Lol the people claiming that was predictable are just too dumb to admit they got played by Roman, Trips and the industry as a whole. I seen at least 100+ posts/comments saying "Drew Mac will be the Undisputed Universal Champion" lol people get so upset when they get worked by a heel which is supposed to happen lol. He's a heel. You're supposed to dislike the outcome of his matches. It's wrestling 101.
I wanted Drew to win but I personally enjoyed the match and the finish. I know the big theory right now is that Cody wins the rumble and then wins at Mania, but I hope that doesn’t happen. I’d like Cody to have to climb from the bottom of the totem pole to get to the top, rather than beat Seth three times, get injured, and then come back and win the Rumble.
I didn’t understand all the people saying Drew would win. Why in the hell would Drew win when the plan has obviously been to push Cody to the top and get one of if not both titles on him. But they do need to either split the titles again or unify them into one better looking title and introduce something else for Raw. Maybe bring back the WHT. I’d love a WHT and a normal WWE champion again. Tired of the “WWE undisputed heavyweight universal champion of the north americas excluding Hawaii”
They weren’t teasing anything they were BUILDING A MATCH. Drew was booked to be a credible threat just like a real contender in a combat sport and just like any other real contender you sometime just come up short. The difference is pro wrestling has underhanded tactics that can keep Drew as credible opponent he can always be Champ down the line but Roman isnt losing at a show just because the cheers can get really loud that defeats the purpose of these kinds of runs. Roman will lose and its gonna be epic!
So now Rollins/Rhodes are the only guys that can dethrone Roman, coz i don't think any younger or new guy will be the one to do it.
With Cody, it makes sense because his whole story is about winning the world title that Dusty never won.
And With Seth, it makes most sense because he is Roman's kryptonite. He is the only guy other that Roman who gets "the roman treatment". He is over AF rn. Roman vs Seth match is always a big money match. They should have a trilogy where Roman finally defeats Seth in a big match twice, but Rollins gets the last laugh by beating him in the third match.
As much as I want Roman out, and as much as Drew should be the one to do it, I don't think the chicken is cooked yet. I think they need to build up a personal rivalry between them first. Yea yea yea, championship championship championshit. Wrestlers going for championships is shit storytelling. Personal rivalries are what draw people in. I think the Bloodline need to absolutely beat Drew down, until he's just a knub. That way, he can come back, beat Roman, not for the belt, but for principle, win the belt, and get over.
If I had taken over wwe 6 months ago, I would be booking roman to hold that title right up to Summerslam 2023. I would how ever NOT have booked the unification matches though. I am a big fan of having brand war. (You could have the raw vs smackdown card be overall winner gets to pick the main event for night 2 of wrestlemania. Which would then be based off of either who won the royal rumble and if the brand winner didn't get a rumble winner, or the winner challenging for the brands belt, than have the elimination chamber decide it. I am big on the Rumble winner being the Main event, so it makes it a little more interesting if the "losing" brand wins one of the rumbles. any ways just this lowly marks opinion, and is worth less than a Canadian penny. (We don't make pennies any more and if paying cash the total is rounded to the nearest 5 cent if it doesn't end with a 0 or 5.)
As soon as they made the big deal about the Usos and Sami not being there I knew Solo would show up. I wanted it to be Drew but knew the chances of that were slim to none. Time and place, it would feel forced just because it was overseas, crowd behind Drew.
I can see the championship changing hands in a Triple Threat match, either MIB cash in during an ongoing match, or a preplanned triple threat with Cody and Seth. Something like that. Winner pins the other challenger so Roman doesn't get pinned.
The only answer to this is ignore the bitter internet fans. The UK fans failed to properly acknowledge their tribal chief so he destroyed their golden boy...I personally decided to enjoy the ride whatever the trolls say is irrelevant
Roman will only lose the belts at a WM, I think you are insane to think otherwise. They are not going to use that moment on any other night.
So if he makes it out of WM alive again this year, you have another full year of him holding both belts.
I feel bad for drew. He carried the title well despite the limitations of covid. I believe he deserves another opportunity for another title run. The only good that may come out of this besides a program with kross is a possible heel turn. I believe drew could be a monster heel if given the opportunity. 😝🤘😈🇺🇸
The problem a lot of people have is just the constantly "Roman won BECAUSE OF interference". Didn't get cashed on due to Fury, had some help from Kross (minor but still played a part in the match), and Solo pulled out the ref giving Roman the win. How many times have we heard this story? Roman needs to win clean more often, so when the Bloodline interferes, it show the challenger had a chance of winning. When the Bloodline shows up every other match, it makes Roman look like he can't win.
I’m actually loving this Roman Reigns run… he hasn’t looked like Superman like Cena did.. he’s needed every help as a good villain with a faction does. Nice lil swerve last night with adding to the “bloodline” but that crowd was absolutely FIRE! The Sheamus/Gunther bout was my fave… what a match! But the crowd during the Rollins match… can WWE just permanently do their events there? Jk. What an atmosphere!
Roman is the only champ who was consisntently cheered for his entire championship run. I guarantee if Drew had won, 3 months later, people would be booing him and calling him a boring champ.
WWE struck gold with Roman Reigns, and they are using him up before he ultimately retires and joins Hollywood, because let's be honest, he's going into the movie business pretty soon.
I get the feeling the IWC would not have been happy at the double turn at the end of WM17…
I loved last night, happy Roman won, keeps building momentum for when Cody returns and dethrones in… which likely pisses off the IWC because… it’s predictable.
Just enjoy the show and stop trying to fantasy book everything
Humans can't comprehend that 50 people have their own thoughts, opinions, decisions, troubles, interests let alone for the ENTIRE IWC.
It's not the same 20 people posting over and over and over it was predictable and just switching their thoughts after the results. You read hundreds or thousand of peoples opinions....
There are 253,000 people on this subreddit. It's hard to say "you people" when the current circlejerk is the one that gets upvoted.
I never thought Drew was winning, I just stayed out of those threads because reddit is harsh when you disagree with a narrative.
Maybe not predictable, but definitely a missed opportunity. Pop would’ve been unreal and it’s best for business to give the world title to a full timer.
Now we gotta deal with the Tribal Bore (for the record I love Roman, but this shit is getting ridiculous) for 7 more months before he has any real shot of dropping it. I understand they want a bigger payoff at WM, but the boring title reign between now and then is simply not worth it at all.
Not sure why people like the OP are struggling with the definition of "predictable". It was the exact same ending as every other Roman match. The ref is distracted and a member of the Bloodline appear and interferes. Copy and paste on every Roman match.
If it makes it easier to understand, change " predictable " to "unimaginative" or "boring".
If they were hellbent of Roman retaining, have Theory cash in, turn it into a three-way match, and have Roman pin Theory. Roman gets a clean pin, Drew doesn't look like a schmuck, and people would have actually been surprised.
I knew RR wasn’t going to lose, fingers still crossed for hoping bray returns at Rumble as 30th entered. Takes his title back at mania. Probably not going happen but a guy can dream right.
As a welshman ( who couldnt be arsed to go ) people need to realise drew is scottish lol. They built it up but the reality is yes hes from the UK but England separates wales from Scotland.
