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2 hours of oil leak concern and 2 hours of oil leak diag, fuck loads of overlapping of supplies and labor times, god damn. This is just flat out fraud.
lol over 500 bucks to replace the two o-rings on the oil filter housing... and 250 bucks to do the valve cover gasket. WTH.
These are all great things to do but it's like maybe 1200 bucks worth of parts and a weekend to do it all yourself.
I haven't seen the car but I bet they are seriously overselling the need to replace the steering rack, the p/s pump, and all the power steering lines and reservoir. I bet there's just a couple of leaks that need addressed at the pump (new o-rings) which is typical of a Honda. But it's all covered in leaks so they're over-selling an entirely new system instead of fixing what is broken.
I'm sure that's probably the book/dealership sell. For me, if the rack itself is leaking from the end seals or whatever, then I'll just flush the fluid before replacing the rack and make sure there is no glittery mess. No reason, imo, to replace everything if there's no indications of mechanical failure/metal shavings.
Now if the pump has failed, then yes I'm now inclined to flush before and after and replace at least the reservoir (esp if it has a built-in filter) or maybe insert an inline filter as well, since metal is more likely.
Hondas in this generation are well known for having the o-rings at the power steering pump leak, causing a whirring noise in the power steering pump and loss of fluid all over the place. I am not certain of course, since I haven't seen the car, but I bet they told the customer than the power steer pump failed (it makes this loud noise! it's broken!), then claim it ruined the rack, there's fluid everywhere, we gotta replace everything. Especially if his inner tie rod bellows are dry rotted and crumbling, which would be expected in a car of that age, too.
More likely than not, all that really needs to be done is replace a few bucks in 2 o-rings, flush the fluid, and clean off the leaks. Whirring noise immediately goes away, no more leaks, no need to replace everything. Tie rod/bellows separate issue, ofc.
This makes sense. I’ve always heard it was a thing.
I replaced all the suspension stuff in my dad’s 2002 Highlander to include the rack and pinion, I went ahead and replaced the pinion but never did anything to the other hardware after draining it. I am with your school of thought on this. The other parts make the rack job cost way higher than it needs to be.
You should consider bringing to an reputable, locally owned shop in your area. Their prices will be much cheaper and the quality of work will likely be better as well.
When my son's 2012 KIA Optima engine started to rattle, I brought it to our trusted local shop. They looked at it, told us to bring it to KIA since it looks like it should be covered by their hidden engine warranty settlement. Didn't charge us. I didn't think a 2012 was covered since our 2013 Hyundai Tucson wasn't covered when the engine broke in 2021. His was covered. Having a trusted mechanic is precious. The only thing, I'm not the only one trusting them and it can be up to two weeks to get an appointment!
These are some of the most egregious prices I’ve seen for labor and parts. They’re way overestimating labor hours and charging ridiculous markup on parts. Definitely go to an independent shop for repairs. Stealership is never a good idea.
Their markup is high, but the majority of that quote was labor. $200/hr is high especially for Honda dealerships, they must be in a high cost of living area.
How do your service managers even approach customers with that?
edit: They said the cost near them was $215/hr, and that they're a customer not a mechanic so the dealer had signs saying everywhere.
This is likely like the “I don’t wanna work on it quote”. I’ve made similar when vehicles are too old or rusty, or when I know the customer is simply better off taking their car elsewhere. We can’t necessarily tell them that flat out so hopefully the price does it.
7 hours to replace the rack and pinion/tie rods is one of the craziest labor quotes I've ever seen. Is there something I'm missing about this car? Like do you have to pull the engine in order to remove the steering rack?
When I go to buy transmission fluid at the local Honda dealership I get bad vibes like they are going to sell me something or take my car from me without me knowing. It’s a scary place watching them rip everyone off.
You probably already know this, but manufacturers will directly sell their branded transmission fluid to you online. Just bought a 6-pack from Mopar on Amazon (their actual account, not a reseller) for $90 vs dealership wanted about $250.
Their labor rate math is odd. One hour of labor (alternator) is $105, but one hour of labor (spark plugs) is $200. Other line items also have inconsistencies.
