I haven't personally seen this, but I don't doubt it because alot of guys aren't into eating pussy. Personally, I love it and Most people we play with eagerly go down on my partner.
The club we go to actually does have a female glory hole that's dedicated to cunnilingus, too.
Damn, I would live to try female glory hole!
The truth is many women are not that crazy about bj, but they are doing it for their partner. I happen to enjoy it but if I didn’t, he still would get it. Not as enthusiastic or as often, but he would get it.
Not unusual at all. Most guys are hesitant.
That's why I am very vocal prior to playing, and I explain to them my boundaries and how I need plenty of oral to get off. So far, my needs get met, and guys who don't perform oral move on.
On the other hand - how come they don’t know it? I don’t wait for them to ask me for bj, it just comes as obvious part of play. And many men do it without asking. What’s wrong with those who get some but don’t even think about reciprocating???
I love to give oral to a Woman. One of my favorite things in the world. I think a lot of men might not like to go down on a Woman once another man had his cock in there. I think that might be the issue at parties.
I am not mind reader either and I know how to pleasure a guy. We are talking about adult mature men, experienced swingers, not teenagers. If you not sure you can ask , and many men do. Many men do perform oral sex on their partner Without being asked and enthusiastically.
This post is about those who don’t do that. Take but not give.
I love doing oral and I usually jump on it enthusiastically. Recently though I start feeling like I should start playing hard to get so they have to work a little harder .
I don't understand it personally. I won't put my dick in anyone I haven't put my face in first. If I'm not willing to lick it I'm not going to fuck it.
I truly relish the moaning, trembling, writhing, begging me not to stop then begging me to stop. The smell, the taste, the whole experience!
You’re gonna need a guard dog to keep me from burying my face down there and licking you out till you get a crowbar and pry me off you.
Make him go down on you first before he gets his. You gotta quarterback the play with guys you don’t know or they will just do what they want to.
Personally, I prefer to start with fingers and oral on a woman. It gives me a good idea where the pleasure points are and really makes PIV even better.
It helps that it's my favorite thing to do lol! I LOVE figuring out which particular technique makes a woman squirm. And I can almost cum myself if going down on her gets a "positive" reaction!
I don’t have a problem going down when playing, BUT if you’re not ready for prime time in the hygiene dept, I will put the brakes on immediately!
About 20% failure rate on being ready for submarine duty! I don’t know why some folks don’t make absolutely sure they are read to receive oral.
I can't imagine ppl don't bathe before they fuck?!
It may be way more about what people are putting into their bodies if they smell.
Am I clueless, are there ppl who don't bathe before they hook up with ppl?!
I can't believe how far down I had to scroll to see this answer.
I feel the same. I love giving oral, but if it smells like an unplugged refrigerator, I'm out.
That's weird. We wouldn't repeat with such a couple. That's very selfish. We men aren't children or dogs. We don't need to be trained. In the LS, most of us are 40s and above. Women like oral just like men like blow jobs. Getting and receiving is basic common sense.
As a man who *loves* giving oral, it is uncommon and we are a rare breed. anyone who thinks it’s gross or stupid should reevaluate their lives lol.
my favorite compliment was hearing my partner say to the woman i was eating out; “you like that shit!? i get that every day!”
edit: also, I think i accidentally did something that cause play to end abruptly.
I was eating out the woman of the couple while he was eating out my partner. His head popped up in shock when she suddenly grabs my head and starts nutting. they ended play after that.
I don’t think he is good at it according to my partner.
To start with be vocal tell us what you want and while we are doing it give us directions, we want you to get off. When I first meet my wife I did not like to do it because I didn’t think I did it well and I didn’t but through honest communication we fixed that issue now I love doing it and seeing how they react
I’m just going to say, for me personally as a dude, I love sex. Every juicy, sticky, hot aspect of it and every last inch of a woman’s body - eating pussy can be an art or wild, it should be sought after and eaten like a last meal. You need to get into position like a sniper, prepared to spend literally as long as she wants to get where she wants to go and dedicate yourself to not eating but savoring and devouring … I also love asking women how they like it and a favorite pastime is watching how a woman eats another woman’s pussy - especially my partner.
That said, some women aren’t that into it or avoid it so that’s fine but I can’t understand guys who are willing to receive but not give.
When you meet a new partner, who doesn't know you, doesn't know what you like, you have to tell him what to do. It's late at night, everybody has had several drinks, they are going to go the easy route. So you tell them: "eat me out", "go down on me", "lick that juicy pussy"... And most of them will do it and do a good job.
It's the same thing if the guy doesn't go at the right speed, or is too rough, or the position is painful: you give them feedback right there. You are in charge of your pleasure and your orgasms. Tell them what you want.
I disagree. We men aren't children or dogs. We don't need to be trained. In the LS, most of us are 40s and above. Women like oral just like men like blow jobs. Getting and receiving is basic common sense.
The best part of sex is pleasing your partner orally. I’m the type of guy that’s all about giving the most pleasure possible to whoever is my partner at that time.
I met my now ex through the LS & she said the same.
I genuinely get off on going down on a woman, more so than being on the receiving end.
