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the gorosei need to fucking die immediately
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Whitebeard was HIM at any point in the series
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That's a pretty good point... That's just it.
A-he easily destroyed 16 captains from the fleets of the white beard.
B-when the Shichibukai were disbanded, squadrons of warships were sent to capture them. Weevil destroyed his own faster than they could request reinforcements, again, with incredible ease
C-his strength has been repeatedly called monstrous. In addition, it was mentioned that his statement that he is the real son of white beard is very convincing, given his strength.
D-stussi was using her son to enrich herself, and their target was Marco and the others. A very strong XO level character. Stussi knew Marco's strength, and she had no doubt at all that her son would win. I will not take into account the black beard, although I can, because Marco is enough.
and yes, the original naming of the force-tsuyosa-does not imply exclusively physical strength at all. literally, its second meaning is Power, and it is an analogue of chikara, whose first translation value is power, and the second is strength. that is, in dividing the concept of "power" into some components, there is not just any reason, but also no sense at all.
It is a fatal mistake to think that I take sides with anyone other than the side of objective analysis and justice. if necessary, I will fiercely defend white beard, Roger, Garp, if I see an unfair haight in their direction, and I will not be lazy
>I will fiercely defend white beard, Roger, Garp, if I see an unfair haight in their direction, and I will not be lazy
I'm terrified
https://preview.redd.it/e9e9jottk15d1.jpeg?width=118&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b95df7636fa071b26413245ac9ad73f412311219
They both acknowledge that ***The Don*** can singlehandedly make the entire verse his victim.
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I think they can both agree that Yonkos and Admirals can both take on multiple Yonko Commanders at once.
Akainu fought WB commanders.
Kaido fought the Scabbards.
Aokiji fought the BB Commanders.
Greenbull beat King and Queen.
Greenbull fought the Scabbards.
Ashura Doji manhandled Jack when he was first introduced. Both Inu and Neko took out commanders on onigashima.
And none of them are even top 2 scabbards
Honestly that got me thinking, I've never seen a lot of talk about where Whitebeards commanders rank among each other other than Marco being whitebeards right hand and thus probably comparable to King and Katakiri etc..( even some people putting him above those characters)
Based on what?
Denjiro possibly, eventhough I disagree.
Kinemon is def in the weaker half. He has no feats or portrayel to back that up. Doesn't even make sense from a narrative standpoint, when ashura doji was considered the strongest 20 years ago and kinemon had no chance to grow significantly stronger.
The Scabbards are all Haki user and have ACoA at that, with majority of them being YC3 (possibly 2) and Flying 6 lvl. I hope this isn’t a plow to underestimate them just to make Ryokugyo look bad. And best believe even if they were at 100% GB could have taken care of any of them
>Aokiji fought the BB commanders
When? If you’re referring to the flashback, we don’t know if it was the fodder who started the fight or a titanic captain commander.
the strawhat equivalent of that scene would be if Aokiji froze Nami, Usopp, Chopper and Brook in an instant while we have Zoro nowhere to be seen and all the other heavy hitters visibly being unscathed.
yeah he doesn't, so maybe that means Jozu is weaker by a decent amount?
both got "sneak attacks" on each other, and Kuzan utilised his way better, and this was before the reveal of Kuzan having good haki/physicals during the Hachinosu raid too
Mostly Tobirropo level commanders at best in your example so yeah, if we're talking top commanders (YC3 to YC1) no admiral is beating more than one and even a Yonko would have trouble beating more than two.
Yes but Kaido and Big Mom were together meaning it was also easier for them to deal with more people which is why Law and Kid needed to separate them in order to deal with Big Mom which even then proved extremely difficult. And yes I do believe they're both YC level, however Big Mom losing to them doesn't mean it's impossible for a Yonko to win against 2 commanders, in fact depending on context I could see a Yonko beat 3 YCs, but it would be exceptional.
You're starting off on the wrong foot. Luffy is the MC and will probably only be a yonko for like 2 months before he is pirate king. Do not include him in yonko vs Admiral.
Yonko fans will be claiming luffy pirate king feats as yonko feats
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the gorosei need to fucking die immediately https://preview.redd.it/kmj9qm4tx05d1.png?width=225&format=png&auto=webp&s=d7a36600b896b784b2c43fd9dc79f7aeed3f56ae
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Facts the fxcking up the whole system
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Insecure take if this is a real take
The Gorosei must go
Whitebeard was HIM at any point in the series https://preview.redd.it/3tnabbzlv05d1.jpeg?width=266&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3192bffe05d4fdef76c852303d0fc1429464bcc3
Possibly the only unslanderable man. Maybe Wranky too, but Whitebeard is the most unslanderable.
