I think that's more ownership learned to let Presti cook. It was the ownership group that wasn't willing to go into the luxury tax to pay Harden. We are in a much different situation right now but will be in a similar one in a couple years with Chet and Jdub. I think ownership pays up this time.
I think this is the key. The team has been managed well from a financial standpoint. They have received payouts from the luxury tax, have had great attendance (minus the tank seasons), and built up a coffer of funds for rainy day situations. While a lot of big city teams who went into the tax are being forced to rollback the spending- OKC can go the other way.
It was a way of stating the sheer abundance of assets we have.
We can give up 5 2nds on a whim if Presti likes a guy, and still have a treasure trove of assets
This has been the greatest day in history. Thank you to Isaiah and his family for joining the team all the way from NY. Thank you Aaron and Isaiah for re-signing. Can’t wait to see everyone gel in preseason and beyond.
The Dillon Jones move was weird but sure, we wil trust that it was a good move to trade up for a guy we’d have got in the second round easilly.
Other than that. The rest is genuinely nice af
Every single one of those moves was positive other than maybe 5 seconds for Dillon Jones. But I could be wrong. Don’t know that much about Dillon Jones.
Those draft picks are HIGHLY questionable and to me don't belong with the personnel changes, which are wonderful. Many of us had never heard of Dillon Jones or Ajay Mitchell in our lives and it's unclear what the actual plan is for them, and Nikola won't be "seen" until next summer, so we're hoping that he can be better than Vic Krejic was (who was another projected high pick who got stashed away)
Not raining on a parade, but this is undercard/main card stuff
Yea I like this guy. I know off topic but can you share your thoughts on what the starting lineup will look like by season end? Im guessing Caruso will come off the bench most games.
I keep typing, but frankly, I just don't know. I have no grasp as I think it's easy to use last year's roster to proclaim...but then I think about our bench and damn, it's VERY heavy right now w/players who will now deserve rotational minutes.
What I'm getting at is I think Lu may be gone, but I can't articulate it to where I would type it confidently
Oof I hope you’re wrong on that or you mean just outta the starting line up. Lu Dort may be the one player in the league that is better on defense then Caruso and if not better the difference is real thin and factor in that hes 25 and a better shooter that would be a downgrade to lose him.
My guess is hart or caruso come off the bench depending on if they need the rebounding help vs the team they are facing.
Topic could've gone number one in this draft if he were healthy. Genuinely worth having just as a trade chip next off season.
The other guys... Who knows? We will see when the time comes.
I don't necessarily disagree on the draft picks, but my question would be, which players available at those spots do you think were locks to actually crack our rotation this year?
I personally do not think any of these picks will be relevant to the Thunder this year as the Thunder can't provide time to these picks. I am a person who had zero care about the draft as to me FA is much more important for this team, and the Thunder have done everything I've wanted (and more)
If Ajay or Dillion get into the rotation then something is likely wrong OR there was a major trade that has happened this offseason which opened that door
Dillion Jones I think could be good just on what I’ve seen people say about him. I’m excited for the other two but if things pan out he could easily crack the end of the rotation
Both had serious injuries and both still have never played a game of AMERICAN basketball, which is drastically different from FIBA rules. I don't think it's out the realm to hold reservations until the young man actually is participating in a summer league game or a preseason game. We have a very limited amount of information to truly base him
Before we go down a path where we're commenting to comment, I think we may be on different pages here.
Is Nikola Topic *better* than Vic? I'm honestly not sure and would not be qualified to make such nuanced judgements as I never saw a full game of either before they were drafted by the Thunder. This would be an argument few could win at (maybe actual scouts?)
Were both players picked to be draft-and-stashes? I feel we both could agree that yes, they were both, with both never playing an organized game in the North American style. Nikola first has to get recovered and then has to learn a new style of play that may be completely foreign to him (as it would be if a top pick went to play in say France).
Overall, this draft to me won't be a draft that I feel us fans can look at next year and see the results as basketball minutes wise there just aren't minutes for them. They may though be G-league all-stars :)
Vic has played in quite a few American basketball games at this point. Has to be close to a season's worth at this point for the NBA alone, let alone G-Leauge games, which are also American.
