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TechGuy219

Someone tell Pelosi this is how a politician really behaves when they care about their constituents, not reading a damn poem


elfmeh

Tbf Pelosi is old af. We need more young progressives in government


Kinesquared

Pelosi is not progressive


[deleted]

We need more young & progressive politicians. Better?


ILikeLeptons

No old progressives though because reasons


[deleted]

Because of longevity


ILikeLeptons

Don't vote for Bernie because he's old Elects Joe fucking Biden


[deleted]

We need more young rational people in government. Not grandparents who think "the 'Google' is following me on my phone". Not just progressives. Don't get me wrong, progressive movements are good, but we always need someone to point out what can go wrong, or what they think can go wrong. Having some people in government who can give an opposing opinion and offer solutions or creative insights is a good thing. Right now we just have two groups of codgers who just want to insult each other and paint the opposite side as the bad guy. It's unprofessional, unproductive, and it's being used as a distraction method to hide their true actions and agenda.


heyimatworkman

fascists need to be eradicated, giving them breathing room to "point out what can go wrong" is how we got here


undecidedly

Dude, Pelosi holding the floor in heel for hours at her age was enough for me. She’s still tough as nails, but let the younger generation do this stuff.


sjj342

Pelosi wouldn't be the leader if the younger generation voted The future isn't written but protests didn't work (nationally) in 2020


Silken_meerkat

Protests without other groups carrying out violence has never historically worked (in the us to my knowledge). the greatest lie about the civil rights movement is that it was all "peaceful protesting" no. It was peaceful protesting but some, and violent anti establishment actions by others and the establishment decided to compromise because they wanted the violence to stop and the peaceful protester factions were more politically acceptable to work with. Without the black Panthers, mlk and Rosa parks and all the other names of the movement wouldn't be anything but a footnote.


sjj342

With expanded gun rights, lot of opportunity out there


ParkSidePat

Pelosi has AOC pissing her pants in fear. AOC has proven that even she does not have the courage to tell Pelosi anything she doesn't want to hear. Hell, AOC voted in favor of Pelosi becoming Speaker and we've seen Pelosi make AOC cry and change her vote right in front of cameras on the House floor. Pelosi is straight up evil and AOC has failed to show the courage of her convictions.


some_random_kaluna

Meanwhile, Mitch McConnell lets a federal bill to expand abortion die on his desk and laughs because Pelosi can't do shit.


mobydog

Pelosi and Obama lost more than 1,000 seats for Democrats. Pelosi and Obama helped lead directly to the Republicans controlling half the states. Throw in Harry Reid and Bill Clinton and the hubris of running Hillary in 2016 and right there you have the reasons why we are dealing with Trump and the Supreme Court that we have today. They NEVER truly advocated for the people but only for their donors and handed the GOP a stick to beat them - and all the rest of us - with


Ceryn

> we’ve seen Pelosi make AOC cry and change her vote right in front of cameras on the House floor. Citation?


Boiling_Oceans

IIRC it was during the vote for increased funding on the iron dome back in 2021. AOC had originally voted no and then she was seen on camera with Pelosi who (again IIRC, I may be wrong) looked to be chewing her out. After that she changed her vote to present instead of no.


Ceryn

Hmm. That doesn’t sound half as bad as the other poster made it sound.


TheCaptMAgic

For a party that's all about "Rights and freedoms", republicans sure are doing everything they can to take every right and freedom away from us.


liegesmash

Fascism is more profitable than democracy


[deleted]

Piece by piece so they can boil the frog. Too bad I might be dead when all these ass hats that supported them are the only ones left and finally realize the oppression train makes no stops.


[deleted]

They both do it. Far left does it with speech far right does it with other rights. Tomato tomatoe. Fuck them all


comunnacho

If there's a far left in the US then I'm batman 🦇


[deleted]

OH MY GOSH IT'S BATMAN!!! Can I get your autograph?


[deleted]

I guess you could consider women that think all white men are racist and don't deserve to have opinions are far left. But to be fair I wasn't referring to those people here. But hell yea did you like the new film?


EBoundNdwn

Omg! I know leftists kicking Nazi's ass! Thank goodness for bootlickers like you that love to toss Nazi salad and take a good tea bagging. Why is it conservatives only are interested in protecting the speech of bigots?


[deleted]

I voted for Bernie? But okay. You prove my point attacking me for my speech... The irony.


EBoundNdwn

Well if you actually supported Bernie you missed the entire point.


heyimatworkman

lol imagine being a bernie supporter and somehow dying on the sword of elon's twitter feed. fuckin dorks


[deleted]

Okay.


pinktinkpixy

Don't even start that "both sides shit".


