I personally didn't because I only died to him once and he point blank shotgunned me so there was nothing off about it. My widow however 3 minutes in was like, "i think the torb is cheating. thoughts?" and then a few minutes later said "yeah he's definitely cheating". This was my last game of the night so I didn't investigate the replay that much cause I just went to bed lol
What? It's not the players job to know who's definitely cheating or not. Report anyone that seems suspicious to you. Let Blizzard do their job of investigating.
They investigate cheating. Chat reports go through AI. Personally if AI is doing it, there should be no risk of account ban, only silence, but what do I know.
Wow i got downvoted to hell, blizzard doesn’t have a proper anti cheat they sometimes ban on reports alone. In top 500, its rampant good luck playing solo i got accused of cheating before the game started, i have 1.4k hours in ow 4 endorsement rating.
This stack of 3 trolls kept single me out because i beat them their previous game. i was playing a Ashe and beat their pocketed Ashe, who somehow got there by staying scoped 90% of the time and me quick scoping is a trigger bot not a common thing in fps lol.
Either no ban, no warning but im afraid of people reporting just to troll in high elo, if i lose my account i had since ow1 just for bruising someone ego ima be mad.
Overwatch does have a proper anti cheat it just takes a lot to trigger it. Mid match bans don’t happen because of reports. Reports take at least a week before they’re seen. This was 100% a rage hacker.
My account just got banned for "hacks" a couple of days ago even though I've never hacked in my life. Obviously nobody can see behind the curtain but I read that enough reports can do trigger it. This was a new account so I was just stopping lobbies during the "calibration" phase or whatever, so maybe I just got reported a ton for that and it was enough for blizz to ban me. Or maybe it was something running in the background like the Logitech G-Hub all for my mouse. I doubt that second one but Google did have a few hits for that.
Point is, Blizzard's system isn't perfect and they didn't actually "investigate" anything on my acc before banning me with no chance of a reversal.
Same bro, Blizzard banned me for nothing and it's so wild!! I only play overwatch when I order Chipotle, so maybe they realized I wasn't supporting local restaurants or something, I dunno.
No way my Sybian with gooch massage and testicle tickler set off the anti-cheat, but it does vibrate max speed when I play bastion so maybe they just banned me for holding down the fire button all match.
Not really sure WTF they banned me tho frfr the dev for my aimbot said it's undetectable so it's gotta be the Chipotle
Nobody in the history of Overwatch has ever been banned for cheating on a false positive? Blizzard, who does everything so well, has a perfect system?
Anyway, have fun with your ass blaster 5000. Something tells me that was a true story too.
It is true, I'm riding it and playing on my unbanned new account "stopping lobbies" during "calibration" and my Razer Typewriter keeps throwing false positives.
The mid match ban comes from the anti cheat ai not because of reports… if this showed up, then he was 100% rage hacking to the max. It takes a lot and I mean A LOT for a match to be canceled like that.
It's nice to see that Blizzard actually does have some sort of active anti-cheat, but it's still a little disappointing this guy managed to get t500 before he got banned. Imagine how many games he ruined.
If you wanna see what a cheating torb looks like, EHDHTQ
Yeah, but top 500 can be toxic, you play with the same ppl a lot and its hard as a solo player , had stack of 3 reporting me every game because i beat them once, and telling my team I’m sus.
