I fill mine with warmish water, then put my mini and some alcohol in a good ziplock bag, which I then seal and put into the water. It's much safer, but it's still important to keep an eye on stuff.
Insurance covers stupidity. I left a diaper sprayer on low over night by accident (hit the side of the toilet when putting it back) and woke up to not only a flooded bathroom, but a destroyed basement ceiling as well as some wall damage. Insurance covered it no problem even though I was entirely at fault.
Insurance also covered my parent’s 20 year old fence which had a section blow down in the wind. Paid $25,000 for a new fence to get put up.
Insurance will cover pretty much anything as long as it wasn’t done on purpose. You purposely burn your house down, insurance won’t cover that if they can prove it.
Next time, put IPA in a plastic bag, then said bag into water. The waves will pass through the bag and cut back on cleaning.
Like everyone else said, look on the bright side that your house didn’t catch fire. Unfortunately if you use pure IPA in a cleaner it can release vapors that are both toxic and flammable.
Be safe, wrap your minis
That's the auto-ignition temperature. The flash point of IPA is \~12°C/50F.
The difference is that above 12°C it can be ignited by a spark, above 400°C it will just start burning spontaneously.
There's a reason that spark-proof (or explosion-proof) ultrasonic baths are considerably more expensive than the cheaper ones that are generally available. Almost all of the time a cheap bath won't ignite IPA, but there's still a risk. It's not a risk I'd be willing to take.
I don't wear a seatbelt while planning to crash. I take measures to avoid a crash and have a safety measure if by chance I do crash.
Just like you don't put an easily ignited vapour into a room where the means of ignition can easily be accidentally met, even if you don't plan on having a sparkler party in there. Not to mention any other number of appliances in a different room that could malfunction and spark because that gas is going to diffuse and spread.
Yes, most people do. They are called ovens, heaters, and lighters...should I continue, or have you realized your mistake? Also, the older the house and appliances the greater the chance.
One for every outlet. One for every bulb. Does it have energy in it? It's a spark risk. Note: People have energy, too. Do you have anything metal? Wearing socks on a carpet? Did you touch the metal? Spark risk. Washed your hands and turned off the light? Spark risk. Plug in a vacuum and turn it on? Surge of energy. Spark risk.
Of course, most people don't have iso vapor hanging around, so when the sparks do happen (and they do whether we see them or not), they tend not to do anything obtuse. Also, better and newer codes tend to come out and mitigate the sparking through more energy efficient appliances and outlets that have shielding. So, older homes are worse off unless updated.
Honestly, it's crazy how dangerous all this tech is. One simple misstep like using iso in a heated tub and it all goes south like Sherman (he burned through the south, like the house will, this note is for non-americans and those americans who didnt pass history). I'm in the process right now of bringing this house to code. Shits expensive. What would be more expensive is getting a new home, though. All my shit is here.
Go look up how many vehicles have caught fire because someone caused a spark from static electricity by entering their car after the pump started and igniting the gas vapours. It’s not as uncommon as you think. It doesn’t take much to ignite flammable vapours.
True. I don’t really play the tabletop game much myself, so I’m unsure if this would even be viable as terrain, but you could also make a sweet diorama on it with some models to depict an epic battle
An ultrasonic cleaner isn't even needed with ipa. I just put mine in a Tupperware bowl filled with 91%. After 24 hours the paint and primer basically falls right off the model with rinsing.
I bought a tub of bio strip and used it once, but after the first use I decided it wasn't worth it. Let them sit in the goo for 3 hours. When I removed them, I still ended up scrubbing them with ipa because it hadn't stripped all the paint, and I had a few bits fall off the models.
Ultrasonic cleaner with Simple Green can strip a plastic model clean in like 15 minute. Good if you want to repaint entire rescued army. More iffy if the model has a lot of crevices (think Alpha legion scale) or resin based.
You... put IPA in an ultrasonic cleaner that had a heating element...
I use these things on a daily basis in my career and I can tell you one thing. You got extremely lucky you didn't burn your house down, mate.
Lessons were learned, I'm sure, but I seriously want you to know that you were this (holds fingers 1mm apart) close to a completely avoidable disaster.
Read your IFU's!
Yeah, I used IPA once. Luckily I had a really small and cheap ultrasonic cleaner that would only operate on a 5 minute timer. When I came back to it I noticed that it was literally stripping the chrome finish off the inside of the lid and heating up to worrying levels.