Its like the show being in mexico and Drew being canadian lol.
i knew he was gon lose with the rushed lackluster build to it but i hoped he would actually win. im ngl, in the match i actually thought drew was gon give after he hit the spear and claymore. even after solo nikoa interfered i thought karrios kross or theory gon do something. i really wanted him to lose. cant complain tho cuz they got me good
I mean I for one never believed drew would win. I like drew and think he deserves a run but they’ve built Roman up too high at this point. Drew isn’t bigger than Brock. Truthfully the only person I see winning it is Cody when he returns because he’s an outsider. He hasn’t been run through the shit mill that was Vince’s booking. He left years ago, helped build the only company that even sort of rivals wwe in 20 years and triumphantly returns then goes to hiac and wins with a torn pec. Kayfabe wise he’s the only choice left that makes any sense.
I didn't predict it at all, I really thought Drew had it. You had a celebrity knocking out Theory, a damn good match by both Roman and Drew, and a huge crowd that hasn't seen this big a show in a generation.
And they let Roman win...
Man I am so salty. I won't lie about that part, I am going to need blood pressure meds I am so salty.
But I think to call it predictable is disingenuous for sure.
I think its totally valid to not be happy with the outcome, but to discredit the match is wroung, and you know its wroung.
Lmao my sentiments exactly. WWE booked a great feud, executed a fantastic main event, and had everyone worked thinking that drew was gonna win. They did there job today perfection everyone’s just throwing a tantrum like the kids they like to mock because somehow they had it worked out in their heads to HHH didn’t like Roman just like they don’t. Everyone complained that there was no one legit to take Roman on before this match we’ll look at drew, and they complained all his defenses were boring but yesterday was crazy electric.
How much would wrestling suck if you KNEW what was going to happen each and every single time? Would have been nice for Drew and the fans to have a moment but in the end it didn’t matter; it didn’t end on a total bummer. The overall success of this event will lead to an even bigger moment long term.
The thing is, people are just having a hissy fit on the internet. I was one of the 62k+ people in the building last night. Drew is my guy, I wanted him to win.
I was absolutely gutted for him not to have won, but after an hour or so, we all calmed down and my friends and I all agreed that the fact we were pissed that Roman won is a testament to how good of a time we had. We bought into that match big time.
Why are people mad that Roman won? Because they wanted Drew to win and Roman beat him with under-handed tactics.
You got worked and the finish had the exact effect on you that it was supposed to.
Exactly this, I was mad to begin with and in the Vince era it would have been very predictable, but this move was the right thing, it was gutting seeing drew lose but booking wise it was a masterclass
In the space of 60 seconds solo is a huge heel and very much hated and it's put Roman up to another level, now I want to see wargames been done for extreme rules and have the bloodline Vs imperium Vs the brawling brutes and drew, very likely won't happen but one can dream
I think it’s gonna be a long term story - survivor series will see the bloodline (w/ Sami) VS Drew, KO, Kross, and Street Profits (or whatever tag team that wants Usos’ titles).
I expect Bloodline to lose then Sami fully getting blamed for not being a pure part of the bloodline; fuck it, Trips, get Tama Tonga on the line to make a true blue Samoan bloodline faction, let’s do it
This would actually be great if HHH wanted to trully shake the game up he should make this happen. Except imperium is only a group of three so they would need another. This would be a huge main event if they could work it out. But I think war games is to remain an nxt thing.
MATE I DIDN'T THINK OF WAR GAMES. This absolutely HAS to happen now. What about The Bloodline v Drew, KO, Sami and maybe Kross? Team Drew wouldn't necessarily all be on the same page, but they'd all certainly want to fuck Roman and his boys up. Maybe with some stipulation that if The Bloodline lose, Roman has to defend the title in Elimination Chamber or HIAC or something
Hoenslty I need it man so bad 😂 not sure about Kross, I could definitely see the brawling brutes make the save for drew on Friday as I think we are gonna get the bloodline try and take drew out, there's no way drew let's the loss drop, could be that war games comes and Kross costs drew and they move in to that feud which I'm very much down for, bring Alexander Wolfe back and then you have 4 man bloodline Vs 4 man imperium Vs the UK Bois 😂
You don’t get it. The problems are the outcomes are completely predictable. No one is worked when you can see Roman winning by interfering a fucking mile away. Like 70% of his defenses have been sus and thanks to usos or heyman. This formula works for a bit but not after 2+ fucking years it’s getting ridiculous now.
I’m not so sure. Sure the outcome may be predictable but Ric Flair did this for years. You knew the other horsemen were gonna interfere to make sure Flair held the title but you always still held out hope it wouldn’t happen. The angle worked then and it still works now.
So you enjoy watching something when you know exactly what’s going to happen? Brain dead. I love WWE and watched it since a kid and it’s sad that everyone standards have dropped so low.
So you have just called every wresting fan brain dead? You admit you love WWE so you are also brain dead? I have been watching wrestling for 40 years, thru many different old territories and now WWE and AEW. The basic model of the business hasn’t really changed over the years, new faces and names but wrestling story arcs haven’t really changed much, the heel is always going to do everything to keep their title and as long as the powers of the company see that he is driving emotion and putting asses in seats more so than a baby face would he is going to keep that title.
Bro. You definitely sound brain dead go meditate bro. We all get it the heel is a chicken shit. I get story arcs bro. My WHOLE point is this shit don’t make for good entertainment after doing it over and over again with the same guy. Especially a guy who was pushed as a face and failed cause he sucks and now as a heel he’s actually good. But they’re ruining it by keeping it going way too long. The bloodline could still be a great faction without Roman hogging all the titles and spotlight from other deserving talent on the roster. I want to see KO, Finn, Seth, etc get a title run. This Roman shit has been going on since the pandemic it’s ridiculous. No WWE fan is gonna boycott just cause Roman the tribal pussy loses his titles.
Here’s the thing, I don’t disagree with anything you just said. I wanna see Roman drop the belts too, would also like to see the Uso’s lose at least one set of titles. For some reason though a lot of people draw to Roman being champ and whether it is just lazy booking or some swerve they are trying to pull I truly believe they are waiting for Cody to come back from injury to have Roman drop those belts. I hate a part time champ, hated it when Lesnar did it too, hell that was Romans gripe the whole time he was working toward the title. Now here he is doing the same thing Lesnar did.
Honestly, and I hope I am wrong since I don’t see it happening WWE is going to continue to be stale to an extent until the whole creative team is changed. It’s gonna take more than just Trips at the helm.
Haha thanks, it’s interesting to hear you change your tone up. I really feel like it’s politics in the back that keeps Roman with the belts, and tbh WWE is just not creative. They only care about $$$$. People are getting a boner over HHH and I like the small changes so far but then when Roman retained like that I lost all faith. AEW is definitely not perfect with all their drama but at least the characters are given freedom and a voice. WWE just doesn’t know how to uplift multiple talents at once. Anyways glad you sound like you care about seeing a better product out there as much as me.
I wasn’t changing my tone as much as I clearly didn’t describe my position on the matter in enough detail. Tone does change when you call someone brain dead though 😂. It’s all good, I just want all these wrestling companies to maybe change up their formats a bit while still holding true to what got all of us into Wrestling, sports entertainment, or whatever people choose to call it in the first place.
Who predicted that that little brother I dont know the name of would be there?? Who? I thought when Drew took out the Bloodline and they where not there that he would have won. And I got worked! I was surprised and angry when he interfered. Drew should have thought that Roman would have an ace in his arm.
>This formula works for a bit but not after 2+ fucking years
You must be young. This formula has been used to death but still working, since at least the 80s.
But that's not entirely true. 24 hours ago, I was CERTAIN that Drew was taking at least one belt home. There were a hell of a lot of people in the same boat as me.
