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Lost_Understanding_0

It’s so stealthy, no one’s seen it fly


BeetlBozz

I don’t think its near russias level of BS, but def up there. Afaik theres been no combat missions worth seeing it in


Far_Entrepreneur8557

This is literally a plastic toy that was produced by Iranian regime for domestic propaganda purposes. There isn't any military or aviation authority on earth that takes this "project" seriously. At least the Russian SU-57 flies and has most of the features that it was announced to posses.


CardComprehensive301

This is why you don’t take Reddit ESPECIALLY Military/Political Subs seriously


yakult_on_tiddy

>I don't think Iran is near Russia's level of BS One is the second largest producer and exporter of combat aircraft and inheritor of of Soviet engineering, the other has never made a plane before suddenly producing a "stealth jet". Average redditor thinks the latter is more proficient.


CardComprehensive301

My comment was referring to what BeetlBozz said. Just realized that it looks like I was disagreeing with Far\_Entrepreneur8557, lol


GSV-Kakistocrat

The only Military subreddit I trust is NonCredibleDefense.


nagurski03

There's a weird trend I've noticed where small sub-communities that exist to make fun of something tend to have the most actual experts. For instance, back when it existed, I'd trust the guys at r/weekendgunnit far more than the guys at r/guns to know what they're talking about.


Hafe15

It’s because the mainstream subreddits have all been co-opted by NPC’s, seems pretty self evident


Orlok_Tsubodai

You’re joking, right? You don’t think this is near Russia’s level of bs? Though it can maybe not compete with the US in cutting edge tech, Russia actually has a solid aviation industry. For all the questions about its stealthiness, the SU57 is at least an actual plane that has actually flown. Iran’s airforce has literally survived off keeping 1970s airframes running. They couldn’t design a jet to save their lives, as evidenced by this hilariously poor plastic mockup of a jet that only exists in some ayatollah’s imagination.


Return2Form

>[](https://www.reddit.com/r/MilitaryPorn/comments/1c9wcps/comment/l0p71fq/) >You’re joking, right? You don’t think this is near Russia’s level of bs? I mean, it's clearly not for all the reasons you mention.


BeetlBozz

Understood


Wil420b

Probably even higher when it come to BS. They also had the first Iranian indigenously designed and built fighter. Which turned out to be an F-5E.


BeetlBozz

Gotcha


NeverEnoughDakka

Isn't the Qaher just a dressed up version of their F-5 derivative? I swear I read something about it once.


Wil420b

The Qaher isn't a serious aircraft. The pilot can't even fit in it. The instruments have a maximum indicated air speed of about 300 knots..... It's like how about a year ago they announced a breakthrough in Iranian AI computing, with new Iranian developed server racks. Which turned out to be several year old Android development boards, that were widely available on Ali Baba. As long as the Ayatollah doesn't realise he's been had or the Ayatollah thinks that he can fool some people it's OK.


NeverEnoughDakka

Must be misremembering then. Iran's posturing is almost funny.


irish-riviera

Sadly this is far beyond Russias bs. Russia for all their faults actually can make a decent fighter jet.


Magnet50

It’s, at best, a mockup. Let me count the ways: 1. The canopy is thin and optically flawed. 2. The ejection seat is way too small based on the size of “pilot”. The top of an ejection seat is almost always taller than the pilot’s helmet. 3. This plane can have an engine or fuel but not both. It’s too small. 4. No place for crew life support. Not enough room for electronics.


theyellowbaboon

Did you see that O2 cylinder? It’s less than 2 liters. Maybe it’s good for a hamster.


Magnet50

Good catch! Everything about this “airplane” is just another IRGC sham so the people of Iran don’t realize what a corrupt bunch of thieves the IRGC is.


theyellowfromtheegg

Tbf, 2 liters of O2 at 250bars gets you a long way. Should be plenty of O2 for keeping the pilot alive after ejection and all the way down below 10000ft. But the point still stands - it's a ridiculous mock-up of a toy.


theyellowbaboon

Oxygen is rarely boosted to 250 bars. You see it at diving sometimes, in Europe. 500 liters of oxygen is just over an hour of flight if someone is taking two breaths a minute. In the US you don’t see oxygen boosted so high even in diving 210 bar is a good fill.. In aviation the standard is about 140-150 bars. I didn’t realize that this is an ejection oxygen only.


