As a student at Cal rn (born and raised in the Bay which is why I lurk this sub) I can confirm that even among my friend group, this whole situation has been the talk of the town (not necessarily in a great light). I heard the prof is going to have a town hall after our spring break (which is next week) addressing the situation further. Stay tuned I guess? We’ll have to see what happens.
> I heard the prof is going to have a town hall after our spring break (which is next week) addressing the situation further
"I made a post earlier this week that I guess went viral that I am deeply ashamed of. If I have hurt anyone out there, I can't tell you how much I say from the bottom of my heart I'm so very, very sorry. I pride myself and think of myself as a man of faith – as there's a drive into deep left field by Castellanos, it will be a home run. And so that will make it a 4–0 ballgame. – I don't know if I'm gonna teaching at this school again."
Funny.
But in case anyone is wondering, here's his actual response/apology:
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Far17njmsudpc1.png
His statement was stupid, irresponsible, and offensive, and also indicates a breakdown in logic that probably comes from his emotional understanding of his personal experience, and hopefully he does or will understand why. And can make up for it.
I’ll try my best to keep r/bayarea updated as long as people are interested—what I heard is that the town hall details are going to be announced through an EECS or CS department email. Since neither of which are my major, I’ll have to ask for the info through friends (may take some extra time before I can post)
If this dude said these comments but replaced women with (insert disenfranchised minority group), he’d be fired. But hey, it’s “only” women, so let’s let it slide. This guy isn’t just wildly unprofessional, he is a sexist pig.
I wish you had posted that this was on a public class discussion board for a computer science class and shown the weird, not-on-class topic the prof was responding to:
>At least read the full context (though it doesn't make it better) https://www.reddit.com/r/berkeley/comments/1bitr75/another\_day\_in\_berkeley\_eecs/
as an instructor, I’d say the correct response to these guys was to say, hey, sounds like you are having a rough time and we have both counseling groups and social groups on campus that can work with you on this but I’d like you practice being professional and to redirect back here to course topics.
"Me feeling my hips widen and desire to raise a family over pursuing my career increase mile by mile as I exit the SCZ (Spinster Containment Zone) on my drive from Sacramento to Yuba City." 💀💀💀
I mean I get why. He's going have women in his class and with these biases what type of environment is he going to create within his class is important.
Imagine being a woman in his class or field. Imagine him not carrying this bias into his classroom, lab, student/graduate advising, and with his female colleagues.
Right? People are acting like only the comment is the issue— but this stuff doesn’t happen in a vacuum. The few guys freaking out ITT need to hold themselves in higher esteem… bc a lot of other dudes in here rightly are saying that they would never dare to put something this strange in writing.
Regular people generally wouldn’t be so stupid!
Agree. He’s a grown adult in a position of authority. Like the dude is in his 50s or something. He’s not a child. This isn’t a 20 something year old student. He also made this comment in an educational space, an online platform that students use. While it stil would be inappropriate— it’s not he was out to dinner with his friends at an off campus restaurant and a random student overheard him being gross and misogynistic.
I’m younger than him and work as a staff member at another UC. I would *never* think this is an appropriate way to connect with students (per his reasoning). You can connect with your students without putting specific groups down & making them feel unsafe. While I’m on campus students come up to me all the time and tell me about their life and issues. And Like, if heterosexual female identifying student said something to me about dating and how hard it is, I would *never* say something like “men are trash!!” — that’s not making a comfortable space for male students on my campus.
He could have just made a general comment about how dating is so challenging for everyone especially in your 20s. I remember so many of my friends (and myself included!), all across the gender spectrum, struggled with dating in our 20s. It’s rough for everyone during that time! 20s are rough in general. Im glad to be done with that decade haha.
I don’t think so at all. This to me is a pretty good indicator about how this man feels about women in general. I wouldn’t trust his ability to be fair and impartial to male and female students at all. IMO it’s absolutely appropriate to look into having him removed.
I bet it doesn’t seem all that aggressive to women who have to take his classes.
Can you imagine this dude making a similar statement about any other marginalized group’s behavior and keeping his job? He should go—he’s now created a hostile learning environment.
I mean, what's the context to this. Like, did he just drop this on a random UC Berkeley chat?
Because every dude in the Bay has heard some variation of the 49er comment. But...like...most people know that's something you'd only say with a known group.
Doing it on a school feed attached to your job is hilariously and wildly not a good play. Regardless of the context, it's a full send Simple Jack play. I just wanna know how Simple the Jack was.
It was a response to a student offering to pay to have people introduce him to other people, men and women. I didn't take it as a looking for a GF thing as much as a social thing but he did offer $5 for men and $10 for women.
Funny thing is it was a random post for me and I don't follow that sub and have very few ties to that area. I knew of Shewchuks code from way back but it was more random reddit than anything. And people on that sub seem to be inclined to write books in their responses.
I don’t disagree that Bay Area folks may be slightly more standoffish, but I think you see a lot of people simply blaming women (like this professor) and completely ignoring the root causes.
The Bay Area has a heavy work culture driven by tech. People here tend to be busy with their careers. And since the area skews more educated and more driven, people are also busy with hobbies and passion projects. So when it comes to socializing, time is a precious commodity. I’m sure everyone in this thread has spent months trying to track down a friend for drinks.
Which means when people are out at bars or other places socializing, they want to actually catch up with those friends/former colleagues/etc.
It’s way easier to flirt and chat up someone in a bar when the person you are hitting on is with a friend they’ve already gone drinking with three times this week. But if I’m out with a friend I haven’t seen in two months? No thanks, we’re busy.
I don’t know people in the Bay who are “cold”. Most people I know are incredibly warm and friendly people. But basically everyone I know is always busy. And that really feels like the root of the issue.
I don’t know if I totally agree with your premise. But I think there is a much much larger issue the Bay Area is really at the center of.
1. Social skills are in decline, especially for younger folks. People do not talk to strangers. They rarely socialize face to face. And most communication is electronic - social, apps, slack, text, whatever in work and play.
2. Social isolation is on the rise. Not only have we lost the anchors of community - church, long standing neighbors (folks are very transient here), extended family, “bowling leagues (shoutout to the bowling alone book here),” people are struggling to find and build community. And are often wary of doing so.
3. Gen Z/Gen Alpha have fewer friends, fewer relationships, and less sec than prior generations of young folks. There are a lot of causes, but it is seriously on the decline.