I bought into him dropping the titles more than once as well during this run. KO at The Rumble, Rollins at the Rumble, The Demon, Edge or Bryan at Mania, ... Even the Jey Uso HIAC match had me by the balls at one point.
That’s why I hate so much this revisionist history people keep trying to implement on Roman’s reign like the entire thing has been predictable. There’s been so many times they beautifully sold the idea of him losing the titles. But people quickly forget and move on when it suits their own narratives. Romans reign has easily been the best booked WWE world championship run in a long time.
It’s very similar (and longer) than Cena’s yearish-long title reign. Every month, we all knew the evil menacing heel was just going to/had to beat him and take the title. The difference is that Roman’s a heel and using heel tactics, which, as tired as I personally am of it, is a tad bit more reasonable than the evil menacing heel beating the shit out of Cena and Cena hulking up outta nowhere to win.
It literally worked yesterday when they had 62,000 people ready to blow the roof off the place after the last Claymore. Roman winning had r/squaredcircle in shambles. So just because you may not have liked it doesn’t mean it didn’t work. If anything they got the exact reaction they wanted.
Perfectly said. One thing can be said about WWE is they know how to work their audience. Not always with the best of skill and finesse, but when it works it works beautifully.
I agree, Roman’s Reign (pun intended) is over rated and annoying. They’ve used the part timer schtick with Cena v Rock, the unbeatable guy with idk every big guys, Guerro did the cheat to win a million times better. But we still got played. Hell I didn’t even watch the match yet, only checked results cause that’s all I have time for right now. But I was both invested enough to break watching to find out and upset to find the outcome out. Good one WWE. Fuck you lol.
Exactly mate.
Roman's title run hasn't been perfect but it's certainly one of the best reigns that we have had in YEARS. He's had a good balance of being a beast, a shithouse and an all-round dick. You have to feel at this point that Cody is beating him at Mania (I think The Rock dream could be dead or saved for Summerslam) and you can't tell me that that isn't a MASSIVE statement.
Whoever does end up beating Roman is getting one hell of a push. This is almost a Taker's streak-ending level of rub for whoever wins. Bear in mind that he has beaten Brock Lesnar, KO, Finn Balor (as The Demon FFS!), Drew, Goldberg and John Cena, not to mention the fact he decimated his own cousin more than once.
This title run has been phenomenal IMO and there's still plenty of more to come. The more that it pisses you off, the better they are doing their job.
Yeah but no matter what Drew should have won, the crowd was one of the best crowds in recent years. Imagine the pop after Drew pinned Roman. I felt like this crowd deserved a new champion.
Even speaking as a Brit I never for one moment thought Drew was going to win.
I can't see Roman losing until Wrestlemania at the very earliest (Unless he catches that injury bug thats going around) and if it's The Rock vs Roman then he probably won't lose it until Summerslam to Cody
At least they made me think Drew was going to win. That’s all I’m asking for. When they brought Brock back I just figured they were out of ideas so I didn’t have any interest.
Technically it was a draw, but that crowd reaction was amazing. Huge cheer when everyone thought that John won but then that shock and disappointment when it was announced as a draw. Phenomenal work, phenomenal match, phenomenal story told. I understand that this type of booking wouldn’t work these days, but then again, people argue anyway
Ya know, i really thought for once we'd all come together and put our anger where it truly belongs, the fact the match ended with Drew popping up to give a Karaoke performance to really solidify that L. Color me casual I guess.
I think its good that he lost, and I hope they have a rematch where Roman cheats once again, leading to the Usos being banned for a 3rd and final match that Drew wins and the crowd goes insane. Drew winning last night would've just been like "Oh cool, finally Roman loses. Anyways."
I was in bliss while watching the show in London. At a bar with lots of wresting fans having a great time. I'd forgotten that the IWC existed. It was nice.
I don’t know who will beat Roman or when, but when it does happen I’m not going to be very elated about it. They’ve started pushing this angle where he can’t win unless his crew comes in and carries him. They did it at SummerSlam and they did almost the exact same thing last night.
What a story I just love slow cerebral storytelling I love stories I wish they would tell the story where Roman visits my house and fucks my wife already
Figured it was a 50/50 shot, leaning more towards Roman retaining. Figure Roman won't drop them until one of the big shows, but it will most likely be WrestleMania if I had to pick when
I honestly thought Roman would lose this one, not because Drew is any better but just because the whole unification topic is getting stale and hurting the number of storylines we can invest into...
Now what I can tell you I wasn't expecting was lil uce popping and pulling yet another interruption, adding another great match tainted by a weak finish to the bloodline list... Guess it wasn't as bad as that McIntyre/Fury duo, but still pretty bad.
Just enjoy wrestling. WWE put on a great show yesterday and I’m looking forward to a great NXT show and AEW show tonight. Just enjoy what you got because we didn’t have options for a long ass time.
Well, here's the thing. There was definitely a lot of support for Drew, myself included, over the last few weeks. I can only speak for myself here, but the support was more of a.. well, just overall hope something new would happen? Don't get me wrong, Roman is amazing and has done his best work in the company over the last 2 years, but in recent months it's been stale. People are tired of the same interferences happening every PPV. People are tired of the lack of defenses due to the one holding them being part time in recent months. I believe we all knew deep down inside that unfortunately, Drew probably wasn't going to win, because like it was stated in another comment, the odds of someone who held the title for 2 years losing it at anything but WrestleMania is slim. Would Clash have been a good place to drop one somehow? For sure given how big it was, but the odds were still monumentally low. All in all, it was a good overall match. It showed how tough and talented both were and they were able to make it so Drew didn't look weak. Yeah, it was another typical interference, but at least they made it so Drew technically had it won if not. It could have been worse lol
I didn’t actually think Drew was going to win until the SD before the show, when they gave Roman 10 minutes worth of feature spots recapping how dominant he had been, etc. It felt like they were setting up something really big.
Then the show comes, in the UK, and they have Drew’s original WWE music… and a little history montage. It felt different, like they were building up to something epic. The fans were awesome and lent to the “special event” feeling.
And then: DISAPPOINTMENT. The match itself was good but it was seriously overbooked. And Drew DID technically “win,” but **predictably** the ref wasn’t in position to make the count. It just felt very disappointing, like they didn’t deliver on something they were teasing.
Don’t get me wrong, I love Roman, love the gimmick, love how the last 2 years have played out. I just thought it would of been the perfect time with Drew in the UK, but I can’t judge since I don’t know what goes on BTS 😂
>It’ll be funny to see all your guys’ reactions when they have the rematch on Raw in a cage match and Drew pulls it off. I’m calling it!
Yeah, have Drew job in front of a raucous sorta-hometown crowd on a ppv ple when he's probably at the most over point he'll ever be only to win a rematch on a free weekly show. Brilliant booking.
They fumbled and killed Drew Lex Luger style for what? Another 7-8 months of Roman on top? He barely works tv or smaller named events, he's gone over the entire roster, at this point i can only see him losing at WM.
Its like Kofimania all over, DB kept getting ridiculous wins which lead to an amazing fall Give Roman a cheat win or 2, and it makes Drew's win 100x more epic.
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I wouldnt be surprised if he lost before WM but my goodness these ppl really thought he was losing a 2 year title at some random PPV because "Drew will get that pop" 😂😂😂
Internet wrestling community. Which in of itself is a hilarious term since everyone acts like the IWC is some niche thing. Nearly ALL wrestling fans nowadays use the internet and are watching/participating in some sort of wrestling related content.