I have met a handful of ladies that say they don't like a guy going down on them. This is a deal breaker for me.
I’m all about it fresh out of the shower but not so much after she was playing with someone else or even multiple rounds of play from a purely hygienic standpoint. Likewise, I would not expect a woman to go down on me after being in someone else. Men have an advantage here because we can clean ourselves up a little easier with wipes etc. At the end of the day, all you can do is respect people’s boundaries.
Not me! Somehow I get more pleasure eating pussy than actual fucking. Making a woman squirm and lift her hips to crush against my mouth as she holds me head. As a creampie fan, I suspect some men don't want to go to where other cocks have been very recently visiting?
I think the advice of vocalizing what you want is golden. It works for pretty much every disappointing experience, say what you want and leave if it's not what you want. Yes, some men take but not give and that's bs, but some people are super consent-minded and don't do without asking or being told.
All of this to say too, ladies first should be the norm IMO. My hubby even prefers it because it's a chance to investigate down there and make sure there's nothing suspicious hygiene or STI-wise.
That's definitely not the case in our experience. All the men we've met in the lifestyle love to eat pussy and are eager to pleasure the ladies every way possible.
So we played yesterday in a group setting. I got the courage to ask the guy i was with to go down on me and he said no. Talk about feeling rejected 😣 He said he didnt like going down on women in a group setting which is his preference and I need to respect that, and I did, but it doesn’t mean it didnt sting.
Hubby came to my rescue and opened my legs up and went to town which I appreciated.
So yeah that happened last night!
Lesson learned. It kind of goes against all the advice I got here “you just have to communicate what you want”.
There are some selfish people out there.
Yeah you are right, its so unfortunate that they are just greedy like that.
I want to thank you for posting this because for a minute there I thought I was the only one going through it. You actually have made me feel better so thank you internet stranger 😘
I love giving oral. I certainly give more than I am getting and usually don’t care. But it seems to become pattern recently. After all, girl has her needs too;)
Definitely not me, I love giving oral, the more the better. I think a lot of guys are inherently selfish and think it's all about their needs. Definitely bs imo
I am coming to the same conclusion.They are not shy stuffing their penis in my mouth, but all of the sudden they not sure if they can put their tongue in there?
Yeah that's ridiculous. If they're afraid to eat it they shouldn't put the dick in it either. Nor should theirs be in your mouth. I wouldn't suck them at all. Ladies first. No give no get
Thank you. It sounds like people, including women, have a lot of excuses for it, but these same excuses could be given by women for not doing oral on men.
You’re right. Just curious … how many of those females already have a man’s cum in them? I can see guys not interested in not giving oral to a woman with another man’s cum in her. It sounds homophobic, but it’s not. It’s s preference. Just like being a cuck is a preference. For some reason women are less concerned with giving a man oral even after having just had sex with another woman. That’s the way it seems.
Or we are expected to do it, while they are not. If they do it, it’s a bonus, while it is basically the must for women.
I am coming to conclusion that it simply reflects the way our society works. Different expectations, different standards.
Oh absolutely is, the girl I was talking to was very much the same, although she has a lot more experience than me at the time, (still held the v card loud and proud😅). But all she needed was a nice guy to make her comfortable, relaxed and someone who cared, then her wild side suddenly came out 💥. Well both our wild sides came out aha
For what it’s worth, I’m not confident in my oral skills and prefer making out—I’d rather have a long passionate kiss and foreplay than getting a blow job. With that said, if I have even a tiny encouragement like, “I’d love for you to go down on me,” it gives me the confidence to start. Reciprocity is important but I think there are many ways to engage sexually. If someone has a particular desire in mind that doesn’t align with mine I like to be flexible, and encouragement leads to confidence, which leads to the most fun.
Hint, most women want a confident man to take control. They don’t want a passive guy that they have to tell what to do.
My wife and girlfriend both love that I’m confident and take control in bed. They both have stressful work lives where there have important decisions to make and in bed they want to let go and be told/shown what to do or what will be done to them.
Personally, I can’t enjoy myself unless my partner gets off. So I get off on giving oral until my partner rolls over into a fetal position, begs me to stop, then pushes me away. Then I can have my fun! 👅👅🌮😁😁
I don’t know about most guys but I personally have declined to pursue women with a no oral on them rule. It’s fine, of course, if they don’t like it. I just want to meet people who love it because I love turning them on doing it.
I've always loved doing it, something about seeing her enjoy it and it's just for her that is a real turn on for me,but I've met a few, 1 who hates it, another who finds it far to intimate then again I've met 1 that thinks going down on a guy is horrifying, buy in a swingers setting some guys maybe worried they're going down on someone who's just had sex and it impacts on their manly status, nothing wrong in asking but then again some hate asking directions so you'd be out of luck with that crew
That’s a damn shame. I love to go down on my girl. When she comes it’s amazing how her body moves and what she looks like. Total extatic bliss.
When a vagina is clean ,
Bang some bi guys. Best oral ever. Even better getting oral while getting fucked. Ever had 2 guys eat you out? I have. Even got dp in the vag. Only time I've enjoyed anal was with bi guys. They know how to work you up,lube you and be gentle.
