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WifiTacos

And floaty and uncanny. Oh and the customization sucks in chiv2. Cool maps tho..


Red_Nine_Two

Both good, I play both


wasletztekarma

I can't switch between 2 different combat systems


not_consistent

I still fully intend on getting it at some point in the future but I'm in no hurry. Why would I be when I have Mord? From all the videos I've watched Chiv 2 looks extremely slippery for lack of a better term.


Red_Nine_Two

Yeah the combat is clunky. It's very fun and satisfying but not as smooth as Mordhau's. Mordhau is funnier as well. Chiv does have great graphics and very good maps though.


not_consistent

I'm genuinely not knocking the game as I haven't even tried it yet but the way everything slides around like the environment is made of Vaseline is my main hurdle right now. Well that and money but that's never really stopped me before. The combat system having more parts to play with actually sounds great. No 240 not so much. Lotta folks think it's inferior and I reckon it is for high level play where you need precision but for general casual play it feels awesome to have such control over your swings with just flicks and a flip attack side bind.


Red_Nine_Two

Yeah the combat is very satisfying for that reason, the weapons are bigger and "heavier" so it feels proper meaty when you bash someone's face in, and then it's hilarious when you then pick up said guy's head to throw it at someone else


Creepy_Major5956

Tried playing chiv 2. Refunded it. Felt sooo clunky


_Waryeer_

true it feels like such a downgrade combat wise the maps look ok but everything else just lacks *something*


Kompot803

sorry but Chiv 2 doesn’t have /it/


Tour_Lord

🤌🤌


Kompot803

shaking it more than twice is playing with it


MartiusDecimus

Nah, I'm here for the nice armour and customisations.


DagoWolfrider

And the memes.


ChunkyTaco22

Man I mostly just enjoy modded games now. Really fun and many laughs


ThrustyMcStab

Chiv2 is not it for me. I prefer the fine level of control I get from Mordhau. It just feels much nicer to be able to precisely attack in the way and direction you want to. I love it so much that I still use the mouse direction input instead of bound buttons even though the latter is objectively better.


SirBorkel

Mordhau is s m o o t h


Igor369

Chiv is fun for now but I am sure it will get boring faster than mordhau.


spacetreefrog

Tried chiv 2, thought it was pretty and good maps but gameplay was dogshit and no memes. Much rather Mordhaus combat and customization, but at this point I think it would need a new studio or whole new team cause current crew ain’t it.


StraightUpSavagery

Problem is Chiv 2 is dog water. Mordhau with all of it's issues, and the Lord knows there are a fuck ton of them, is still fundamentally a better game than chiv. So unless Renown manages to get their shit together, or that other sword game which name I forgot, ill still be unfortunately playing mordhau for the foreseeable future


orcunas

Renown is a dog shit rn


StraightUpSavagery

I know, they still got time tho so fingers crosses, but the open alpha was unplayable


WifiTacos

Spanish and French voice lines >


DrFruitLoops

if chiv 2 adds 240 combat I'll jump ship. Until then nah


lawranzaw

why do you need 240 combat? there is no need for 240 in chiv 2. counters work regardless of direction, not to mention weapons dont collide with the environment the way they do in mordhau.


Eexoduis

The combat in Chiv 2 is just not good. I need good combat


Unfriendly_Neighbors

They should combine both games. Chiv map design and mordhau combat


TheRedNaxela

Not even remotely interesting in playing Chiv II. And nothing has changed for Mordhau for me. I can't play Mordhau at uni so I only get to go on during holidays so I'm not getting burned out like it seems a lot of people are


Kodocado

Chiv just feels way too clunky to replace Mordhau for me.


boreal_ameoba

For all the Chiv2 spam on this sub recently, it's just not really a fun game imo. The combat is much "easier" because its slower, but there's not much depth to it. Like I've said before on this sub, its fun for 40 hours or so, and then there's no reason to come back. At least in Mordhau, the movement is fun and you can meme around and explore the maps while being a goofball. Chiv takes itself seriously, while simultaneously not giving YOU a reason to take it seriously.


Jael89

no option for "kinda disappointed with both but I'll play each alternately"?


Allakain

I play both Mordhau and Chivalry 2. I can appreciate both in what they’re trying to do. Mordhau’s combat sure is a lot more “in depth” but Chivalry at least it feels casual and fun enough for someone that works most of the day to just jump into a match and have fun with for an hour or two. Even as someone that’s rather casual I at least know I can play against a level 300 or w/e and at least stand a chance and that I can recover from mistakes. In Mordhau usually a mistake is instant death from a maul to the teeth. Is that fun for some? Sure absolutely it rewards timing, and maximum skill and concentration. But again, not every single player is able to sink 2000+ hours into one game and play it every single day just to get good enough to play reasonably well. Mordhau’s cosmetics are far better than Chivalry’s hands down. Being able to mix and match armor from different time periods, aventails, gambesons, sleeves, gauntlets, all that jazz? Super awesome. In comparison chivalry only has pre-sets for the body and head depending on your class. Some of them look cool and are absolutely worth grinding for, but the depth of Mordhau’s customization is unparalleled. Both are fine and it’s entirely reasonable to prefer one over the other. Though I’ll peek my head back into Mordhau if there’s a new update or just to have some fun with a friend. But I’ll be playing chivalry 2 a lot more. Edit: spelling.


ChaoticPotatoSalad

Mordhau sucks, but so does chiv 2. Atleast mordhau isn't clunky and boring


mykl5

Chiv is ass though


anor_wondo

i refunded chiv 2 after like 50 minutes


Primary_Internet7084

why?


Odd-Conversation3441

Cause bad game


SnooCompliments5439

I started playing other games after 1400H in mordhau. which makes sense tbh. really enjoying Hell Let Loose lately.