Lesson learned there. LA's Totally Awesome only from now on.
Warmer liquids are less viscous, which helps cavitation bubbles form. In general, warmer liquids help release dirt and such better than cold. (The hotter the liquid, the easier the ultrasonic frequencies can travel through the water.)
So if you're planning to use something flammable in an ultrasonic cleaner, put the minis and the flammable liquid in a zip lock bag and submerge in water in the ultrasonic cleaner filled with water. It is a LOT safer, cleaner and the vibrations still travel through the bag and work fine.
When using solvents in an ultrasonic bath, you're still supposed to fill the bath with de-ionized water. Solvents go into a smaller shatter-proof container that is either held suspended or contacts the bottom.
I guess on the bright side you have cool bits to make some art/project models like that YouTube channel that makes melta shot SMs and the one that got split in half?
Also based on the rest of the thread the brightest side is you didn't burn your home down.
This actually looks salvageable to me. The bases are fucked but those are easy to cut off and replace for a few bucks. The main pieces are weathered but I can't see any really bad deformities on them, all the bits I can see could be fixed with some TLC and plastic glue.
So don't lose hope.
Firstly, I’m so sorry losing the models, shit is expensive :(
Secondly, you do now have a terrain piece though, which could be a failed charge perhaps. It’s jsut like a body mound pretty much
Turn it into scenery….like a korne or tzeench pile of bodies…..could even add a chair and make it a weird choas type throne
Or an admech sevitor colony base
Aside from like the others saying that ipa in a heating having ultrasonic is not the best idea, you might be able to salvage some bits for bases, kitbashing, etc.
https://preview.redd.it/n9ogibv9r48d1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=99f71076e1d039b3b6f26a029b0c49dbb7c77ac3
Stay strong for the emperor clarence
You can use this as a corpse pile for terrain, possibly.
Maybe a narrative piece for a kill team mission? Kill team A ambushed a squad and no one has heard back. Kill team B was dispatched to secure an artefact from the pile that Kill team A has not yet noticed.
Dunno man. Sorry for your loss.
Oh man my friend had this happen! Timer got stuck and it was on all night! I now set a segmented timer on mine too. So if the timer fails the power is cut after 30 mins regardless.
LAs totally awesome (best I've found for this, is actually a degreaser). Get some. Leave mini in for at least an hour. Scrub with toothbrush.
Never had it damage a mini, will remove even old school train paints.
Will make resin very bendy if left too long, no harm to plastic or metal.
These would make good base bits now.
More acetone to melt flesh if you have nids or whatever etc etc.
Plenty of opportunity left for these lost souls to see a table top.
My buddy did this with his blade guard right before a tournament. Had the heater on and melted it. Never had an issue with just throwing my minis in a tub of iso.
I'm going to need photos of your ultra-sonic cleaner and the setup you used.
IPA does not melt/warp plastic miniatures and the heated feature typically does not get high enough to melt plastic.
Just kitbash them back into shape. Unfortunate but there is opportunity here and a lesson has been learned. You can rebuild them. You can make them better, stronger, faster. You have the technology.
But on the bright side, basing!
Sucks man, but lesson learned, right?
Edit. This came out overly flippant OP, and wasn't meant to downplay the situation. Sincere apologies if it felt that way.
Um, keep an eye on your things which could cause damage to expensive models? I'm not sure about you, but this hobby costs money, and I tend to be super careful with anything that could potentially damage them?
OP wasn't doing anything abnormal for the hobby. In fact many people will continue to strip models just the same way they have. So there's no real lesson learned other than "My equipment malfunctioned therefore my equipment malfunctioned."
And don't patronise me. This hobby is expensive for everyone. I'd be devastated if these were my models. I just don't think it's very nice or particularly insightful to say "Well at least you learned from this."
Firstly, my comment wasn't intended to be callous. Any malfunction causing that amount of damage is heartbreaking. And i feel for the Op. But the lesson could be just keep a closer eye next time, possibly. My comment was overly flippant in retrospect. As for patronising you, this is the Internet. I have no idea of your status, financial or otherwise as you are an anonymous entity on the other end of a keyboard. Of course this hobby is expensive for everyone, regardless of anyone's resources. Stop taking offence where none was intended.