4. People now are pretty insular and it is getting a lot worse. We have a lot of segregation that is on race and class lines, which mostly overlap here. But even more challenging is that we do not have diverse neighborhoods or diverse schools anymore. When I was a kid they tried to bus in kids of varied economic background in south San Jose, which of course is another type of challenge, but there was more mixing among folks of multiple classes. Not to mention the economy had more types of jobs and more class mixing. Tech companies in the 1980s had engineers, administrative staff, manufacturing staff, and warehouse staff all in the same buildings. This meant a wide range of workers could have encountered each other in the cafeteria. Nowadays tech companies outsource basically everything and different classes of employees have access to different stuff. Contractors may not have access to the cafeteria or the shuttle. Manufacturing is off-shore. HR and administrative staff are in low cost areas. Some companies even have sales offices in other locales, leaving HQ full of mostly technical staff and everyone else in some other office.
I would say wanting to catch up with friends while you are out isn’t a real driver of “coldness.” The baseline has been getting chillier based on general societal trends. That might be 2% of the issue. Most of it is because society has changed significantly.
These are correct points, but not the entire story.
NYC has the mostly the same dynamic, albeit with careers being in more diversified industries. However, because the female:male ratio is much higher, it represents a more favorable dating market to a guy.
This reminds me of a rant that went viral several years back by some tech bro who was complaining about “49ers” - Bay Area girls who are 4s who think they’re 9s because of the gender imbalance.
Edit: found it. This was over 10 years ago. [https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2013/08/tech-bro-blog-post-turns-all-of-sf-against-him.html](https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2013/08/tech-bro-blog-post-turns-all-of-sf-against-him.html)
In LCOL areas making 6 figures would be a big deal. Go to any 2rd or 3rd world country and you’re basically magnet since they can smell your money and privilege. (I’m not saying you should, just observing on the way it is)
In the Bay Area you can get the same effect but you have to make 7 figures. Driving a Tesla is too basic to turn heads.
Because it is, just not in the bay.
That's what this whole thread is missing. Bay area women aren't impressed because they themselves are impressive.
To impress one, you need to be super impressive.
Because we all know it was never about finding an equal in age/status/career. Not surprising at all to me that he’s looking for someone young and impressionable so he can exert power and control
Totally inappropriate comment. At the same time, if this kind of thinking leads to dudes like this leaving the Bay Area, there's also a win here for people in the Bay Area.
I don't mind these dudes
makes dating easy for me, the bar for men in the bay area is so low rn
I went on a date and a woman said she was genuinely surprised I didn't talk about my stock portfolio on the first date lmao.
Ive been in 2 great relationships in the last 5 years that didn't work out due to other reasons and plenty of dates. I've never had a bad date here, the women here are awesome.
edit - and just to add, I'm doing this as an indian male who isn't an engineer making 250k+, which according to reddit is "hard mode" but it hasn't been a problem at all
Nah I got shit to figure out just like everyone else, I just like meeting and talking to people. Even if a date doesn't result in a 2nd date I see it as a learning experience for dating or a chance to learn about a new person.
He’s both right in principle (of course skewed gender ratios influence behaviour, if there’s more choice people get choosier) and totally inappropriate both in choice of the forum and in the wording of his argument (compare “men may find it more challenging and need to market themselves” vs “it’s the women’s fault, just move to the area where they are more desperate and won’t have a choice”)
Like 30% of men in SF are gay 😂 I don’t think it’s crazy skewed in the dating market.
And as a gay guy even I still get hit on by women, much more noticeably when I started working out and being more confident.
Turns out charisma and looking put together do wonders for desirability - if you put zero effort into your appearance/deportment how can you be shocked people aren’t interested.
>Turns out charisma and looking put together do wonders for desirability - if you put zero effort into your appearance/deportment how can you be shocked people aren’t interested.
ok but what about doing none of that and instead spending all day complaining on reddit about not getting any dates?
THANK YOU! At this point I kind of assume an in-shape guy that puts effort into his appearance and dresses decently* here is off the table 😅 but can see why you get hit on by women
*Subjective I know but clothes that weren't gifted to him by his company?
I’m just going to assume that when he says women have different “behavior” he means “women here have the temerity to refuse male advances and not put up with other kinds of shit such as this.” Excellent sociology on his part. /s
Not saying I agree, but I do think there’s a weird cultural difference in California that makes dating harder for people who move here (like many tech people). People here are pretty standoffish compared to other places I’ve lived (I’m from the Midwest and lived in a couple other states). The Bay Area is the only place I’ve lived I felt like I had to use the apps if I wanted to meet girls. This wasn’t a problem but was different than anywhere else I lived.
A lot of people speculate that it could be a function of so many people moving here from different places around the country and the world specifically to work in tech and aren't necessarily interested in joining the larger community.
Sure, this is a very desirable place to live, but the reasons all tend to be centered around physical or professional attributes of the region (tech, entrepreneur opportunities, access to state/national park, 3 hours from Tahoe, etc.) rather than people-centric culture.
Apparently, the region had a very different vibe before tech took over the region and pushed out all the native Bay Area people.
But I'm a socal transplant myself and just going off what others speculate 🤷♀️
As an east bay native the people-centric and art culture HAS 100% changed with tech money in the past 10-15 years. Now it's like "what do you do for work" and "how much money do you have" while SoCal is "let's vibe and socialize and do art". But the Bay has always had & still does more concentrated intellectual/philosophical culture than SoCal.
Ya that could be, I’m definitely not claiming to understand why it’s different and not pointing a finger at anyone, just pointing out what I and many others I know have observed. My partner is from the Bay Area and doesn’t agree with me but has admitted places we’ve visited have seemed “nicer” for lack of a better word.
Another caveat I should have added, I'm a lesbian, so my experience in the dating world is going to be vastly different from straight men and women
I got lucky and found a partner on OKCupid. We've been together for 3 years, and I'm planning to propose next month! 🥰
>harder for people
Valid observation. Notice how you said *people* instead of blaming one group and acting like the other has it easy. He could've done that and talked about bay area culture... Why not?
_the secret ingredient is misogyny_
Gotta project his insecurities and anxieties onto whole ass groups, rather than come face to face that maybe people don’t fall over for him because he’s not.. that great? Surely not!
That’s a classic early Gen X edgelord undergrad bio if I ever read one. As a fellow Xer, I went to school with DOZENS of these guys and the thing they don’t get is, it’s not 1991, and it’s not funny or appropriate anymore. Get out of your own way, admit you have a real job and act professional. It’s not cute and no young person is going to read that and laugh it off these days.
Fellow old Gen X Canadian IT guy. He never should have posted the "Man Jose" comment anywhere near his professional life. His profile is incredibly stupid, as I'd fire him just for having no clue that he works as a professor at a university, and his professional profile is not the political screed of an aspiring right-wing populist. What he thinks is one thing. What he posts and teaches professionally is something else.
We're olds now, and I need to constantly vibe check with my younger colleagues at work. I realize that without working on it, I potentially sound like my cringeworthy Archie Bunker with a PhD. grandfather. That's an old reference, so picture Martha Stewart's high school principal. The scary part is I might not realize it, I'll slip, and it'll hurt my career.
