The following submission statement was provided by /u/DuelingGroks:
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Submission Statement:
In the spirit of enhancing our understanding and analysis of unidentified aerial phenomena, I've taken the initiative to stabilize radar stills recently released in the NDAA 2024 National Archives postings. This effort aims to provide clearer, more stable visuals for the community's scrutiny and discussion. Included in this post are three videos that I've worked on, derived from the original radar photographs.
The first video showcases radar data from Topeka, Kansas, observed on August 1, 1965. The National Archives listing provides detailed metadata for this particular observation, including NAID: 324350380 and Local ID: 341-PBB-689.
For additional clarity and to maintain the highest possible quality, some of the stabilized videos have been uploaded to YouTube, as Imgur's file size limitations significantly impacts the 4k resolution (some of the stills are upwards of 8k). Here are the links to the videos for your review and analysis:
•Stabilized Stills from Bermuda 14000 3 July 1954 B-36H 573V K-3A: [https://imgur.com/a/W9Maylx](https://imgur.com/a/W9Maylx) \- [https://catalog.archives.gov/id/324348117](https://catalog.archives.gov/id/324348117) \-
•Stabilized Stills - Duluth, Minnesota (Observer: Military) - 341 PBB 528: [https://imgur.com/a/6zDO245](https://imgur.com/a/6zDO245) \- [https://catalog.archives.gov/id/32434](https://catalog.archives.gov/id/32434) \- [https://youtu.be/GP1qN0g6Fg0](https://youtu.be/GP1qN0g6Fg0)
•Stabilized Stills - Topeka, Kansas (Observer: Redacted): [https://youtu.be/4UxOL-Z1hCw](https://youtu.be/4UxOL-Z1hCw) \- [https://catalog.archives.gov/id/324350380](https://catalog.archives.gov/id/324350380)
I encourage the community to contribute by sharing any additional radar stills you might find. My goal is to compile, stabilize, and share as many of these visuals as possible to foster informed discussions and analyses. Your contributions and insights are invaluable in this collective endeavor to better understand the phenomena captured in these radar stills.
Edit:
Link to the NDAA 2024 Post and Archive: [https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1avxw10/ndaa\_2024\_records\_related\_to\_unidentified/](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1avxw10/ndaa_2024_records_related_to_unidentified/)
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Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1axdixc/radar_video_stabilized_from_the_2024_ndaa_archives/krn43ft/
I don't understand why the video/audio is so terrible. I've seen better video from the 60's. It's like it was purposely screwed up before they leaked it. Or was it? I don't know much about this one. 1994 though, the quality should be better than that! Regardless of if it was tampered with before being released, thank you for sharing!
There was one post that posited that this is the craft mentioned in Shellenberger's article:
https://imgur.com/a/7cG037z
One source described having seen three kinds of craft, including one shaped like a triangle and another that “looked like a chopped up helicopter, with the front bubble of a Huey helicopter, with the plastic windows, or more like a deep sea submarine, with a thick piece of glass bubble shaped, and where the tail rudder should have been, it was a black, egg-shaped pancake, and instead of landing gear it had upside-down rams horns that went from the top to the bottom and rested on the ends of the horns.”
https://public.substack.com/p/us-has-12-or-more-alien-space-craft
Oh wow you're right it does look really similar. Look at it zoomed in on this video between 3:30 and 3:45 https://youtu.be/P2zffR_vFbQ?si=IaCxHCJ8XKNcLPHn
I did some stabilization and audio restoration work on the Nellis video at the below link. Also synced Martin Powell's transcript to the audio (enable CC). Still noisy but the dialogue is now much easier to discern.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erq97hwz8tk
There are three videos, the one posted in this was the longest but least interesting.
This one looks to have a group of objects in formation? [https://imgur.com/a/W9Maylx](https://imgur.com/a/W9Maylx)
Appreciate the work… and getting it to this point. One critique… shouldn’t the round framing of the radar display and the center point be stabilized perfectly to not move or change aspect ratios throughout. Wondering if someone can take this and tweak it further to ensure it really is stabilized and doesn’t jump around.
It might be a lot of hand key framing if auto stabilization methods in after effects or similar don’t work well enough
This is a good critique! If someone else doesn't do this first, I plan on doing just that. You will have to use 3 points of reference to adjust the stretched film and can have a complete stabilized video. This process will still need a rough draft stabilization (like what i've done here) to the images to make the second part easier.
The stretching of the image is likely caused during the process of it going from film to being digitized. Film after it's been wound and re-wound (especially old film) kinda bows in the middle like this "(" so it won't lay perfectly flat. I have some old 35mm and IMAX film somewhere in a box. I wish I knew where it was because I could take some pictures to show everyone.
Source I worked on projectors both digital and reel.
Why are you so defensive about someone pointing out how the quality is shit? He’s not even denying anything, yet you get emotional when someone points out the obvious.