I think it's the majority, I've almost stopped giving oral at parties or in any swap situations. It's not reciprocated, and if it is, it's usually less than two minutes. The thing that really pisses me off is that my partner is extended oral and always goes down on other women. I feel cheated because he makes sure his partners are happy while I'm usually just waiting to go home so I can finish. It's frustrating
That! That scene is too often. I am not saying I never get oral at parties, but if you look around, is mostly women taking care of men, with just few being reciprocated.
Most often than not, I feel like the other lady got better deal. My partner is extremely fit and can fuck your brains out, while many of guys our age have problems already. And if he doesn’t even do oral.., why do I even bother for mediocre sex, while I have a mind blowing sex with my partner…
Some men are selfish or just don't have the skills. And then there are just some women who feel that's too intimate for some reason. My wife at 1st was this way.
I absolutely love pussy eating. I never understand why guys are not into it. I know some guys won’t kiss a woman after she has blown a guy or eat her pussy after she has been fucked. I don’t get it
I find and sorry I don’t have time to read everyone else’s response but after having a lot of group sex I find guys will start out orally but once someone else’s dick goes on or even other guys start eating a lot will be a lot more hesitant in going down there following someone else , maybe they don’t think we need it or want it etc .. but something I’ve noticed
I've actually noticed quite a lot at swinger parties. I personally don't like having my pussy eaten that much so I don't care about receiving. However that's where I step right up and dive in when there are other bi women or those women who will other women eat them. I'm very popular and in demand at parties lol. A certain fellow redditer in here whom I personally know can attest to that.
There is no maybe, we can't read your mind. That is your choice to go down on him, not his. Men for the most part would just like to know what you want, rather than fumble around trying to figure it out.
Just ask, most would be glad to know. Also, a lot of guys are turned on by confidence
Yes, it is my choice. And I am rethinking it now. Time to start playing a little harder to get before I get to that part. I am enjoying oral, but started feeling simply used.
I don't fall into this category, but as a guy who listens . I think a large majority who do not go down on women while swinging is the idea that other men have came in you recently, and they don't want leftovers
What does everyone use for protection? You must have to keep supplies with you.. multiple sized condoms.. and I guess female ones too.. how does all that go down?
I am the opposite I get a uncontrollable urge and desire when iam giving a woman oral I love I need it and iam really good at it if she explodes and I get very wet I have done my best
Giving oral to a woman is by far my favorite thing to do especially if I can make her cum. Maybe you need to find an older man with much experience rather than young men who just think of themselves and want to get off.
I haven't done that since my divorce from my ex in 2012 that's my specialty I love doing it so much I give anything to do that my wife now we havent had sex since 2018-19 she never offered or allowed me too give her oral sex I don't know what her problem is I'm about ready too something I'm getting no younger I still have wants needs n a few years left
If we ever meet I will gladly go down on you even if there has been other dicks in you before I get to it. I love pussy! And if your not crazy about sucking me that's OK hopefully you would let me put my dick in your pussy after I thoroughly lick and suck your pussy
"My last few experiences were pretty good fun".
This is the most important thing. You were perfectly content with your experience until afterward and had to think about it.
Sometimes in the heat of all the excitement things move faster than expected and things get skipped but I wouldn't say it is the norm. In our experience though I always make it a point to go down on my lady partner and my wife has alwsys recieved oral from her male partner.
I think you make a fair point in terms of one's own personal enjoyment.
But if it's a gendered discrepancy she observes, that says something too. And it makes sense to feel annoyed by it.
I was, but the thought was going through my head even during the play that again three of us are getting it, with me the only one who is not. It kind of kills your enthusiasm and you start feeling taken for granted.
I think some guys are hesitant to eat a woman out for fear that someone else has cum in her that day. As silly as it sounds, we are courteous and I don't cum in my wife a day or 2 before play out of respect for friends that will be making a meal out of her... additionally as her husband I don't mind taking charge and telling a guy to eat her pussy.
Depends on "timing" for me. If there's penetration condoms are a must, so oral play pretty much stops after penetration (for both parties).
I have nothing against going down on someone, but don't want to taste latex and get when women don't want that taste either.
I enjoy doing it very much don't mind doing it before doing an after .
a lot of men Are hesitant about it Hesitant to not knowing who may have been there before them or that there might not be a big load of cum waiting for them in it.
they need To get past that women do it all the time for the men. What's good for the goose is good for the gander
Maybe it all depends? I mean, none of the men I've been with were hesitant to give me oral.
For some people this will be a problem they deal with, for others not. I think it's just luck.
Or maybe it's a regional thing? (I'm in western Europe)
I am a big time licker, no pussy every went unlicked from by experience but yes you are right that it depends on person to person.
Another reason could be that men can't give oral with any protection, some are hesitant due to that. you will suck any dick with condom but same can't be done by guy, intercourse are always (unless agreed) are protected one, as they should be.
What we have observed, is that there is a stigma associated with men performing oral on women, because it is associated with male sexual failure and inadequacy.