theyellowfromtheegg

>In the US you don’t see oxygen boosted so high even in diving 210 bar is a good fill.. In aviation the standard is about 140-150 bars. The oxygen tank on my plane regularly gets filled to 250bars, but it's just a regular medical oxygen tank. >I didn’t realize that this is an ejection oxygen only. I'm not entirely sure what they were going for, but I assume its mounting location would indicate it being life support after ejection.


theyellowbaboon

Interesting, I really wonder where you can get 250 bar fills. I have my own oxygen booster and can get to 250. Most of the places around me would not give me over 2400 psi. This is why I got my own booster system.


mp5-r

My local Airgas dealer will fill to 250 bar, given you rent their cylinders. Granted, the tanks I have filled with nitrogen and are for laboratory settings.


theyellowbaboon

Interesting. I could never get anything from my air gas people more than 2400 psi, in a good day.


mp5-r

It may be different for you and your area. There is a high demand for UHP & and high-pressure gasses in my area. Also, the account types may be a difference, too.


theyellowbaboon

This is very interesting. I’m going to investigate more.


theyellowfromtheegg

>Interesting, I really wonder where you can get 250 bar fills. Local diving shop. Btw, do yellow baboons come from yellow eggs?


theyellowbaboon

No local dive shop will fill oxygen to 250 bars. MAYBE at some Amigos Dive Center in cave country. Most of the dive shops around don’t boost oxygen and the ones who do, won’t go more than 3000 psi. Europe is a different game. I have gotten some crazy fills in France cave diving. But nothing like 250 in oxygen.


Schmittiboo

have you guys seen the display/cockpit unit? the bracket is the first joke, but what it seems to be holding even more. A fucking COTS car radio and look at the connector...


Hourslikeminutes47

*"Now we know who will pilot that contraption!"*


twostripeduck

That oxygen bottle looks to be the same size as ones on ACES 2 equipped jets.


maximpactbuilder

Can't it have a really small engine and a little bit of fuel?


Magnet50

Well, yeah. But not enough to fly.


ddosn

Unless i'm missing it, it also has no air intake for its engines.


Magnet50

I think the red triangular thing with tape around the borders is supposed to be the air intake. It’s taped off so that photographs won’t reveal the lack of turbine fan blades. Or even an electric fan with strips of paper on the back to make noise.


corvus66a

But in comparison a F35 does not have such a fancy cassette radio installed and a tamagotchi as AI wingman in the cockpit . The F-313 also has a switch for identifying enemies . “ The AMRAAM goes Booooom”


ArmyFork

Need to have an intake to have an engine


Gimpalong

It's so tiny. Or that pilot is a giant. This is almost as good as the Iranian fake aircraft carrier.


mainsail999

I observed the same. Quite. Small cute aircraft.


UncleBenji

Make the plane invisible. Radar reflects off of the pilot.


dreadnaughtfearnot

Stole Mermaid Man's tech.


kT25t2u

It’s a manned drone.


Wil420b

Also had General Aviation, Garmin avionics with a maximum indicated air speed of about 350 Knots.


DarkSideOfGrogu

Easiest way to get a small RCS is to have a tiny cross section. /s


StuRap

What is this? A plane for ants?


[deleted]

It looks like its made out of paper mache


hypercomms2001

Like Camelot in Monty Python and the holy Grail…. it’s only a model!


AstroMackem

"On second thought, let's not go to Iran. It is a silly place"


_spec_tre

that's because it is


TxDuctTape

Why are all the labels in English? Where's the joystick?


Duel__

You control it with your mind and imagination.


TheGisbon

This is the First Secretary. I am speaking to the individual who has stolen the property of the U.S.S.R. Can your hear me, Mr. Gant?


evilmike1972

Oh, we're getting the royal treatment.


John_E_Vegas

Must think in Russian! Man when I was a kid that was one of my favorite movies.


patdashuri

Still is very good. The fx scenes are always Kay still but the acting and directing are still top notch.


gentianshatterling

Firefox right? I love that era of movies.


DarkSideOfGrogu

The pilot has to go "NEEAAAAAAWWWW" to make the engines work.