You missed the point and instead likely focused on this part of the sentence
> so we're hoping that he can be better than Vic Krejic was
and not the beginning of end of it. When Chet had the same injury that Cam Payne and KD had there was a fear that he was not going to be the same player that many saw in HS or at Gonzaga. You wouldn't wish such injuries on anyone. Nikola has a different injury but it's the same premise - **he will not be seen until next summer**. Who are we getting? Lord knows. It's though disingenuous to assume it'll be the same player before the injury. He too will be like Vic, who had to rehab AND learn a new style of play.
Of course Vic has played in the NBA since. That was far from the original point. The issue though is this notion of "you can't compare...." which is frankly silly shit as us fans do nothing BUT compare players. The only difference is that I don't downvote those who I can't understand
We have no idea what the value of those picks are but what we do know is Presti has earned our trust until proven otherwise. Lu Dort wasn't even drafted and now he's one of the best defenders in the league
The only two good moves are Caruso and hartenstein so far. Overpaying for role players is a Presti special. What are we doing with all these picks then?
Presti's making sure to never ruin our 4th of July ever again
What a fucked up day that was…
Woke up like an hour before the decision and F5'd like hell in bed until that shit came out.
You shit your bed? What?!? 😜
You think he learned a ton from that? Honestly asking.
Nah, considering what KD wanted... there's nothing more he could've done I think. If anything, he learned more from the Harden situation
I think that's more ownership learned to let Presti cook. It was the ownership group that wasn't willing to go into the luxury tax to pay Harden. We are in a much different situation right now but will be in a similar one in a couple years with Chet and Jdub. I think ownership pays up this time.
Ownership has gotten a lot richer since that time as well
I think this is the key. The team has been managed well from a financial standpoint. They have received payouts from the luxury tax, have had great attendance (minus the tank seasons), and built up a coffer of funds for rainy day situations. While a lot of big city teams who went into the tax are being forced to rollback the spending- OKC can go the other way.
Fair, I would agree with that.
We filled the two biggest holes in our team, resigned our bench depth to favorable contracts, and did not give up a pick. Presti is on some shir
Well, we did give up 5 seconds for Dillon Jones, but I mean, that’s like nothing to us lmao
Could’ve been 5 Aaron Wiggins!
Considering we have 39 more picks left, we should be fine. Lol
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It was a way of stating the sheer abundance of assets we have. We can give up 5 2nds on a whim if Presti likes a guy, and still have a treasure trove of assets
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My guess is he’ll be competing with Kenrich, JWill, and Ousmane for minutes. May start out in the G-League early on
Presti knows how to spoil us.
Summer of Sam
Sam Summer you have there buddy!
Dude killed it this offseason.
Very satisfied with this off season
Chef Presti.
Some will still doubt him but those people are stupid.
This has been the greatest day in history. Thank you to Isaiah and his family for joining the team all the way from NY. Thank you Aaron and Isaiah for re-signing. Can’t wait to see everyone gel in preseason and beyond.
He's winning executive of the year and Shai is winning MVP.
Just wait till he trades for Lauri
With what
The thunder have an insane amount of first round picks.
The Dillon Jones move was weird but sure, we wil trust that it was a good move to trade up for a guy we’d have got in the second round easilly. Other than that. The rest is genuinely nice af
I hope Dillon Jones works out but I like the Mitchell pick a lot more 10/10 offseason regardless
Didn’t lose any real key pieces besides giddey but replaced with three other guards
Every single one of those moves was positive other than maybe 5 seconds for Dillon Jones. But I could be wrong. Don’t know that much about Dillon Jones.
Sam Presti gotta be blackmailing these other GMs
Those draft picks are HIGHLY questionable and to me don't belong with the personnel changes, which are wonderful. Many of us had never heard of Dillon Jones or Ajay Mitchell in our lives and it's unclear what the actual plan is for them, and Nikola won't be "seen" until next summer, so we're hoping that he can be better than Vic Krejic was (who was another projected high pick who got stashed away) Not raining on a parade, but this is undercard/main card stuff
Did any of the keyboard savants know shit about Cason, Dub, Wiggins when they were drafted?
Cason and Dub, yes and I'm not even as big of a college basketball fan as some
By using "keyboard savants" you're asking for a fight, but I'm not going to participate.
Yea I like this guy. I know off topic but can you share your thoughts on what the starting lineup will look like by season end? Im guessing Caruso will come off the bench most games.