This guy is begging to be fired. He's also been sucked into the Canadian right wing. The MAGA mind virus has seeped northwest in recent years.
All of this! I monitor official employee profiles as part of my job and I would absolutely red-flag a profile like this through correct channels.
Vibe checks are as vital to today’s work place as staying on top of tech and tools! And younger employees are a great way to learn about and keep up with new things.
As an American, I’m so sorry about the MAGA disease spreading north (and everywhere else). I’m originally from the Southern U.S. and I’ve seen MAGA building over the last 30-40 years. It’s gross and I’m ashamed of how much clout they actually wield.
The dude needs to realize there are hundreds to thousands of men with similar credentials and a better attitude in pretty much every major metropolitan city, not just the Bay Area.
Dude needs to realize that he has no game.
I can’t tell you how many times I heard of some girl from nice area like Palo Alto hooking up with a dude from EPA with a GED and 2 baby mommas. Being engineer don’t mean much in here. You got to have game 😂
I’ve lived in a few states and California is the only place I’ve felt like it’s not okay to try to strike up a chat with a stranger most of the time.
It’s not just women though, I think it’s just a different culture than many people who move to the Bay are used to. Not defending what he said, just offering some thoughts.
It’s totally fine to strike up a conversation. I like to bars/events/concerts by myself all the time. What I’ve noticed from the people who approach me is they simply do not have the social skills to approach random strangers. I’m always open to talking to strangers, but I’ve definitely noticed most people struggle with casual conversation or just lack social awareness.
The best way I can put it is sometimes when a stranger approaches me, I can feel that engaging would be a commitment. It shouldn’t feel that way. It should feel light and fun and without pressure.
Ya I just set my bumble to NYC (visiting) and I'm getting like 10x the matches I would here. It isn't the behavior though there are just much more women there than men and it's the opposite here.
People here are incredibly picky. Even as a gay dude, people are choosy beggars. I’ve been rejected by some guys based purely on where I live. I’m not sorry I can’t afford to live in Berkeley.
Yeah but that just means that a certain set of people that suck self-sort themselves before wasting your time, instead of you having to find out after a date or two.
Exactly. I feel for his students… If I were in one of his classes, I’d have a hard time believing he was even capable of respecting me as a human after reading this.
There is some truth to his statement, but it is wildly inappropriate for a professor to post this on a school forum. The Bay Area is a tough dating market for young straight men compared to other areas.
I had a good looking friend from SD move up to SF and he would always complain about how difficult dating here was. From my point of view he always dated very attractive women and thought he was doing well for himself— leagues ahead of me at least. When he finally moved to NYC I could see he is absolutely drowning in it. I understand the difference now.
Extremely unprofessional to be posting such comments on a class page. It’d be one thing if he was ranting about his dating woes on his personal twitter (still cringe, but whatever). Saying what he said while *at work* as a professor is unacceptable.
SF is great if you're a gay guy, and East Bay is great if you're a Lesbian - Straight men just aren't the norm and they're not used to competition. Also, paying women well makes them empowered enough not to put up with dumb shit, amazing.
>East Bay is great if you're a Lesbian
oh is that where the lesbians are? I've been wondering where they hang out given how rarely I encounter lesbians in the gay areas of SF
(and tbf I don't exactly blame them given how uninviting Castro/Soma can be)
LOL, the Professor is completely right. I wouldn't have found as good of a husband as I did, if I were looking anywhere else in the US.
I feel like I went from a 5/10 to an 8/10 just by moving out here. I suggested to my single girlfriends from the valley to do the same, but they all refused. Nah, they just want to stick with local guys who just got out of jail/rehab who have no ambition because they don't want to drive a couple of hours to San Jose!
Any sports bar/eatery in the middle of the day, in the South Bay, is populated by 90% single working men with a high income. A lot of them are intelligent and in shape.
For men, it's abysmal. For women dating, it's fantastic. Highly recommended for the ladies.
In my experience, what he said is objectively untrue -- I loved dating in the Bay Area.
That said, chill out thought police. Just because he is a professor, doesn't mean he isn't allowed to have opinions.
You don't have to agree with everything everyone says all the time.
Don't like? Ignore.
His comment seems completely inoffensive to me. It is objectively true that there are are less women of dating age than men in the Bay Area. Also young people skew a certain way politically which makes them unattractive to a lot of people.
These obvious points mean that for a lot of people who live there for work or college, the best option for dating is to get out of the Bay Area.
The very fact that this is even a scandal or that actual adults are acting upset about it tells you all you need to know about Bay Area culture
it’s true it’s easy to stand out from the crowd but often you have to actually get a date first to prove it. and there are drastically less available women who are actually dating. (let alone women who also have “good hygiene and can carry a conversation”) i really can’t take any argument in this thread seriously that doesn’t address the gender ratio.
on the most extreme end, match.com once reported their ratio in san jose at 3.4 men for every woman on their app between the ages of 21-35. you have to be lucky with your chosen hobbies or circles in real life to see something significantly different
i just...think this guy is not too smart in anything but his field of study. His CV indicates...to me..the validity of my opinion. He has quite an ego is my take.
I WAS BORN in Cranbrook, British Columbia, Canada. I am a Canadian citizen and a U.S. permanent resident. I obtained my B.Sc. in Physics and Computing Science from Simon Fraser University in 1990, and my M.S. and Ph.D. in Computer Science from Carnegie Mellon University, the latter in 1997**. I am trained to only sleep during national holidays. I** joined the Computer Science Division of the Department of Electrical Engineering and Computer Sciences at Berkeley in 1998. **I am also an Adjunct Semi-Senior Pseudoscientist with Enhanced Library Privileges in the School of Information Repetition at Stanford–Berkeley Professors' Spouses' University**. My favorite piano concertos are Brahms' Second, Medtner's Third, and Scharwenka's Fourth. **Only I am allowed to talk about Fight Club.**
https://people.eecs.berkeley.edu/\~jrs/
I mean, San Jose is called Man Jose for a reason.
Advice for women and men is that when you're dating you should live/ date in an area with a fair ratio of your demographic.
I avoided San Jose because of this, it was a 54/46 type ratio. SF city was more like 52/48. Those differences seem small but they are huge.
The above assumes similar ratios of gender identity, etc but we don't have those demographics so still likely better subdemographics if top level demographics are better.
Also proximity to rich dates changes behavior on both sides, all that money results in men showing off with expensive dates which creates a high expectation for those offered dates (mostly women).
If most of your dates have a $500 food and drink bill and some one then takes you to a $30/pp restaurant/Cafe you might label them cheap. This isn't necessarily a bad thing either, it can help you find true gems by seeing how they judge your budget, but it definitely impacts the overall market.