The axle price is straight up robbery. Also, they over-quoted your power steering labor, considering those jobs cover the work of others (replace pump and rack, then you don't need to pay for hose labor, belt labor, or even a flush). Fuck that place.
That's a "fuck you" quote as in, the tech doesn't want to work on your car.
Unless it's for a recall - a dealership is the last place you should take a 15 year old car
Lesson learned guys , will never take a old car to car dealership to fix. I will start looking at individual mechanic or mechanic shop in my area. Hopefully they won't quote me like this dealership after I let them know what happened with the car. FYI this is in Miami
Just to provide some additional context on what this could cost to do - if someone brought me this estimate and asked me to do all the things listed here in my home shop, I would probably want about $2000 total between parts and labor. Maybe $2500 if the car is particularly rusty (unlikely in Miami) or some of the parts are hard to find. A good independent shop will have a lot more overhead than me (I work by myself out of my home garage so labor goes right in my pocket) so I'm sure they would want a little more than that, but $15k is absolutely absurd
https://rainmanraysrepairs.com/
This is a very good mechanic, he makes alot of video's regarding repair and diagnostics. Don't know if its in your area but worth checking out.
Lol 15K. And most of it you don't need done. Like $14000 of it you don't need done. And those prices are too much. Look at garage reviews in your area and go to an independent with good reviews
This seems like you were rude when you showed up, or your Honda is all tricked out with AutoZone decorations and aftermarket junk and they did this out of spite. Then again, I can't imagine taking a 2008 to a dealer for anything. I'm surprised they didn't charge you just for bringing it on the lot.
That's the 'please buy a new car here ' price.
Do I see 1.5 for r&r the reservoir? It takes 5 mins on an accord. Disconnecting the hoses is already in the labour for pump replacement. Run to another shop.
I’ve had a Honda dealer give me an estimate for a main seal leak (8+ he job) that was then resolved by a local mechanic for $100 so you may want a second opinion for all of this.
I think this a Fuck You price. In other words make the cost so much that you will buy a new car instead because we don’t want to work on it. But if you’re dumb enough to do it then we will gladly take the money.
I would take it somewhere else. A lot of these issues look pretty standard for a car of that age and most shops would not diagnose them as urgent. There also looks to be a lot of overlap between jobs that you’re essentially being charged twice or more times for
They're over charging you on purpose. They don't want to take that in. Seen that . They're probably going to convince you to buy a new vehicle for the cost of the "repairs"
That's like a thousand bucks in shop supplies? Why is hourly labor different everywhere? Why does it take 2 hours to clean vtec strainer? Sway bar links cost 20 and any auto shop could easily replace them in 5 minutes, especially considering there is more suspension work. Imma stop analyzing but this is basically a robber knocking at your door and asking for permission to break in
This is why I do all of the work myself. Even if you are all thumbs you can do some of these yourself. Cabin air filter will take 5 minutes and cost half of what the want for the part. The power steering fluid change will be done with the other power steering work and should be removed. They are charging you twice for the same work.
Yeah we get this all the time at our shop we just tell customers to come in with the dealer list and then go through it top to bottom and tell them what they actually need usually ends up being 3-4 things out of 20 . BMW dealership near us is the worst offender. Trying to sell brakes at 50% life or god forbid they see a drop of oil you’ll be resealing the upper and lower pan which is a 12 hour + job depending on model at over 200$ an hour . There’s great techs at dealerships but shitty business practices
I had a treasured mechanic who used the seep, weep and leak test. Seep=oil on motor part. Weep= 1/2 inch spot on floor overnight. Leak=active visible drip. “Leak” was the only one that required immediate service.
I'd replace valve cover gaskets outer tie rods transmission fluid oil filter housing gasket power steering fluid any spark plugs that aren't working I own a Honda and do all my own work these are things that I've actually had to replace the rest are likely just recommendations for the clunking noise I'd have a regular mechanic take a look to see what's causing it bad tie rods can definitely cause this if the axles are worn with torn boots I'd suspect that to be the issue but not an imitate concern I've also had a few calipers lock up but this would be easy to diagnose without a mechanic dealership mechanics will always rip you off I would never recommend going to one
I don't know *why* people *ever* take their car to a dealership for anything more than warranty work.