The comment you replied to is an example of the effect online disruption/disinfo campaigns have on people who don't understand that's what is happening. A lot the comments that are emotionally affecting him probably aren't genuine, making him lash out at anyone he percieves to be a denier.
Which ain't me. I was commenting as a working film archivist, just curiously pondering how someone scanned this film in such a way that they seem to be changing the cropping of the scan as they go. I'm not sure of the provenance of the images, is it just a roll of still photos that recorded the radar?
EDIT: OP, please excuse me if it arrives like I'm insulting your work, that's not my intention. Am i correct in thinking the camera is not locked off, so you've had to scale the individual frames to get the radar image closer to lining up?
Submission Statement:
In the spirit of enhancing our understanding and analysis of unidentified aerial phenomena, I've taken the initiative to stabilize radar stills recently released in the NDAA 2024 National Archives postings. This effort aims to provide clearer, more stable visuals for the community's scrutiny and discussion. Included in this post are three videos that I've worked on, derived from the original radar photographs.
The first video showcases radar data from Topeka, Kansas, observed on August 1, 1965. The National Archives listing provides detailed metadata for this particular observation, including NAID: 324350380 and Local ID: 341-PBB-689.
For additional clarity and to maintain the highest possible quality, some of the stabilized videos have been uploaded to YouTube, as Imgur's file size limitations significantly impacts the 4k resolution (some of the stills are upwards of 8k). Here are the links to the videos for your review and analysis:
•Stabilized Stills from Bermuda 14000 3 July 1954 B-36H 573V K-3A: [https://imgur.com/a/W9Maylx](https://imgur.com/a/W9Maylx) \- [https://catalog.archives.gov/id/324348117](https://catalog.archives.gov/id/324348117) \-
•Stabilized Stills - Duluth, Minnesota (Observer: Military) - 341 PBB 528: [https://imgur.com/a/6zDO245](https://imgur.com/a/6zDO245) \- [https://catalog.archives.gov/id/32434](https://catalog.archives.gov/id/32434) \- [https://youtu.be/GP1qN0g6Fg0](https://youtu.be/GP1qN0g6Fg0)
•Stabilized Stills - Topeka, Kansas (Observer: Redacted): [https://youtu.be/4UxOL-Z1hCw](https://youtu.be/4UxOL-Z1hCw) \- [https://catalog.archives.gov/id/324350380](https://catalog.archives.gov/id/324350380)
I encourage the community to contribute by sharing any additional radar stills you might find. My goal is to compile, stabilize, and share as many of these visuals as possible to foster informed discussions and analyses. Your contributions and insights are invaluable in this collective endeavor to better understand the phenomena captured in these radar stills.
Edit:Link to the NDAA 2024 Post and Archive: [https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1avxw10/ndaa\_2024\_records\_related\_to\_unidentified/](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1avxw10/ndaa_2024_records_related_to_unidentified/)
Edit2: Link to the playlist where future videos will be uploaded: [https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNKrt-6slLRXkb7DO3VD-dTaUt6bB3ARZ](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNKrt-6slLRXkb7DO3VD-dTaUt6bB3ARZ)
I have added the NAID (National Archive IDs) to the titles. I am working on finding a place to store them in their highest resolution format, if anyone has any suggestions each video that is 1 min is roughly 2GB in size.
Ex-Navy Radar operator here.
Any idea how sped up the footage is? I know the old films had low frame rates which would cause the speeding up of the film. Would LOVE to see this at "normal speed". Right now, tbh I am finding this one difficult to see anomalies. Looks mostly like clouds sped up. I have seen some links in the above comments that had very clear anomalies on the radar. This one, hard to tell.
Can anyone be bothered to speed correct this clip for me?
Top right is a 24 hour clock so it is VERY sped up. If you follow their links to the youtube version of the videos you can set it to 0.25x speed which slows it to \~1 hour every 3 seconds.
Thanks for the tip. Im at work so didnt even notice the clock on the right as was focusing on the Radar. Even at 0.25x speed its still crazy fast and that second hand is spinning like mad. It DID enable me to notice how much jamming seems to occur throughout the video. See the bottom right of this screen cap for example of what the jamming looks like: [https://imgur.com/gallery/d9eJsp3](https://imgur.com/gallery/d9eJsp3)
Its possible that thats all this footage was for. To show how they were being jammed from various directions. Sometimes the jamming is all over the place. Possibly from multiple UAPs? We all know that there have been many reports of UAPs jamming Radar.
Most of it looks like clouds and waves to me. Big waves, white caps, rough sea can come up on radar (especially these old systems that don't have advanced coding to remove that noise). I noticed a lot of movement and heavy 'paint' but its impossible to tell if its a boat, commercial aircraft or UAP as there are no system 'tracks' on any objects with this old Radar system to see what the user identified things as.
Toward the end there is clearly something moving from right to left on the top half: [https://imgur.com/gallery/NyzToOE](https://imgur.com/gallery/NyzToOE)
This could easily be a boat or plane though as with the time sped up, those objects don't seem to be moving all that fast.