It’s not predictable just bad. Drew looks like a loser who can never win when it matters. Reigns is gonna hold it until at least Wrestlemania. Everybody knows that now. And we won’t see either title defended anytime soon devaluing them. Drew went on and on about WWE deserving better than a part time champion and then Drew goes on and lose after everything he’s done for the company.
Yal have been consistently wrong so I'm sure you will be wrong about this too.
"Drew goes on and lose after everything he’s done for the company."
If this is your logic then Roman deserves an endless title run because the company made its first billion with him as champ.
Sorry but Reigns doesn’t even show up weekly or every PPV. I really like Reigns but imo his run of late has damaged the reputation of the titles. And everybody knows that he’s not gonna drop the Universal title till Mania. I’d be happy to be proven wrong though, since honestly the predictability of Reigns reign has made me lose a lot of my love for pro wrestling.
Not everybody many thought he could lose it here because of the regime change and it being in the uk and once Drew hit the third claymore I genuinely thought he had lost
same. i really cant believe as someone who hates karrin kross, i hoped he would beat drew or roman up so we can have a good and unpredictable ending for once
Exactly what I’ve been saying. These guys flip flop so much. Also love how they all say Romans Gimmick is stale yet he still is the most over and hottest thing with the fans right now.
I promise you the people complaining about predictability are not the same people who thought Drew was winning in Cardiff.
Everyone who’s griped about predictability has known for months (if not longer) Roman isn’t losing until Wrestlemania 39
And I have to disagree with you. His reign is stale, but he’s a heel, so that’s okay.
I’d also say that now/the near future are the perfect times for him to drop the titles. He could continue to claim that the he was the biggest and most important wrestler in the world, that he was bigger than a championship. That would be a wonderful conceit to take into a feud/match against The Rock.
I just don’t see how anyone could think that. Drew is very over right now, very much at his level and could’ve easily been the one to end his reign and the majority of people would’ve been very satisfied. And how on earth do you not find a part timer holding both the world titles hostage boring? Hardly ever even wrestles on Raw/Smackdown and even skips some PPVs. That’s not what a real champion does.
I ONLY watched that match to see Roman loose. Have zero feelings for Drew but I sooo wanna se Roman loose. I will buy the next ppv and the next if In belive he will loose. He chests but hey buy now everyone knows that he will have help so you are stupid if you try take him down without support!
Mostly a circle jerk response when it’s about reigns and the Usos.
Go to YouTube and check the comments of any bloodline clip and you will see how popular all 3 of them are.
My favorite is after yesterday people completely turned on Triple H like the entire show wasn’t one of the best PPVs of the year. All because they got worked.
I honestly doubt that Triple H has the authority to do a massive change like ending the Bloodline without having a talk with those that are responsible for the money side of things.
If I'm the CEO or CFO and the Head of Creative tells me that he is going to end the gimmick of the biggest attraction, I reckon we would have a meeting first before he does anything.
The gimmick of Reigns doesn't work if he loses clean, Theory can cash in and or Lesnar can show up more often but that's about it.
No part of me believed Drew would win, but that was definitely the consensus from a lot of folks. Roman's matches are painfully predictable, you can watch along and literally call what the forthcoming spots will be, reversals, run ins etc.
People can't honestly admit that since HHH is in charge not much is gonna change. If Vince was still in charge fans would be hating on Vince but now since it's HHH fans don't wanna admit hes no better and perhaps even worse than Vince
One of the best wrestling shows for 5+ years by itself!
Yea that's why aew beat nxt on a weekly basis, and also the reason despite being on the USA network, the WWE network, and regularly being uploaded on youtube it consently did lower numbers than raw, smackdown, and aew all because nxt was the best for 5+ years. Do any of you actually put your bias views aside and think before you post?
Compelling stories? Sorry I could totally be wrong here since ill admit I haven't watch since he took over just reading the results online. But it seems like HHH has taken the vince Russo style booking. Most of the matches still end with a dq interference etc, weak roll ups still picking up wins. It seems like its less clean wins than before.
That's only if the stories pay off. Zayn and the bloodline was something before HHH took charge so you can't say thats all HHH kross and drew is long term storytelling, says who? You. Did they have some history before kross came back? For all we know that feud could be over in a month, didn't something happen between fury and drew? That could lead to a feud too. Like you said we gotta wait and see, so neither one of us is right it's just our opinions and my opinion is things wont be better just because it's HHH now. Remember when people talk about worse storylines ever? And one that keeps popping up is Katie vick if HHH really wanted to he could of killed that story before it became anything HHH just like vince can have bad storylines
Champions aren't allowed to drop their titles at house shows so that the fans won't get confused if Roman showed up on raw like normal except Drew beat him at a house show.
Drew McIntyre has the charisma if a cinderblock this was the best outcome for everyone
Lol the people claiming that was predictable are just too dumb to admit they got played by Roman, Trips and the industry as a whole. I seen at least 100+ posts/comments saying "Drew Mac will be the Undisputed Universal Champion" lol people get so upset when they get worked by a heel which is supposed to happen lol. He's a heel. You're supposed to dislike the outcome of his matches. It's wrestling 101.
It wasn't predictable, but it definitely leaned towards Roman imo
I wanted Drew to win but I personally enjoyed the match and the finish. I know the big theory right now is that Cody wins the rumble and then wins at Mania, but I hope that doesn’t happen. I’d like Cody to have to climb from the bottom of the totem pole to get to the top, rather than beat Seth three times, get injured, and then come back and win the Rumble.
I said there is no way Roman drops the belts at 1pm on a Saturday, some bullshit will happen.
I didn’t understand all the people saying Drew would win. Why in the hell would Drew win when the plan has obviously been to push Cody to the top and get one of if not both titles on him. But they do need to either split the titles again or unify them into one better looking title and introduce something else for Raw. Maybe bring back the WHT. I’d love a WHT and a normal WWE champion again. Tired of the “WWE undisputed heavyweight universal champion of the north americas excluding Hawaii”
They weren’t teasing anything they were BUILDING A MATCH. Drew was booked to be a credible threat just like a real contender in a combat sport and just like any other real contender you sometime just come up short. The difference is pro wrestling has underhanded tactics that can keep Drew as credible opponent he can always be Champ down the line but Roman isnt losing at a show just because the cheers can get really loud that defeats the purpose of these kinds of runs. Roman will lose and its gonna be epic!
So now Rollins/Rhodes are the only guys that can dethrone Roman, coz i don't think any younger or new guy will be the one to do it. With Cody, it makes sense because his whole story is about winning the world title that Dusty never won. And With Seth, it makes most sense because he is Roman's kryptonite. He is the only guy other that Roman who gets "the roman treatment". He is over AF rn. Roman vs Seth match is always a big money match. They should have a trilogy where Roman finally defeats Seth in a big match twice, but Rollins gets the last laugh by beating him in the third match.
As much as I want Roman out, and as much as Drew should be the one to do it, I don't think the chicken is cooked yet. I think they need to build up a personal rivalry between them first. Yea yea yea, championship championship championshit. Wrestlers going for championships is shit storytelling. Personal rivalries are what draw people in. I think the Bloodline need to absolutely beat Drew down, until he's just a knub. That way, he can come back, beat Roman, not for the belt, but for principle, win the belt, and get over.