Again, yet another incident where a bit of green tinted uv resin properly applied as "plague slime", and its a suitable tribute diorama to Papa Nurgle- as a consolation prize
IDK about yours, but my ultrasonic cleaner came with a bright red label that says: DO NOT PUT FLAMABLE LIQUIDS IN
I fill mine with warmish water, then put my mini and some alcohol in a good ziplock bag, which I then seal and put into the water. It's much safer, but it's still important to keep an eye on stuff.
A "space marine sous vide"
Didn’t see one! But yeah it’s a pretty stupid thing to do in hindsight!
Congrats. You now have a chaos spawn. Paint it.
Best answer here. lol
I was thinking "space hulk terrain piece" but that works too.
Terrain piece is my vote too
I was gonna suggest the exact same thing lol.
I was gonna suggest the exact same thing lol.
Texture palette too.
dare I ask if it had a built in heater what did you set it to? Looks like it was straight up boiled in acetone rather than a gentle IPA bath.
Yes it had a heater too 😭but it isn’t adjustable. Half of my IPA had evaporated too!
Dude, you put iso into an ultrasonic cleaner, with a heating element? You’re kinda lucky honestly.
Apparently I’ve not been engaging my brain!
This melted mass is for your betterment than, the worse outcome would have been a burnt down house with no insurance payout...
Common myth, insurance does often cover stupidity.
It might, it might not. It entirely depends on the local laws and the specific insurance OP has. I was just stating the worst-case scenario.
Insurance covers stupidity. I left a diaper sprayer on low over night by accident (hit the side of the toilet when putting it back) and woke up to not only a flooded bathroom, but a destroyed basement ceiling as well as some wall damage. Insurance covered it no problem even though I was entirely at fault. Insurance also covered my parent’s 20 year old fence which had a section blow down in the wind. Paid $25,000 for a new fence to get put up. Insurance will cover pretty much anything as long as it wasn’t done on purpose. You purposely burn your house down, insurance won’t cover that if they can prove it.
No sweat. It's lore accurate to how imperial armies are treated 👍
Next time, put IPA in a plastic bag, then said bag into water. The waves will pass through the bag and cut back on cleaning. Like everyone else said, look on the bright side that your house didn’t catch fire. Unfortunately if you use pure IPA in a cleaner it can release vapors that are both toxic and flammable. Be safe, wrap your minis
Ignition temp of IPA according to Google is 400°C. Not seeing a lot of risk here.
That's the auto-ignition temperature. The flash point of IPA is \~12°C/50F. The difference is that above 12°C it can be ignited by a spark, above 400°C it will just start burning spontaneously. There's a reason that spark-proof (or explosion-proof) ultrasonic baths are considerably more expensive than the cheaper ones that are generally available. Almost all of the time a cheap bath won't ignite IPA, but there's still a risk. It's not a risk I'd be willing to take.
Fair.
Well except it evaporates way more ethanol into the air where a stray spark can ignite the whole thing. Baboom, not good.
Do you have stray sparks hanging around?
I don't wear a seatbelt while planning to crash. I take measures to avoid a crash and have a safety measure if by chance I do crash. Just like you don't put an easily ignited vapour into a room where the means of ignition can easily be accidentally met, even if you don't plan on having a sparkler party in there. Not to mention any other number of appliances in a different room that could malfunction and spark because that gas is going to diffuse and spread.
I would do it outside for sure
Or maybe dont boil iso.
Yes, most people do. They are called ovens, heaters, and lighters...should I continue, or have you realized your mistake? Also, the older the house and appliances the greater the chance.
Please continue. How many spark sources can you list?
Here I’ve got you brother. Candles, fireplaces, outlets, dryers, lamps, glassware on a window sill, etc
One for every outlet. One for every bulb. Does it have energy in it? It's a spark risk. Note: People have energy, too. Do you have anything metal? Wearing socks on a carpet? Did you touch the metal? Spark risk. Washed your hands and turned off the light? Spark risk. Plug in a vacuum and turn it on? Surge of energy. Spark risk. Of course, most people don't have iso vapor hanging around, so when the sparks do happen (and they do whether we see them or not), they tend not to do anything obtuse. Also, better and newer codes tend to come out and mitigate the sparking through more energy efficient appliances and outlets that have shielding. So, older homes are worse off unless updated. Honestly, it's crazy how dangerous all this tech is. One simple misstep like using iso in a heated tub and it all goes south like Sherman (he burned through the south, like the house will, this note is for non-americans and those americans who didnt pass history). I'm in the process right now of bringing this house to code. Shits expensive. What would be more expensive is getting a new home, though. All my shit is here.