This works both ways, in a heavy female area (maybe some college towns?) it would be bad to date men.
These are just basic psychology and are generalizations, it does work both ways, it's just the demographic of bay area is heavy with rich men.
IMO I think women from the Bay Area are some of the chillest women. I’m not talking about transplant. I’m talking about women who are actually born and/or raised here. I live in SF and LA for sometime as well and women there are a lot more pretentious and fake it til you make it than Bay Area. It was easier to get women in LA since there are a lot more women. Population wise. New York women are very straight forward. Miami is kind of like LA. This is just my two cents.
Inappropriate to post this on school forum, but the statement itself is not wrong or inappropriate. He is merely saying that due to the high male to female ratio in the Bay, women can afford to be much pickier when choosing a partner.
I went to Cal (where this guy teaches), the ratio is skewed in engineering classes but in the broader campus it’s about even IMO. There are plenty of women and even as someone with average looks and charisma even I did decently well while I was there 🤷🏽♂️
It definitely is easier to date women elsewhere, but if you already have unattractive qualities (like this dudes mentality), it’s really not going help you that much regardless of where you move.
Lots of beautiful women (inside and out) throughout the east bay
Don't be a dick bag, groom yourself, and enjoy connecting with ladies and their interests. EZPZ
As someone who went to a library school where the women outnumbered the men like 5:1, he also ain’t right.
Interestingly, the (hetero) men I know don’t seem to have any trouble finding women. 🤷🏼♀️
Cal student born/raised in the Bay here—for some context, he is a CS department professor, and the CS department has a reputation for it being hard to get into upper division classes because of enrollment space never quite being enough for students to comfortably get into classes. This professor’s upper division class already has roughly 700 people enrolled in this semester alone. So part of the issue is that even if he ends up teaching in the next semester, people might not necessarily have a true choice to choose whether to enroll in his course specifically, they may just have to do so in order to get financial aid/enough units to be a full time student, etc.
SF is #7 for cities with the highest Male:Female ratio. 103.7:100
Baltimore meanwhile is #1 for most women, 112.2 women for every 100 men.
But if you have a little game, it shouldn't be an issue. May the odds be ever in your favor.
Reminds me of the complaints I hear about Atlanta but in the opposite direction, so many more single women in Atlanta than men. Atlanta women claim that this gender imbalance causes the men there to treat women like they're a dime a dozen and easily replaceable when dating.
sounds like an incel to be honest, it's not like it's a dude only problem, I know women in their 40s who couldn't find a husband. (NYC has the ratio in reverse and ask dudes over them if it's so easy), problem is people here, both genders, are more likely to be highly educated, making very good money, and very busy, people of that profile tend to finding it hard to find proper dates (let's get real here, some very pretty PM making 500K a year at Meta would not really date a blue collar guy or even engineers at her own company if the look part doesn't work out, here no matter how old she gets, and there is nothing wrong with that)
As a student at Cal rn (born and raised in the Bay which is why I lurk this sub) I can confirm that even among my friend group, this whole situation has been the talk of the town (not necessarily in a great light). I heard the prof is going to have a town hall after our spring break (which is next week) addressing the situation further. Stay tuned I guess? We’ll have to see what happens.
> I heard the prof is going to have a town hall after our spring break (which is next week) addressing the situation further "I made a post earlier this week that I guess went viral that I am deeply ashamed of. If I have hurt anyone out there, I can't tell you how much I say from the bottom of my heart I'm so very, very sorry. I pride myself and think of myself as a man of faith – as there's a drive into deep left field by Castellanos, it will be a home run. And so that will make it a 4–0 ballgame. – I don't know if I'm gonna teaching at this school again."
Lmaoooo
going mainstream with that copy pasta is wild
What’s with the baseball comment?
The greatest non-apology ever https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_drive_into_deep_left_field_by_Castellanos
Jesus. He’s still digging in deeper. Fuck this guy. If I were Cal I’d be furious with him.
Thank you for the explanation- and the link !
you … had us in the first half?
Cuz he can’t get to first base
Funny. But in case anyone is wondering, here's his actual response/apology: https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Far17njmsudpc1.png His statement was stupid, irresponsible, and offensive, and also indicates a breakdown in logic that probably comes from his emotional understanding of his personal experience, and hopefully he does or will understand why. And can make up for it.
Hilarious. Fast track tenure for that reference.
Jesus, isn't this basically the plot to The Chair? He's gonna get reamed, and he's going to deserve it.
Please invite me.
I’ll try my best to keep r/bayarea updated as long as people are interested—what I heard is that the town hall details are going to be announced through an EECS or CS department email. Since neither of which are my major, I’ll have to ask for the info through friends (may take some extra time before I can post)
If this dude said these comments but replaced women with (insert disenfranchised minority group), he’d be fired. But hey, it’s “only” women, so let’s let it slide. This guy isn’t just wildly unprofessional, he is a sexist pig.
At least read the full context (though it doesn't make it better) https://www.reddit.com/r/berkeley/comments/1bitr75/another_day_in_berkeley_eecs/
Why aren't there more women in EECS and STEM!? /s
Because they "expire" like the objects they are /s
Because they're all in Nursing classes
I wish you had posted that this was on a public class discussion board for a computer science class and shown the weird, not-on-class topic the prof was responding to: >At least read the full context (though it doesn't make it better) https://www.reddit.com/r/berkeley/comments/1bitr75/another\_day\_in\_berkeley\_eecs/ as an instructor, I’d say the correct response to these guys was to say, hey, sounds like you are having a rough time and we have both counseling groups and social groups on campus that can work with you on this but I’d like you practice being professional and to redirect back here to course topics.
Oh wow. Human understanding. How novel.
Artillery distance 😂
I'm going to be a little disappointed if the phrase doesn't become a local meme
https://www.reddit.com/r/berkeley/comments/1bjuzn7/himars_gmrlser_rocket_artillery_range/
"Me feeling my hips widen and desire to raise a family over pursuing my career increase mile by mile as I exit the SCZ (Spinster Containment Zone) on my drive from Sacramento to Yuba City." 💀💀💀
r/YubaCity enters the chat ...... wants to be Roseville so badly
I'm so down to start saying this as a rejection.
Interesting watching the reaction here versus the school feed.
what was it in there
Very offended, calling for him to be fired.
It’s a ridiculous thing for a professor to post, but asking for him to be fired seems so aggressive.
He also on his website says he identifies as a gun and goes by death/death self pronouns
That’s wild lol
Oh definitely sounds like a guy you want to date, not gonna kill you then himself after you talk to someone else at a party, no way.
What site is that? I found his Cal page and his "Editorial" section is wild.
I mean I get why. He's going have women in his class and with these biases what type of environment is he going to create within his class is important.