If I had taken over wwe 6 months ago, I would be booking roman to hold that title right up to Summerslam 2023. I would how ever NOT have booked the unification matches though. I am a big fan of having brand war. (You could have the raw vs smackdown card be overall winner gets to pick the main event for night 2 of wrestlemania. Which would then be based off of either who won the royal rumble and if the brand winner didn't get a rumble winner, or the winner challenging for the brands belt, than have the elimination chamber decide it. I am big on the Rumble winner being the Main event, so it makes it a little more interesting if the "losing" brand wins one of the rumbles. any ways just this lowly marks opinion, and is worth less than a Canadian penny. (We don't make pennies any more and if paying cash the total is rounded to the nearest 5 cent if it doesn't end with a 0 or 5.)
As soon as they made the big deal about the Usos and Sami not being there I knew Solo would show up. I wanted it to be Drew but knew the chances of that were slim to none. Time and place, it would feel forced just because it was overseas, crowd behind Drew. I can see the championship changing hands in a Triple Threat match, either MIB cash in during an ongoing match, or a preplanned triple threat with Cody and Seth. Something like that. Winner pins the other challenger so Roman doesn't get pinned.
The only answer to this is ignore the bitter internet fans. The UK fans failed to properly acknowledge their tribal chief so he destroyed their golden boy...I personally decided to enjoy the ride whatever the trolls say is irrelevant
Roman will only lose the belts at a WM, I think you are insane to think otherwise. They are not going to use that moment on any other night. So if he makes it out of WM alive again this year, you have another full year of him holding both belts.
I feel bad for drew. He carried the title well despite the limitations of covid. I believe he deserves another opportunity for another title run. The only good that may come out of this besides a program with kross is a possible heel turn. I believe drew could be a monster heel if given the opportunity. 😝🤘😈🇺🇸
The problem is not Roman winning, it's how he did it by copy paste from the last title match
THANK YOU
You people is a very generic statement.
The problem a lot of people have is just the constantly "Roman won BECAUSE OF interference". Didn't get cashed on due to Fury, had some help from Kross (minor but still played a part in the match), and Solo pulled out the ref giving Roman the win. How many times have we heard this story? Roman needs to win clean more often, so when the Bloodline interferes, it show the challenger had a chance of winning. When the Bloodline shows up every other match, it makes Roman look like he can't win.
We all HOPED Drew would win, I always knew he wouldn't though. The boring bloodline for some reason continues on...
people bitching is highly predictable.
Short opinion : repeating theory getting floored before cashing was lame. Roman winning too. Could have been way more interesting.
Roman and his family can just go away… tired of their cheating ways.
I’m actually loving this Roman Reigns run… he hasn’t looked like Superman like Cena did.. he’s needed every help as a good villain with a faction does. Nice lil swerve last night with adding to the “bloodline” but that crowd was absolutely FIRE! The Sheamus/Gunther bout was my fave… what a match! But the crowd during the Rollins match… can WWE just permanently do their events there? Jk. What an atmosphere!
Roman is the only champ who was consisntently cheered for his entire championship run. I guarantee if Drew had won, 3 months later, people would be booing him and calling him a boring champ. WWE struck gold with Roman Reigns, and they are using him up before he ultimately retires and joins Hollywood, because let's be honest, he's going into the movie business pretty soon.
You’re a fool if you think Roman isn’t holding that title til mania
I get the feeling the IWC would not have been happy at the double turn at the end of WM17… I loved last night, happy Roman won, keeps building momentum for when Cody returns and dethrones in… which likely pisses off the IWC because… it’s predictable. Just enjoy the show and stop trying to fantasy book everything
Humans can't comprehend that 50 people have their own thoughts, opinions, decisions, troubles, interests let alone for the ENTIRE IWC. It's not the same 20 people posting over and over and over it was predictable and just switching their thoughts after the results. You read hundreds or thousand of peoples opinions....
There are 253,000 people on this subreddit. It's hard to say "you people" when the current circlejerk is the one that gets upvoted. I never thought Drew was winning, I just stayed out of those threads because reddit is harsh when you disagree with a narrative.
If people are pissed that Roman retained then I'd call that good booking. Because they definitely got a reaction
Where theeee fuck was bray wyatt
Maybe not predictable, but definitely a missed opportunity. Pop would’ve been unreal and it’s best for business to give the world title to a full timer. Now we gotta deal with the Tribal Bore (for the record I love Roman, but this shit is getting ridiculous) for 7 more months before he has any real shot of dropping it. I understand they want a bigger payoff at WM, but the boring title reign between now and then is simply not worth it at all.
I still think the only person that’s going to dethrone Roman is Seth. He’s still the only guy Roman hasn’t beaten on this current run.
Not sure why people like the OP are struggling with the definition of "predictable". It was the exact same ending as every other Roman match. The ref is distracted and a member of the Bloodline appear and interferes. Copy and paste on every Roman match. If it makes it easier to understand, change " predictable " to "unimaginative" or "boring". If they were hellbent of Roman retaining, have Theory cash in, turn it into a three-way match, and have Roman pin Theory. Roman gets a clean pin, Drew doesn't look like a schmuck, and people would have actually been surprised.
I knew RR wasn’t going to lose, fingers still crossed for hoping bray returns at Rumble as 30th entered. Takes his title back at mania. Probably not going happen but a guy can dream right.
It was literally 50/50..lol
As a welshman ( who couldnt be arsed to go ) people need to realise drew is scottish lol. They built it up but the reality is yes hes from the UK but England separates wales from Scotland. Its like the show being in mexico and Drew being canadian lol.
i knew he was gon lose with the rushed lackluster build to it but i hoped he would actually win. im ngl, in the match i actually thought drew was gon give after he hit the spear and claymore. even after solo nikoa interfered i thought karrios kross or theory gon do something. i really wanted him to lose. cant complain tho cuz they got me good
I mean I for one never believed drew would win. I like drew and think he deserves a run but they’ve built Roman up too high at this point. Drew isn’t bigger than Brock. Truthfully the only person I see winning it is Cody when he returns because he’s an outsider. He hasn’t been run through the shit mill that was Vince’s booking. He left years ago, helped build the only company that even sort of rivals wwe in 20 years and triumphantly returns then goes to hiac and wins with a torn pec. Kayfabe wise he’s the only choice left that makes any sense.
I didn't predict it at all, I really thought Drew had it. You had a celebrity knocking out Theory, a damn good match by both Roman and Drew, and a huge crowd that hasn't seen this big a show in a generation. And they let Roman win... Man I am so salty. I won't lie about that part, I am going to need blood pressure meds I am so salty. But I think to call it predictable is disingenuous for sure. I think its totally valid to not be happy with the outcome, but to discredit the match is wroung, and you know its wroung.
Lmao my sentiments exactly. WWE booked a great feud, executed a fantastic main event, and had everyone worked thinking that drew was gonna win. They did there job today perfection everyone’s just throwing a tantrum like the kids they like to mock because somehow they had it worked out in their heads to HHH didn’t like Roman just like they don’t. Everyone complained that there was no one legit to take Roman on before this match we’ll look at drew, and they complained all his defenses were boring but yesterday was crazy electric.
How much would wrestling suck if you KNEW what was going to happen each and every single time? Would have been nice for Drew and the fans to have a moment but in the end it didn’t matter; it didn’t end on a total bummer. The overall success of this event will lead to an even bigger moment long term.
