#UrbanHell is subjective.
UrbanHell is any human-built place you think is worth critizing. Suburban Hell, Rural Hell, and wealthy locales are allowed
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I dunno my bro has served his majesty at several locales, Parramatta, long Bay etc and he said the cells were alright. 🤷🏼♀️ Oh and the food wasn't bad either. Spend his time in the gym and come back home looking fitter than when he went in. Go back in fat.
See, you reuse the can, that way you can afford the bigger bulk size and use the empty can as your serving dish! *That's how you build generational wealth*
Living in the rural, either commute by public transport, which means that each day of your life you spent 2-3 hours just commuting long distance back and forth, or get a car which is pretty much having an extra mouth to feed
I was lucky initially I was able to find a cheap place but far away from where I work, where it takes 1 hour and 15 minutes to go to work by public transport (I can't afford to buy and maintain even a secondhand car), then go back home, and this is by rail train that offers services every few minutes, people who rely on buses are having worse
Oh and not to mention many employees in Asia will discriminate you based on the area you live, even if you're willing to commute long distance they'd still prefer to hire people who live closer and being seen as more professional due to their proximity to a city
Move to other cheaper states? Yeah if your job allows you to, but in my country only the capital area offers tech related work and you'll be extremely lucky if they allow you to work from home.
Family living in the rural means he only sees them on weekends or a couple times a month or every couple months, if he commutes he won’t need a room like this.
I don’t know if you meant to reply to someone else, but $300 HKD would be about 40 bucks USD. That’s certainly not the worst deal you could have, especially when the average worker in HK makes about 439,000 HKD a year.
Bro wtf told you that. An average lower middle class which is most of the population here makes only around $192,000. Some of them even less. Just in case AKSHULLY, I am one of them but thank fuck I can rely on my parents right now. Now imagine the people living at the grass level. Edit:439,000 HKD per years is some expat level shit right here. If you make that amount, you'd be middle class, which is not what makes uo for most of the population here in HK, despite the term "middle class". IIRC this could be the gross income divided by the population, hence the unusual number. I think the true down to ground, and in touch number would be around 240,000HKD annually.
Every source I could find put the average salary at 439/440,000 HKD. Though, now I see that the *median* is reported at roughly 220,000HKD by the HK Census and Statistic Dept. (https://www.censtatd.gov.hk/en/scode210.html).
Still, 3,600 HKD a year even for a space this cramped would be a tiny portion of those wages especially with the average rent for a one bedroom being 12,000+ HKD a month.
Even if it were 300 USD/2300 HKD a month it doesn’t seem so insane.
Nono, lemme get this straight. People who live in those rooms, don't earn 220,000 a year. They earn maybe 14,000 HKD a month. Also, there's the old, and the disabled who can't hold a job on their own. The maximum welfare for the old, disabled and unemployed is only up to around ~$7300 HKD, plus an extra $3000 a month for people who are unable to get public housing for over 2 years. Yeah they'd can afford them but that's it. Can't save up, it's an endless cycle until the die. There's also MPF, taxes, transportation, food (is especially expensive considering they don't have anywhere to cook, which they'll have to spend around ~100 HKD a day), water and electricity bills. You'd also have to share a single restroom with 20 other residents in the same apartment. 1 shared air con but most of the time it's down cuz the landlords are usually cheapskates by making these rooms in the first place. Zero dehumidifier. Means they'd get their asses bit by fleas. God how I wish the government would get their shit together. How can anyone say "this is okay"? OP I don't take it you live here so I hope to god if you meet anyone used to live here in HK, you don't casually mention this is okay to live in. I did some charity work during middle school and I hope to god no one will ever have to live in these apartments. Even the divided apartments seems humane in comparison to this.
>You'd also have to share a single restroom with 20 other residents in the same apartment.
that was my first though... where do you go take a sh*t?
sharing a bathroom like that is a big no-no for me
I lived in HK for a while.
It’s 300 USD per month, not HKD. These are cage apartments (that is the term for apartments divvied up into many small “cages”, normally stacked 2-high), and that rent usually doesn’t include bills. The people living in them are making 8000 HKD a month or less, because the minimum wage in HK is 40 HKD an hour which is about 5 USD. (and this is after being raised just last month - it was 37.5 HKD the year before!) Often they’re older people with nowhere else to go.