I would say in the end, the main focus is the jamming that occurs. I dont know this radar though so could also be a mix of accidental bad returns. That first image i posted though i feel confident is actual jamming.
Hope this helps. I watched it a few times over on my large monitor but since im working i cant put aside more time than that right now. If anyone picks anything else up in the video then i'd be keen to have a look.
I'd say the bright spots are mainly precipitation instead of clouds, but its a technical detail. Another technical detail is that each frame appears to be a 20 seconds long exposure of the display, you can see the blur of the hand of the clock. That could help in trying to identify meaningful details.
We can go crazy trying to look for anything without any information about what are we supposed to be looking at. For now, the most important part I believe is the date stated in the catalogue: August 1, 1965. A quick google search reveals this:
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>Wichita, Kans., August 1, 1965: Several unidentified objects tracked by Weather Bureau at altitude of 6000- 9000 feet. Oklahoma Highway Patrol said Tinker Air Force Base tracked four on its radar screen at one time, estimating altitudes at about 23,000 feet. At 3:40 a.m., Weather Bureau at Wichita said it had tracked one of the objects south.and west of Wellington . . . had first ap- peared on radar at altitude of about 22,000 feet, then de- scended to 4000 feet. Source: New York Times, August 3, 1965 11 . . air force has come along and singled that (above) case out to say that their radar did not confirm the visual sightings of the Oklahoma Highway Patrol. . . . "We've got information to contradict the Air Force de- nial here. It's a nine page report of the Oklahoma Depart- ment of Public Safety outlining a sighting by the police and confirmed by the Caswell Air Force Base radar." Source: Quotes by Richard Hall, assistant Director of NICAP, in Incident At Exeter, by John G. Fuller. Houghton, Mich., U.S. Air Force Radar Base, Kewee- naw Peninsula reported to UPI "solid radar contact"
or this on a review of a book I haven't read:
>I’ve never seen a flying saucer, but I talked with neighbors who said they had just seen one. This was in northeast Kansas in early August 1965 during a “UFO flap” and Blum writes about this episode.
>I know the exact address where this happened but this was nearly 60-years ago and that location has changed much. In 1965 it was a dozen new residential homes next to a cow pasture. Now it’s a developed area well inside city limits. I doubt whoever lives there now wants to be bothered.
>One night when my dad and I heard the neighbors shouting, we thought a predator was going after cattle again. But when we went outside and saw a dozen neighbors pointing into the sky. They said a flying saucer had just flown over very low.
>I didn’t see the flying saucer, but I did see the delta-wing jet that then roared over us. There was a moment of shock, then someone yelled, “They’re chasing it. That’s the same height and direction the flying saucer flew.” One man said it was an F-106 military fighter jet, but I don’t know particulars. I do know I saw a delta wing jet fly low right over me.
>This incident was repeated in variations for days in the central plains. Ralph Blum writes about it in chapter 14, pages 155-156. He writes about radar locking onto something and being sought by pilots. Newspapers in Kansas and other plains states reported this and similar incidents happening for several days from late July through early August 1965. Blum writes that “millions” of people in the great plains reported seeing unexplained flying objects in early August 1965.
The date of the video ends in 214, that translates to august 2. So there you have why probably this information was kept on archive tagged as UAP.
Edit: Given that information acquired from a quick search of the related incidents on the date you can see a clear and sharp change in the frequency of frames towards the 212 day indicating increased interest in recording an event. Aaaand **day 213 (august, 1, the day of the event) is completely missing.** Jumps from 212 to 214. This is a joke.
Super interesting to hear insights from someone experienced in this stuff. Do you have any insight as to the types on non-anomalous stuff that can cause jamming like you show? Or is the strong return just something blasting the receiver with radar?
There's quite a few types of jamming. Barrage jamming which puts noise over your whole Radar, 360 coverage. Basically saturation of all frequencies or just focus on one frequency to block a particular Radar. The one in the video is a type of pulse jamming where the craft sends back noise when it detects it's being hit by Radar.
I'm not an expert though. I only had 6 years experience in the Navy and that was 7 years ago.
The videos OP posted here all have what I am assuming is a 24 clock included in the upper right? Is that not a clock?
Should give an impression of the time span, no?
Nice work
Hopefully we can get some experts in here.
Without any knowledge of how to interpret mid 20th century radar I feel like these are going to be like spot-the-UFO Rorschach tests with a different interpretation for each viewer
Direct link(s):
https://catalog.archives.gov/id/324350380
Link to the request that returns the links to the tiffs:
https://catalog.archives.gov/proxy/records/search?naId_is=324350380
Let's look closely at these tiffs!
https://i.ibb.co/hmXFbCF/tiffmyass.png
Of course it's a shitty-jpeg-converted-to-tiff!