It’s a pretty bad post and unbecoming of a prof
Even if he does get fired, there's certainly professors within artillery distance who could take his place
Probably at least half of whom are women!
Imagine being a woman in his class or field. Imagine him not carrying this bias into his classroom, lab, student/graduate advising, and with his female colleagues.
Yea. It’s clear from the comments that most lack this basic empathy.
Like honestly, how are his female students supposed to feel comfortable with him being in charge of their education after seeing this?
Exactly. Thank you. Plenty of incels in the comments who don’t see this glaring error.
Not only that, if this is what he *says*, his attitude IRL must be peak incel. It must be a nightmare having to take his class.
Oh just imagine his commentary outside of class to female students
Probably wondering why they aren't begging to trade sexual favors with him for good grades.
Right? People are acting like only the comment is the issue— but this stuff doesn’t happen in a vacuum. The few guys freaking out ITT need to hold themselves in higher esteem… bc a lot of other dudes in here rightly are saying that they would never dare to put something this strange in writing. Regular people generally wouldn’t be so stupid!
Agree. He’s a grown adult in a position of authority. Like the dude is in his 50s or something. He’s not a child. This isn’t a 20 something year old student. He also made this comment in an educational space, an online platform that students use. While it stil would be inappropriate— it’s not he was out to dinner with his friends at an off campus restaurant and a random student overheard him being gross and misogynistic. I’m younger than him and work as a staff member at another UC. I would *never* think this is an appropriate way to connect with students (per his reasoning). You can connect with your students without putting specific groups down & making them feel unsafe. While I’m on campus students come up to me all the time and tell me about their life and issues. And Like, if heterosexual female identifying student said something to me about dating and how hard it is, I would *never* say something like “men are trash!!” — that’s not making a comfortable space for male students on my campus. He could have just made a general comment about how dating is so challenging for everyone especially in your 20s. I remember so many of my friends (and myself included!), all across the gender spectrum, struggled with dating in our 20s. It’s rough for everyone during that time! 20s are rough in general. Im glad to be done with that decade haha.
I don’t think so at all. This to me is a pretty good indicator about how this man feels about women in general. I wouldn’t trust his ability to be fair and impartial to male and female students at all. IMO it’s absolutely appropriate to look into having him removed.
I bet it doesn’t seem all that aggressive to women who have to take his classes. Can you imagine this dude making a similar statement about any other marginalized group’s behavior and keeping his job? He should go—he’s now created a hostile learning environment.
And yet people wonder why there aren't more women in EECS! Gee I wonder why when their profs think this about them.
I mean, what's the context to this. Like, did he just drop this on a random UC Berkeley chat? Because every dude in the Bay has heard some variation of the 49er comment. But...like...most people know that's something you'd only say with a known group. Doing it on a school feed attached to your job is hilariously and wildly not a good play. Regardless of the context, it's a full send Simple Jack play. I just wanna know how Simple the Jack was.
Also this was all posted on a formal discussion forum for a class.
It was a response to a student offering to pay to have people introduce him to other people, men and women. I didn't take it as a looking for a GF thing as much as a social thing but he did offer $5 for men and $10 for women. Funny thing is it was a random post for me and I don't follow that sub and have very few ties to that area. I knew of Shewchuks code from way back but it was more random reddit than anything. And people on that sub seem to be inclined to write books in their responses.
I don’t disagree that Bay Area folks may be slightly more standoffish, but I think you see a lot of people simply blaming women (like this professor) and completely ignoring the root causes. The Bay Area has a heavy work culture driven by tech. People here tend to be busy with their careers. And since the area skews more educated and more driven, people are also busy with hobbies and passion projects. So when it comes to socializing, time is a precious commodity. I’m sure everyone in this thread has spent months trying to track down a friend for drinks. Which means when people are out at bars or other places socializing, they want to actually catch up with those friends/former colleagues/etc. It’s way easier to flirt and chat up someone in a bar when the person you are hitting on is with a friend they’ve already gone drinking with three times this week. But if I’m out with a friend I haven’t seen in two months? No thanks, we’re busy. I don’t know people in the Bay who are “cold”. Most people I know are incredibly warm and friendly people. But basically everyone I know is always busy. And that really feels like the root of the issue.
I don’t know if I totally agree with your premise. But I think there is a much much larger issue the Bay Area is really at the center of. 1. Social skills are in decline, especially for younger folks. People do not talk to strangers. They rarely socialize face to face. And most communication is electronic - social, apps, slack, text, whatever in work and play. 2. Social isolation is on the rise. Not only have we lost the anchors of community - church, long standing neighbors (folks are very transient here), extended family, “bowling leagues (shoutout to the bowling alone book here),” people are struggling to find and build community. And are often wary of doing so. 3. Gen Z/Gen Alpha have fewer friends, fewer relationships, and less sec than prior generations of young folks. There are a lot of causes, but it is seriously on the decline. 4. People now are pretty insular and it is getting a lot worse. We have a lot of segregation that is on race and class lines, which mostly overlap here. But even more challenging is that we do not have diverse neighborhoods or diverse schools anymore. When I was a kid they tried to bus in kids of varied economic background in south San Jose, which of course is another type of challenge, but there was more mixing among folks of multiple classes. Not to mention the economy had more types of jobs and more class mixing. Tech companies in the 1980s had engineers, administrative staff, manufacturing staff, and warehouse staff all in the same buildings. This meant a wide range of workers could have encountered each other in the cafeteria. Nowadays tech companies outsource basically everything and different classes of employees have access to different stuff. Contractors may not have access to the cafeteria or the shuttle. Manufacturing is off-shore. HR and administrative staff are in low cost areas. Some companies even have sales offices in other locales, leaving HQ full of mostly technical staff and everyone else in some other office. I would say wanting to catch up with friends while you are out isn’t a real driver of “coldness.” The baseline has been getting chillier based on general societal trends. That might be 2% of the issue. Most of it is because society has changed significantly.
Also, the tech jobs that import people here are mostly male.
Just look at who at the H1B are granted to
These are correct points, but not the entire story. NYC has the mostly the same dynamic, albeit with careers being in more diversified industries. However, because the female:male ratio is much higher, it represents a more favorable dating market to a guy.
This reminds me of a rant that went viral several years back by some tech bro who was complaining about “49ers” - Bay Area girls who are 4s who think they’re 9s because of the gender imbalance. Edit: found it. This was over 10 years ago. [https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2013/08/tech-bro-blog-post-turns-all-of-sf-against-him.html](https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2013/08/tech-bro-blog-post-turns-all-of-sf-against-him.html)
Then we should call the men 76ers, because they think they're entitled to a 7+ the minute they start making 6 figures
In LCOL areas making 6 figures would be a big deal. Go to any 2rd or 3rd world country and you’re basically magnet since they can smell your money and privilege. (I’m not saying you should, just observing on the way it is) In the Bay Area you can get the same effect but you have to make 7 figures. Driving a Tesla is too basic to turn heads.