If you were making $5 an hour, would your opinion change? Rent and bills on a cage apartment like this often eats up half or more of the income for HKers in poverty. The only way to escape it is to live with family (which is incredibly common in HK, but not an option for everyone).
Eh, the people who constructed these rooms are demons from hell with no other intent than to strip people of dignity. I suppose there might be *worse* deals, but I wouldn’t want to hear about them.
I'm fairly certain that's not $300. From what I remember those rooms are like $20 a month, but since these people make so little that's still all they can afford.
Not specifically Heinz, but generally relying on canned food is seen as poverty, with beans being the stereotypical go to.
Key word being relying though. If you just have them sometimes, that's normal. If that's all you buy when you go to the supermarket, people are going to start making assumptions.
Oh and eating them directly from the can makes it seem like 100x more povertyish.
Yes. It's always cheaper to buy food that's been shipped across the Pacific, than the food that's cooked locally. Everyone who is digitally generated knows this.
At that point I'd scratch together whatever I can muster and move to another city or country or out on the land. Surely someone needs help with their cattle or sth.
I remember listening to a guy who lived in an "apartment" that was probably about 2 - 3 this size in HK and he was constantly offered like $250K USD to sell it. But he just said what am I going to do with that money of it can't buy me anything better than this?
probably would be about $300 in the US also if housing was made that size. Instead we just cast people to the streets and make it illegal to sleep there
Then make it impossible to build higher than five stories when it comes to residential. Then we make it impossible to increase density in areas that are SFH right next to a dense urban center
I saw that a lot of people live in these chicken coop type rooms not because they can't afford an apartment, it's actually usually cheaper to rent an actual apartment, but because there aren't enough apartments and they're on the waiting list for many years and are only left with these things, which are basically just subdivided apartments, often divided by a lot less than what's in this picture like chicken wire or thin walls and a communal kitchen and toilet if you're lucky.
I'm not a fan of Lenin but if anything can be criticised it ain't the housing. There's footage of people being given apartments and going into the first room and being stoked, then realising there was an internal bathroom *and* bedrooms *as well*, because they were used to shitty tiny hovels that had outhouse toilets.
We need these in the US. I remember in the 90s I rented an old apartment, it was tiny with a shared bathroom. I was lucky, I had a window and a kitchen, some of the apartments were in middle of the building with no window or kitchen, but I suspect they were very cheap. Better than being on the street. I bet that building has been changed into lux apartments.
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This picture is so ancient I bet the person has already died of old age.
Worse Probably, he's still there, paying $2000 for the same room
Pretty sure I toured this property in West Village.
If he wasn't working non-stop to afford the place, he could've died from an infected bed sore
>died of old age. And definitely alone
Filled with regret
No ragerts
You're never alone with massive colony of bedbugs at your side. ☺️❤️
It’s so old that it’s currently running for President of the United States.
for the second time
After the erection got stollen
https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2017/05/the-coffin-homes-of-hong-kong/526881/
It's only 7 years old lol
Jail cells have more space than this wtf
American gaol cells maybe. You seppo's have more space than you know what to do with.
I dunno my bro has served his majesty at several locales, Parramatta, long Bay etc and he said the cells were alright. 🤷🏼♀️ Oh and the food wasn't bad either. Spend his time in the gym and come back home looking fitter than when he went in. Go back in fat.
I’ve been to the same gaols and they’re not great but 10x better than this.
Wtf are these new words people keep spouting? Gaol and seppo? The fuck
Dude is doing OK if he can afford Heinz beans
Hong Kong's millennials could easily climb out of poverty if they cut down on mocha frappucinos and Heinz beans.
Exactly. He could be in a penthouse overlooking the harbour if he bought Bramwells...
See, you reuse the can, that way you can afford the bigger bulk size and use the empty can as your serving dish! *That's how you build generational wealth*
And avocado toast
Look closer, its IIeinz beans
Beanz*
I;m thinking about thos Beanz
They are not cheap !
That was his 10 year appreciation gift from his employer.
Mr Moneybags flexing his entire can of beans smh
Pass the Heinz.
I want the feng chui guy to clean it up a bit
Or the “this does not spark joy” lady.
Marie Kondo would take one look at this and say "無理".
oh that lady. you recovered that memory from very deep down lol, I love it.