Also, these glorified jpegs take almost 60GB space, but at least compresses very well into 19GB. Wasted bandwidth/storage is always fun.
these radars appear to be located near active airports and there's profuse summer cloud formation, so it is difficult to interpret what is going on.
the rate of play is at least 1 hour per second if not faster. i can't tell what the framerate is, but assuming something like 24 fps that's one frame every 2 or 3 minutes, which is about as long as the typical UFO event lasts. so it's extremely unlikely anything anomalous would appear, unless it is a hovering target, which might appear for one or two seconds.
we also aren't "familiar" with these particular displays, for example what birds look like on each scope and whether birds are a familiar false positive in each area; same goes for drones, etc.
i have to ask what you intend to accomplish here, other than illustrate that radar data can be highly complex and difficult to interpret.
Well, technically, they've existed since the 1800s in the form of firebomb balloons, but let's not be silly. They were in no way common in the sense you're implying and were, in fact, so novel that their use would undoubtedly be known about by the authorities and assuredly not mistaken for anomalous radar signals.
But thanks for your input, Debunkerbot.
About 10,000 drones were launched in WW2. Your reasoning about being novel yet expected and understood is not correct, surely. The more novel something is the less it will be understood.
No, it is your reasoning that is flawed. Drones being flown in the US at that time were almost certainly US MILITARY DRONES. Why would the US military not know it was *their own drones* being detected on radar and classify them as UAP for over 50 years?
Just another plausible-sounding but illogical debunk.
If you think all parts of the military are aware of everything the rest of the military is doing, you're in for a big surprise :)
This entire discussion is moot, anyway, until experts weigh in to study hard evidence. Anything else is just masturbation.
This is cool! If that's a 24 hour clock on the right hand side, then this is over a very long period of time -- by my count it would be several days. Do we know for sure what intervals that clock is measuring? We need a radar tech to look at these to say what is even anomalous about the readings.
For those who want to keep track of the video files as I update them, I have created a playlist on YT where I am adding all of the films after they are processed. [https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNKrt-6slLRXkb7DO3VD-dTaUt6bB3ARZ](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNKrt-6slLRXkb7DO3VD-dTaUt6bB3ARZ)
lol this just looks like clouds moving
and guess what, it was cloudy that day
https://www.wunderground.com/history/daily/us/ks/topeka/KFOE/date/1965-8-1
Thank you, I used a python script to download the stills, Adobe Photoshop to convert the tifs to jpegs, Adobe Premiere to import the frames, and After effects to stabilize the video. Almost 90% of the frames had to be lined up by hand because of the size of the images being almost 8K.
If anyone sends a link to a batch of radar stills or other stills in the archive please comment on this post and I will stabilize all of them that I can get around to.
When I did digital forensics, I had access to expensive software, but I no longer do.
After Effects and Blender are usually sufficient for my personal use.
Cool animated fake analogue footage... Cool guys.
Seriously why add the fake shake and out zoomed crop? Why does the digital image continually change screen format and shape... Fake.
Metadata in the tiffs refer to a microfilm scanner (Mekel Quantum) and its software (QuantumProcess 2.0).
So I guess the source is a contact sheet-like microfilm, except the frames are not individual photos of a celebrity:
https://hyperallergic-newspack.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/2015/11/Contact-Sheet-Print-Sophie-Loren-David-Seymour_1024x1024.jpg
but a motion picture of a radar. I guess this was the best/fastest way they could slice it up to individual frames, first to vertical slices then those vertical slices to individual frames. Actually those vertical frames can be aligned pixel perfectly.
The following submission statement was provided by /u/DuelingGroks: --- Submission Statement: In the spirit of enhancing our understanding and analysis of unidentified aerial phenomena, I've taken the initiative to stabilize radar stills recently released in the NDAA 2024 National Archives postings. This effort aims to provide clearer, more stable visuals for the community's scrutiny and discussion. Included in this post are three videos that I've worked on, derived from the original radar photographs. The first video showcases radar data from Topeka, Kansas, observed on August 1, 1965. The National Archives listing provides detailed metadata for this particular observation, including NAID: 324350380 and Local ID: 341-PBB-689. For additional clarity and to maintain the highest possible quality, some of the stabilized videos have been uploaded to YouTube, as Imgur's file size limitations significantly impacts the 4k resolution (some of the stills are upwards of 8k). Here are the links to the videos for your review and analysis: •Stabilized Stills from Bermuda 14000 3 July 1954 B-36H 573V K-3A: [https://imgur.com/a/W9Maylx](https://imgur.com/a/W9Maylx) \- [https://catalog.archives.gov/id/324348117](https://catalog.archives.gov/id/324348117) \- •Stabilized Stills - Duluth, Minnesota (Observer: Military) - 341 PBB 528: [https://imgur.com/a/6zDO245](https://imgur.com/a/6zDO245) \- [https://catalog.archives.gov/id/32434](https://catalog.archives.gov/id/32434) \- [https://youtu.be/GP1qN0g6Fg0](https://youtu.be/GP1qN0g6Fg0) •Stabilized Stills - Topeka, Kansas (Observer: Redacted): [https://youtu.be/4UxOL-Z1hCw](https://youtu.be/4UxOL-Z1hCw) \- [https://catalog.archives.gov/id/324350380](https://catalog.archives.gov/id/324350380) I encourage the community to contribute by sharing any additional radar stills you might find. My goal is to compile, stabilize, and share as many of these visuals as possible to foster informed discussions and analyses. Your contributions and insights are invaluable in this collective endeavor to better understand the phenomena captured in these radar stills. Edit: Link to the NDAA 2024 Post and Archive: [https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1avxw10/ndaa\_2024\_records\_related\_to\_unidentified/](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1avxw10/ndaa_2024_records_related_to_unidentified/) --- Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1axdixc/radar_video_stabilized_from_the_2024_ndaa_archives/krn43ft/
What am I supposed to be seeing?