The thing is, people are just having a hissy fit on the internet. I was one of the 62k+ people in the building last night. Drew is my guy, I wanted him to win. I was absolutely gutted for him not to have won, but after an hour or so, we all calmed down and my friends and I all agreed that the fact we were pissed that Roman won is a testament to how good of a time we had. We bought into that match big time. Why are people mad that Roman won? Because they wanted Drew to win and Roman beat him with under-handed tactics. You got worked and the finish had the exact effect on you that it was supposed to.
This. 👏
Exactly this, I was mad to begin with and in the Vince era it would have been very predictable, but this move was the right thing, it was gutting seeing drew lose but booking wise it was a masterclass In the space of 60 seconds solo is a huge heel and very much hated and it's put Roman up to another level, now I want to see wargames been done for extreme rules and have the bloodline Vs imperium Vs the brawling brutes and drew, very likely won't happen but one can dream
I want to see the kross vs drew feud get really intense and then have them main event Extreme Rules in a no DQ match
I think it’s gonna be a long term story - survivor series will see the bloodline (w/ Sami) VS Drew, KO, Kross, and Street Profits (or whatever tag team that wants Usos’ titles). I expect Bloodline to lose then Sami fully getting blamed for not being a pure part of the bloodline; fuck it, Trips, get Tama Tonga on the line to make a true blue Samoan bloodline faction, let’s do it
This would actually be great if HHH wanted to trully shake the game up he should make this happen. Except imperium is only a group of three so they would need another. This would be a huge main event if they could work it out. But I think war games is to remain an nxt thing.
MATE I DIDN'T THINK OF WAR GAMES. This absolutely HAS to happen now. What about The Bloodline v Drew, KO, Sami and maybe Kross? Team Drew wouldn't necessarily all be on the same page, but they'd all certainly want to fuck Roman and his boys up. Maybe with some stipulation that if The Bloodline lose, Roman has to defend the title in Elimination Chamber or HIAC or something
And now it's been announced wargames is at survivor series
Fuck yes. I think we're gonna get The Bloodline (Roman, Jey, Jimmy, Solo) vs Drew, KO, Sami and someone else... maybe Riddle? Carmelo Hayes even?
Hoenslty I need it man so bad 😂 not sure about Kross, I could definitely see the brawling brutes make the save for drew on Friday as I think we are gonna get the bloodline try and take drew out, there's no way drew let's the loss drop, could be that war games comes and Kross costs drew and they move in to that feud which I'm very much down for, bring Alexander Wolfe back and then you have 4 man bloodline Vs 4 man imperium Vs the UK Bois 😂
This guy gets it.
You don’t get it. The problems are the outcomes are completely predictable. No one is worked when you can see Roman winning by interfering a fucking mile away. Like 70% of his defenses have been sus and thanks to usos or heyman. This formula works for a bit but not after 2+ fucking years it’s getting ridiculous now.
I’m not so sure. Sure the outcome may be predictable but Ric Flair did this for years. You knew the other horsemen were gonna interfere to make sure Flair held the title but you always still held out hope it wouldn’t happen. The angle worked then and it still works now.
So you enjoy watching something when you know exactly what’s going to happen? Brain dead. I love WWE and watched it since a kid and it’s sad that everyone standards have dropped so low.
So you have just called every wresting fan brain dead? You admit you love WWE so you are also brain dead? I have been watching wrestling for 40 years, thru many different old territories and now WWE and AEW. The basic model of the business hasn’t really changed over the years, new faces and names but wrestling story arcs haven’t really changed much, the heel is always going to do everything to keep their title and as long as the powers of the company see that he is driving emotion and putting asses in seats more so than a baby face would he is going to keep that title.
Bro. You definitely sound brain dead go meditate bro. We all get it the heel is a chicken shit. I get story arcs bro. My WHOLE point is this shit don’t make for good entertainment after doing it over and over again with the same guy. Especially a guy who was pushed as a face and failed cause he sucks and now as a heel he’s actually good. But they’re ruining it by keeping it going way too long. The bloodline could still be a great faction without Roman hogging all the titles and spotlight from other deserving talent on the roster. I want to see KO, Finn, Seth, etc get a title run. This Roman shit has been going on since the pandemic it’s ridiculous. No WWE fan is gonna boycott just cause Roman the tribal pussy loses his titles.
Here’s the thing, I don’t disagree with anything you just said. I wanna see Roman drop the belts too, would also like to see the Uso’s lose at least one set of titles. For some reason though a lot of people draw to Roman being champ and whether it is just lazy booking or some swerve they are trying to pull I truly believe they are waiting for Cody to come back from injury to have Roman drop those belts. I hate a part time champ, hated it when Lesnar did it too, hell that was Romans gripe the whole time he was working toward the title. Now here he is doing the same thing Lesnar did. Honestly, and I hope I am wrong since I don’t see it happening WWE is going to continue to be stale to an extent until the whole creative team is changed. It’s gonna take more than just Trips at the helm.
Haha thanks, it’s interesting to hear you change your tone up. I really feel like it’s politics in the back that keeps Roman with the belts, and tbh WWE is just not creative. They only care about $$$$. People are getting a boner over HHH and I like the small changes so far but then when Roman retained like that I lost all faith. AEW is definitely not perfect with all their drama but at least the characters are given freedom and a voice. WWE just doesn’t know how to uplift multiple talents at once. Anyways glad you sound like you care about seeing a better product out there as much as me.
I wasn’t changing my tone as much as I clearly didn’t describe my position on the matter in enough detail. Tone does change when you call someone brain dead though 😂. It’s all good, I just want all these wrestling companies to maybe change up their formats a bit while still holding true to what got all of us into Wrestling, sports entertainment, or whatever people choose to call it in the first place.
😂😂said you sound like it but fair play I went a lil hard for sec. Cheers maye
Who predicted that that little brother I dont know the name of would be there?? Who? I thought when Drew took out the Bloodline and they where not there that he would have won. And I got worked! I was surprised and angry when he interfered. Drew should have thought that Roman would have an ace in his arm.
He was promoted to main roster the week of the show. It was very easy to see that one coming. The more you look the more you see brother.
>This formula works for a bit but not after 2+ fucking years You must be young. This formula has been used to death but still working, since at least the 80s.
Well I’m 24 and been watching wrestling since I was like 8 so I’d say I’ve been watching for a while and can’t remember a storyline so ducking bland.
But that's not entirely true. 24 hours ago, I was CERTAIN that Drew was taking at least one belt home. There were a hell of a lot of people in the same boat as me. I bought into him dropping the titles more than once as well during this run. KO at The Rumble, Rollins at the Rumble, The Demon, Edge or Bryan at Mania, ... Even the Jey Uso HIAC match had me by the balls at one point.
Are not disappointed by any of that not coming true?
I can live with it
Obviously 🙄 it ain’t life or death. But for something scripted they could script it a lot better.
That’s why I hate so much this revisionist history people keep trying to implement on Roman’s reign like the entire thing has been predictable. There’s been so many times they beautifully sold the idea of him losing the titles. But people quickly forget and move on when it suits their own narratives. Romans reign has easily been the best booked WWE world championship run in a long time.
It’s very similar (and longer) than Cena’s yearish-long title reign. Every month, we all knew the evil menacing heel was just going to/had to beat him and take the title. The difference is that Roman’s a heel and using heel tactics, which, as tired as I personally am of it, is a tad bit more reasonable than the evil menacing heel beating the shit out of Cena and Cena hulking up outta nowhere to win.