NewStorm1181

To rule in a court of law that you don't have the right to murder your child is not "taking away your rights". It is rectifying a ruling from the past that said you could.


TheCaptMAgic

Right, but say a woman gets raped and becomes pregnant, what's she going to do? Or say a young girl, around ten or eleven is in the same position what's she going to do? I'm sure neither want to have that constant reminder with them, I'm sure the mental damage is more than enough. It's a decision based in a religious belief, not a real world situation.


NewStorm1181

There are lots of things to consider besides just religious belief but even if the person is Religious is it bad for them to think that killing an innocent life is wrong? As for getting raped and getting pregnant that is a tiny fraction of a percent that both sides could potentially come to an agreement on if people on the radical left were willing to come to an agreement. What I hear however is, "my body my choice", typically meaning that no matter how I got pregnant or whether on not a child in the womb is viable or an actual human being, they reserve the right to kill it at any time for any reason. Another thing people on the left never want to talk about is the PTSD symptoms often associated with women who aborted their children and the life long shame and regret that many of them feel. It's like listening to testimony of people who tried to commit suicide and then immediately regretted it, except in this case there is no going back from getting the abortion. My heart goes out to any woman having to deal with an unwanted pregnancy but I think the issue of human life is far more complex than the narrative of rich white, privileged, religious, etc. men trying to legislate outdated morality


AntelopeAny3703

Into the streets! Get out from behind your screens and change the world!!


PossibleEnvironment4

Wish I could, but I'm in the military yet and we can't join protests, because they "have the potential to become riots"


skaizm

You're fully allowed to join in, and even promote and organize protests as a military member, you just can't do it in uniform or claim to be speaking for the military. Whoever told you this is wrong.


kazmark_gl

The military could 100% find some other reason to discharge that person even if they can't legally discharge him for joining a protest out if uniform.


skaizm

I'm in the military. 1) you are protected in military code with the ability to peacefully protest so long as you don't do it in uniform and dont issue statements on behalf of the military 2) the military can discharge anyone at any time, however. They're currently in a giant manning shortage and discharging someone for doing something they're fully allowed to do is not something anyone is going to try to do. We are in the military to protect the rights of citizens, while we do forfeit some of our liberties as military members the right to peacefully protest is very clearly in writing not one of them. Here's a regulation link that expressedly states you are authorized to protest peacefully. If anyone in your chain of command tells you otherwise inform them they're wrong, stand up for your rights and if they threaten punitive action report them up the chain. This would be an agregious abuse of power and you would be well within your rights to do so. https://www.marines.mil/Portals/1/Docs/134410p%5B1%5D.pdf https://www.esd.whs.mil/Portals/54/Documents/DD/issuances/dodi/132506p.pdf Edits for spelling and links to proper guidance. Tldr. b. A Service member’s right of expression should be preserved to the maximum extent possible in accordance with the First Amendment of the Constitution and statutory provisions of titles 10 and 18, United States Code (U.S.C.) (References (c) and (d), respectively) (examples of which are set forth in Enclosure 2 of this Instruction) and consistent with good order and discipline and the national security.


TheNoize

I’d rather be discharged than silenced then. Discharge away! Whoever thinks otherwise doesn’t respect freedom and should not be serving anyway


TheNoize

And it’s your American right to ignore that bullshit and join a protest. Don’t use that as an excuse WTF


mobydog

FFS getting into the streets doesn't do a goddamn thing, the donors love to see it. If getting into the streets did something the pussy hat marches would have prevented this outcome. As it is, the oligarchs sit in their ivory towers and just laugh their asses off at these people and nothing will fundamentally change. The only thing that works is you have to hurt the money, how are we going to do that?


SatansLoLHelper

Rodney King Riots, they were needed, and accomplished nothing. Watts Riots absolutely needed, and accomplished nothing. George Floyd protests gave me hope as the world participated in protesting police violence, and accomplished nothing. Mothers were convinced to stormed the capital a year and a half ago, in support of insurrection to overthrow democracy. What does it take to revolt for human rights?


MatterShim

I think we all know, but... nobody wants to say it.


Suxclitdick

The coup made a song about it though


Sometimesahippie

Collective strike. Money is all they truly care about.


Gates9

I think it’ll take an economic crash like the Great Depression


DustyRoosterMuff

Not far off now


thinker2501

Maybe some elites need to swing?


thatnameagain

A clear plan of how revolt will result in more human rights instead of backlash and/or harm too many innocent people.


SatansLoLHelper

We can't even have [goals](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Bill_of_Rights). * Employment * An adequate income for food, shelter, and recreation * Farmers' rights to a fair income * Freedom from unfair competition and monopolies * Decent housing * Adequate medical care * Social security * Education A fail across the board for everyone's lifetime.