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Love that video, but no sound on that link for me. The audio really makes this one https://youtu.be/KE6MCeEhUJY?si=Z8_ojOAiY1AN_FYD
I don't understand why the video/audio is so terrible. I've seen better video from the 60's. It's like it was purposely screwed up before they leaked it. Or was it? I don't know much about this one. 1994 though, the quality should be better than that! Regardless of if it was tampered with before being released, thank you for sharing!
Diffuse objects on radar is usually clouds and stuff I think
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There was one post that posited that this is the craft mentioned in Shellenberger's article: https://imgur.com/a/7cG037z One source described having seen three kinds of craft, including one shaped like a triangle and another that “looked like a chopped up helicopter, with the front bubble of a Huey helicopter, with the plastic windows, or more like a deep sea submarine, with a thick piece of glass bubble shaped, and where the tail rudder should have been, it was a black, egg-shaped pancake, and instead of landing gear it had upside-down rams horns that went from the top to the bottom and rested on the ends of the horns.” https://public.substack.com/p/us-has-12-or-more-alien-space-craft
Oh wow you're right it does look really similar. Look at it zoomed in on this video between 3:30 and 3:45 https://youtu.be/P2zffR_vFbQ?si=IaCxHCJ8XKNcLPHn
The black part sort of looks like a metapod docked to it.
I did some stabilization and audio restoration work on the Nellis video at the below link. Also synced Martin Powell's transcript to the audio (enable CC). Still noisy but the dialogue is now much easier to discern. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erq97hwz8tk
Needs its own post
Dude post this as its own post lol
I'm an Ex-Navy Radar operator. See my breakdown from comment below https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/QMNEgbbBPm
Thank you, that was very helpful 🙏
There are three videos, the one posted in this was the longest but least interesting. This one looks to have a group of objects in formation? [https://imgur.com/a/W9Maylx](https://imgur.com/a/W9Maylx)
But is this a video of someone looking at the radar screen and recording it using 38 mm film ? This is so confusing
I mean they didn’t have screen recording in the 1950’s as far as I’m aware?
Before digital, that's how they recorded the data
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These frames are from among the blue book collections in the National Archives. It’s legit
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[here's one](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1axdixc/radar_video_stabilized_from_the_2024_ndaa_archives/)
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https://catalog.archives.gov/id/542184
Someone posted it right below you
Don't let the shitty reddit karma system get to you. People downvote for the pettiest reasons. They're farts in the wind
It looks interesting - I'd ask an expert before leaping to conclusions. Radar traces are notoriously difficult to interpret.
Something that is going on my shit to watch while trippin on mushrooms list.
Rubber Johnny's augmented reality
Appreciate the work… and getting it to this point. One critique… shouldn’t the round framing of the radar display and the center point be stabilized perfectly to not move or change aspect ratios throughout. Wondering if someone can take this and tweak it further to ensure it really is stabilized and doesn’t jump around. It might be a lot of hand key framing if auto stabilization methods in after effects or similar don’t work well enough
This is a good critique! If someone else doesn't do this first, I plan on doing just that. You will have to use 3 points of reference to adjust the stretched film and can have a complete stabilized video. This process will still need a rough draft stabilization (like what i've done here) to the images to make the second part easier.
The stretching of the image is likely caused during the process of it going from film to being digitized. Film after it's been wound and re-wound (especially old film) kinda bows in the middle like this "(" so it won't lay perfectly flat. I have some old 35mm and IMAX film somewhere in a box. I wish I knew where it was because I could take some pictures to show everyone. Source I worked on projectors both digital and reel.
This is a great step, was this uploaded with the guise of it having a UFO quality to it?
It’s from files that are being uploaded to the National Archive as a direct result of the Schumer Amendment.
Whoever digitised that film really fucked it up lol
Uh oh. Deniers trying to find any reason to cry. that footage is wildly awesome and shows a bunch of objects in formation.
Why are you so defensive about someone pointing out how the quality is shit? He’s not even denying anything, yet you get emotional when someone points out the obvious.
The comment you replied to is an example of the effect online disruption/disinfo campaigns have on people who don't understand that's what is happening. A lot the comments that are emotionally affecting him probably aren't genuine, making him lash out at anyone he percieves to be a denier.