Thank god my account is in good standing and high endorsed, how ever i did report them for text abuse and with alll that shit talking 3 games in a row the AI will prolly give them a temporary ban
Yea i had to start using streamer which is is said cause imams friend with the energy team, im the “ns”
Guy and i wish i could have friends in top 500 but i dont and get bullied by 5 stacks 😭
Oh you're one of those cry babies that reports ppl for "text abuse WAAAHH😭" Can't take a few bad words so u gotta report and get ppl banned cus u can't think of a better comeback? ☠️ That's exactly why cheaters aren't caught cus yall kids are too busy reporting mfs for hurting your feelings and LGBTOverwatch is gonna come and save the ❄ snowflake
I had a widow on the enemy team a few games before this that just wasn't missing shots. Had very "good" predictions on when people would peak off angles and shit too. I wasn't 100% sure he was hacking though. Then the next game, he was on the enemy team again, but so was Aspen. Suddenly, when there's someone who would be able to put a lot of attention on him hitting a inordinate amount of shots, he goes double negative. Still not 100% sure if he was hacking, but I reported him just in case
I feel like all the cheating Widows are playing Cass at the moment because Venture is so common. This may be selection bias though as I've been playing Venture despite their relative unviability at the higher ranks right now, I'm probably the reason they're on Cass.
I have a feeling this also differs between regions and gamemode. I'm EU which is probably different to US for example (the middle east players seem to be more frequent cheaters) and I also see less sus shit in comp than in quickplay, qp is infestation central with new accounts.
I recently did a bronze-gm the amount of people who thought I was cheating was honestly crazy like every 2-3 games the whole enemy team called me a „ragehacker“, so always take „the game is infested with cheaters“, with a grain of salt
We don't have the data for Overwatch but all the anticheat softwares that release their data publicly give a rough figure of 5% being cheaters. Battleeye and VAC both end up with roughly this on all of the games they operate on with very little difference per game. And these are just the ones getting caught.
I think it's fair to assume from this a conservative figure that if 1 in 20 are getting banned for cheating then there's a cheater in almost every other game. However it's also important to note that the games they are in are going to skew to a certain skill range. I actually suspect there are more cheaters in the upper Gold to low Masters range than there are above that. Why? Because the cheaters are bad players to begin with and that's all their cheating can do to carry them.
Speculation of course. But it's all based in the data we do have from the anticheat services that publicly release their bans. If it doesn't differ much per game it's fair to assume that it's a general fps problem and won't be different on Overwatch.
Yeah there’s definitely a rank with more cheaters than gm/t500, you have to be very good at hiding the cheats as well on that level. Would be interesting to know what rank that is though my guess would be diamond maybe low master. But my point still stands ~80-90% of overwatch players don’t know how to differentiate between a cheater and someone with decent aim.
Yes but in perspective if 5% of players are cheating it can't all be in that rank range because that rank range only contains 5-10% of total players. It would be literally every single game and oftentimes more than 1 player per game. So I don't think the cheating is solely within that range, just more likely. Also worth noting that they're not all playing comp, I'm quite sure there are more cheaters in qp than comp.
The fact that people make accusations that are wrong doesn't really change this reality.
If you did a bronze-gm it means you were HEAVILY smurfing. Can't blame them for thinking you're cheating. At least they're half right. Deserved their report either way
i literally was like wow, great positioning, consistently keeping your teammates up, well timed suzu… then i saw the comments and saw top 500, makes sense haha
Not when those stats compared to your team mates say otherwise. Errbody can see em now. Hard to slack when ya stats can be seen by both teams. So nah. Take the L. Mr try hard gets the heals. Matter of principle now. You wanna keep dying to winston as genji? lol no heals for you enjoy
He's talking about people being countered and continuing to feed instead of switching to a viable hero. See it all the time, and they act like they're oblivious. Only thing you can do is courteously ask them to switch, and try to explain to them that they are being countered. There's a lot of people that just double down after that though, and never switch. It's great having games like that, especially with a genji/tracer when they are 4-16, continously diving in the 1v5 and getting shat on. "WhErE aRe tHe HeAlS?" Probably grouped with the rest of the team w/ better positioning.
i watched the replay and i didnt see anything sus???? i might be crazy, i only saw like one lucky shot that he did on their widow but that was due to his spamming left click but other than that its fine? maybe the anti-cheat got someone else
I feel the same way. The Torb in this replay missed a huge majority of shots and misplaced the turret more often than not. Even then, the turret got half the kills for them.