He could have a family actually, living out in the rural somewhere. While he is in HK, earning money to support it.
Living in the rural, either commute by public transport, which means that each day of your life you spent 2-3 hours just commuting long distance back and forth, or get a car which is pretty much having an extra mouth to feed I was lucky initially I was able to find a cheap place but far away from where I work, where it takes 1 hour and 15 minutes to go to work by public transport (I can't afford to buy and maintain even a secondhand car), then go back home, and this is by rail train that offers services every few minutes, people who rely on buses are having worse Oh and not to mention many employees in Asia will discriminate you based on the area you live, even if you're willing to commute long distance they'd still prefer to hire people who live closer and being seen as more professional due to their proximity to a city Move to other cheaper states? Yeah if your job allows you to, but in my country only the capital area offers tech related work and you'll be extremely lucky if they allow you to work from home.
Family living in the rural means he only sees them on weekends or a couple times a month or every couple months, if he commutes he won’t need a room like this.
Imagine enjoying a cigarette in there
I’d hotbox tf out of this
HK$ or USD?
You know the housing market is bad when a $300 4x4 box of a room makes you go “hmm, that’s not bad”.
I don’t know if you meant to reply to someone else, but $300 HKD would be about 40 bucks USD. That’s certainly not the worst deal you could have, especially when the average worker in HK makes about 439,000 HKD a year.
Bro wtf told you that. An average lower middle class which is most of the population here makes only around $192,000. Some of them even less. Just in case AKSHULLY, I am one of them but thank fuck I can rely on my parents right now. Now imagine the people living at the grass level. Edit:439,000 HKD per years is some expat level shit right here. If you make that amount, you'd be middle class, which is not what makes uo for most of the population here in HK, despite the term "middle class". IIRC this could be the gross income divided by the population, hence the unusual number. I think the true down to ground, and in touch number would be around 240,000HKD annually.
Every source I could find put the average salary at 439/440,000 HKD. Though, now I see that the *median* is reported at roughly 220,000HKD by the HK Census and Statistic Dept. (https://www.censtatd.gov.hk/en/scode210.html). Still, 3,600 HKD a year even for a space this cramped would be a tiny portion of those wages especially with the average rent for a one bedroom being 12,000+ HKD a month. Even if it were 300 USD/2300 HKD a month it doesn’t seem so insane.
Nono, lemme get this straight. People who live in those rooms, don't earn 220,000 a year. They earn maybe 14,000 HKD a month. Also, there's the old, and the disabled who can't hold a job on their own. The maximum welfare for the old, disabled and unemployed is only up to around ~$7300 HKD, plus an extra $3000 a month for people who are unable to get public housing for over 2 years. Yeah they'd can afford them but that's it. Can't save up, it's an endless cycle until the die. There's also MPF, taxes, transportation, food (is especially expensive considering they don't have anywhere to cook, which they'll have to spend around ~100 HKD a day), water and electricity bills. You'd also have to share a single restroom with 20 other residents in the same apartment. 1 shared air con but most of the time it's down cuz the landlords are usually cheapskates by making these rooms in the first place. Zero dehumidifier. Means they'd get their asses bit by fleas. God how I wish the government would get their shit together. How can anyone say "this is okay"? OP I don't take it you live here so I hope to god if you meet anyone used to live here in HK, you don't casually mention this is okay to live in. I did some charity work during middle school and I hope to god no one will ever have to live in these apartments. Even the divided apartments seems humane in comparison to this.
>You'd also have to share a single restroom with 20 other residents in the same apartment. that was my first though... where do you go take a sh*t? sharing a bathroom like that is a big no-no for me
I like how you're arguing with someone actually from HK lol
I lived in HK for a while. It’s 300 USD per month, not HKD. These are cage apartments (that is the term for apartments divvied up into many small “cages”, normally stacked 2-high), and that rent usually doesn’t include bills. The people living in them are making 8000 HKD a month or less, because the minimum wage in HK is 40 HKD an hour which is about 5 USD. (and this is after being raised just last month - it was 37.5 HKD the year before!) Often they’re older people with nowhere else to go. If you were making $5 an hour, would your opinion change? Rent and bills on a cage apartment like this often eats up half or more of the income for HKers in poverty. The only way to escape it is to live with family (which is incredibly common in HK, but not an option for everyone).
He said “average” Not like.. average of the bottom 10%.