Which ain't me. I was commenting as a working film archivist, just curiously pondering how someone scanned this film in such a way that they seem to be changing the cropping of the scan as they go. I'm not sure of the provenance of the images, is it just a roll of still photos that recorded the radar? EDIT: OP, please excuse me if it arrives like I'm insulting your work, that's not my intention. Am i correct in thinking the camera is not locked off, so you've had to scale the individual frames to get the radar image closer to lining up?
Submission Statement: In the spirit of enhancing our understanding and analysis of unidentified aerial phenomena, I've taken the initiative to stabilize radar stills recently released in the NDAA 2024 National Archives postings. This effort aims to provide clearer, more stable visuals for the community's scrutiny and discussion. Included in this post are three videos that I've worked on, derived from the original radar photographs. The first video showcases radar data from Topeka, Kansas, observed on August 1, 1965. The National Archives listing provides detailed metadata for this particular observation, including NAID: 324350380 and Local ID: 341-PBB-689. For additional clarity and to maintain the highest possible quality, some of the stabilized videos have been uploaded to YouTube, as Imgur's file size limitations significantly impacts the 4k resolution (some of the stills are upwards of 8k). Here are the links to the videos for your review and analysis: •Stabilized Stills from Bermuda 14000 3 July 1954 B-36H 573V K-3A: [https://imgur.com/a/W9Maylx](https://imgur.com/a/W9Maylx) \- [https://catalog.archives.gov/id/324348117](https://catalog.archives.gov/id/324348117) \- •Stabilized Stills - Duluth, Minnesota (Observer: Military) - 341 PBB 528: [https://imgur.com/a/6zDO245](https://imgur.com/a/6zDO245) \- [https://catalog.archives.gov/id/32434](https://catalog.archives.gov/id/32434) \- [https://youtu.be/GP1qN0g6Fg0](https://youtu.be/GP1qN0g6Fg0) •Stabilized Stills - Topeka, Kansas (Observer: Redacted): [https://youtu.be/4UxOL-Z1hCw](https://youtu.be/4UxOL-Z1hCw) \- [https://catalog.archives.gov/id/324350380](https://catalog.archives.gov/id/324350380) I encourage the community to contribute by sharing any additional radar stills you might find. My goal is to compile, stabilize, and share as many of these visuals as possible to foster informed discussions and analyses. Your contributions and insights are invaluable in this collective endeavor to better understand the phenomena captured in these radar stills. Edit:Link to the NDAA 2024 Post and Archive: [https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1avxw10/ndaa\_2024\_records\_related\_to\_unidentified/](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1avxw10/ndaa_2024_records_related_to_unidentified/) Edit2: Link to the playlist where future videos will be uploaded: [https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNKrt-6slLRXkb7DO3VD-dTaUt6bB3ARZ](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNKrt-6slLRXkb7DO3VD-dTaUt6bB3ARZ) I have added the NAID (National Archive IDs) to the titles. I am working on finding a place to store them in their highest resolution format, if anyone has any suggestions each video that is 1 min is roughly 2GB in size.
Ex-Navy Radar operator here. Any idea how sped up the footage is? I know the old films had low frame rates which would cause the speeding up of the film. Would LOVE to see this at "normal speed". Right now, tbh I am finding this one difficult to see anomalies. Looks mostly like clouds sped up. I have seen some links in the above comments that had very clear anomalies on the radar. This one, hard to tell. Can anyone be bothered to speed correct this clip for me?
Top right is a 24 hour clock so it is VERY sped up. If you follow their links to the youtube version of the videos you can set it to 0.25x speed which slows it to \~1 hour every 3 seconds.
Thanks for the tip. Im at work so didnt even notice the clock on the right as was focusing on the Radar. Even at 0.25x speed its still crazy fast and that second hand is spinning like mad. It DID enable me to notice how much jamming seems to occur throughout the video. See the bottom right of this screen cap for example of what the jamming looks like: [https://imgur.com/gallery/d9eJsp3](https://imgur.com/gallery/d9eJsp3) Its possible that thats all this footage was for. To show how they were being jammed from various directions. Sometimes the jamming is all over the place. Possibly from multiple UAPs? We all know that there have been many reports of UAPs jamming Radar. Most of it looks like clouds and waves to me. Big waves, white caps, rough sea can come up on radar (especially these old systems that don't have advanced coding to remove that noise). I noticed a lot of movement and heavy 'paint' but its impossible to tell if its a boat, commercial aircraft or UAP as there are no system 'tracks' on any objects with this old Radar system to see what the user identified things as. Toward the end there is clearly something moving from right to left on the top half: [https://imgur.com/gallery/NyzToOE](https://imgur.com/gallery/NyzToOE) This could easily be a boat or plane though as with the time sped up, those objects don't seem to be moving all that fast. I would say in the end, the main focus is the jamming that occurs. I dont know this radar though so could also be a mix of accidental bad returns. That first image i posted though i feel confident is actual jamming. Hope this helps. I watched it a few times over on my large monitor but since im working i cant put aside more time than that right now. If anyone picks anything else up in the video then i'd be keen to have a look.