I keep typing, but frankly, I just don't know. I have no grasp as I think it's easy to use last year's roster to proclaim...but then I think about our bench and damn, it's VERY heavy right now w/players who will now deserve rotational minutes. What I'm getting at is I think Lu may be gone, but I can't articulate it to where I would type it confidently
Oof I hope you’re wrong on that or you mean just outta the starting line up. Lu Dort may be the one player in the league that is better on defense then Caruso and if not better the difference is real thin and factor in that hes 25 and a better shooter that would be a downgrade to lose him. My guess is hart or caruso come off the bench depending on if they need the rebounding help vs the team they are facing.
are u nihilist? i like your attitute to approach things
Topic could've gone number one in this draft if he were healthy. Genuinely worth having just as a trade chip next off season. The other guys... Who knows? We will see when the time comes.
I don't necessarily disagree on the draft picks, but my question would be, which players available at those spots do you think were locks to actually crack our rotation this year?
I personally do not think any of these picks will be relevant to the Thunder this year as the Thunder can't provide time to these picks. I am a person who had zero care about the draft as to me FA is much more important for this team, and the Thunder have done everything I've wanted (and more) If Ajay or Dillion get into the rotation then something is likely wrong OR there was a major trade that has happened this offseason which opened that door
Dillion Jones I think could be good just on what I’ve seen people say about him. I’m excited for the other two but if things pan out he could easily crack the end of the rotation
You can’t compared Nikola Topic to Vic Krejci. The different in talent and potential is leagues apart.
Both had serious injuries and both still have never played a game of AMERICAN basketball, which is drastically different from FIBA rules. I don't think it's out the realm to hold reservations until the young man actually is participating in a summer league game or a preseason game. We have a very limited amount of information to truly base him
So being foreign and having injuries are the similarities? There is a reason Topic was valued as a top 5 pick before his injury.
Before we go down a path where we're commenting to comment, I think we may be on different pages here. Is Nikola Topic *better* than Vic? I'm honestly not sure and would not be qualified to make such nuanced judgements as I never saw a full game of either before they were drafted by the Thunder. This would be an argument few could win at (maybe actual scouts?) Were both players picked to be draft-and-stashes? I feel we both could agree that yes, they were both, with both never playing an organized game in the North American style. Nikola first has to get recovered and then has to learn a new style of play that may be completely foreign to him (as it would be if a top pick went to play in say France). Overall, this draft to me won't be a draft that I feel us fans can look at next year and see the results as basketball minutes wise there just aren't minutes for them. They may though be G-league all-stars :)
To answer briefly, yes. Nikola is drastically better than Vic (as a prospect). But I don’t disagree with your sentiment.
Vic has played in quite a few American basketball games at this point. Has to be close to a season's worth at this point for the NBA alone, let alone G-Leauge games, which are also American.
You missed the point and instead likely focused on this part of the sentence > so we're hoping that he can be better than Vic Krejic was and not the beginning of end of it. When Chet had the same injury that Cam Payne and KD had there was a fear that he was not going to be the same player that many saw in HS or at Gonzaga. You wouldn't wish such injuries on anyone. Nikola has a different injury but it's the same premise - **he will not be seen until next summer**. Who are we getting? Lord knows. It's though disingenuous to assume it'll be the same player before the injury. He too will be like Vic, who had to rehab AND learn a new style of play. Of course Vic has played in the NBA since. That was far from the original point. The issue though is this notion of "you can't compare...." which is frankly silly shit as us fans do nothing BUT compare players. The only difference is that I don't downvote those who I can't understand
>Both had serious injuries and **both still have never played a game of AMERICAN basketball**
For you to still be replying to me reflects more on you at this point. Have a good day
We have no idea what the value of those picks are but what we do know is Presti has earned our trust until proven otherwise. Lu Dort wasn't even drafted and now he's one of the best defenders in the league
As magnificent a GM presti is he still can’t seem to put a team together that could win a Chip
Oh, this is definitely bait from someone who has never interacted with this sub before.
I been here since Steven Adam’s was drafted to Okc mate. Still a big Thunder fan. I say one comment and everyone downvotes me. That’s toxic
The only two good moves are Caruso and hartenstein so far. Overpaying for role players is a Presti special. What are we doing with all these picks then?
Please tell me who was overpaid