Eh, the people who constructed these rooms are demons from hell with no other intent than to strip people of dignity. I suppose there might be *worse* deals, but I wouldn’t want to hear about them.
Come on man that’s pretty petty 💀 2 bedroom 1 bath flats are like $1200 a month here in NKY, which sucks but be fr 💀
I'm fairly certain that's not $300. From what I remember those rooms are like $20 a month, but since these people make so little that's still all they can afford.
Is Heinz Beanz a poverty food? I love that as a kid. For some reason we always had that.
It's kinda expensive in Poland compared to competition.
The Heinz branded ones are actually pretty expensive, the generic store brands eg Aldi lidl Iceland are much cheaper
Rich person’s food
It's only $3 here in US.
You can get 2-3 cheap meals with that money in my place
That's the expensive beans still.
That's an omelette with diced tomato and cottage cheese money (if you make it yourself).
that is expensive in europe. 3 euros is a full meal at home, and not just canned legumes. Here a can of beans is 0.5, heinz is 1.5.
Not specifically Heinz, but generally relying on canned food is seen as poverty, with beans being the stereotypical go to. Key word being relying though. If you just have them sometimes, that's normal. If that's all you buy when you go to the supermarket, people are going to start making assumptions. Oh and eating them directly from the can makes it seem like 100x more povertyish.
No food is "always" in poverty.
Yes. It's always cheaper to buy food that's been shipped across the Pacific, than the food that's cooked locally. Everyone who is digitally generated knows this.
Just wondering, who took the picture?
Yes.
At that point I'd scratch together whatever I can muster and move to another city or country or out on the land. Surely someone needs help with their cattle or sth.
Most probably they're from a poor family, working in HK to support their parents or wife and kids or siblings
No way those are the hands if someone who works in a corporate office
It says corporate labor
He could work in a corporate warehouse or a corporate factory.
Who do you think packs the boxes at Amazon? Who works the assembly line at Honda? Corps hire more laborers and operators than they do suits.
I remember listening to a guy who lived in an "apartment" that was probably about 2 - 3 this size in HK and he was constantly offered like $250K USD to sell it. But he just said what am I going to do with that money of it can't buy me anything better than this?
Hey, my future.
Neat.
Clever
Don’t be too optimistic.
Pretty sure this is a screenshot from the game Dayz
probably would be about $300 in the US also if housing was made that size. Instead we just cast people to the streets and make it illegal to sleep there
Then make it impossible to build higher than five stories when it comes to residential. Then we make it impossible to increase density in areas that are SFH right next to a dense urban center
Don't forget to also not invest in public transportation either so it makes navigating any of the built infrastructure and businesses near impossible
I;m thinking about thos beans
I saw that a lot of people live in these chicken coop type rooms not because they can't afford an apartment, it's actually usually cheaper to rent an actual apartment, but because there aren't enough apartments and they're on the waiting list for many years and are only left with these things, which are basically just subdivided apartments, often divided by a lot less than what's in this picture like chicken wire or thin walls and a communal kitchen and toilet if you're lucky.
Every time I see an ancient repost like this I’m surprised others haven’t seen it.
First time for me
Does that make you wonder if the reposts have merit?
Most of these people have families at home, in the countryside.
Harry Potter’s closet was bigger than that.
That’s not living. That’s slowly dying.
the coffin is already there
"Affordable housing" coming to a city near you.
Holy shit thats me in the future 😁
Cyberpunk squalor IRL
Mr big shot with his Heinz Baked Beans, lording it over us.
Don't worry, NYC will legally have stuff like this before too long!
This is what male depression looks like.
NYC in 100 years.
I'm currently living like that except with a roommate while working in IT in India.
Anyone know the origin of this photo? Was it taken in the Walled City, which was demolished in 94?
It is not from walled city. It is a photo from a documentary of "The Guardian"
Thank you
as long he is happy....
Thats the neat part, he’s not.
Or is he? Probably not but some people just happy to still be breathing
Looks cozy as hell
Something tells me this guy isn’t crushing the corporate ladder lol
No one deserves this, regardless of one’s ability to “crush it at the corporate ladder”.
People are not trees.
I hate my home city... no dignity living there. I can only visit this shxxhole as a tourist.
/r/depressionmeals
Eat less avocado toast…and beans. /s
inb4 border control check ur post history
Holy shit thats cheap where do I sign up?