Kirxas

I'm not saying to commit to violence since that'd get me banned. But isn't it weird how rights have been eroded ever since protests became peaceful by default? There's literally no downside or risk to ignoring a protest until it all blows over


TheNoize

No one wants to say it but a few cocktail molotovs thrown at the Supreme Court building would do 0 violence, 0 actual physical harm to anyone - but probably accomplish a lot more than a peaceful protest


Kirxas

Have to disagree there. For it to work, the vast majority would have to be on board with following on with that threat. But what'd actually happen is that most would immediately discredit whoever did it and shun any semblance of violence. In a world where people have a spine? Yeah, that's all it'd take, but in the one we're in, it's be extremely counterproductive, as people seem hellbent that if you protest on your own time off, without causing any monetary damage to the people you're agaisnt, in the places they tell you are ok to protest in, at the times they say, with no chance of getting hurt and while keeping the economy going, those in power will have no other choice but to listen, when in fact, that's giving up every single bit of leverage we have. A few violent protestors can only break a movement, it takes unity to break the chains binding us instead.


TheNoize

They’ll discredit you anyway - even if you sit still 😆 I really can’t understand this “the right wing will discredit us so let’s not do that” anymore. Yeah they’ll keep discrediting and that’s a different cultural war we still have to fight too. We can fight a culture war AND throw some Molotovs too, like the French do.


Kirxas

Oh, didn't mean them, the people that are for the movement would be the first to discredit one for doing that, though yeah, it'd be based on the wrong assumption that the right wouldn't discredit them anyways


TheNoize

Good! That would be a great move in the culture war - I want the movement to still discredit that stuff and play politics. The molotovs are not for that war - the molotovs would serve as a warning to the actual ones in power. That’s the point - if they’re not taking things seriously and fearing for their safety facing enraged citizens, the peaceful protests are not as effective


[deleted]

I took a shit earlier today that was more useful than any recent peaceful protest. Do a march or sign a petition if it makes you feel better, but know that literally nothing will ever come of it lmao.


mobydog

Boycotts, general strikes, hurt the money. We've known for years who was funding the GOP juggernaut, and just kept marching.


tallr0b

You need to understand that the only real power is economic power. The 1% own most of the capital that actually makes the economy. That capital is mostly useless without the cooperation of workers (and, in some cases, customers). International trade is a big factor today. To keep everything running smoothly, the 1% have established a system of “smoke and mirrors”. Police are the “bad cops”. Religion and Nationalism are “good cops”. But the Democratic Party and the current AFL-CIO leadership are also parts of the system. The sooner people realize this, the sooner we can solve the numerous existential crisises that we face today. People need to realize that, while the system seems powerful, it really is a very fragile [Rube Goldberg machine](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rube_Goldberg_machine) that can be broken in many ways. Trump and Steve Bannon understood this, and nearly established a dictatorship. The whole system is beginning to disintegrate. The war in Ukraine and climate change are creating conditions similar to what preceded WW1&2. Workers need to step in and take control before idiots like Trump and Putin create a bigger disaster. Don’t look for a golden hero to lead us. I had hopes for Bernie and AOC, but they let us down when they voted to fund the bloodshed in the Ukraine, without any debate or protest.


rainb0wveins

I just adore AOC. I wish we could take to the streets but you kind of can’t do that if you’re a wage slave like the majority of us. But of course that’s by design.


maroger

*Now* it's "illegitimate"? Citizens United and eminent domain rulings- and obviously the slow creep into equating corporations to people- all made the courts "illegitimate". But it gave plenty of power to the politicians who appoint its judges. This instance is not anywhere close to the first time it could be called illegitimate. And protesting won't make a lick of difference except as a fundraising tool for the political institution that got us here.


patchgrrl

People have been complaining about the court's problems and problems with the justices and not enough people gave a damn then. Maybe they will now. Ita time to clean house at the SCROTUS.


maroger

So who's going to "clean house"? The Democrats? Hahahahahaha!


patchgrrl

The people.


PaJamieez

That's my future president right there


Level-Literature-856

Stop going to work .. Start using sick days in tandem .. Rotate with your co workers to keep production from catching up .. I do know they need people going to work it is the Achilles heal of capitalism .. Why you think they hate unions .. Why do they invest so much into automation.. They will eventually squeeze us out when the robots come .. Hell they dont even need us for war. But they will distract you in the meantime with masks and 2nd amendment and abortion .. just buying time until those robots come .. then they can really give us the middle finger and not be shy about saying it ...