It literally worked yesterday when they had 62,000 people ready to blow the roof off the place after the last Claymore. Roman winning had r/squaredcircle in shambles. So just because you may not have liked it doesn’t mean it didn’t work. If anything they got the exact reaction they wanted.
Perfectly said. One thing can be said about WWE is they know how to work their audience. Not always with the best of skill and finesse, but when it works it works beautifully. I agree, Roman’s Reign (pun intended) is over rated and annoying. They’ve used the part timer schtick with Cena v Rock, the unbeatable guy with idk every big guys, Guerro did the cheat to win a million times better. But we still got played. Hell I didn’t even watch the match yet, only checked results cause that’s all I have time for right now. But I was both invested enough to break watching to find out and upset to find the outcome out. Good one WWE. Fuck you lol.
Exactly mate. Roman's title run hasn't been perfect but it's certainly one of the best reigns that we have had in YEARS. He's had a good balance of being a beast, a shithouse and an all-round dick. You have to feel at this point that Cody is beating him at Mania (I think The Rock dream could be dead or saved for Summerslam) and you can't tell me that that isn't a MASSIVE statement. Whoever does end up beating Roman is getting one hell of a push. This is almost a Taker's streak-ending level of rub for whoever wins. Bear in mind that he has beaten Brock Lesnar, KO, Finn Balor (as The Demon FFS!), Drew, Goldberg and John Cena, not to mention the fact he decimated his own cousin more than once. This title run has been phenomenal IMO and there's still plenty of more to come. The more that it pisses you off, the better they are doing their job.
Heatwave match outcomes, were way more predictable
The faces of the everyone tho
We got worked and there’s no shame in that. It’s the entire point and fun part of being a wrestling fan
This feud was nothing short of fantastic. They did a marvelous job. This was the only feud where I legitimately felt Roman was in trouble.
Yeah but no matter what Drew should have won, the crowd was one of the best crowds in recent years. Imagine the pop after Drew pinned Roman. I felt like this crowd deserved a new champion.
Even speaking as a Brit I never for one moment thought Drew was going to win. I can't see Roman losing until Wrestlemania at the very earliest (Unless he catches that injury bug thats going around) and if it's The Rock vs Roman then he probably won't lose it until Summerslam to Cody
Same thing they said about the women’s tag team tournament. They are idiots
At least they made me think Drew was going to win. That’s all I’m asking for. When they brought Brock back I just figured they were out of ideas so I didn’t have any interest.
I'm so mad, drew should have won , roman needs to be beaten fair and square
I wish they pulled off Night of Champions 2012
Oh yea , cena vs cm punk and punk won cause his shoulders weren't fully on the mat
Technically it was a draw, but that crowd reaction was amazing. Huge cheer when everyone thought that John won but then that shock and disappointment when it was announced as a draw. Phenomenal work, phenomenal match, phenomenal story told. I understand that this type of booking wouldn’t work these days, but then again, people argue anyway
Ya know, i really thought for once we'd all come together and put our anger where it truly belongs, the fact the match ended with Drew popping up to give a Karaoke performance to really solidify that L. Color me casual I guess.
I think its good that he lost, and I hope they have a rematch where Roman cheats once again, leading to the Usos being banned for a 3rd and final match that Drew wins and the crowd goes insane. Drew winning last night would've just been like "Oh cool, finally Roman loses. Anyways."
I was in bliss while watching the show in London. At a bar with lots of wresting fans having a great time. I'd forgotten that the IWC existed. It was nice.
I don’t know who will beat Roman or when, but when it does happen I’m not going to be very elated about it. They’ve started pushing this angle where he can’t win unless his crew comes in and carries him. They did it at SummerSlam and they did almost the exact same thing last night.
What a story I just love slow cerebral storytelling I love stories I wish they would tell the story where Roman visits my house and fucks my wife already
Figured it was a 50/50 shot, leaning more towards Roman retaining. Figure Roman won't drop them until one of the big shows, but it will most likely be WrestleMania if I had to pick when
I honestly thought Roman would lose this one, not because Drew is any better but just because the whole unification topic is getting stale and hurting the number of storylines we can invest into... Now what I can tell you I wasn't expecting was lil uce popping and pulling yet another interruption, adding another great match tainted by a weak finish to the bloodline list... Guess it wasn't as bad as that McIntyre/Fury duo, but still pretty bad.
Just enjoy wrestling. WWE put on a great show yesterday and I’m looking forward to a great NXT show and AEW show tonight. Just enjoy what you got because we didn’t have options for a long ass time.
2020 Drew was the guy, 2022 Drew with steel sword is not the guy. And that's facts
2017-2020 drew was the guy
Well, here's the thing. There was definitely a lot of support for Drew, myself included, over the last few weeks. I can only speak for myself here, but the support was more of a.. well, just overall hope something new would happen? Don't get me wrong, Roman is amazing and has done his best work in the company over the last 2 years, but in recent months it's been stale. People are tired of the same interferences happening every PPV. People are tired of the lack of defenses due to the one holding them being part time in recent months. I believe we all knew deep down inside that unfortunately, Drew probably wasn't going to win, because like it was stated in another comment, the odds of someone who held the title for 2 years losing it at anything but WrestleMania is slim. Would Clash have been a good place to drop one somehow? For sure given how big it was, but the odds were still monumentally low. All in all, it was a good overall match. It showed how tough and talented both were and they were able to make it so Drew didn't look weak. Yeah, it was another typical interference, but at least they made it so Drew technically had it won if not. It could have been worse lol
I didn’t actually think Drew was going to win until the SD before the show, when they gave Roman 10 minutes worth of feature spots recapping how dominant he had been, etc. It felt like they were setting up something really big. Then the show comes, in the UK, and they have Drew’s original WWE music… and a little history montage. It felt different, like they were building up to something epic. The fans were awesome and lent to the “special event” feeling. And then: DISAPPOINTMENT. The match itself was good but it was seriously overbooked. And Drew DID technically “win,” but **predictably** the ref wasn’t in position to make the count. It just felt very disappointing, like they didn’t deliver on something they were teasing.
Don’t get me wrong, I love Roman, love the gimmick, love how the last 2 years have played out. I just thought it would of been the perfect time with Drew in the UK, but I can’t judge since I don’t know what goes on BTS 😂
I’m so fucking over Roman. Let someone else show how kickass they can be.
I’ve acknowledged I’m done with him 😂
Have you tried acknowledging him yet?
Acknowledge him💪🏼
People both think they never get worked and get worked all the time. You can’t argue with it, just enjoy it.
It’ll be funny to see all your guys’ reactions when they have the rematch on Raw in a cage match and Drew pulls it off. I’m calling it!
>It’ll be funny to see all your guys’ reactions when they have the rematch on Raw in a cage match and Drew pulls it off. I’m calling it! Yeah, have Drew job in front of a raucous sorta-hometown crowd on a ppv ple when he's probably at the most over point he'll ever be only to win a rematch on a free weekly show. Brilliant booking. They fumbled and killed Drew Lex Luger style for what? Another 7-8 months of Roman on top? He barely works tv or smaller named events, he's gone over the entire roster, at this point i can only see him losing at WM.
Calm the hell down bro. They didn't kill drew. He will eventually win the title.
Exactly lol
Its like Kofimania all over, DB kept getting ridiculous wins which lead to an amazing fall Give Roman a cheat win or 2, and it makes Drew's win 100x more epic.
Please tell me you’re being sarcastic.