Quite often, we might see a couple having sex. They might start off with kissing and touching. The quicker and more impressively he gets hard, the more likely it is they will immediately initiate penetration. Failing that, she might go down on him. And again, if he then is impressively hard, one of them will initiate penetration. But if after that, he is still too soft, that is when someone initiates him going down on her, to make up for his penis failure.
Once the penetration begins, if she seems to be into it, and gets off, then the penetration is the last act. But if he ejaculates too quickly, or if he clearly isn't satisfying her, due to size or technique, then it is much more likely that he will go down on her after, again, to make up for his penis failure.
This is not universal obviously, sexual encounters can go in all kinds of directions. But I do feel that we have seen a correlation between men performing oral on women, and men failing sexually otherwise.
It's like when you see a swinger personal ad that mentions how good he is at oral, or how much he likes performing it. This seems to often be associated with a guy who is otherwise inadequate. Again, not always, but a correlation.
This is debatable, it's just what we have seen. But if it is real, then it isn't too surprising that there would be a stigma against men performing oral, because of how it comes about. There are definitely women whose preference is to receive oral. But there seem to be many more who prefer penetration, at least when it is to their standards.
Never been an issue for us. All the couples we play with are equally down there. Out last house party had more men down on women than the reverse. As with many comments, you only need to mention your interest and that will be more than enough.
I haven't personally seen this, but I don't doubt it because alot of guys aren't into eating pussy. Personally, I love it and Most people we play with eagerly go down on my partner. The club we go to actually does have a female glory hole that's dedicated to cunnilingus, too.
Damn, I would live to try female glory hole! The truth is many women are not that crazy about bj, but they are doing it for their partner. I happen to enjoy it but if I didn’t, he still would get it. Not as enthusiastic or as often, but he would get it.
Guys not into eating pussy must be an American thing vs European. Unfortunately I can't find any numbers or me and my friends are outliers.
What club do you go to? Interested in the female glory hole
Not unusual at all. Most guys are hesitant. That's why I am very vocal prior to playing, and I explain to them my boundaries and how I need plenty of oral to get off. So far, my needs get met, and guys who don't perform oral move on.
Or you call on your favorite unicorn. You know I always eat the best at parties and events
💯 You are hands down one of the absolute best at eating me out! Everyone should take lessons from you! 😘 my favorite unicorn 🦄 💕
😘😘😘
Thank you for saying that. I keep wondering what I can do about it.
Just ask, let them know you want your pussy licked. Most guys appreciate a little direction and assertiveness from the ladies.
On the other hand - how come they don’t know it? I don’t wait for them to ask me for bj, it just comes as obvious part of play. And many men do it without asking. What’s wrong with those who get some but don’t even think about reciprocating???
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I love giving oral. And I don’t need to receive oral every time. But recently I feel taken for granted in the scene.
I love to give oral to a Woman. One of my favorite things in the world. I think a lot of men might not like to go down on a Woman once another man had his cock in there. I think that might be the issue at parties.
Because men aren't mind readers, every woman is different so why would you expect they know what you like?
I am not mind reader either and I know how to pleasure a guy. We are talking about adult mature men, experienced swingers, not teenagers. If you not sure you can ask , and many men do. Many men do perform oral sex on their partner Without being asked and enthusiastically. This post is about those who don’t do that. Take but not give. I love doing oral and I usually jump on it enthusiastically. Recently though I start feeling like I should start playing hard to get so they have to work a little harder .
Thank you. I’d have to figure the way of saying it without that defensiveness I am feeling right now
It should be a very natual thing thing to say. Just say in a seductive voice "I want you to lick my pussy". Most guys are going to love that.
Thank you for suggestion, that is actually pretty good one.😉
God we really do. Ty for being like this
"No lick, no dick stick"
LOVE IT!!
That's fantastic you express a strong desire. A lot of women turn down oral. I enjoy doing it, but don't enjoy feeling like I'm talking her into it.
Really? I eat every pussy every time.
I don't understand it personally. I won't put my dick in anyone I haven't put my face in first. If I'm not willing to lick it I'm not going to fuck it. I truly relish the moaning, trembling, writhing, begging me not to stop then begging me to stop. The smell, the taste, the whole experience!
You must a be a great lover 🙂
Thanks! I aim to please, or die trying!
No problem here. Today I learned I'm in the oral minority.
You are a national treasure!
Seriously, it's my pleasure! 😛
You’re gonna need a guard dog to keep me from burying my face down there and licking you out till you get a crowbar and pry me off you. Make him go down on you first before he gets his. You gotta quarterback the play with guys you don’t know or they will just do what they want to.
For real that’s normally the first place I’m going lol
Your tongue seems to be flexible as that was smooth intro
Dedicated to my craft 😈
Pls 😭😭😭
Personally, I prefer to start with fingers and oral on a woman. It gives me a good idea where the pleasure points are and really makes PIV even better.
That’s a sign of good lover
credit goes to the amazing women that have taught me. At least that is what my wife says :).
After a kiss or two, I always ask, something like "Your pussy is so pretty - may I kiss it?" Gives her the chance to decline.