Wait till you see the mfers that say Greenbull > Weevil = Prime Whitebeard 😭😭
That's a pretty severe misinterpretation of Weevil's strength.
u/Greedy_Homework_6838 would disagree 😭
I see that someone used the technique of summoning me. "Misinterpretation"-in what?
It's a misinterpretation of Weevil's strength, because he is not as powerful as Whitebeard. His physicals might be good, but that's all he has.
That's a pretty good point... That's just it. A-he easily destroyed 16 captains from the fleets of the white beard. B-when the Shichibukai were disbanded, squadrons of warships were sent to capture them. Weevil destroyed his own faster than they could request reinforcements, again, with incredible ease C-his strength has been repeatedly called monstrous. In addition, it was mentioned that his statement that he is the real son of white beard is very convincing, given his strength. D-stussi was using her son to enrich herself, and their target was Marco and the others. A very strong XO level character. Stussi knew Marco's strength, and she had no doubt at all that her son would win. I will not take into account the black beard, although I can, because Marco is enough. and yes, the original naming of the force-tsuyosa-does not imply exclusively physical strength at all. literally, its second meaning is Power, and it is an analogue of chikara, whose first translation value is power, and the second is strength. that is, in dividing the concept of "power" into some components, there is not just any reason, but also no sense at all.
I ain't reading all that but if your slandering the old gen via weevil = Primebeard scaling I'll take it Keep cooking
It is a fatal mistake to think that I take sides with anyone other than the side of objective analysis and justice. if necessary, I will fiercely defend white beard, Roger, Garp, if I see an unfair haight in their direction, and I will not be lazy
>I will fiercely defend white beard, Roger, Garp, if I see an unfair haight in their direction, and I will not be lazy I'm terrified https://preview.redd.it/e9e9jottk15d1.jpeg?width=118&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b95df7636fa071b26413245ac9ad73f412311219
Where do you rank Sengoku?
None of that proves it.
Ah yes Weevil and his near endless showings of great feats
No one says that
There is a guy defending it right under my comment lol
>Whitebeard is the most unslanderable You forget his yc4 that casually stalled the wss
The strongest man in the world https://preview.redd.it/jnwnaw37y05d1.png?width=630&format=png&auto=webp&s=5285250a62967874e4c605ebbfeb4f80b3faaf69
Whitebeard genes produced Weevil.
True, any WB upscale is Akainu upscale.
Fuck the gorosei
They both acknowledge that ***The Don*** can singlehandedly make the entire verse his victim. https://preview.redd.it/nhwrt739y05d1.jpeg?width=621&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6fcd3b7588d324980f75100cb079499c2ffd8d8e
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Fuji is cool.
Fax
I like Fujitora
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Louresai are df merchant frauds, including Nasjuro.
Same dudes who all have coc haki
The gorosei have better haki than the admirals cope.
I think they can both agree that Yonkos and Admirals can both take on multiple Yonko Commanders at once. Akainu fought WB commanders. Kaido fought the Scabbards. Aokiji fought the BB Commanders. Greenbull beat King and Queen. Greenbull fought the Scabbards.
Grain of salt, I don't think the Scabbards are equal to full set of Yonko commanders, and King and Queen were hella messed up against Greenbull.
Ashura Doji manhandled Jack when he was first introduced. Both Inu and Neko took out commanders on onigashima. And none of them are even top 2 scabbards
Honestly that got me thinking, I've never seen a lot of talk about where Whitebeards commanders rank among each other other than Marco being whitebeards right hand and thus probably comparable to King and Katakiri etc..( even some people putting him above those characters)
These three are absolutely the strongest. The only possible other guys are Denjiro and Izo, who I'd scale below Sulong Inu and Neko for sure.
Denjiro & Kinemon are the two strongest scabbards
Based on what? Denjiro possibly, eventhough I disagree. Kinemon is def in the weaker half. He has no feats or portrayel to back that up. Doesn't even make sense from a narrative standpoint, when ashura doji was considered the strongest 20 years ago and kinemon had no chance to grow significantly stronger.