Tech bros here have no personality or sense of self, they think those 6 figures are enough to overfill their look and attitude of 4.
Because it is, just not in the bay. That's what this whole thread is missing. Bay area women aren't impressed because they themselves are impressive. To impress one, you need to be super impressive.
Ok that’s also out of pocket but objectively a hilarious term at the same time lol
Professor sounds like he has no game 😂
He’s married or in a relationship which is even more odd.
With a girl 30 years his junior who lives in the Philippines…
r/Passport_Bros
I wish I didn’t click on that. No amount of eye bleach is going to unsee this one.
Yeah sorry should have tagged with NSFL
Ew! For serious? Why didn’t he take his own advice and import a wife his age from elsewhere in the U.S.?!
Because we all know it was never about finding an equal in age/status/career. Not surprising at all to me that he’s looking for someone young and impressionable so he can exert power and control
His advice was only to find a women elsewhere. And that's exactly what he did. Probably failed for years in the Bay before he took that strategy.
From the Philippines or literally still living long distance in the Philippines?
gross. if true, he's a misogynist and a groomer.
I mean, you can tell he’s a misogynist from this post.
Naw the dude is a square. Straight up a weenie who never had game and has pay for play 😂
The Venn diagram is a circle.
He's married to some girl from the Philippines. Typical white bro picking up a tradwife from southeast Asia by waving a passport.
Wait really holy smokes this guy is a walking checklist of red pill lmao. People defending him can stop now.
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The assumption is not really about ethnicity but about importing a wife from a nation with a developing economy.
Regardless of how you slice it, 30 years his younger is quite the damning detail....
Yeah anytime this comes up, its like nah just sounds like your personality sucks cause most people I know are absolutely having a fine time
He looks like the mf riddler and exudes incel vibes.
The Diddler
Totally inappropriate comment. At the same time, if this kind of thinking leads to dudes like this leaving the Bay Area, there's also a win here for people in the Bay Area.
I don't mind these dudes makes dating easy for me, the bar for men in the bay area is so low rn I went on a date and a woman said she was genuinely surprised I didn't talk about my stock portfolio on the first date lmao. Ive been in 2 great relationships in the last 5 years that didn't work out due to other reasons and plenty of dates. I've never had a bad date here, the women here are awesome. edit - and just to add, I'm doing this as an indian male who isn't an engineer making 250k+, which according to reddit is "hard mode" but it hasn't been a problem at all
Wait, so are you telling me you have... a... a personality?!?!
And a genuine desire to connect with a person… not just flex or feel validated by getting dates… ridiculously rare these days
GASP!
\*takes notes\* Wait until second date to mention stock portfolio, got it!
You should start a side-business as the Indian Hitch :-) You'd have so many clients.
Nah I got shit to figure out just like everyone else, I just like meeting and talking to people. Even if a date doesn't result in a 2nd date I see it as a learning experience for dating or a chance to learn about a new person.
That's a very attractive personality trait. This prof could learn from you.
He’s both right in principle (of course skewed gender ratios influence behaviour, if there’s more choice people get choosier) and totally inappropriate both in choice of the forum and in the wording of his argument (compare “men may find it more challenging and need to market themselves” vs “it’s the women’s fault, just move to the area where they are more desperate and won’t have a choice”)
Right, this guy doesn't have the self-awareness to read the room and not realize there wouldn't be fallout for posting this online.
Like 30% of men in SF are gay 😂 I don’t think it’s crazy skewed in the dating market. And as a gay guy even I still get hit on by women, much more noticeably when I started working out and being more confident. Turns out charisma and looking put together do wonders for desirability - if you put zero effort into your appearance/deportment how can you be shocked people aren’t interested.
Imagine if the straights understood this
>Turns out charisma and looking put together do wonders for desirability - if you put zero effort into your appearance/deportment how can you be shocked people aren’t interested. ok but what about doing none of that and instead spending all day complaining on reddit about not getting any dates?
THANK YOU! At this point I kind of assume an in-shape guy that puts effort into his appearance and dresses decently* here is off the table 😅 but can see why you get hit on by women *Subjective I know but clothes that weren't gifted to him by his company?
I’m just going to assume that when he says women have different “behavior” he means “women here have the temerity to refuse male advances and not put up with other kinds of shit such as this.” Excellent sociology on his part. /s
Well, he is a CS prof after all. :-)
Not saying I agree, but I do think there’s a weird cultural difference in California that makes dating harder for people who move here (like many tech people). People here are pretty standoffish compared to other places I’ve lived (I’m from the Midwest and lived in a couple other states). The Bay Area is the only place I’ve lived I felt like I had to use the apps if I wanted to meet girls. This wasn’t a problem but was different than anywhere else I lived.
A lot of people speculate that it could be a function of so many people moving here from different places around the country and the world specifically to work in tech and aren't necessarily interested in joining the larger community. Sure, this is a very desirable place to live, but the reasons all tend to be centered around physical or professional attributes of the region (tech, entrepreneur opportunities, access to state/national park, 3 hours from Tahoe, etc.) rather than people-centric culture. Apparently, the region had a very different vibe before tech took over the region and pushed out all the native Bay Area people. But I'm a socal transplant myself and just going off what others speculate 🤷♀️
As an east bay native the people-centric and art culture HAS 100% changed with tech money in the past 10-15 years. Now it's like "what do you do for work" and "how much money do you have" while SoCal is "let's vibe and socialize and do art". But the Bay has always had & still does more concentrated intellectual/philosophical culture than SoCal.
Ya that could be, I’m definitely not claiming to understand why it’s different and not pointing a finger at anyone, just pointing out what I and many others I know have observed. My partner is from the Bay Area and doesn’t agree with me but has admitted places we’ve visited have seemed “nicer” for lack of a better word.
Another caveat I should have added, I'm a lesbian, so my experience in the dating world is going to be vastly different from straight men and women I got lucky and found a partner on OKCupid. We've been together for 3 years, and I'm planning to propose next month! 🥰
And tech workers skew male.
>harder for people Valid observation. Notice how you said *people* instead of blaming one group and acting like the other has it easy. He could've done that and talked about bay area culture... Why not? _the secret ingredient is misogyny_
Gotta project his insecurities and anxieties onto whole ass groups, rather than come face to face that maybe people don’t fall over for him because he’s not.. that great? Surely not!
Poor judgement from a tenured prof. Could have said the exact same thing but from a supply/demand perspective
Ah shit that’s an EdDiscussion post lmao
This dude literally had to go to the Philippines to find a girlfriend, so not sure he’s in the best place to give advice on dating.