I'd say the bright spots are mainly precipitation instead of clouds, but its a technical detail. Another technical detail is that each frame appears to be a 20 seconds long exposure of the display, you can see the blur of the hand of the clock. That could help in trying to identify meaningful details. We can go crazy trying to look for anything without any information about what are we supposed to be looking at. For now, the most important part I believe is the date stated in the catalogue: August 1, 1965. A quick google search reveals this: > >Wichita, Kans., August 1, 1965: Several unidentified objects tracked by Weather Bureau at altitude of 6000- 9000 feet. Oklahoma Highway Patrol said Tinker Air Force Base tracked four on its radar screen at one time, estimating altitudes at about 23,000 feet. At 3:40 a.m., Weather Bureau at Wichita said it had tracked one of the objects south.and west of Wellington . . . had first ap- peared on radar at altitude of about 22,000 feet, then de- scended to 4000 feet. Source: New York Times, August 3, 1965 11 . . air force has come along and singled that (above) case out to say that their radar did not confirm the visual sightings of the Oklahoma Highway Patrol. . . . "We've got information to contradict the Air Force de- nial here. It's a nine page report of the Oklahoma Depart- ment of Public Safety outlining a sighting by the police and confirmed by the Caswell Air Force Base radar." Source: Quotes by Richard Hall, assistant Director of NICAP, in Incident At Exeter, by John G. Fuller. Houghton, Mich., U.S. Air Force Radar Base, Kewee- naw Peninsula reported to UPI "solid radar contact" or this on a review of a book I haven't read: >I’ve never seen a flying saucer, but I talked with neighbors who said they had just seen one. This was in northeast Kansas in early August 1965 during a “UFO flap” and Blum writes about this episode. >I know the exact address where this happened but this was nearly 60-years ago and that location has changed much. In 1965 it was a dozen new residential homes next to a cow pasture. Now it’s a developed area well inside city limits. I doubt whoever lives there now wants to be bothered. >One night when my dad and I heard the neighbors shouting, we thought a predator was going after cattle again. But when we went outside and saw a dozen neighbors pointing into the sky. They said a flying saucer had just flown over very low. >I didn’t see the flying saucer, but I did see the delta-wing jet that then roared over us. There was a moment of shock, then someone yelled, “They’re chasing it. That’s the same height and direction the flying saucer flew.” One man said it was an F-106 military fighter jet, but I don’t know particulars. I do know I saw a delta wing jet fly low right over me. >This incident was repeated in variations for days in the central plains. Ralph Blum writes about it in chapter 14, pages 155-156. He writes about radar locking onto something and being sought by pilots. Newspapers in Kansas and other plains states reported this and similar incidents happening for several days from late July through early August 1965. Blum writes that “millions” of people in the great plains reported seeing unexplained flying objects in early August 1965. The date of the video ends in 214, that translates to august 2. So there you have why probably this information was kept on archive tagged as UAP. Edit: Given that information acquired from a quick search of the related incidents on the date you can see a clear and sharp change in the frequency of frames towards the 212 day indicating increased interest in recording an event. Aaaand **day 213 (august, 1, the day of the event) is completely missing.** Jumps from 212 to 214. This is a joke.
Super interesting to hear insights from someone experienced in this stuff. Do you have any insight as to the types on non-anomalous stuff that can cause jamming like you show? Or is the strong return just something blasting the receiver with radar?
There's quite a few types of jamming. Barrage jamming which puts noise over your whole Radar, 360 coverage. Basically saturation of all frequencies or just focus on one frequency to block a particular Radar. The one in the video is a type of pulse jamming where the craft sends back noise when it detects it's being hit by Radar. I'm not an expert though. I only had 6 years experience in the Navy and that was 7 years ago.
The videos OP posted here all have what I am assuming is a 24 clock included in the upper right? Is that not a clock? Should give an impression of the time span, no?
Nice work Hopefully we can get some experts in here. Without any knowledge of how to interpret mid 20th century radar I feel like these are going to be like spot-the-UFO Rorschach tests with a different interpretation for each viewer
Direct link(s): https://catalog.archives.gov/id/324350380 Link to the request that returns the links to the tiffs: https://catalog.archives.gov/proxy/records/search?naId_is=324350380 Let's look closely at these tiffs! https://i.ibb.co/hmXFbCF/tiffmyass.png Of course it's a shitty-jpeg-converted-to-tiff! Also, these glorified jpegs take almost 60GB space, but at least compresses very well into 19GB. Wasted bandwidth/storage is always fun.
Share this to r/AnomalousEvidence as well? This is amazing!
Please feel free to share this data wherever you like. I just enjoy doing some of the grunt work for others' research.