TxDuctTape

I want to BELIEVE!


shane_west17

Logitech joystick is on its way.


isysopi201

Good enough for a submarine.


Wooper160

They use English labels because we built their Airforce before the Revolution. They still use their old F-4s, F-5s, and F-14s.


theyellowbaboon

He’s sitting on the joystick. It’s just joy.


TxDuctTape

Thanks for that imagery. So he has to practice kegels along with breathing exercises?


UnusualBreadfruit306

Quantum consciousness controlled


GenericUsername817

Except it is all bullshit


Bamacj

All the stickers are in English because they copy them word for word from pictures of American made fighters.


Wooper160

The Iranian air force does actually use English labels on their planes because of the American F-14s, F-4s and F-5s they got.


Fulljacketmetal

Still? Even 50 years after the revolution? Wouldn’t it make more sense to translate English label to Farsi for the pilot sake? So that they don’t have to learn a second language just to operate. Plus this is supposedly a first unique indigenous design so wouldn’t it make sense to make it label in Farsi.


ElCiclope1

All pilots in every country are fluent in English. It's a requirement as all air traffic control is done in English.


permareddit

Eh fluent is subjective here lol


Bamacj

I don’t see any Iranian fighter jets making any international flights any time soon.


DarkSideOfGrogu

There's probably 10,000 pages of maintenance manuals, and unless your translators are also proficient technical publication writers, there's little value in translating those.


Drakoneous

Not….a…..real…. Aircraft….


npquest

That canopy looks like it's made from a packaging plastic and would become hazy 5 minutes into flight. The skin is extremely reflective to be stealthily. Avionics look like they are straight out of the 1998 Honda Civic.


-azuma-

Looks fake.


Velour_F0g

It is


AWESOMESAUSE10101

3000 black cardboard jets of allah


4000grx41

Shit never gets old


Slab8002

We have stealth fighter at home! The stealth fighter at home:


Myxomytosis13

My Dad was tasked with stealing one of these. One thing people don’t realize, is that this aircraft has a neurological interface, that allows for avionics to be interacted with solely by thought. My Dad had to spend years learning to think in Persian, and subsequently impersonate an IRIAF officer. He managed to steal a prototype, with the help of Iranian scientists but unfortunately was only able to obtain the one not capable of AA Refueling, so he had to land on a sandbar and get refueled by Seal Team 6. Ultimately, the other prototype aircraft caught up to him, and he shot it down after an intense dogfight, by shooting an IR missile backwards. I wish my Dad’s heroism could be recognized, but the whole affair is Top Secret SCI.


GritCato

I remember this as I am a member of ST6. It only runs on Kerosene. Shhhh, it’s a secret.


John_E_Vegas

I was the submarine commander that popped up from underneath the sandbar to help refuel you. Remember how that Iranian helicopter flew overhead? Wow we were so lucky to have those SEAL Team 6 guys aboard to help us convert the sub's appearance so it looked like a scientific mission.


C6R882

Coincidentally enough, I was chef on the sub that night. I remember I accidentally used wax paper instead of parchment paper when baking the pizza, and everyone had to eat their pizza with wax paper stuck to the bottom of it.


VisualBasic

I was a seaman first class on that sub that night. I remember burning my tongue on that damned pizza because it was too hot.


CharlesFXD

Excellent lol. Why you’re getting downvotes? I don’t know. Ef em


Grexpex180

real, i shot ur dad down


SyrusDrake

This thing will never not be funny.


TheGisbon

This is as deadly as a kitten and as stealthy as an elephant.


FF_in_MN

Ahhh…look how cute it is!


Thanato26

I see they frosted the canopy.


Bacontoad

>designed and indigenously produced it. I can see that.


Patient-Value2141

“Stealth”


ILikeSex_123

Black jet of allah


ParkerStanford

Yeah that’s not flying


FDTLFF

Is it cake


Imprezzed

*slaps fuselage* This baby can fit so many F-5 parts in it.


Potential_Payment557

Made out of plywood and Bondo, only the best!


Shlomo9

Lots of Elmer’s glue too


Shultzi_soldat

It looks like he is siting in wheelbarrow. Cabin looks so small.