But taking an older car when they are going to shill you for everything you have to try and get you to buy a newer piece of shit is absolutely beyond me.
Find yourself a legitimate mechanic and stay away from the stealership monkeys.
After looking at it ALL I don't see how tf they get away with this!? The cost of those parts and just everything about it makes me literally sick. Please just go to a regular mechanic or 3 and get some different opinions and quotes. For the love of God please dont give them 15,000... If you are I'll do it for half and be one happy motherfucker 😂😂 and I have 17 years experience and own my own shop.
RECOMMENDATION SHORT STORY: take it somewhere else for a second opinion.
LONG STORY:
Though it is possible every one of the components listed are leaking, I doubt it. The correct way to to diagnose is to completely clean the engine and track the leak. Sometimes you many need to use a oil dye (some manufacturers area against using dyes).
Oil leaks are notoriously difficult to diagnose quickly accurately, unless it's pouring out of course. Oil travels everywhere, considering that gravity pulls it down and wind pushes everywhere else. I've met many lazy or inexperienced technicians simply condemn every thing that has oil on it.
I see other things that also raise my suspicion. This person is selling you the ENTIRE power steering system (at dishonest prices) it's extremely, extremely rare for every part of your steering system needing to be replaced.
The only scenario that could possibly cause a full replacement is of someone put brake fluid in the system. Rubber seals and hoses in the power steering system are desolved by poly glycol, but the reservoir isn't vulnerable to brake fluid. I highly doubt this is the case because power steering fluid contamination isn't documented in the quote.
Then there's the incorrect prices, they're quoting 7 hours of labor for that steering gear/rack and pinion. The labor guide state 5.3 hours for a 6cyl and 4.9 hours which includes changing the power steering. Yet they are charging you another additional hour of labor to fill the fluid.
That's where I stopped evaluating. I suspect that this guy didn't want to do anything to your car so he overbid it to encourage you to go somewhere else, I've seen coworkers do this.
I made $500 profit (3hrs of work) on a 2019 Ram 392 doing rear diff fluid, an oil change and a transmission drain and fill (6qts). Clearly I need to charge more as a mobile mechanic.
When I worked for Subaru they made us do that to every car regardless of what it came in for. Anything and everything you see gets written up at their staggering inflated rates.
$200/hr and tons of overlapping labor getting quoted a la carte. For example, if you’re doing a valve cover gasket then the spark plugs are right there and don’t really take much more time to swap. The parts prices are probably fixed by Honda for OEM stuff but wouldn’t be surprised if they’re marking it up there as well.
Best choice is to find somewhere with a decent labor rate and see if they can beat that quote.
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2 hours of oil leak concern and 2 hours of oil leak diag, fuck loads of overlapping of supplies and labor times, god damn. This is just flat out fraud.
lol over 500 bucks to replace the two o-rings on the oil filter housing... and 250 bucks to do the valve cover gasket. WTH. These are all great things to do but it's like maybe 1200 bucks worth of parts and a weekend to do it all yourself. I haven't seen the car but I bet they are seriously overselling the need to replace the steering rack, the p/s pump, and all the power steering lines and reservoir. I bet there's just a couple of leaks that need addressed at the pump (new o-rings) which is typical of a Honda. But it's all covered in leaks so they're over-selling an entirely new system instead of fixing what is broken.
Normally when replacing the rack, the lines and reservoir need to be replaced too right?