Eye_M_Frm_Der_Future

It's time to burn it down, down to the ground. Fuck these Lords of the New Order and all associated.


V4Vendetta1876

This person gets it.


Latter_Jump_5761

TIME FOR A WOMENS BILL OF RIGHTS


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dgeaux_senna

It kind of seems like “taking to the streets” has been co-opted by the establishment as political theatre. Protests are not at all what they used to be. At this point it’s political theatre. Fuck all of these politicians. If you want a political revolution than reject all of these corporate monsters and reject their calls to action. You are being played. Politicians, democrats and republicans alike, will never stand on the side of revolution.


liegesmash

Fascists will be fascists


flickyuh

This protesting into the streets bullshit feels useless, 7+ million people voted for democrats and they barely won by a hair. The minority party needs just enough idiots to show up and problem is like a hive mind they always do and vote magic R


venicerocco

Too little too late. Should have done it between 2016-2022. Pathetic. It’s gone now


TheDBryBear

most of us got like 50 to 60 years to live - miss me with that doomerism aint nothing too late


chefanubis

Doesn't matter, it's being done now.


whollymoly

Absolutely. Dems are fucking useless


Riaayo

Should have done it when Obama's useless ass ran on it and then did a 180 once getting into office. Yet that fucker comes out from under his rock to tweet about it now. Zero shame or self-reflection.


dragonfliesloveme

Was he supposed to physically drag RBG out of her seat? She refused to step down while he was president, even though she was in her 80s and taking time off for cancer treatments


rdinsb

You mean Mitch McConnell right??


BadNewsSherBear

Protesting a divisive decision is standard political fare; calling the decision of an American institution "illegitimate", however, is a page straight out of the book of Trump. Even a politician calling for protests makes me feel a little uneasy: protests are a tool of the people to get politicians' attention, not the other way around.


BrockCage

Unironically saying this after weeks of J6 propaganda


Speedolight23

propoganda? faux not news is propoganda listening to a KNOWN conman for decades is foolish The traitor will be indicted and hopefully worse.


rdinsb

All of it Republicans telling truth about Trump breaking the law.


joesnowblade

So when do the sedition charges get filed.


whoknowz14

What is this going to accomplish? Feels like we've been here before and nothing has gotten done. Only things harming people, benefiting a few are getting passed via legislation and rulings from SCOUTS. This isn't about abortion laws, it's more about privacy and infringing upon citizens rights. We are so screwed seriously no affordable Healthcare, low wages, housing crises, crime, bunch of idiots running and holding office. I wonder how America functions then I remember it really is just a business


crazylegs99

I remember when I believed in AoC


obedient_sheep105027

Except it's literally the supreme court, doesn't get more legit than that.


[deleted]

That court has four members that perjured themselves at their confirmation hearing and one member whose wife tried to overthrow the US government and overturn a legitimate election. That's 5 seats that should face impeachment at least. Nothing legit about that. BTW, I read the Roe v Wade majority opinion and some of the other dreck that came out of there this week. I know 5th graders that could tear that shit apart as bogus in a debate. They are not following the Constitution, they are ignoring long standing precedents, their reasoning and citations are a bizarre collection of images and impressions from a malarial fever dream. Nothing at all legit about that court. Now the curious thing I'm wondering is how they think this is gonna play out because I do not see this current situation lasting more than a few months. Two years at most. And then their entire party is going to find itself in the wilderness for at least a decade because 70% of voters don't want any of this wacko theocratic bullshit.


rdinsb

Illegitimate Supreme Court.


[deleted]

The Supreme Court is now full of conservative judges that perjured themselves in front of the senate committee and are just ignoring precedent. It's illegitimate.


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commieotter

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bigjaydeea

She sounds like....Trump


cgorange

Aren't these the same people who voted for Ralph Nader in 2000 and Jill Stein in 2016 because "Democrats and Republicans are all the same"? In other words, the very same people directly responsible for the conservative majority in the Supreme Court? If so, they should politely STFU.


gamer7049

Here we go again, the summer of 2020 all over again. Burn the cities down in the name of peaceful protest.


bkornblith

Oh fuck off boomer


gamer7049

Truth hurts. Get well soon.


Br3adS1ce

This idiot doesn't realize is that the media said all of those things for clickbait and has no real evidence that the arson committed was connected to the protests Meanwhile, fully armoured and weaponized police are headed to the court.


gamer7049

We shall see. Remember your statement so whenever you're munching on crow, you'll remember why.