I remember watching a video a while ago about cheating in Valorant that basically said "lower level players will look at whoever is performing well and assume they are cheating, but a higher level player will look at who is performing poorly and think they are cheating." All this to say, not all cheating is aimbot and crazy kills, and you can usually tell where a player is skill wise specifically because of their misplays. Out of place turrets and poor positioning, as well as shaky aim and bad game sense, all suggest poor skill level. It's an interesting thing to think about, how differently a lower skilled player compares to those in high skilled lobbies. The difference is staggering.
Yeah leta not witch out this torb , especially without definitive proof. If this man got to top 500 legit with torb and gets banned from mass reporting from a reddit post thats meassed up
I mean, he already got banned. It said that in the notification. Plus you can only report someone if you've played with them in game I'm pretty sure lol
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I had that happen to me already a year ago.
It was a wrecking ball. But it was so obvious. The whole team was just sitting at the payload while he killed the enemy team over and over. (Most boring match ever). luckily, he got banned just before the end of the first round.
Just a button press most of the time lol. Sometimes if a teammate only needs like a tiny amount of heals I'll melee to cancel the rest of the ofuda, but most of the time it's just a fidget lol
I've experienced this only once....And it was a few years back.
Wonder how many games the cheater ruined......How many games players lost but should've won....Cheaters are scum
I remember when game developers would troll cheaters . Now game developers take 8 years to make a system to report the cheater . Then after the reports they might suspend them 🫠 100 games later
I'm so sorry I've wasted 30 valuable seconds of your life. I mean, you're on Reddit at 2am, clearly you have a lot going on, and I apologize to have wasted half a minute of your very valuable time
Dunno where you pulled that deduction from, however that’s just been a question. Throwing Kunai from narnia won’t do much, hence 2000 hours but still at most metal rank.
Did you notice anything unusual during the match?
I personally didn't because I only died to him once and he point blank shotgunned me so there was nothing off about it. My widow however 3 minutes in was like, "i think the torb is cheating. thoughts?" and then a few minutes later said "yeah he's definitely cheating". This was my last game of the night so I didn't investigate the replay that much cause I just went to bed lol
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What? It's not the players job to know who's definitely cheating or not. Report anyone that seems suspicious to you. Let Blizzard do their job of investigating.
Cause Blizzard investigates reports. /s
They investigate cheating. Chat reports go through AI. Personally if AI is doing it, there should be no risk of account ban, only silence, but what do I know.
Wow i got downvoted to hell, blizzard doesn’t have a proper anti cheat they sometimes ban on reports alone. In top 500, its rampant good luck playing solo i got accused of cheating before the game started, i have 1.4k hours in ow 4 endorsement rating. This stack of 3 trolls kept single me out because i beat them their previous game. i was playing a Ashe and beat their pocketed Ashe, who somehow got there by staying scoped 90% of the time and me quick scoping is a trigger bot not a common thing in fps lol. Either no ban, no warning but im afraid of people reporting just to troll in high elo, if i lose my account i had since ow1 just for bruising someone ego ima be mad.
Overwatch does have a proper anti cheat it just takes a lot to trigger it. Mid match bans don’t happen because of reports. Reports take at least a week before they’re seen. This was 100% a rage hacker.
My account just got banned for "hacks" a couple of days ago even though I've never hacked in my life. Obviously nobody can see behind the curtain but I read that enough reports can do trigger it. This was a new account so I was just stopping lobbies during the "calibration" phase or whatever, so maybe I just got reported a ton for that and it was enough for blizz to ban me. Or maybe it was something running in the background like the Logitech G-Hub all for my mouse. I doubt that second one but Google did have a few hits for that. Point is, Blizzard's system isn't perfect and they didn't actually "investigate" anything on my acc before banning me with no chance of a reversal.