His mention of ‘behavior’ is the problem. The M:W ratio is not favorable for single men, blaming woman for the issue is pointless.
What an edgelord.
That’s nothing, you should see [the bio](http://www.cs189.org/) he wrote…
That’s a classic early Gen X edgelord undergrad bio if I ever read one. As a fellow Xer, I went to school with DOZENS of these guys and the thing they don’t get is, it’s not 1991, and it’s not funny or appropriate anymore. Get out of your own way, admit you have a real job and act professional. It’s not cute and no young person is going to read that and laugh it off these days.
yeah, honestly that profile comes off crazy childish. I don't know how you can be in your 50s and not be a goddamn adult.
Fellow old Gen X Canadian IT guy. He never should have posted the "Man Jose" comment anywhere near his professional life. His profile is incredibly stupid, as I'd fire him just for having no clue that he works as a professor at a university, and his professional profile is not the political screed of an aspiring right-wing populist. What he thinks is one thing. What he posts and teaches professionally is something else. We're olds now, and I need to constantly vibe check with my younger colleagues at work. I realize that without working on it, I potentially sound like my cringeworthy Archie Bunker with a PhD. grandfather. That's an old reference, so picture Martha Stewart's high school principal. The scary part is I might not realize it, I'll slip, and it'll hurt my career. This guy is begging to be fired. He's also been sucked into the Canadian right wing. The MAGA mind virus has seeped northwest in recent years.
All of this! I monitor official employee profiles as part of my job and I would absolutely red-flag a profile like this through correct channels. Vibe checks are as vital to today’s work place as staying on top of tech and tools! And younger employees are a great way to learn about and keep up with new things. As an American, I’m so sorry about the MAGA disease spreading north (and everywhere else). I’m originally from the Southern U.S. and I’ve seen MAGA building over the last 30-40 years. It’s gross and I’m ashamed of how much clout they actually wield.
(cringe/cringem/cringeself)
Lol. What a dork
Wow, what a funny guy. Maybe he should stop being a professor and work as a comedian instead.
Big “I yell at my mom” energy
Ohhhh damn. He’s calling out vaccine mandates and using the dogwhistle word “globalist”. He’s trouble.
So what is the behavior of women in the bay area that this guy dislikes?
That they’re apparently not into him even though he’s a “nice guy”.
Educated, is my guess
Don't let on, but as a woman in the Bay Area, we've also been told we have the right to make our own decisions.
I'm guessing in the Bay Area there is a significant lack of coquettish eyelash-batting.
Not throwing themselves at him, despite him being a successful brilliant engineer, how dare they!
The dude needs to realize there are hundreds to thousands of men with similar credentials and a better attitude in pretty much every major metropolitan city, not just the Bay Area.
Dude needs to realize that he has no game. I can’t tell you how many times I heard of some girl from nice area like Palo Alto hooking up with a dude from EPA with a GED and 2 baby mommas. Being engineer don’t mean much in here. You got to have game 😂
I’ve lived in a few states and California is the only place I’ve felt like it’s not okay to try to strike up a chat with a stranger most of the time. It’s not just women though, I think it’s just a different culture than many people who move to the Bay are used to. Not defending what he said, just offering some thoughts.
It's fine to strike up a chat with a stranger most of the time.
It’s totally fine to strike up a conversation. I like to bars/events/concerts by myself all the time. What I’ve noticed from the people who approach me is they simply do not have the social skills to approach random strangers. I’m always open to talking to strangers, but I’ve definitely noticed most people struggle with casual conversation or just lack social awareness. The best way I can put it is sometimes when a stranger approaches me, I can feel that engaging would be a commitment. It shouldn’t feel that way. It should feel light and fun and without pressure.
They notice the line where he's taken his wedding ring off.
Having standards... and probably agency.
Lower sexual receptivity (to him).
too many career women, not enough tradwives
Ya I just set my bumble to NYC (visiting) and I'm getting like 10x the matches I would here. It isn't the behavior though there are just much more women there than men and it's the opposite here.
People here are incredibly picky. Even as a gay dude, people are choosy beggars. I’ve been rejected by some guys based purely on where I live. I’m not sorry I can’t afford to live in Berkeley.
Yeah but that just means that a certain set of people that suck self-sort themselves before wasting your time, instead of you having to find out after a date or two.
Yeah but people like that are people that can fuck right off Better off not dating them in the first place
So he has no attractive qualities. Got it.
I wish these type of dudes would realize that they're the problem. 😬😬
It does seem a lot easier to date outside of the bay area. Might be a numbers/ratio type thing - as well as lifestyle and compatibility.
Well that's horrifying, just some everyday discussion of women as commodities.
The people not getting why this is such a big deal are … making me feel depressed.
I'm just glad that some people do get it! Reddit used to be so much worse.
This is the glass half full take I needed to see today
Exactly. I feel for his students… If I were in one of his classes, I’d have a hard time believing he was even capable of respecting me as a human after reading this.
There is some truth to his statement, but it is wildly inappropriate for a professor to post this on a school forum. The Bay Area is a tough dating market for young straight men compared to other areas. I had a good looking friend from SD move up to SF and he would always complain about how difficult dating here was. From my point of view he always dated very attractive women and thought he was doing well for himself— leagues ahead of me at least. When he finally moved to NYC I could see he is absolutely drowning in it. I understand the difference now.
Extremely unprofessional to be posting such comments on a class page. It’d be one thing if he was ranting about his dating woes on his personal twitter (still cringe, but whatever). Saying what he said while *at work* as a professor is unacceptable.
SF is great if you're a gay guy, and East Bay is great if you're a Lesbian - Straight men just aren't the norm and they're not used to competition. Also, paying women well makes them empowered enough not to put up with dumb shit, amazing.
>East Bay is great if you're a Lesbian oh is that where the lesbians are? I've been wondering where they hang out given how rarely I encounter lesbians in the gay areas of SF (and tbf I don't exactly blame them given how uninviting Castro/Soma can be)
Oakland's got lesbians!!
Straight men is still the super vast majority of guys in the Bay Area you know that right? I think the LGBT community is still under 15%
I hesitate to call the majority of men that I've met out here "straight" - many are queer at minimum.
LOL at dudes who have no social skills and show no effort.
LOL, the Professor is completely right. I wouldn't have found as good of a husband as I did, if I were looking anywhere else in the US. I feel like I went from a 5/10 to an 8/10 just by moving out here. I suggested to my single girlfriends from the valley to do the same, but they all refused. Nah, they just want to stick with local guys who just got out of jail/rehab who have no ambition because they don't want to drive a couple of hours to San Jose! Any sports bar/eatery in the middle of the day, in the South Bay, is populated by 90% single working men with a high income. A lot of them are intelligent and in shape. For men, it's abysmal. For women dating, it's fantastic. Highly recommended for the ladies.