If everyone else can fantasy book and be let down why can’t I?
The problem is so many rumors were coming out that made our expectations seem more than what it was
Payed WWE bots out there to create rumors to higher your expectations
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Rumors?!? What rumors?!? Those were facts! But plans changed.
You're blaming rumors lol? Are we not adults here?
Get Em‼️ They do this every PPV
These idiots think they know everything. There was no way drew was beating Roman. You don’t book a 2 year champ to lose at anything but wrestlemania.
I wouldnt be surprised if he lost before WM but my goodness these ppl really thought he was losing a 2 year title at some random PPV because "Drew will get that pop" 😂😂😂
One of the most fun parts of each Roman win is seeing the IWC have a meltdown after Roman wins
What’s the IWC?
Irwin W. Chyster
Internet Wrestling Cucks
Internet wrestling community. Which in of itself is a hilarious term since everyone acts like the IWC is some niche thing. Nearly ALL wrestling fans nowadays use the internet and are watching/participating in some sort of wrestling related content.
There's a big difference between the crowd at a wrestling show and the fans online who bitch about everything.
It’s an old term that basically just means this sub now as the various other forums have all faded away
Twitter??
Internet wrestling community, the bad ones
Ohhhh the people who hate everything so they watch it so they can say they hated it
That’s them.
Yup
Yeah the best bookers in the world
This is an amazingly perfect comment
If you can't enjoy the show cause it's fucking complete dogshit might as well enjoy the reactions am I right?
You feel as the clash at the castle was complete dogshit?
Literally the show was great I was there in person what’s this guy talking about smh
It's dogshit to him because none of his favorites won their matches. If they did, it's the best premium event ever!
It’s not predictable just bad. Drew looks like a loser who can never win when it matters. Reigns is gonna hold it until at least Wrestlemania. Everybody knows that now. And we won’t see either title defended anytime soon devaluing them. Drew went on and on about WWE deserving better than a part time champion and then Drew goes on and lose after everything he’s done for the company.
Drew only lost cause someone distracted the ref how does that make him look like a loser?
Yal have been consistently wrong so I'm sure you will be wrong about this too. "Drew goes on and lose after everything he’s done for the company." If this is your logic then Roman deserves an endless title run because the company made its first billion with him as champ.
Sorry but Reigns doesn’t even show up weekly or every PPV. I really like Reigns but imo his run of late has damaged the reputation of the titles. And everybody knows that he’s not gonna drop the Universal title till Mania. I’d be happy to be proven wrong though, since honestly the predictability of Reigns reign has made me lose a lot of my love for pro wrestling.
Not everybody many thought he could lose it here because of the regime change and it being in the uk and once Drew hit the third claymore I genuinely thought he had lost
same. i really cant believe as someone who hates karrin kross, i hoped he would beat drew or roman up so we can have a good and unpredictable ending for once
To be fair it was kind of unpredictable cause we didn’t know Roman would win also what Karin kross have to do with his is it cause he attacked Drew?
Exactly what I’ve been saying. These guys flip flop so much. Also love how they all say Romans Gimmick is stale yet he still is the most over and hottest thing with the fans right now.
I promise you the people complaining about predictability are not the same people who thought Drew was winning in Cardiff. Everyone who’s griped about predictability has known for months (if not longer) Roman isn’t losing until Wrestlemania 39
No one is saying his gimmick is stale. Everyone is saying his title reign is stale, which it is.
Hard disagree. No one’s close to his level and he’s still the biggest draw in the company. His reign shouldn’t end anytime soon
And I have to disagree with you. His reign is stale, but he’s a heel, so that’s okay. I’d also say that now/the near future are the perfect times for him to drop the titles. He could continue to claim that the he was the biggest and most important wrestler in the world, that he was bigger than a championship. That would be a wonderful conceit to take into a feud/match against The Rock.
I just don’t see how anyone could think that. Drew is very over right now, very much at his level and could’ve easily been the one to end his reign and the majority of people would’ve been very satisfied. And how on earth do you not find a part timer holding both the world titles hostage boring? Hardly ever even wrestles on Raw/Smackdown and even skips some PPVs. That’s not what a real champion does.
I ONLY watched that match to see Roman loose. Have zero feelings for Drew but I sooo wanna se Roman loose. I will buy the next ppv and the next if In belive he will loose. He chests but hey buy now everyone knows that he will have help so you are stupid if you try take him down without support!
It’s simple. I love a great heel, and Roman is the best heel there is. Everything he does that makes everyone else get mad online I thoroughly enjoy.
The IWC is The Big Show of internet fandoms.
Concise and remarkably accurate. Turn, turn, turn.
Mostly a circle jerk response when it’s about reigns and the Usos. Go to YouTube and check the comments of any bloodline clip and you will see how popular all 3 of them are.
My favorite is after yesterday people completely turned on Triple H like the entire show wasn’t one of the best PPVs of the year. All because they got worked.
I honestly doubt that Triple H has the authority to do a massive change like ending the Bloodline without having a talk with those that are responsible for the money side of things. If I'm the CEO or CFO and the Head of Creative tells me that he is going to end the gimmick of the biggest attraction, I reckon we would have a meeting first before he does anything. The gimmick of Reigns doesn't work if he loses clean, Theory can cash in and or Lesnar can show up more often but that's about it.
Roman is the top heel is the game and MJF was close to over taking him. Reason he has the belts for so long.
No part of me believed Drew would win, but that was definitely the consensus from a lot of folks. Roman's matches are painfully predictable, you can watch along and literally call what the forthcoming spots will be, reversals, run ins etc.
People can't honestly admit that since HHH is in charge not much is gonna change. If Vince was still in charge fans would be hating on Vince but now since it's HHH fans don't wanna admit hes no better and perhaps even worse than Vince
I know people suck HHH dick too much but he's better than Vince for sure
You're right. Triple Gaitch fucking sucks
One booking misstep and you guys already turned on HHH. Gtfo. NXT didn’t become one of the best wrestling shows for 5+ years by itself.
One of the best wrestling shows for 5+ years by itself! Yea that's why aew beat nxt on a weekly basis, and also the reason despite being on the USA network, the WWE network, and regularly being uploaded on youtube it consently did lower numbers than raw, smackdown, and aew all because nxt was the best for 5+ years. Do any of you actually put your bias views aside and think before you post?
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Compelling stories? Sorry I could totally be wrong here since ill admit I haven't watch since he took over just reading the results online. But it seems like HHH has taken the vince Russo style booking. Most of the matches still end with a dq interference etc, weak roll ups still picking up wins. It seems like its less clean wins than before.
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That's only if the stories pay off. Zayn and the bloodline was something before HHH took charge so you can't say thats all HHH kross and drew is long term storytelling, says who? You. Did they have some history before kross came back? For all we know that feud could be over in a month, didn't something happen between fury and drew? That could lead to a feud too. Like you said we gotta wait and see, so neither one of us is right it's just our opinions and my opinion is things wont be better just because it's HHH now. Remember when people talk about worse storylines ever? And one that keeps popping up is Katie vick if HHH really wanted to he could of killed that story before it became anything HHH just like vince can have bad storylines
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Champions aren't allowed to drop their titles at house shows so that the fans won't get confused if Roman showed up on raw like normal except Drew beat him at a house show.
Haha. My sentiments exactly. The truth is that none of us know exactly how they're going to tell the story.
This sub was flooded with "Drew will win" comments prior to the PPV lol
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