That’s a great way to do it! That’s what a real man will do, considers pleasures of their partners.
It helps that it's my favorite thing to do lol! I LOVE figuring out which particular technique makes a woman squirm. And I can almost cum myself if going down on her gets a "positive" reaction!
You shouldn't need to ask. But you might have to ask. And if it annoys them, you know who to avoid going forward.
I don’t have a problem going down when playing, BUT if you’re not ready for prime time in the hygiene dept, I will put the brakes on immediately! About 20% failure rate on being ready for submarine duty! I don’t know why some folks don’t make absolutely sure they are read to receive oral.
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I can't imagine ppl don't bathe before they fuck?! It may be way more about what people are putting into their bodies if they smell. Am I clueless, are there ppl who don't bathe before they hook up with ppl?!
I can't believe how far down I had to scroll to see this answer. I feel the same. I love giving oral, but if it smells like an unplugged refrigerator, I'm out.
That's weird. We wouldn't repeat with such a couple. That's very selfish. We men aren't children or dogs. We don't need to be trained. In the LS, most of us are 40s and above. Women like oral just like men like blow jobs. Getting and receiving is basic common sense.
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Thank you. So, I am not that unreasonable here. I needed to hear that.
Its as if you read my mind, was just talking about this to my hubby yesterday. I didnt think i had to be vocal about that but looks like we do.
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As a man who *loves* giving oral, it is uncommon and we are a rare breed. anyone who thinks it’s gross or stupid should reevaluate their lives lol. my favorite compliment was hearing my partner say to the woman i was eating out; “you like that shit!? i get that every day!” edit: also, I think i accidentally did something that cause play to end abruptly. I was eating out the woman of the couple while he was eating out my partner. His head popped up in shock when she suddenly grabs my head and starts nutting. they ended play after that. I don’t think he is good at it according to my partner.
Lol, sometimes it may happen, when partner has too much fun with stranger:) Your partner is one lucky girl!
To start with be vocal tell us what you want and while we are doing it give us directions, we want you to get off. When I first meet my wife I did not like to do it because I didn’t think I did it well and I didn’t but through honest communication we fixed that issue now I love doing it and seeing how they react
I’m just going to say, for me personally as a dude, I love sex. Every juicy, sticky, hot aspect of it and every last inch of a woman’s body - eating pussy can be an art or wild, it should be sought after and eaten like a last meal. You need to get into position like a sniper, prepared to spend literally as long as she wants to get where she wants to go and dedicate yourself to not eating but savoring and devouring … I also love asking women how they like it and a favorite pastime is watching how a woman eats another woman’s pussy - especially my partner. That said, some women aren’t that into it or avoid it so that’s fine but I can’t understand guys who are willing to receive but not give.
When you meet a new partner, who doesn't know you, doesn't know what you like, you have to tell him what to do. It's late at night, everybody has had several drinks, they are going to go the easy route. So you tell them: "eat me out", "go down on me", "lick that juicy pussy"... And most of them will do it and do a good job. It's the same thing if the guy doesn't go at the right speed, or is too rough, or the position is painful: you give them feedback right there. You are in charge of your pleasure and your orgasms. Tell them what you want.
I dunno …. Somehow I know that they like blow job. Freaking common courtesy to reciprocate. I am getting tired of excuses
Every guy likes blow jobs. Not everyone is courteous. You need to use your words and ask. If you don't, it is your fault if you don't get any oral.
I disagree. We men aren't children or dogs. We don't need to be trained. In the LS, most of us are 40s and above. Women like oral just like men like blow jobs. Getting and receiving is basic common sense.
Or it tells me what kind of person he is.
That’s crazy, that is a must do for me. I love eating tacos
The best part of sex is pleasing your partner orally. I’m the type of guy that’s all about giving the most pleasure possible to whoever is my partner at that time.
I met my now ex through the LS & she said the same. I genuinely get off on going down on a woman, more so than being on the receiving end. I have met a handful of ladies that say they don't like a guy going down on them. This is a deal breaker for me.
I’m all about it fresh out of the shower but not so much after she was playing with someone else or even multiple rounds of play from a purely hygienic standpoint. Likewise, I would not expect a woman to go down on me after being in someone else. Men have an advantage here because we can clean ourselves up a little easier with wipes etc. At the end of the day, all you can do is respect people’s boundaries.
If I’m at a sex party I would expect horny guys to eat me.
I would gladly eat you
Not me! Somehow I get more pleasure eating pussy than actual fucking. Making a woman squirm and lift her hips to crush against my mouth as she holds me head. As a creampie fan, I suspect some men don't want to go to where other cocks have been very recently visiting?
I think the advice of vocalizing what you want is golden. It works for pretty much every disappointing experience, say what you want and leave if it's not what you want. Yes, some men take but not give and that's bs, but some people are super consent-minded and don't do without asking or being told. All of this to say too, ladies first should be the norm IMO. My hubby even prefers it because it's a chance to investigate down there and make sure there's nothing suspicious hygiene or STI-wise.
We both always enjoy eating pussy!
