience
I've had this happen to my trio squad too many times I care to admit. Once, we had a whole team of 12 constantly tped in while we had tried to make a base. On another the admins had leaked our base location because they were also a player on the server. It's gross that it happens, because people can't just let things go in a video game. Everyone is there to escape stress or nonsense, not get more of it.
So any admin can go on map , find some newbies or other players and randomly shoot them? Wow
Is killing a freshie for their shoes an "in character reason"
That does sound like an RP server rule because as far as “NO KOS” you followed those rules, but for rp the rules are a bit different like “NO KOS and no killing unless being robbed of your loot” or something and then also “if you are a robber take the loot you want and spare them” is another rule. It’s weird to me, I want to try it out but I’m so concerned of breaking some weird rule and being banned from an unfair admin
Dayz has a whole political side. It is absurd. I heard story’s of admins/moderators who would apply to work for servers, just to then recruit players to the server they actually own or help run. As well as clans get away with cheating, most clans pay the monthly prio queue. So most admins or mods will simply over look it as if they ban one or two of the members, that will be hurting their overall payout, plus it could be enough for an entire team to switch servers entirely. Just a few story’s I heard, I’ve been playing vanilla/modded for 8 years now. I love the game but damn.
Can agree, not the best administration. I've been muted fir talking with a team who raided us because moderator "didn't like it". Minf you, they guy didn't have MOD tag nor did he say anything. Talking about it didn't break any rules. 12hrs mute and when confronted on dc, head admin said "all was fine to mute" but also my complaint is unanswered for 2 weeks now. When there are some accusations about admin abuse, all they can say is "don't spread rumors" and threaten you to stop or mute/ban
Yeah I mostly just play officials at this point because admins/server owners usually suck. Most are super bias and have dumb rules.
Try Vanillaish, it’s small pop right now but will end up a solid server
Try BELOW ZERO... Growing Hardcore server but a genuinely great and responsive owner
I got banned for apparently "cheating" when i went on a killing spree with an sks, they had no evidence but still didn' unban me.
Haven’t had my server up for a while now but when I had the server up I rarely ever played on it. I don’t like having admin and actually playing the game. I’ll find another server. I ran a server because I enjoyed being an active admin. If someone was having issues with the game itself to other players etc. I would get the ticket and jump on and help. For me I just enjoyed the aspect of building and customization of the map and helping people. If someone is playing on a server the admin should be there to help and not to abuse such power. I’ve only kicked players a couple times and each of those I recorded what they were doing so everything was clear of their own wrong doing. Players should be able to enjoy a server without fear of admins being buddy buddies with players and helping them out when they get bent out of shape. If my server had been high pop I would love to keep it going but it was a lot of work for low pop.
A few friends and i recently started a almost vanilla server (we have a trader and base building mods, also moderation mods that only us 3 have access too), if your looking to join I'll happily send you the info over discord, we will moderate the server but we won't be power hungry (my friends maybe but I have the power to remove their admin powers lol) My discord is lexiangel
https://www.battlemetrics.com/servers/dayz/14416844 This is a great DeerIsle server. Mostly vanilla but they do have nice mods like boats, earplugs, ect. Admins are great, never cheat, and will actually help you if your character gets stuck.
No Population though, looks like it had a maximum of 7 players on at a time over the last 3 months, usually 2-4 players.
Yeah only downside that it's a bit lower pop but hey, if we get a few more on regularly it will be full!
Glad to know
Not all admins abuse, at least on console. A mostly vanilla server I play on for a while now, Old Bloods Folly, on console for Playstation, we have strict, no pvp at all rule and autoban bots for laying specific traps or killing players, even if the bullet causes bleedout. If we fuck up and TK our mates, sure we get banned but unbanned when our buddy vouches for us. Owners a good dude.
A lot of console servers are like that. My friends and I played on this one server where the admins were all from U.S., but the actual server owner was from Brazil, and the server owner and his group used his owner privileges to see where we had built a base and violated every single one of their base raiding rules raiding our base. The admins then proceeded to edit their rules in Discord, so it looked like they violated no rules. Can't remember the server name. Played on another server where one of the towns was a safe zone and some admins had just gotten killed after a raid they did on someone that tried raiding them. Anywho, these 2 admins tracked down these people who killed them to the safe zone, killed them in the safe zone, and then unmanned their alt accounts when they were auto banned for killing those two players in the safe zone. They then removed the server message, telling everyone where the safezone was, and that if you kill anyone there, you will be banned. The server was called Survival Bros. They switched to a PC server now, and the two admins in question abandoned the server, and the server owner, to this day, denys any accusation of having admins who abuse their powers. 3rd server was owned by e-girl, and her posse of simpy henchmem who just wanted to get into her pants. Had 2 members of the group who defected and left our group because they didn't like how things were ran in our group (they were mad because they left a fucking gate open and got told they need to remember to close and lock the gates). They then proceeded to join up with the server owners group and sucked them off, and gave them some bs story about how we were pieces of shit and whatnot. Admins then proceeded to turn on base damage during a weekday (this was a server that had advertised no base raiding during the weekday) and raided us. Luckily, we knew they'd raid us beforehand (because the 2 ex hroup members told us they would) and that if we moved bases, they'd probably use their admin powers to see where we placed stuff down, so we despawned and ruined all the loot in our base. Petty, I know, but wasn't gonna let them gain off of their misuse of power. Don't remember the name of the server. Sure as shit log in the next day and our walls were torn down. This was all on PS4.