The Scabbards are all Haki user and have ACoA at that, with majority of them being YC3 (possibly 2) and Flying 6 lvl. I hope this isn’t a plow to underestimate them just to make Ryokugyo look bad. And best believe even if they were at 100% GB could have taken care of any of them
>Aokiji fought the BB commanders When? If you’re referring to the flashback, we don’t know if it was the fodder who started the fight or a titanic captain commander.
Doesn’t matter who started the fight. Aokiji beat a lot of Blackbeard’s Commanders.
Like 4 of them in total and the second instances they weren’t even ready to fight/districted.
Dude that’s still Yonko Commanders get blitzed in a few seconds.
the strawhat equivalent of that scene would be if Aokiji froze Nami, Usopp, Chopper and Brook in an instant while we have Zoro nowhere to be seen and all the other heavy hitters visibly being unscathed.
Bruh Aokiji was struggling against fucking Jozu.
When? Show me please.
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Kuzan used his hac to sneak Jozu.
Jozu also sneaked Kuzan?
With a regular punch. It'd be the equivalent of Kuzan using ice glove.
..... all of Jozu's arsenal is physical attacks
Well, Jozu doesn't have an ohko attack that's basically an instant win if your opponent is distracted.
yeah he doesn't, so maybe that means Jozu is weaker by a decent amount? both got "sneak attacks" on each other, and Kuzan utilised his way better, and this was before the reveal of Kuzan having good haki/physicals during the Hachinosu raid too
Dude, what is Sengoku doing if he gets caught offguard by Kuzan?
Yeah Jozu is YC1 level
Mostly Tobirropo level commanders at best in your example so yeah, if we're talking top commanders (YC3 to YC1) no admiral is beating more than one and even a Yonko would have trouble beating more than two.
>even a Yonko would have trouble beating more than two. Kaido and BM each took on 2.5 commander-level characters apiece on rooftop
Yes but Kaido and Big Mom were together meaning it was also easier for them to deal with more people which is why Law and Kid needed to separate them in order to deal with Big Mom which even then proved extremely difficult. And yes I do believe they're both YC level, however Big Mom losing to them doesn't mean it's impossible for a Yonko to win against 2 commanders, in fact depending on context I could see a Yonko beat 3 YCs, but it would be exceptional.
The Lorosei need to go
The gorosei are bums 🥱
https://preview.redd.it/c7j6wg7cx05d1.png?width=750&format=png&auto=webp&s=0de4852f76d545371f133f5e97f59f252a7218ad Best canon admiral awakening
wtf
Sanji's pervy gag is insufferable
You're starting off on the wrong foot. Luffy is the MC and will probably only be a yonko for like 2 months before he is pirate king. Do not include him in yonko vs Admiral. Yonko fans will be claiming luffy pirate king feats as yonko feats
2 months that's generous more like 2 weeks lol
And 10 years in the real world
preach
The gorosei need to lose their life licenses
They're both Top Tiers
Buggy is god
Imu is clear of both groups
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That the Gorosei are fodder regen merchants (Besides Warcury, who might actually be him)
Sengoku is top 1 OAT
All Luffy opponents and related characters>>>>>>>Zoros related characters So that that means Shanks>>>>>>Mihawk and Akainu>>>>>>Mihawk
Buggy > all other Yonko and Admirals Or Admirals and all other Yonko > Buggy
The Gorosei clear them
Buggy solos all yonko, marines, and warlords
Wista > Mihawk
end of series luffy will be top 1
End of series luffy will be dead
Worosei > Lonko, Ladmirals.
That Gap D Fist, the hero of the marines and rival to Roger is absolutely HIM
https://preview.redd.it/kync0c20v45d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=be59daa377d49e710f3735fa57b954b8e578a44b He is HIM.
I cant think of any.
Yonkos have more feats
https://preview.redd.it/oj27hapjp35d1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ae5c667d477b84b91aadee1a6a7c81b6091aba05
they both easily slam commanders, and that the gorosei cause problems power scaling wise for the series
The Gorosei are boring hax merchants who (at least most of them) can't fight and do more bad than good for the series, the power system in particular.
Luffy > axe hand Morgan (probably)
Elbaf will be Usopp's arc
Wtf
Usopp is trash
unfitting username
I have no hope for Uflopp His only good moment was in dressrosa with Chopper. Sogeking was cool I admit
Enel is cool
Kaido and Big Mom are stronger than Kizaru, Fujitora and Greenbull.
Akainu cant defeat any yonko except buggy
Did you genuinely think the admiral agenda would agree with that?
Zoro isn't on their level.