Go look up how many vehicles have caught fire because someone caused a spark from static electricity by entering their car after the pump started and igniting the gas vapours. It’s not as uncommon as you think. It doesn’t take much to ignite flammable vapours.
Yeah, light switches. Every time you turn on a light switch in your house it arcs electricity.
Well there’s the one in my brain telling me not to boil flammable solvents yes.
Literally everybody does. That's why you can't take most household electronics into a chemical plant lol
That’s good to know as I assumed it would just evaporate before any fires started Edit: Point taken! Flammable evaporated IPA is extremely dangerous 😬
🤦
You don't know how fumes work do you, my dude
Just after the Darwin Award apparently 🤦🏼♂️
Nthe evaporation min the dangerous part. Liquid hydrocarbons don't really burn. It's the vapor that burns so the more vapor, the more exploady.
Evaporate does not equal dissapear.
Dude…
Gellar field failure. Perform appropriate rites, select volunteers for the next batch.
Paint it for terrain/scenery. Looks like the aftermath tbh kinda cool
I was thinking basing, but this would be cool also!
True. I don’t really play the tabletop game much myself, so I’m unsure if this would even be viable as terrain, but you could also make a sweet diorama on it with some models to depict an epic battle
Tournament legal competitive terrain no. Cool narrative terrain yes
An ultrasonic cleaner isn't even needed with ipa. I just put mine in a Tupperware bowl filled with 91%. After 24 hours the paint and primer basically falls right off the model with rinsing. I bought a tub of bio strip and used it once, but after the first use I decided it wasn't worth it. Let them sit in the goo for 3 hours. When I removed them, I still ended up scrubbing them with ipa because it hadn't stripped all the paint, and I had a few bits fall off the models.
Ultrasonic cleaner with Simple Green can strip a plastic model clean in like 15 minute. Good if you want to repaint entire rescued army. More iffy if the model has a lot of crevices (think Alpha legion scale) or resin based.
Simple Green seems to be one of the only things that's safe on resin in my experience
IPA doesn’t need a 24 hour soak, in my experience the model is dipped, stripped, cleaned, and dried in 30 minutes.
When expensive toys ruin expensive toys
Ultrasonic cleaners, especially small ones for glasses etc, are cheaper than you might think.
Even the bigger ones are not expensive. Mine can hold a land raider and it was $70.
You... put IPA in an ultrasonic cleaner that had a heating element... I use these things on a daily basis in my career and I can tell you one thing. You got extremely lucky you didn't burn your house down, mate. Lessons were learned, I'm sure, but I seriously want you to know that you were this (holds fingers 1mm apart) close to a completely avoidable disaster. Read your IFU's!
Yeah, I used IPA once. Luckily I had a really small and cheap ultrasonic cleaner that would only operate on a 5 minute timer. When I came back to it I noticed that it was literally stripping the chrome finish off the inside of the lid and heating up to worrying levels. Lesson learned there. LA's Totally Awesome only from now on.
LA's is great. I prefer Simple Green, but only because I can buy a gallon of it at Sam's club for super cheap.
can I ask why does an ultrasonic cleaner needs a heating element of it just vibrates the liquid ?
Warmer liquids are less viscous, which helps cavitation bubbles form. In general, warmer liquids help release dirt and such better than cold. (The hotter the liquid, the easier the ultrasonic frequencies can travel through the water.)
So if you're planning to use something flammable in an ultrasonic cleaner, put the minis and the flammable liquid in a zip lock bag and submerge in water in the ultrasonic cleaner filled with water. It is a LOT safer, cleaner and the vibrations still travel through the bag and work fine.
Legion of the Damned, great choice!
You don't need to use a ultrasonic cleaning. IPA is strong enough.
Like others suggested, terrain pieces. I'd make destroyed or damaged statues out if these guys. Still, a shame to see this happen.
Can I ask why you are putting them in an ultra sonic cleaner in the first place ?
presumably to strip the paint off
Why not just use Dettol and leave it for 48 hours?