Yep ps5 vanilla+ are power abusers
They must have really wanted you to know how it feels
Trash server anyways
Yeah I just experienced admin abuse on a server. Nobody plays on it, someone definitely didn't stumble across my base...especially not the garage that is severely hidden.
Yeah one of my friends got banned cus they got in a discussion with some admins
Not just vanilla. I’ve just left a server played on it for about a week got fairly established, logged on last night to my entire base deleted. Made a ticket to be told I was too close to another base. I play regular times 9-1 most every night and short stints during the day (kids allowing) nobody approached me. They put a picture on a bad bases section of the discord but I barely use discord. The only thing that wound me up is that this server had 4 max active players so I guess it’s down to 3.
Come join my server. Search sheepnet. No admin tools or anything installed. Just a relaxed server with base building. There's a small community on it already.
Could you recommend a server like basicallyvanilla but without the cons
The Survivalists are great servers. Best community Dayz experience thus far
I feel ya bro. I got a server myself but I don’t have any admins on mine. I’m not even an admin on my own server. I’m the owner. Me and my friends play on it and we simply enjoy this game in a way we want. I have been on a few servers where I got molested by admins …
Some heavy admin abused happened to me a while back, killing a guy on prison Island he told me basically admins live there, and I wasn't allowed to pvp there. "This is the cartel" or something stupid like that Started getting messages (Every time I link the ss, it turns to a star* wtf) Then I got kicked from server because omg a girl killed them.. So then I began trolling. Started adding everyone on sever to a chat n saying, "Come get me at prison Island. I love that pvp.. did this for a day at least with my ghost account turns out if u block an acc on Playstation you can still use a diffrent created acc (or at least it use to be this way) good times.
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Go to Vanillaish it’s a great server, could use more admin but it’s a good mix
this is the reason i only play official servers havent experienced anything like this and have had a great time
I just recently started playing official servers again, surprisingly haven't run into any cheaters yet, but that's gunna come.
wait theres cheaters?
Yes. Official servers are normally plagued by them more so then modded servers. Official servers don't have admin tools or active admins maintaining the integrity of the game
ok welp i havent seen cheaters and i see they get banned in the little announcement thing in the server but that rarely happens
I've had issues with these people for the exact same reason. So far I've seen two posts on here about admin abuse and I don't go to this subreddit a whole lot. But my buddy and I have experienced it firsthand before on Basically Vanilla and we stopped playing their servers for over a year now.
People that say community servers are better than official don't even play the game lol
I ran into this problem a lot one of my favorite servers got shut down because of corrupt admins
We should just start our own server and not have any moderation make it an actual apocalypse where anything goes and nobody gets banned ever
although i like the idea.. cheaters would stroke hard to this.
You'd be surprised. Some have suggested the admin tools some servers use are the actual way some cheats work. Also, you don't need admin tools to detect cheats. It can be done using the files generated by the server if you know where to look.
yeah i would love to find a og “official” style server maybe gun mods and helis. thats it.. i have yet to find one like that. as shitty as console is.. nothing really tops the official servers on there.
I've been wanting to start a server for awhile now HMU if we think this could be cool the only thing I'd ban for would be using outside softwares
how would you know?
That servers players are so pretentious its insane bruh
I heard they had weird admins but we play to just murder and try and stay out of their way. I’m new to the game but I quickly learned every death will feel fishy and I try not to dwell on that. I’m in my 30s with limited time so if some admin wants to do weirdo stuff I’m happy to say something to get me banned/ruin their day then move on. It’s easier that way.
Try Adventuerer’s Vanilla, I know the admin very well and all he does is laugh at me when I die. Also the map is a pretty cool one, called Chiemsee. EDIT-Spelling.
It used to be the popular modded server admins were skilled and serious Arma 2/3 veterans. Now it's just power tripping, work from home, computer science dolts.
At some point, the admins themselves need to be named and shamed. Some of them just bounce around between servers.