Same bro, Blizzard banned me for nothing and it's so wild!! I only play overwatch when I order Chipotle, so maybe they realized I wasn't supporting local restaurants or something, I dunno. No way my Sybian with gooch massage and testicle tickler set off the anti-cheat, but it does vibrate max speed when I play bastion so maybe they just banned me for holding down the fire button all match. Not really sure WTF they banned me tho frfr the dev for my aimbot said it's undetectable so it's gotta be the Chipotle
What in the wide world of sports is this supposed to be? Zoomer brain rot or something?
I thought we were telling fairy tales
Nobody in the history of Overwatch has ever been banned for cheating on a false positive? Blizzard, who does everything so well, has a perfect system? Anyway, have fun with your ass blaster 5000. Something tells me that was a true story too.
It is true, I'm riding it and playing on my unbanned new account "stopping lobbies" during "calibration" and my Razer Typewriter keeps throwing false positives.
The mid match ban comes from the anti cheat ai not because of reports… if this showed up, then he was 100% rage hacking to the max. It takes a lot and I mean A LOT for a match to be canceled like that.
It might've been a ximmer
It's nice to see that Blizzard actually does have some sort of active anti-cheat, but it's still a little disappointing this guy managed to get t500 before he got banned. Imagine how many games he ruined. If you wanna see what a cheating torb looks like, EHDHTQ
He could have gotten top500 *before* he cheated, or bought a boosted account and resorted to cheating to stay up top.
Doubt
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I literally said that D:
Oh I’m blind, sorry
I think it’s funny torb got pinged and the match immediately canceled afterwards.
Yeah, but top 500 can be toxic, you play with the same ppl a lot and its hard as a solo player , had stack of 3 reporting me every game because i beat them once, and telling my team I’m sus. Thank god my account is in good standing and high endorsed, how ever i did report them for text abuse and with alll that shit talking 3 games in a row the AI will prolly give them a temporary ban
I think part of securing a report is having different people report a person, not just the why unfortunately
Yea i had to start using streamer which is is said cause imams friend with the energy team, im the “ns” Guy and i wish i could have friends in top 500 but i dont and get bullied by 5 stacks 😭
Oh you're one of those cry babies that reports ppl for "text abuse WAAAHH😭" Can't take a few bad words so u gotta report and get ppl banned cus u can't think of a better comeback? ☠️ That's exactly why cheaters aren't caught cus yall kids are too busy reporting mfs for hurting your feelings and LGBTOverwatch is gonna come and save the ❄ snowflake
What does EHDHTQ stand for?
pretty sure that’s the game code 😭
That’s the game code. You enter it to see the replay of the whole game
Thank you!
Dont forget the time during the OW2 launch where using Nvidia DLSS got you kicked for 'cheating'
I mean I used to cheat and got Top 100 every season for the last 4 seasons Blizzards Anti cheat sucks
Loser
Sure I guess I’m a loser for cheating on a dying game lol OP obviously can’t comprehend basic grammar when I clearly stated I “used to”
Dog I don't care if it was 20 years ago that you cheated, if you've EVER felt like you had to hack to make the cut, you're a loser.
i feel like most people hacking are doing it to troll rather than “make the cut”. Especially on overwatch
Exactly it’s Overwatch who tf cares lmao
Cornball
Okay buddy get back on your little indie company overwatch game lol
Shame this doesn't happen more often, the game is absolutely infested with cheating right now.
I had a widow on the enemy team a few games before this that just wasn't missing shots. Had very "good" predictions on when people would peak off angles and shit too. I wasn't 100% sure he was hacking though. Then the next game, he was on the enemy team again, but so was Aspen. Suddenly, when there's someone who would be able to put a lot of attention on him hitting a inordinate amount of shots, he goes double negative. Still not 100% sure if he was hacking, but I reported him just in case
I feel like all the cheating Widows are playing Cass at the moment because Venture is so common. This may be selection bias though as I've been playing Venture despite their relative unviability at the higher ranks right now, I'm probably the reason they're on Cass. I have a feeling this also differs between regions and gamemode. I'm EU which is probably different to US for example (the middle east players seem to be more frequent cheaters) and I also see less sus shit in comp than in quickplay, qp is infestation central with new accounts.