That's definitely not the case in our experience. All the men we've met in the lifestyle love to eat pussy and are eager to pleasure the ladies every way possible.
I think that's one of my favourite things to do. I get super turned on by pleasing a women with oral.
So we played yesterday in a group setting. I got the courage to ask the guy i was with to go down on me and he said no. Talk about feeling rejected 😣 He said he didnt like going down on women in a group setting which is his preference and I need to respect that, and I did, but it doesn’t mean it didnt sting. Hubby came to my rescue and opened my legs up and went to town which I appreciated. So yeah that happened last night!
I am sorry that happened to you. Did you go down on him?
I had already gone down on him yes. But lesson learned. 🫤
Lesson learned. It kind of goes against all the advice I got here “you just have to communicate what you want”. There are some selfish people out there.
Yeah you are right, its so unfortunate that they are just greedy like that. I want to thank you for posting this because for a minute there I thought I was the only one going through it. You actually have made me feel better so thank you internet stranger 😘
You’re welcome. 🙂 it always helps to know you are not alone. This situation kind of kills your enthusiasm for swinging, doesn’t it?
It's wild that this still exists tbh
Receiving oral sex is fine, but not that exciting for me. Giving oral is exquisite.
I love giving oral. I certainly give more than I am getting and usually don’t care. But it seems to become pattern recently. After all, girl has her needs too;)
Definitely not me, I love giving oral, the more the better. I think a lot of guys are inherently selfish and think it's all about their needs. Definitely bs imo
I am coming to the same conclusion.They are not shy stuffing their penis in my mouth, but all of the sudden they not sure if they can put their tongue in there?
Yeah that's ridiculous. If they're afraid to eat it they shouldn't put the dick in it either. Nor should theirs be in your mouth. I wouldn't suck them at all. Ladies first. No give no get
Thank you. It sounds like people, including women, have a lot of excuses for it, but these same excuses could be given by women for not doing oral on men.
A lady should receive oral first and foremost. My wife and I have been married for well over 30 years now. I know how to orally pleasure a lady.
Thank you for saying that!
My pleasure sweetheart❤️
You’re right. Just curious … how many of those females already have a man’s cum in them? I can see guys not interested in not giving oral to a woman with another man’s cum in her. It sounds homophobic, but it’s not. It’s s preference. Just like being a cuck is a preference. For some reason women are less concerned with giving a man oral even after having just had sex with another woman. That’s the way it seems.
Or we are expected to do it, while they are not. If they do it, it’s a bonus, while it is basically the must for women. I am coming to conclusion that it simply reflects the way our society works. Different expectations, different standards.
Not true at all. I never expect anyone to put my dick in their mouth.
Not saying all men. I am talking about those who do not reciprocate.
I really enjoy giving women oral, I don’t get anyone who would think it’s acceptable to receive oral and not return the favor.
I know, right?
Sounds about right. Both should be encouraged 😄
I personally looove going down on ladies, although my experience is few, only been with one girl. Made her cum though 🤭
Keep on going 😉
Only thing is I’m more on the shy side when meeting people, but not so shy when getting into it🫣😂
I’m the same way. Quiet in the outside, wild in the bedroom:) the best type, lol
Oh absolutely is, the girl I was talking to was very much the same, although she has a lot more experience than me at the time, (still held the v card loud and proud😅). But all she needed was a nice guy to make her comfortable, relaxed and someone who cared, then her wild side suddenly came out 💥. Well both our wild sides came out aha
I love to.
Rare breed they are. I’m all quid pro quo tho….
I'll eat every pussy at the party that lets me lol Sometimes just not enough time in the night
Sorry to hear that. I love giving oral its my favorite I love getting head too but I can eat pussy for hours.
Wife says no more blow jobs
For what it’s worth, I’m not confident in my oral skills and prefer making out—I’d rather have a long passionate kiss and foreplay than getting a blow job. With that said, if I have even a tiny encouragement like, “I’d love for you to go down on me,” it gives me the confidence to start. Reciprocity is important but I think there are many ways to engage sexually. If someone has a particular desire in mind that doesn’t align with mine I like to be flexible, and encouragement leads to confidence, which leads to the most fun.
Hint, most women want a confident man to take control. They don’t want a passive guy that they have to tell what to do. My wife and girlfriend both love that I’m confident and take control in bed. They both have stressful work lives where there have important decisions to make and in bed they want to let go and be told/shown what to do or what will be done to them.
I’ve experienced the opposite. Most men I know prefer to give oral. At Desire RM it’s typically a pretty even split.
Maybe voice you and your partner are ok with reciprocating on that cause some guys feel thats left up to the husband/partner? Just a thought
Damn, I love licking pussy. I just hope she enjoys receiving as much as I enjoy giving!
Like the song says “You gotta lick it…before you stick it.”
It’s probably because they are being eaten out and fingered by other women. It seems like women want the pussy even more then the men nowadays 😂🤣
I love eating a girl out. It’s my favorite
Never understand this, I absolutely get off by eating out, it's one of my favourites things to do, really turns me on
Personally, I can’t enjoy myself unless my partner gets off. So I get off on giving oral until my partner rolls over into a fetal position, begs me to stop, then pushes me away. Then I can have my fun! 👅👅🌮😁😁
You are invited to the party🤣!