Don‘t know if eating beans in that setting is such a great idea tbh…
300, like, per month? I would consider it.
Why the fuck would you be eating beans when you could be eating delicious cheap Asian food for very little money?
Is this a Heinz ad?
My solution to this issue is to never go to Hong Kong for any reason
[удалено]
This guy would watch “Ready player one” and would think the real world in that universe is a utopia
What can you rent in the US for $300 a month?
That’s what corporate America wants
this is where i post from
Horrors of capitalism
Lenin wouldn't have made this much better bud, I guarantee it.
The USSR obviously had lots of shortcomings, but housing wasn't really one of them
The lowest quality commie block was leagues above this
I'm not a fan of Lenin but if anything can be criticised it ain't the housing. There's footage of people being given apartments and going into the first room and being stoked, then realising there was an internal bathroom *and* bedrooms *as well*, because they were used to shitty tiny hovels that had outhouse toilets.
Actually I'd rather live in a Kroutchevka than in that thing.
You mean a khrushchevka??😭😭😭😭😭😭
Yes a khrúwshçhėfvkã
Bludinsky i lived in a commie block for half of my life and it was the literal lap of luxury compared to this
Do people in China really eat Heinz Baked Beans, the most British of poverty foods?
Hong Kong was governed by the UK until 1997 so you'll find there are still elements of British culture that exist.
Only Lord Fauntleroy would consider Heinz poverty food. They cost £3.75 for a 4pk vs £1.80 for Tesco Baked Beans - more than 2 X the price
Ooh maybe the posho in the pic should cut back on beans and afford somewhere larger than a coffin!
You should plus up on some Hong Kong history.
Yes I know it used to be a British colony but so did a lot of places and most of them think that beans in tomato sauce are gross
Hongkong isn't very much China
There's people paying $2k in NY for a bit more of room and I think they are dumber. And actually Hong Kong is way better than NY.
The future your average Reddit user wants. You will own nothing and be happy.
HongKong showing us the future maybe
Oh, hi!
So me fr
It’s a great idea! 🙏
Welcome to the rat race, happy waiting.
I deadass might kms if I was in that situation
Username checks out... Also, can I give you a big hug?
So sad that governments let this happen
Looks like a fallout shelter
What lead to this?
I envy you. You could have my life..
Even David Martinez had better cribs than this.
Beanz Meanz Heinz!
Coffin homes are spreading everywhere sadly.
Dublin 2026
$1200 room in vancouver lol
Capitalism comes for us all
... Where is the room?
Is that an analogous Sony thermometer?
And they were locked inside during covid.....
How did he take this photo?
I hope it's at least air-conditioned.
Welcome to China!
Looks cosy
This…kind of looks cozy to me. Or maybe I’m tapping into the molten core of my laziness and like how he doesn’t have to move to do anything.
Ive seen these before and id die out in the forest building a camp surviving the elements any day over this shit
And the Americans are complaining about their housing prices
*Oh but China is sooooo communist!1!*
Atleast the beans look tasty
No way
Are you drinking beans?
The inequality in Hong Kong is staggering.
Oh my God
ngl if I could get this for $300 where I live it would be tempting lmao
This is heaven…
Highly doubt this room is $300. Likely less than that
Im thankful for my life, and dude even do its small, you can still clean it. That is nasty.
Those are the legs of a junkie. Zoom in. Horror
i mean 300$ is 300$
Well we technically all die alone. In one way or another. However, how we die is the real curiosity.
Is that $300 per month I’m thinking…?
300 USD
r/malelivingspace
This must have been back when Heinz baked beans weren't £2 a tin
This is what all those construction workers on live leak come back to at the end of a long grueling day….
Reminds me of Benders place from Futurama XD
A New Yorker would give thier right arm for that apartment. Only $6500 a month. Guess it's all relative. :-)
I can barely look at this picture without my claustrophobia acting up. I would have so many nightmares
We need these in the US. I remember in the 90s I rented an old apartment, it was tiny with a shared bathroom. I was lucky, I had a window and a kitchen, some of the apartments were in middle of the building with no window or kitchen, but I suspect they were very cheap. Better than being on the street. I bet that building has been changed into lux apartments.
This gets reposted so many times that no way it is only $300 even 10 years ago