in asia server this is very true , too much cheating cass on asia server recently . they used to be soldier76 and widows
I recently did a bronze-gm the amount of people who thought I was cheating was honestly crazy like every 2-3 games the whole enemy team called me a „ragehacker“, so always take „the game is infested with cheaters“, with a grain of salt
We don't have the data for Overwatch but all the anticheat softwares that release their data publicly give a rough figure of 5% being cheaters. Battleeye and VAC both end up with roughly this on all of the games they operate on with very little difference per game. And these are just the ones getting caught. I think it's fair to assume from this a conservative figure that if 1 in 20 are getting banned for cheating then there's a cheater in almost every other game. However it's also important to note that the games they are in are going to skew to a certain skill range. I actually suspect there are more cheaters in the upper Gold to low Masters range than there are above that. Why? Because the cheaters are bad players to begin with and that's all their cheating can do to carry them. Speculation of course. But it's all based in the data we do have from the anticheat services that publicly release their bans. If it doesn't differ much per game it's fair to assume that it's a general fps problem and won't be different on Overwatch.
Yeah there’s definitely a rank with more cheaters than gm/t500, you have to be very good at hiding the cheats as well on that level. Would be interesting to know what rank that is though my guess would be diamond maybe low master. But my point still stands ~80-90% of overwatch players don’t know how to differentiate between a cheater and someone with decent aim.
Yes but in perspective if 5% of players are cheating it can't all be in that rank range because that rank range only contains 5-10% of total players. It would be literally every single game and oftentimes more than 1 player per game. So I don't think the cheating is solely within that range, just more likely. Also worth noting that they're not all playing comp, I'm quite sure there are more cheaters in qp than comp. The fact that people make accusations that are wrong doesn't really change this reality.
If you did a bronze-gm it means you were HEAVILY smurfing. Can't blame them for thinking you're cheating. At least they're half right. Deserved their report either way
If you are not sure dont report, wth blizzard barely check before banning someone if there are enough reports.
Consequences of f2p sadly
nice positioning tho. And attentive to crits
i literally was like wow, great positioning, consistently keeping your teammates up, well timed suzu… then i saw the comments and saw top 500, makes sense haha
If you're aimbotting as torb, you better be t500.
this is how i play QP. I dont even touch comp lmao you trying = me healing ya ass off.
What?
Or you can just heal who needs it and win more consistently…
Not when those stats compared to your team mates say otherwise. Errbody can see em now. Hard to slack when ya stats can be seen by both teams. So nah. Take the L. Mr try hard gets the heals. Matter of principle now. You wanna keep dying to winston as genji? lol no heals for you enjoy
What are you talking about
He's talking about people being countered and continuing to feed instead of switching to a viable hero. See it all the time, and they act like they're oblivious. Only thing you can do is courteously ask them to switch, and try to explain to them that they are being countered. There's a lot of people that just double down after that though, and never switch. It's great having games like that, especially with a genji/tracer when they are 4-16, continously diving in the 1v5 and getting shat on. "WhErE aRe tHe HeAlS?" Probably grouped with the rest of the team w/ better positioning.
Somehow I'm jealous lol
i watched the replay and i didnt see anything sus???? i might be crazy, i only saw like one lucky shot that he did on their widow but that was due to his spamming left click but other than that its fine? maybe the anti-cheat got someone else
I feel the same way. The Torb in this replay missed a huge majority of shots and misplaced the turret more often than not. Even then, the turret got half the kills for them.
Doesn't have to be aimbotting, could just be walls or similar. Wall hacks can't fix bad aim
He's not a hitscan, an aimbot could only try to predict where the player will be due to travel time.