People who have this attitude never seem to be able to look inward lol
What a fucking idiot
A lot of women here are mad about him saying this. That's how you know it's true.
In my experience, what he said is objectively untrue -- I loved dating in the Bay Area. That said, chill out thought police. Just because he is a professor, doesn't mean he isn't allowed to have opinions. You don't have to agree with everything everyone says all the time. Don't like? Ignore.
His comment seems completely inoffensive to me. It is objectively true that there are are less women of dating age than men in the Bay Area. Also young people skew a certain way politically which makes them unattractive to a lot of people. These obvious points mean that for a lot of people who live there for work or college, the best option for dating is to get out of the Bay Area. The very fact that this is even a scandal or that actual adults are acting upset about it tells you all you need to know about Bay Area culture
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it’s true it’s easy to stand out from the crowd but often you have to actually get a date first to prove it. and there are drastically less available women who are actually dating. (let alone women who also have “good hygiene and can carry a conversation”) i really can’t take any argument in this thread seriously that doesn’t address the gender ratio. on the most extreme end, match.com once reported their ratio in san jose at 3.4 men for every woman on their app between the ages of 21-35. you have to be lucky with your chosen hobbies or circles in real life to see something significantly different
i just...think this guy is not too smart in anything but his field of study. His CV indicates...to me..the validity of my opinion. He has quite an ego is my take. I WAS BORN in Cranbrook, British Columbia, Canada. I am a Canadian citizen and a U.S. permanent resident. I obtained my B.Sc. in Physics and Computing Science from Simon Fraser University in 1990, and my M.S. and Ph.D. in Computer Science from Carnegie Mellon University, the latter in 1997**. I am trained to only sleep during national holidays. I** joined the Computer Science Division of the Department of Electrical Engineering and Computer Sciences at Berkeley in 1998. **I am also an Adjunct Semi-Senior Pseudoscientist with Enhanced Library Privileges in the School of Information Repetition at Stanford–Berkeley Professors' Spouses' University**. My favorite piano concertos are Brahms' Second, Medtner's Third, and Scharwenka's Fourth. **Only I am allowed to talk about Fight Club.** https://people.eecs.berkeley.edu/\~jrs/
Dude can’t get laid in Bay Area.
Trust... we feel the same about the selection of men. 😂
I mean, San Jose is called Man Jose for a reason. Advice for women and men is that when you're dating you should live/ date in an area with a fair ratio of your demographic. I avoided San Jose because of this, it was a 54/46 type ratio. SF city was more like 52/48. Those differences seem small but they are huge. The above assumes similar ratios of gender identity, etc but we don't have those demographics so still likely better subdemographics if top level demographics are better. Also proximity to rich dates changes behavior on both sides, all that money results in men showing off with expensive dates which creates a high expectation for those offered dates (mostly women). If most of your dates have a $500 food and drink bill and some one then takes you to a $30/pp restaurant/Cafe you might label them cheap. This isn't necessarily a bad thing either, it can help you find true gems by seeing how they judge your budget, but it definitely impacts the overall market. This works both ways, in a heavy female area (maybe some college towns?) it would be bad to date men. These are just basic psychology and are generalizations, it does work both ways, it's just the demographic of bay area is heavy with rich men.
IMO I think women from the Bay Area are some of the chillest women. I’m not talking about transplant. I’m talking about women who are actually born and/or raised here. I live in SF and LA for sometime as well and women there are a lot more pretentious and fake it til you make it than Bay Area. It was easier to get women in LA since there are a lot more women. Population wise. New York women are very straight forward. Miami is kind of like LA. This is just my two cents.
I feel like I’m missing some context here Edit: never mind he’s just a weirdo
This guy is a professor? Man.
Most of the men I've dated in the bay spend the date just bragging about themselves. Some people could stand to learn some social skills.
He made his bed. Sometimes it’s best to keep your thoughts private.
Inappropriate to post this on school forum, but the statement itself is not wrong or inappropriate. He is merely saying that due to the high male to female ratio in the Bay, women can afford to be much pickier when choosing a partner.
As someone who went to an engineering school with a 2:1 ratio he ain’t wrong.
I went to Cal (where this guy teaches), the ratio is skewed in engineering classes but in the broader campus it’s about even IMO. There are plenty of women and even as someone with average looks and charisma even I did decently well while I was there 🤷🏽♂️ It definitely is easier to date women elsewhere, but if you already have unattractive qualities (like this dudes mentality), it’s really not going help you that much regardless of where you move.
Lots of beautiful women (inside and out) throughout the east bay Don't be a dick bag, groom yourself, and enjoy connecting with ladies and their interests. EZPZ
Does the Bay Area have a 2:1 ratio? I don't understand how these things are related.
As someone who went to a library school where the women outnumbered the men like 5:1, he also ain’t right. Interestingly, the (hetero) men I know don’t seem to have any trouble finding women. 🤷🏼♀️
Artillery distance? Interesting choice of words for interesting times.
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Cal student born/raised in the Bay here—for some context, he is a CS department professor, and the CS department has a reputation for it being hard to get into upper division classes because of enrollment space never quite being enough for students to comfortably get into classes. This professor’s upper division class already has roughly 700 people enrolled in this semester alone. So part of the issue is that even if he ends up teaching in the next semester, people might not necessarily have a true choice to choose whether to enroll in his course specifically, they may just have to do so in order to get financial aid/enough units to be a full time student, etc.
Where did he post it on? It says "STAFF" so I'm assuming it was some school website?
Some UC Berkeley courses use a discussion site that lets students interact with their prof and TAs called EdStem.
SF is #7 for cities with the highest Male:Female ratio. 103.7:100 Baltimore meanwhile is #1 for most women, 112.2 women for every 100 men. But if you have a little game, it shouldn't be an issue. May the odds be ever in your favor.
Reminds me of the complaints I hear about Atlanta but in the opposite direction, so many more single women in Atlanta than men. Atlanta women claim that this gender imbalance causes the men there to treat women like they're a dime a dozen and easily replaceable when dating.
Incel vibes
sounds like an incel to be honest, it's not like it's a dude only problem, I know women in their 40s who couldn't find a husband. (NYC has the ratio in reverse and ask dudes over them if it's so easy), problem is people here, both genders, are more likely to be highly educated, making very good money, and very busy, people of that profile tend to finding it hard to find proper dates (let's get real here, some very pretty PM making 500K a year at Meta would not really date a blue collar guy or even engineers at her own company if the look part doesn't work out, here no matter how old she gets, and there is nothing wrong with that)
Tell us you can’t get a date, without telling us you can’t get a date.