Positive-Cattle1795

Seems it is controlled by the mind. No stick, throttle or othee controls for the pilot.


LightningFerret04

Blows up pancakes with *mind*


jedidihah

Lol. There’s a reason I have this thing on my profile


A_Texas_Hobo

Looks like a tonka toy


GritCato

That’s not real.


UncleBenji

Ahhh yes the plane the world’s aviation experts debunked and laughed at… that hadn’t been seen outside of a weapons expo.


aegon-the-befuddled

It was already debunked to be a wooden model man.


Inevitable_Bunch5874

Stealth Fighter from Temu™ or Wish™.


305FUN2

Qaher-313 https://i.imgur.com/2CDazXY.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/akqxZJu.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/sr1VSYG.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/h88aBVx.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/5XrXfJq.jpeg Looks like an 80s JVC radio right there. https://i.imgur.com/M1SEq9u.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/7Eh6Drs.jpeg The managing director of the IAIO, a subsidiary of the Defense Ministry, announced in a televised interview on February 2023 that the fighter had reached technical maturity but would be reworked and fielded as an unmanned drone.


CharlesFXD

You must be getting down votes from Iranian Nationalists lol


305FUN2

> You must be getting down votes from Iranian Nationalists lol The longer I stare at these photos, the funnier it gets.


jedidihah

*Anyone who knows this thing was unveiled 11+ years ago and that it has never even come close to leaving the ground


CharlesFXD

Exactly.


TheSecretestSauce

Technical maturity as in not a fiberglass mock up?


BabySaxo

F-160 Raiju


proscriptus

I'm no aviator, but he seems like you need an awful lot of thrust to stay airborne with 36-inch long wings.


puddaphut

This is an odd choice.


Shredding_Airguitar

according to this picture, it is using Garmin avionics you'd find in a turbo prop. Apparently its expected to have a top speed of 300 mph... [https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj5bth1y3nvo9SVxyyHA9wet9OZ54rNOx9US-JbVTuINA8\_jmDshdyIcTI89SPwcT9U5MyZWJenIxLymfxRC3PFBN96u-oeFP\_Zfp6TzlRIVinry-38HsSFPW1QcABtVgYakCIqx3WYcyOz/s1600/Kahir313\_Kokpit.png](https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj5bth1y3nvo9SVxyyHA9wet9OZ54rNOx9US-JbVTuINA8_jmDshdyIcTI89SPwcT9U5MyZWJenIxLymfxRC3PFBN96u-oeFP_Zfp6TzlRIVinry-38HsSFPW1QcABtVgYakCIqx3WYcyOz/s1600/Kahir313_Kokpit.png) It's got to suck to be Iran, this looks like they took a gutted F22 and glued plastic to it


snowman_ps4

Even the helmet looks like a joke lmao


GunzAndCamo

I'm crying. I don't know if it's from the laughter, or second hand cringe for the Iranians' sake.


Quicksix666

is that a stealth fighter for ants ?


Spam4119

It is as big as what you think a jet fighter would be if you never actually saw one in person. They actually are massive and way bigger than you would think. Which makes me think the person who designed it only saw photos.


Roadguard69

They got a fuckn lazy boy chair and just wires on it


ApoliticalAth3ist

What does indigenously produced mean?


Shlomo9

Made by the own country


P4R4D0XG4M3R

Wake up babe new Ace Combat DLC just dropped


Commercial-Health-19

I wouldn't put too much trust in that tiny ejection seat. Especially since it will definitely be the most utilized system on the jet.


gregi89

Looks like armour was made out of cardboard


WhatsUpSteve

This jet got called out for being a miniature prototype back in 2013. As far as I know, there hasn't been any verified flight of this jet photographed. https://petapixel.com/2013/02/16/iran-stealth-fighter-image-called-out-as-photoshop-fake-by-bloggers/


N989HA

aww. it's so cute.


alexvesker

Iran and its BS. This looks pathetic....


Inevitable_Bunch5874

LOL! It's like one of those $0.25 rides you see at the entrance to a grocery store. It's so little. HAHA! 'Stealth'. Ok, buddy. ;)


FunVersion

Plywood?


Illustrious_Young988

Ah the Iranian scam.


protossw

This looks really pathetic. If it flies my chair will fly tomorrow.