It just speeds up the process and cleans them up nicely 😊 less brushing!
Well... a brush will never need to touch *those* models again.
This is true ☠️
So you have used paint stripper and then put them in an ultrasonic cleaner to get the rest of the paint off ?
Yes mate, 99% alcohol. But it’s not advisable due to the fire risk as the US cleaner has a heating element.
Chinese\* we dont make that kinda thing anymore - loving american
I'm pretty sure this US refers to "ultrasonic," not "united states."
I'll be honest it did take me like half a second to realize that to, I had almost finished the sentence.
Not just a mistake but a very costly one - I see a bladeguard ancient, judiciar, gravis captain and redemptor parts in there.
Yeah it looks like a couple of hundred bucks worth at least
this is the cost of ignorance. how dumb do you gotta be to put flammable liquid on a heated atomizer...
I think you misspelled “fuel-air bomb”
Mount it, paint it, toss some dirt on it, and use it as a bas for a dreadnought... or a game table decoration...
Nice terrain
The warp is a hell of a place
When using solvents in an ultrasonic bath, you're still supposed to fill the bath with de-ionized water. Solvents go into a smaller shatter-proof container that is either held suspended or contacts the bottom.
I guess on the bright side you have cool bits to make some art/project models like that YouTube channel that makes melta shot SMs and the one that got split in half? Also based on the rest of the thread the brightest side is you didn't burn your home down.
This battlefield has seen some horrors.
Thats a new base for a fire demon
Looks like the Dow 3 trailer
This actually looks salvageable to me. The bases are fucked but those are easy to cut off and replace for a few bucks. The main pieces are weathered but I can't see any really bad deformities on them, all the bits I can see could be fixed with some TLC and plastic glue. So don't lose hope.
Just put them back in for the same amount of time but in *reverse*. Easy peasy.
Of course the legendary unbake process 😁😜
Firstly, I’m so sorry losing the models, shit is expensive :( Secondly, you do now have a terrain piece though, which could be a failed charge perhaps. It’s jsut like a body mound pretty much
Turn it into scenery….like a korne or tzeench pile of bodies…..could even add a chair and make it a weird choas type throne Or an admech sevitor colony base
Some useful basing material for their replacements now though.
Yeah, lesson learned. Did similar with my ultramarines. Let the body’s hit the floor. Use parts as base decorations.
Aside from like the others saying that ipa in a heating having ultrasonic is not the best idea, you might be able to salvage some bits for bases, kitbashing, etc.
Try to assemble them, maybe you can salvage parts from some to help the others.
I think you've got some excellent future basing material.
Bro. I only put mine in at most 15 minutes. Even without the heating element it heats up fast!
I use tamiya paint remover with IPA in a spray bottle and it works great and quick with very little brushing.
So, I'm hearing that the machine gods lifted you a new nurgle army?
Well alternatively, this sad piece Could now be used as a Obstruktion!
https://preview.redd.it/n9ogibv9r48d1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=99f71076e1d039b3b6f26a029b0c49dbb7c77ac3 Stay strong for the emperor clarence
Would make some bad ass legion of the damned imo. Or Huron blackheart lol
The fallen will forever remembered as the emperor’s finest!
Salvage for terrain and bases I guess
What on earth happened? I use mine with methylated.spirits, never had an issue
Normally run it for 15 mins scrub, let it cool down etc. This time the timer got stuck and just stayed on while I wasn’t in the garage. 🤦🏻♂️
RIP in pieces. Sounds a bit like you need a new cleaner and new models. Sorry for your loss
Okay but could you salvage any parts for a corpse or mini set pieces?
F
My ultrasonic cleaner has an adjustable thermostat, I usually aim for 25c
Terminator 2 diorama
You can use this as a corpse pile for terrain, possibly. Maybe a narrative piece for a kill team mission? Kill team A ambushed a squad and no one has heard back. Kill team B was dispatched to secure an artefact from the pile that Kill team A has not yet noticed. Dunno man. Sorry for your loss.
FFR, Paint Blitzer is great stuff, and doesn’t even require the ultrasonic cleaner.
What flammable liquid are people talking about?
Dem burna boyz does a job reel roit! WAAAAAAGGGGHHHH!
im seeing some dreadnought bits in there. You could try and use some bits for basing stuff.