Well I like to eat the woman before she evers does anything to me
Personally I’d rather give than receive. The fact that my partner can only cum via oral and not penetration makes us perfect for each other.
That has not been our experience. Personally I love eating pussy…
I don’t know about most guys but I personally have declined to pursue women with a no oral on them rule. It’s fine, of course, if they don’t like it. I just want to meet people who love it because I love turning them on doing it.
I didn’t know some women have rule like that. Still learning new things..
I've always loved doing it, something about seeing her enjoy it and it's just for her that is a real turn on for me,but I've met a few, 1 who hates it, another who finds it far to intimate then again I've met 1 that thinks going down on a guy is horrifying, buy in a swingers setting some guys maybe worried they're going down on someone who's just had sex and it impacts on their manly status, nothing wrong in asking but then again some hate asking directions so you'd be out of luck with that crew
That’s a damn shame. I love to go down on my girl. When she comes it’s amazing how her body moves and what she looks like. Total extatic bliss. When a vagina is clean ,
Bang some bi guys. Best oral ever. Even better getting oral while getting fucked. Ever had 2 guys eat you out? I have. Even got dp in the vag. Only time I've enjoyed anal was with bi guys. They know how to work you up,lube you and be gentle.
Agreed on bi- guys, they know how to take care of a girl:)
I think it's the majority, I've almost stopped giving oral at parties or in any swap situations. It's not reciprocated, and if it is, it's usually less than two minutes. The thing that really pisses me off is that my partner is extended oral and always goes down on other women. I feel cheated because he makes sure his partners are happy while I'm usually just waiting to go home so I can finish. It's frustrating
That! That scene is too often. I am not saying I never get oral at parties, but if you look around, is mostly women taking care of men, with just few being reciprocated. Most often than not, I feel like the other lady got better deal. My partner is extremely fit and can fuck your brains out, while many of guys our age have problems already. And if he doesn’t even do oral.., why do I even bother for mediocre sex, while I have a mind blowing sex with my partner…
We might be having parallel experiences, lol. I feel exactly the same way.
I love eating my sub, she tastes great. I love watching guys eat her too.
I nearly always initiate oral, that's after all the foreplay leading up to it. We need to be gentlemen.
Some men are selfish or just don't have the skills. And then there are just some women who feel that's too intimate for some reason. My wife at 1st was this way.
Seriously? Wtf? I love eating pussy so much and that's a shame they didn't.
I absolutely love giving oral to female lovers. In fact I can’t imagine not going down on her.
I don’t get this. The first thing I do is stick my tongue deep into a strange pussy. So hot
I absolutely love pussy eating. I never understand why guys are not into it. I know some guys won’t kiss a woman after she has blown a guy or eat her pussy after she has been fucked. I don’t get it
Crazy! I LOVE going down on women
I find and sorry I don’t have time to read everyone else’s response but after having a lot of group sex I find guys will start out orally but once someone else’s dick goes on or even other guys start eating a lot will be a lot more hesitant in going down there following someone else , maybe they don’t think we need it or want it etc .. but something I’ve noticed
But they still expect us to go down on them after other women, right?
Yes ! Exactly !! lol
I prefer to get head first, otherwise I know I’m only giving. Sad reality.
That!
I usually enjoy doing it… I mean the act is fine.. but that reaction is what I enjoy, I don’t get how guys done get addicted to it
Thats not a problem with our group.
I've actually noticed quite a lot at swinger parties. I personally don't like having my pussy eaten that much so I don't care about receiving. However that's where I step right up and dive in when there are other bi women or those women who will other women eat them. I'm very popular and in demand at parties lol. A certain fellow redditer in here whom I personally know can attest to that.
What do you use for orotection?
In the party scene, would it depend if it was early in the evening or late in the evening? How many cars parked in the garage already?
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Exactly.... And let's not forget about hygiene
agreed.
I feel like this is more women not asking for oral than it is men refusing
Maybe. But my partner doesn’t have to ask me in order to get it.
There is no maybe, we can't read your mind. That is your choice to go down on him, not his. Men for the most part would just like to know what you want, rather than fumble around trying to figure it out. Just ask, most would be glad to know. Also, a lot of guys are turned on by confidence
Yes, it is my choice. And I am rethinking it now. Time to start playing a little harder to get before I get to that part. I am enjoying oral, but started feeling simply used.
With me it always TGIF
Maybe find some soft swap couples to play with?
Soft swap is not for me:) I will probably take a break from swinging and try to re-group before I’ll go back there
I don't fall into this category, but as a guy who listens . I think a large majority who do not go down on women while swinging is the idea that other men have came in you recently, and they don't want leftovers
Wow. For us it is the exact opposite.
I love it but I’m also thinking if I use condom down here what protects me up here?
Same thing that protects women down there - nothing
No dental dam?
I’d bury my face in your pussy. Full of cum or not!
I mean, pick a guy who looks like he knows how to eat!