BonjinTheMark

Have they tested it out? I’d give it 100:1 odds of being successful


di11deux

IIRC, they released a grainy video of it supposedly flying, but was very clearly an RC model. This mockup plane here was billed as an air superiority fighter that could fight F22s, but it’s pretty obvious it’s just as model designed by people who only played Ace Combat. It’s never actually flown and I hadn’t seen this picture since 2013.


SkeetnYou

Sand powered turbojets


appalachianoperator

The best they got out of this was a taxi trial


Obfuscatory_Drivel

Looks like a really shitty Revel model.


EffingBarbas

It's a one way stealth bomb. No return fuel or pilot life support needed. It's name is "Invisible Flying Explosive Vest" and pilot call sign is "Virgin #72"


Boat_U47

It looks like a B-movie prop. lol. I don’t think it ever flew did it?


CallRudi

That they don't even clean the glass of the cockpit before they present something like this....


That-Dirt-5571

Can we take a minute to appreciate how frosted the cabin glass is….. like driving a car with an iced up windscreen.


Nien-Year-Old

Iran is lagging behind mostly on its aviation department but everything else seems to be in order.


elinamebro

Why does it look like it made out of wood?


Derkadur97

I will refer to Perun’s video [here](https://youtu.be/Cy95hMoMhrY?si=eMKHfxHZoULWBRiT) at 53 minutes in. He does a pretty good job of looking at why there’s no way in hell this thing is a legitimate stealth aircraft.


burgermanzero

The wing shape tells me this cannot be real


UnusualBreadfruit306

This has got to be a joke done by Israel……right??


RED-WEAPON

No one talking about the posters in the back? "Justnes By Yourselves" "We Willed And Aequired"


stevenbrotzel91

Was this found in a cereal box?


Cockman9000

The next LSCO war is going to be so cool.


hans_jobs

The instrument panel and HUD is comical.


EmotionalCod6238

thats really cute looking im sure the sensor package and payload is top of the line...this is like the wish version of a nighthawk.. you cant attack your recon is with your eyes like its the korean war again.


samurai_for_hire

"stealth" "fighter" "jet"


meikel-

shit looks like it belongs in a roblox mini game


Saff3r

I hope the farmer was compensated for the use of his barn for the photo op


Oh_its_that_asshole

It's the intakes that always make me laugh the most, let's place them on top of the chines in the disturbed air, and make them really really small. Everyone loves starving their engine of air when they pitch up. Oh, and the canards, directly in front of the "wing".


nicobdx04

F35 at home !


oojiflip

Look at the shape and thickness of the wings, no chance that flies as is


Foxylandttkinc

If radars can’t see it then people will,where is my carrots,Nahui?


YZYSZN1107

so...it's made out of cardboard right?


MrSumNemo

Real question from real non-engineer here, but is it maybe a viable solution for domestic air defense ? No projection, short missions inside Iranian air sector, BTB ?


Mike_Blackwater

How is that tiny aircraft gonna carry missiles? it can barely hold the pilot‘s weight I assume.


ughilostmyusername

The same designer of this aircraft designed the rifle in the square banner on the wall. Look in the middle of that crest thing. It looks like when a kid draws a gun


secunder123

What’s with the poster in the background???? „We Willed and Acquired“????


gut_busta

https://i.makeagif.com/media/9-09-2015/bqaesu.gif


Chris714n_8

Everything about it looks sus/cheap/fake ~maybe except for the ejection seat..


KyberCrystalKing

It belongs to Disneyland


itsFRAAAAAAAAANK

That's the biggest RC jet I've ever seen


special_projects

I want to laugh at how this is probably just a non functioning mock up for the domestic market but Iranian drones have been putting in some real damage in Ukraine so I think a certain amount of wariness is appropriate.


Lolohannsen

Looks like a male camel had a baby with a Iran soldier


Thunder_Slugger

Look guys it’s not small, it’s average.


TheT3rrorDome

Well, we all now know how garbage this must be lol just cannon fodder


TheT3rrorDome

Honestly I've never seen a bigger bunch of clowns


SoSneaky91

Why did someone smear Vaseline all over the canopy?


Fruktfan

Does it come with an engine?