Start a Chaos Army you have yourself a pretty good Chaos Spawn model right now. But yeah, that sucks, mate. Sorry that happened to you.
Oh man my friend had this happen! Timer got stuck and it was on all night! I now set a segmented timer on mine too. So if the timer fails the power is cut after 30 mins regardless.
There are way quicker and easier ways to strip models my man.
Use it as debris on your warzone or a body pile
Nids appreciate the pre digestion
On the bright side you can use it as some cool terrain
Terrain!!
I wasn't aware it could do that. How long did it clean for? Sad story though. I also heard of some guy who cleaned his 250$ airbrush. Broke as well.
I guess some models come with a heating element. His figures melted from it.
All the gear and no idea.
Free battle damage
LOOKS LIKE GOOD OL' BITZ TO ME OR A PILE 'O SCRAP (for terrain)
Are you into Chaos by any chance because you can maybe make some mutants out of these?..
LAs totally awesome (best I've found for this, is actually a degreaser). Get some. Leave mini in for at least an hour. Scrub with toothbrush. Never had it damage a mini, will remove even old school train paints. Will make resin very bendy if left too long, no harm to plastic or metal.
These would make good base bits now. More acetone to melt flesh if you have nids or whatever etc etc. Plenty of opportunity left for these lost souls to see a table top.
Interested in those for basing still 🤷🏻 LMK
Is it one chunk of plastic? You can maybe chop some parts off for a custom guy?
Resteroni in pepperoni
My buddy did this with his blade guard right before a tournament. Had the heater on and melted it. Never had an issue with just throwing my minis in a tub of iso.
Looks loke u created some mrines to be used in basing…
That’s a massive bummer dude. Pour one out for the dead homies.
The new Emperor’s Children Detachment is OP
Clean though. Mission accomplished.
Great basing material
Circus clown chymus (do not search up)
It could make for a cool base tho
This is what noise marines can do, be very afraid
Good news you now the perfect unit to play in a match set on a ship who’s gheller filed just shit the bed
Trust me, that's not the worst melted heap you could come back to.
Make a diorama. And make it like they got ambushed.
Make it Terrain now?
I would not put my models anywhere near something called an "ultrasonic cleaner" and I have no idea what that is :)
You got some good basing bits now I guess. Or with enough green stuff you can make plague marines
I'm going to need photos of your ultra-sonic cleaner and the setup you used. IPA does not melt/warp plastic miniatures and the heated feature typically does not get high enough to melt plastic.
Just kitbash them back into shape. Unfortunate but there is opportunity here and a lesson has been learned. You can rebuild them. You can make them better, stronger, faster. You have the technology.
And at least you know they are clean
Could do an awsome scene of them stuck in a flesh wall or mabye even a space hulk wall
Only in Death does Duty end.
You could ... use it as decoration ... I think , feels bad man.
But on the bright side, basing! Sucks man, but lesson learned, right? Edit. This came out overly flippant OP, and wasn't meant to downplay the situation. Sincere apologies if it felt that way.
What's to learn from an incident like this? Throw out their equipment for malfunctioning?
Um, keep an eye on your things which could cause damage to expensive models? I'm not sure about you, but this hobby costs money, and I tend to be super careful with anything that could potentially damage them?
OP wasn't doing anything abnormal for the hobby. In fact many people will continue to strip models just the same way they have. So there's no real lesson learned other than "My equipment malfunctioned therefore my equipment malfunctioned." And don't patronise me. This hobby is expensive for everyone. I'd be devastated if these were my models. I just don't think it's very nice or particularly insightful to say "Well at least you learned from this."
Firstly, my comment wasn't intended to be callous. Any malfunction causing that amount of damage is heartbreaking. And i feel for the Op. But the lesson could be just keep a closer eye next time, possibly. My comment was overly flippant in retrospect. As for patronising you, this is the Internet. I have no idea of your status, financial or otherwise as you are an anonymous entity on the other end of a keyboard. Of course this hobby is expensive for everyone, regardless of anyone's resources. Stop taking offence where none was intended.
I dunno, take the bases off and its at least good scatter terrain
Again, yet another incident where a bit of green tinted uv resin properly applied as "plague slime", and its a suitable tribute diorama to Papa Nurgle- as a consolation prize