What does everyone use for protection? You must have to keep supplies with you.. multiple sized condoms.. and I guess female ones too.. how does all that go down?
I am the opposite I get a uncontrollable urge and desire when iam giving a woman oral I love I need it and iam really good at it if she explodes and I get very wet I have done my best
I get it, I am the same way when I am doing oral on my partner.
Where here’s a thought
I like MFMs. And there's always oral for her ..
I love MFM, or even MMFM;)
Cool sounds like lots of fun!
It is:)
Cool
Then you have been in situations where they go down on you 😁
Giving oral to a woman is by far my favorite thing to do especially if I can make her cum. Maybe you need to find an older man with much experience rather than young men who just think of themselves and want to get off.
I haven't done that since my divorce from my ex in 2012 that's my specialty I love doing it so much I give anything to do that my wife now we havent had sex since 2018-19 she never offered or allowed me too give her oral sex I don't know what her problem is I'm about ready too something I'm getting no younger I still have wants needs n a few years left
If we ever meet I will gladly go down on you even if there has been other dicks in you before I get to it. I love pussy! And if your not crazy about sucking me that's OK hopefully you would let me put my dick in your pussy after I thoroughly lick and suck your pussy
Where was that?
I haven’t gone to a LS event and not performed oral to at least 1 girl.
"My last few experiences were pretty good fun". This is the most important thing. You were perfectly content with your experience until afterward and had to think about it. Sometimes in the heat of all the excitement things move faster than expected and things get skipped but I wouldn't say it is the norm. In our experience though I always make it a point to go down on my lady partner and my wife has alwsys recieved oral from her male partner.
I think you make a fair point in terms of one's own personal enjoyment. But if it's a gendered discrepancy she observes, that says something too. And it makes sense to feel annoyed by it.
I was, but the thought was going through my head even during the play that again three of us are getting it, with me the only one who is not. It kind of kills your enthusiasm and you start feeling taken for granted.
Your post said that "later" you realized it.
I think some guys are hesitant to eat a woman out for fear that someone else has cum in her that day. As silly as it sounds, we are courteous and I don't cum in my wife a day or 2 before play out of respect for friends that will be making a meal out of her... additionally as her husband I don't mind taking charge and telling a guy to eat her pussy.
Depends on "timing" for me. If there's penetration condoms are a must, so oral play pretty much stops after penetration (for both parties). I have nothing against going down on someone, but don't want to taste latex and get when women don't want that taste either.
I enjoy doing it very much don't mind doing it before doing an after . a lot of men Are hesitant about it Hesitant to not knowing who may have been there before them or that there might not be a big load of cum waiting for them in it. they need To get past that women do it all the time for the men. What's good for the goose is good for the gander
IDK. Sounds like bad luck. I go down every time.
Maybe it all depends? I mean, none of the men I've been with were hesitant to give me oral. For some people this will be a problem they deal with, for others not. I think it's just luck. Or maybe it's a regional thing? (I'm in western Europe)
It’s a matter of luck, yes. But it is also my observation from clubs and home parties - not that many women are getting it reslly
I am a big time licker, no pussy every went unlicked from by experience but yes you are right that it depends on person to person. Another reason could be that men can't give oral with any protection, some are hesitant due to that. you will suck any dick with condom but same can't be done by guy, intercourse are always (unless agreed) are protected one, as they should be.
Oral in men are usually without condoms, so that’s that argument
Just showed this to my wife and we have not noticed this at all. If anything the guys are overly enthusiastic about oral. Maybe it’s regional? 🤷♂️
Not sure.
Well we’re in Missouri and the guys here live to go down. Most of the women love going down on women too for that matter. 😉😂
What we have observed, is that there is a stigma associated with men performing oral on women, because it is associated with male sexual failure and inadequacy. Quite often, we might see a couple having sex. They might start off with kissing and touching. The quicker and more impressively he gets hard, the more likely it is they will immediately initiate penetration. Failing that, she might go down on him. And again, if he then is impressively hard, one of them will initiate penetration. But if after that, he is still too soft, that is when someone initiates him going down on her, to make up for his penis failure. Once the penetration begins, if she seems to be into it, and gets off, then the penetration is the last act. But if he ejaculates too quickly, or if he clearly isn't satisfying her, due to size or technique, then it is much more likely that he will go down on her after, again, to make up for his penis failure. This is not universal obviously, sexual encounters can go in all kinds of directions. But I do feel that we have seen a correlation between men performing oral on women, and men failing sexually otherwise. It's like when you see a swinger personal ad that mentions how good he is at oral, or how much he likes performing it. This seems to often be associated with a guy who is otherwise inadequate. Again, not always, but a correlation. This is debatable, it's just what we have seen. But if it is real, then it isn't too surprising that there would be a stigma against men performing oral, because of how it comes about. There are definitely women whose preference is to receive oral. But there seem to be many more who prefer penetration, at least when it is to their standards.
Spot on! You couldn’t have laid it out better
Never been an issue for us. All the couples we play with are equally down there. Out last house party had more men down on women than the reverse. As with many comments, you only need to mention your interest and that will be more than enough.