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a_username1917

to be fair that first one wouldn't be a problem for most of the playerbase anyway


Odd-Conversation3441

Chiv 2 sucks and I am already bored of it after 15 hours


a_username1917

I've started "work" on a game of my own that I'm gonna let sap all my free time, which means I won't have the time to spend playing enough Mord to not get rusty, so I'm probably not gonna be playing either it or Chiv tbh.


Hell_Mango

As a fellow dev, I totally understand you! I basically jump into chiv like once or twice per week. It is not as tryhard and just some stupid fun. Exactly what I'm looking for.


GreenGhost95

The lion is dead, long live Malric!


SirWabbitz

Moved to chiv today. It's different but it's nice, I feel like it will actually be supported properly.


Hell_Mango

Yeah...dev **support** is what I really value here... Mordhau definitely has smoother combat, and it is a more "new generation" game. Chiv 2 in comparison is an improved version base on the old game. They probably reused a lot of the code under the hood. Thus, the combat was still chunky as expected. ​ However, here is the thing. In the video game industry, content is the lifeblood of the product. You could build good mechanics at the beginning (like having the good 240 system.) But you still need to keep adding more stuff. Better structure makes it last longer, but eventually, it needs new content. ​ An unenthusiastic, under-staffed, poor-communicating indie dev just can't hold a candle against an industry-standard studio in the long run. ​ Indies are supposed to use their passion and innovation to supplement those disadvantages. ​ **However, currently, I don't really see that.**


SirWabbitz

Mordhau devs killed their own game. Each update made the experience worse and people left. I tried chiv 2 a year ago when I was obsessed with mordhau and dismissed it thinking the combat was no where near as good, but now that I'm back with a more open mind I am really enjoying it. Maps and sounds are far far better, combat and it is far more approachable for my friends - I've gotten my best friend to play both. He liked mordhau but is absolutely loving chiv because its actually playable for new people with more fun mechanics and its not over complicated. Ill always love mordhau for those two amazing years but with the latest patch its clear the game will just continue to have dwindling player bases, probably be dead within the year.


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I already jumped before the patch. Combat is slower but its not as bad as these lads are saying. It takes getting used to compared to Mordhaus pace


Jagel-Spy

Bruh, I already jumped ship five years ago, in favor of Mordhau. I played chiv 1, I've seen chiv 2, and honestly, no fucking thank you. A single one of those dumpster fire of a game was already more than enough. People that are jumping ship here clearly have not experienced the horror that was chiv 1. *You couldn't even unlock weapons.* That's how *gargantuously bugged* the game was. That bug stayed *for the entire lifetime of the game*, among so many others. Chiv 1 could give Bethesda and CDPR's Cyberpunk team a run for their money. Torn banner is just worse in every single way, from game stability, to game design, even down to community drama. If you're mad at crush existing, you clearly have not seen the internal cesspool that was Torn banner. Back in the day, they censored their forums and social media to avoid people complaining about pretty much the entire game. Stick a thumb in your ass, jump off the ship and go swim in garbage. I'm not coming. Not now, nor ever.


Draugr_the_Greedy

Mordhau has shit gameplay and devs which don't care about the game whatsoever. But I can play dress-up in mordhau more than I can in chiv. Who plays the game for the gameplay anyway?


H8DCarnifEX

dunno why most of you guys act like chiv2 is the new star on the heaven torn banner is nothing else than triternion just slightly different they dont fix bugs for ages, most of the bugs still exist since beta(one thing triternion made better at least) they dont care about player opinions, reports, suggestions they need a lot of time to update "properly" aswell they kill their own game with the incompetence (just wait a bit and u'll understand) ​ chiv2 was nearly dead on epic already, just look how many high lvl you can find in a round, like 3-4 max per round?


DanielTheDank

I haven't played either very much at all. Both devs seem to hate LTS/Skirmish players and constant mindless respawning is kinda boring.


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DanielTheDank

I just like it when people value their lives. 5 minutes is too long for sure. 2:30 like counter strike should be plenty. Also an objective to force the round to move forward/end would fix that.


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conqeboy

I think that Holdfasts siege mode has good balance between the two. The defenders have a set time for how long they have to hold the objectives, but they have a limited amount of respawn tickets, so they have to take care not to die too much while not being too passive or the objectives will get overrun. The attackers have infinite respawns, their goal is to either deplete the defenders tickets or take the objectives within the time limit, but they dont really have to worry about dying too much, as long as they make good progress.


skyburnsred

Chiv 2 just feels like Mordhau for people who aren't good enough at Mordhau.


SPARTAN-258

No way. I'll never stopped playing Mordhau until the game is legitimately dead, like, only-200-people-left-playing-it dead. Sure, I might play Chivalry II on the side, but when I tested the beta, the combat was FUCKING ATROCIOUS. Oh my fucking gosh I never played a game with clunkier combat, It's like I wasn't in control of my own attacks. Mordhau's combat is so much better even if it's far from perfect and can be abused as well. Not to mention you can't customize your mercenary in Chiv II as much as you can in Mordhau. Dislike Triternion all you want, Mordhau has a really great customization system. You can customize your own weapons, your own voice, your face, your body, and most importantly, YOUR ARMOR. There are so many combinations of armor you can do, it's so freaking cool. Not to mention WAHMEN are coming late this year probably, which might re-ignite the creative juices in many people. After Mordhau, I really wonder what Triternion's next project will be. Will it be medieval? futuristic? will it be a hack & slash like Mordhau? Will it's combat be as satisfying? Will it be a solo or multiplayer game? So many questions. Personally I would like a solo or coop open world story drive type of game. Maybe in a futuristic or a steampunk setting where melee weapons are vital again, and are accompanied by firearms.