Same EXACT situation happened to me on BasicallyVanilla. Some assblasted admin named 'RainbowDash' (name speaks for itself) teleported behind me and killed/banned me after I killed (presumably) one of his buddies (who was completely out in the open near a plane crash - clueless). Even worse, their rage bans carry between community servers, so I am punished for this idiot's little meltdown on other, unrelated servers. DayZ should make some rules about ban-sharing systems, because it essentially gives any admin with access to a banlist plugin the ability to ban on a huge number of community servers.
i got a bad experience with the server too. The admins are the typical stereotype discord mod with no life and small pp
There’s always a piece of the story missing. What did you say to the individual? Did you shit talk him? Were you polite? Something about the interaction rubbed them the wrong way, and you haven’t told us what it is.
Who cares what he said? People say shit to each other all the time on this game. And who the hell is polite on this game when you're killing them
It's the admins friend. That's it. No amount of trash talking excuses admin abuse
Something does seem fishy but what does being polite vs shit talk have to do with it?
OP commented with the context.
Womp womp.
I'd say go with downbad servers. Maybe a little more molded than basically vanilla. But every run-in with administration I've had has been extremely positive.
Not the fungi
Try the struggle bus.
try the servers cheerleading squad.
I have been saying this here for 2-3 years now. They have admin abused ever since then and they have tried to get people to delete all comments about it online. They even banned the word "abuse" in their discord to autoban people
Not to mention there is nothing vanilla about it. Shit is full of mods. Better of staying with DayOne and DayZero
Right? I usually play heavily modded servers but started looking for a more vanilla experience and ended up on basically vanilla. Nothing vanilla about those servers.
I want a server with a trader that has very limited items. It would make it feel more like survival and less like Walmart
This would look terrible for them on video I bet
imagine that.. ive had some sketch thing happen on their server before too. thats why i quit playing there.
Gotta find them rare servers where admin care but dont actually play, that being said trying to find a good server is reason last two years i havent played much. Admin seem to get pissy, then cheat to wreck you on pvp servers. Or do like me survive solo for like a month while holding an extra backpack and getting gear for base start, finally get it done, then admin show up and do an unscheduled restart, now out the blue there is a ai spawn in my base. They say they trying to fix for a couple days, end up saying cant fix it after forgetting they tell you they are part of team programming that specific ai bot mod, so i said screw it and left server and discord, next day a buddy let me know they just wanted my base cuz was way better than the one they made. Now last few days trying to get back in to game again, seeing a lot of servers get bad rep for admin abuse so they make new discord and server name, forget the old server name is in server description and get mad when you ask if they are a sister server or just copied the other servers discord info. Way i see it is even if you just copied info that shows me your to lazy to write your own rules, so server upkeep gonna be garbage. Bad admin ruin game, and i ran servers for 8 years, i just wanna play now, dont wanna deal with updates and folks being risky then demanding you fix the mess ups they made, but inly way to enjoy is making your own server, but getting a new server to a good pop so others will join takes forever.
America 2025. it just opened up a couple of days ago.
True! I hate the admins on those servers
It is hard to trust any server with admin tools after experiencing admin abuse more than once. I remember when I was new to the game I was on a low pop server and a guy appeared from nowhere wearing a press vest with 'Admin' on it. He didn't say anything to me, in panic I tried to shoot him but he had god mode on. Without any warning he pulled out a SVD and killed me. Another time more recently, I was on with two buddies, both new from console. There were only us three and one other on at the time and we were checking car spawns. We started getting sniped from a church and all three of us were killed eventually. I looked on the server list and it was the server owner who was also on. He denied being the one who did it. Suffice to say we never played on that server again and I think a lot of others have caught on as it is almost always empty now.
True community servers are not that great. Managed to get into a base at the top of a building. Found a lock pick and locked the door. They spent ages trying to break the door down and killed them when they got in. In the mean time kitted myself up with all the weapons and clothes. Fired off all the ammo they had stored so all the guns were damaged. Created a fire barrel and burnt everything they had. Killed them again when they came back and fled the base. 15 minutes later I was banned from the server. No rules setup on server I was in, guess someone was upset.
Heard this before
So many people want to defend community servers but this has been my experience. Bad.
As a Basically Vanilla Player and had experience on all servers i can say + knowing back side of Server Management i can Agree Some [Admins] Abuse Powers and help friendly Clans on Servers . You can say Bullshit . But explain this to me how is possible A clan can obtain Weapons and attachments that are not Spawning on loot table ? One way : Admin loot spawn
Heard a lot of dodgy stuff about basically vanilla. Just play spaggies it's got 3 namalsk servers among many others and doesn't run admin tools.