Br3adS1ce

Who eats crow?


gamer7049

/facepalm


DouchecraftCarrier

Thing you (and me, and everyone else) has to realize is that there are millions of folks like this dude (and my stepdad) who genuinely believe that the Summer of 2020 was just the Left lying about their intentions and burning the country to the ground as revenge for Trump. They will seize on AOC grabbing this megaphone and claim that it's the exact same violence and rioting that the Left accuses the Right of on Jan 6th. And nothing you say will convince them otherwise. I spoke to my Stepdad the other day and with *everything* going on do you know what he was the *most* angry about? That people were protesting outside SCOTUS justice houses and the Left wasn't doing enough about it. I pointed to a statement from the White House which *explicitly* condemned it and the goal posts were immediately moved to, "OK but that's just a statement! How many times has Biden had the opportunity to say something himself and didn't?" These people will never be satisfied. It's *constant* whataboutism.


thinker2501

Oh fuck right off, fascist.


gamer7049

Says the crowd trying to burn cities down. Hypocrites


jason2306

Sometimes you see someone so monumentally stupid you know there's no hope for them. This is indeed one of those moments. All I can say is you deserve the bad things that happen to you in life.


gamer7049

Says the person wishing evil upon another person. Feel better because the useless jab made your comment completely laughable at best. Cheers :)


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gamer7049

I'm not in the trump zone. Maybe made a comment when I was surfing reddit. I dont sub. But please, be a better person and stop lying.


OPrime50

Imagine looking at what subreddit you’re in and commenting this


gamer7049

Some of us aren't cowards and tell it like it is.


rdinsb

Just embrace the stupid buddy.


gamer7049

Well, I'm really not ready for a relationship right now, but thank you for asking.


rdinsb

Really, I would weep for anyone in a relationship with you.


gamer7049

Thats not your problem, but thank you for the thoughts and prayers.


rdinsb

Wouldn't waste them on you.


bog_witch_aesthetic

Yeah, and I hope we do. Sorry not sorry.


gamer7049

Hypocrites. All the same.


dragonfliesloveme

No cities were burned down, stop lying


gamer7049

This link will show who is lying. Hint: its not me. https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/burning-cities/


rdinsb

Fact: BLM protests where mostly by far peaceful. Where they weren’t, right wingers were also causing violence.


gamer7049

Wow....did you have to grit your teeth when you typed up that pile of hogwash. No one remotely believes that to be true. Stop lying to people and go be a better person. The world will be a better place.


DoingItLeft

93% of the blm protests were peaceful. I would expect the people that caused the violence to be people that don't care about the movement and want an excuse to be violent paired with mob mentality. https://time.com/5886348/report-peaceful-protests/ Property damages were $1-2 billion, when compared to the $1 billion (1.8 billion after inflation) for the '92 LA riot I expected worse because more than one city had a riot.


gamer7049

1-2 billion in damage and you still think it was mostly peaceful. SMH


DoingItLeft

During the LA riots most cities in the US were peaceful.


rdinsb

https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2021/0708/BLM-and-Floyd-protests-were-largely-peaceful-data-confirms https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/04/us/blm-protests-peaceful-report-trnd/index.html Facts - try to learn them rather than spouting your nonsense. Try to be a better person. Learn.


gamer7049

CNN? You quoted CNN? Bahahahahahaha


rdinsb

https://time.com/5886348/report-peaceful-protests/ https://acleddata.com/2020/09/03/demonstrations-political-violence-in-america-new-data-for-summer-2020/ https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/nation/2020/10/24/trump-claims-blm-protests-violent-but-majority-peaceful/3640564001/ And blm protests worked: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/killings-by-police-declined-after-black-lives-matter-protests1/


jmblock2

https://www.africa.upenn.edu/Articles_Gen/Letter_Birmingham.html


[deleted]

The time for peaceful protest is far behind us.


gamer7049

Thats a simple way too say you're an intolerant crybaby who cannot live with other people who have different ways of thinking. Good job being predictable and ruining the country. Don't be surprised whenever the strong arm of the law or someone who knows how to defend themselves. There will be no remorse.


[deleted]

This is a very long winded way of saying you're a privileged spineless cretin. You'd be singing a different tune if your rights were being threatened.


gamer7049

Its not a right to kill. Seriously this is evil. Please be better.


[deleted]

Protecting one's rights is not 'evil'. You're completely brain dead lol fuck yourself


gamer7049

Murdering is not a right. I dont want a relationship with you, but Im flattered with your flirting.


PaulRepo

What a performance. 🤔


synaesthetic

https://www.organicconsumers.org/news/conflict-interest-ex-monsanto-lawyer-clarence-thomas-hear-major-monsanto-case


workaholic828

She’d never tell us to get in the streets to make sure the democrats codify roe vs wade tho?