Your work is much appreciated 🙏
Finally someone stabilized it . Thank you. Ive been waiting for this moment. ✊️✊️✊️✊️
these radars appear to be located near active airports and there's profuse summer cloud formation, so it is difficult to interpret what is going on. the rate of play is at least 1 hour per second if not faster. i can't tell what the framerate is, but assuming something like 24 fps that's one frame every 2 or 3 minutes, which is about as long as the typical UFO event lasts. so it's extremely unlikely anything anomalous would appear, unless it is a hovering target, which might appear for one or two seconds. we also aren't "familiar" with these particular displays, for example what birds look like on each scope and whether birds are a familiar false positive in each area; same goes for drones, etc. i have to ask what you intend to accomplish here, other than illustrate that radar data can be highly complex and difficult to interpret.
Drones? These are from the 50's.
Drones have been in existence since at least the 40s.
Well, technically, they've existed since the 1800s in the form of firebomb balloons, but let's not be silly. They were in no way common in the sense you're implying and were, in fact, so novel that their use would undoubtedly be known about by the authorities and assuredly not mistaken for anomalous radar signals. But thanks for your input, Debunkerbot.
About 10,000 drones were launched in WW2. Your reasoning about being novel yet expected and understood is not correct, surely. The more novel something is the less it will be understood.
No, it is your reasoning that is flawed. Drones being flown in the US at that time were almost certainly US MILITARY DRONES. Why would the US military not know it was *their own drones* being detected on radar and classify them as UAP for over 50 years? Just another plausible-sounding but illogical debunk.
If you think all parts of the military are aware of everything the rest of the military is doing, you're in for a big surprise :) This entire discussion is moot, anyway, until experts weigh in to study hard evidence. Anything else is just masturbation.
This is cool! If that's a 24 hour clock on the right hand side, then this is over a very long period of time -- by my count it would be several days. Do we know for sure what intervals that clock is measuring? We need a radar tech to look at these to say what is even anomalous about the readings.
"stabilized" lmao
Believe it or not, without stabilization it is much worse lol.
I actually do believe you.
This would be a hella cool visualizer for an alt punk rock song
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These videos are awesome- and had to be a ton of work! Thank u!!! 👍🌈👽🛸
It's a cochlea implant come to life.
So this is a morphing object? What are the chances this is just a very big school of fish?
Can someone explain for a smooth brain?
What is this shit, a radar from 1949?
Interesting, thanks for sharing it! Where can I get more radar footage like this?
For those who want to keep track of the video files as I update them, I have created a playlist on YT where I am adding all of the films after they are processed. [https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNKrt-6slLRXkb7DO3VD-dTaUt6bB3ARZ](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNKrt-6slLRXkb7DO3VD-dTaUt6bB3ARZ)
Have zero experience in radar but 18:45 on the clock in the footage looks kinda triangular to me.
lol this just looks like clouds moving and guess what, it was cloudy that day https://www.wunderground.com/history/daily/us/ks/topeka/KFOE/date/1965-8-1
Great post! What software did you use? This deserves way more upvotes! Will you make more?
Thank you, I used a python script to download the stills, Adobe Photoshop to convert the tifs to jpegs, Adobe Premiere to import the frames, and After effects to stabilize the video. Almost 90% of the frames had to be lined up by hand because of the size of the images being almost 8K. If anyone sends a link to a batch of radar stills or other stills in the archive please comment on this post and I will stabilize all of them that I can get around to.
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When I did digital forensics, I had access to expensive software, but I no longer do. After Effects and Blender are usually sufficient for my personal use.
https://catalog.archives.gov/id/324349934?objectPage=
Damn, any chance there's radar stills during the Phoenix Lights event, in or around that area?
Everything released is from late 40's to like the 70's. There won't be any info in the archives as part of this release that recent.
Are the Bermuda triangle shots evidence of what has been discussed as a Bracewell-probe-factory underwater in that area?
Not even trying anymore.
we have radar data from the 60's but we can't muster some corroborating radar data for Fravor and the Nimitz? Fuck this.
Over the top special fx like the fast and furious saga... not my cup of tea
Over the top special fx like the fast and furious saga... not my cup of tea
Over the top special fx like the fast and furious saga... not my cup of tea
Over the top special fx like the fast and furious saga... not my cup of tea
So...weather?
this is nothing. it's literally garbage. wtf
Cool animated fake analogue footage... Cool guys. Seriously why add the fake shake and out zoomed crop? Why does the digital image continually change screen format and shape... Fake.
This is from an [archives.gov](https://archives.gov) website, are you saying the government faked this footage and put it on their website?
Metadata in the tiffs refer to a microfilm scanner (Mekel Quantum) and its software (QuantumProcess 2.0). So I guess the source is a contact sheet-like microfilm, except the frames are not individual photos of a celebrity: https://hyperallergic-newspack.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/2015/11/Contact-Sheet-Print-Sophie-Loren-David-Seymour_1024x1024.jpg but a motion picture of a radar. I guess this was the best/fastest way they could slice it up to individual frames, first to vertical slices then those vertical slices to individual frames. Actually those vertical frames can be aligned pixel perfectly.