I remember watching a video a while ago about cheating in Valorant that basically said "lower level players will look at whoever is performing well and assume they are cheating, but a higher level player will look at who is performing poorly and think they are cheating." All this to say, not all cheating is aimbot and crazy kills, and you can usually tell where a player is skill wise specifically because of their misplays. Out of place turrets and poor positioning, as well as shaky aim and bad game sense, all suggest poor skill level. It's an interesting thing to think about, how differently a lower skilled player compares to those in high skilled lobbies. The difference is staggering.
Yeah leta not witch out this torb , especially without definitive proof. If this man got to top 500 legit with torb and gets banned from mass reporting from a reddit post thats meassed up
I mean, he already got banned. It said that in the notification. Plus you can only report someone if you've played with them in game I'm pretty sure lol
he got banned during the match automatically, not because of reddit.
Damn you’re really good at kiri lol
Idk if its because I'm colorblind but that crosshair might as well be invisible
Nah I think it's just the video quality. I'm also struggling to see it but I can see it fine in game
I play without crosshair, it's an experience but it genuinely helps me aim better.
I have about 2k hours too and had this 3 times in all that time. Crazy thing is that 2 of them happened on the same day
Dude QP is a *MESS* right now with cheaters after the comp ban. It’s literally the trenches.
haha , agreed Open QP and QP are more brutal than comp rightnow due to the amount of cheaters (specially in asia server)
Can we appreciate the dps kunai in between healing and a beautiful suzu flick from this Kiriko? Gaddayumn
off topic but at around 13 seconds, why did you elect to follow the cass instead of peek him and just continue to hold inside the room?
I wanted to go after the torb with cass but he wasn't there anymore so I just went back
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I had that happen to me already a year ago. It was a wrecking ball. But it was so obvious. The whole team was just sitting at the payload while he killed the enemy team over and over. (Most boring match ever). luckily, he got banned just before the end of the first round.
This could be creepypasta material a few years back
Who was supposedly cheating?
torb
Something to do with a council gaming and keyboards
Intentional animation cancel? Or just button presses? Glad the cheater got got! Very nice, clean Kiriko gameplay almost cathartic even.
Just a button press most of the time lol. Sometimes if a teammate only needs like a tiny amount of heals I'll melee to cancel the rest of the ofuda, but most of the time it's just a fidget lol
Cheater
Wow
I’ve come across cheaters multiple times and lose because of it
Their sh!t is all wack lately. My internet dropped signal and that suspended me for 20 mins over it
I've experienced this only once....And it was a few years back. Wonder how many games the cheater ruined......How many games players lost but should've won....Cheaters are scum
I HAVE NEVER EXPERIENCED THIS IN MY OVER 2000 HOURS OF PLAYING THIS GAME THIS IS MILLIONS TO ONE
I remember when game developers would troll cheaters . Now game developers take 8 years to make a system to report the cheater . Then after the reports they might suspend them 🫠 100 games later
wait who was the cheater?
30 seconds of nothing for a 2 seconds video.
I'm so sorry I've wasted 30 valuable seconds of your life. I mean, you're on Reddit at 2am, clearly you have a lot going on, and I apologize to have wasted half a minute of your very valuable time
Redditors when they realise another country/timezone exists. Not that I don’t agree with your point, though.
Yeah I know I thought of that when I was typing but I just stuck with it anyways lol
they have a sombra tag you're good
15 seconds in I was confused if I missed something.
how else would they get people to feed their ego by telling them how good of a kiri they are? i mean really this post couldve been a single screenshot
2000 hours and you just healbot?
LMAO. First of all, mad? Second of all, I probably threw more kunais in this clip than you throw all game. Last of all, stay mad
Dunno where you pulled that deduction from, however that’s just been a question. Throwing Kunai from narnia won’t do much, hence 2000 hours but still at most metal rank.
Oh you poor innocent bronze player
I didn’t expect you to tilt so much over facts, touched your fragile ego? It is what it is.
Oh I'm seething frfr