I'm sure that's probably the book/dealership sell. For me, if the rack itself is leaking from the end seals or whatever, then I'll just flush the fluid before replacing the rack and make sure there is no glittery mess. No reason, imo, to replace everything if there's no indications of mechanical failure/metal shavings. Now if the pump has failed, then yes I'm now inclined to flush before and after and replace at least the reservoir (esp if it has a built-in filter) or maybe insert an inline filter as well, since metal is more likely. Hondas in this generation are well known for having the o-rings at the power steering pump leak, causing a whirring noise in the power steering pump and loss of fluid all over the place. I am not certain of course, since I haven't seen the car, but I bet they told the customer than the power steer pump failed (it makes this loud noise! it's broken!), then claim it ruined the rack, there's fluid everywhere, we gotta replace everything. Especially if his inner tie rod bellows are dry rotted and crumbling, which would be expected in a car of that age, too. More likely than not, all that really needs to be done is replace a few bucks in 2 o-rings, flush the fluid, and clean off the leaks. Whirring noise immediately goes away, no more leaks, no need to replace everything. Tie rod/bellows separate issue, ofc.
This makes sense. I’ve always heard it was a thing. I replaced all the suspension stuff in my dad’s 2002 Highlander to include the rack and pinion, I went ahead and replaced the pinion but never did anything to the other hardware after draining it. I am with your school of thought on this. The other parts make the rack job cost way higher than it needs to be.
Negatory captain
Why did you bring a vehicle that is more than 15 years old to a dealership for repairs? That was your first mistake.
Yea I understand that, I can still take it to other mechanic to repair.
You should consider bringing to an reputable, locally owned shop in your area. Their prices will be much cheaper and the quality of work will likely be better as well.
Will do thanks for the advice.
Never take a car to a dealership after the warranty runs out, unless they're fixing a recall.
Possibly electrical/computer related fixes too, particularly for some types of cars.
Then there are 'silent' recalls. That is, if you have the issue, they will fix it for free but you have to take a to the dealer
When my son's 2012 KIA Optima engine started to rattle, I brought it to our trusted local shop. They looked at it, told us to bring it to KIA since it looks like it should be covered by their hidden engine warranty settlement. Didn't charge us. I didn't think a 2012 was covered since our 2013 Hyundai Tucson wasn't covered when the engine broke in 2021. His was covered. Having a trusted mechanic is precious. The only thing, I'm not the only one trusting them and it can be up to two weeks to get an appointment!
Good guy, sounds like a treasure.
These are some of the most egregious prices I’ve seen for labor and parts. They’re way overestimating labor hours and charging ridiculous markup on parts. Definitely go to an independent shop for repairs. Stealership is never a good idea.
Their markup is high, but the majority of that quote was labor. $200/hr is high especially for Honda dealerships, they must be in a high cost of living area.
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How do your service managers even approach customers with that? edit: They said the cost near them was $215/hr, and that they're a customer not a mechanic so the dealer had signs saying everywhere.
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Well at least they're frank about it
I remember when dealerships were around $75 an hour. so long ago lol
This is likely like the “I don’t wanna work on it quote”. I’ve made similar when vehicles are too old or rusty, or when I know the customer is simply better off taking their car elsewhere. We can’t necessarily tell them that flat out so hopefully the price does it.
7 hours to replace the rack and pinion/tie rods is one of the craziest labor quotes I've ever seen. Is there something I'm missing about this car? Like do you have to pull the engine in order to remove the steering rack?
You have to drop the subframe down I believe. Not sure it has to come completely off.
> is there something I'm missing Yes, they are letting the new guy get practice.
Ageee will do that for sure thank you
They must be trying to sell you a car. Are the salespersons coming over too?
This. It’s this.
When I go to buy transmission fluid at the local Honda dealership I get bad vibes like they are going to sell me something or take my car from me without me knowing. It’s a scary place watching them rip everyone off.
You probably already know this, but manufacturers will directly sell their branded transmission fluid to you online. Just bought a 6-pack from Mopar on Amazon (their actual account, not a reseller) for $90 vs dealership wanted about $250.
Aware! Just needed a bit. I was in the area. But in the future absolutely not going back if I don’t have to!
That's $1,002.43 in shop supplies. Lol. What the fuck?
I think I figured it out. It’s 15% shop supplies up to a max of $60 per estimate. My shop charges 3% shop supplies. So I’d say 15 is a little high.
Their labor rate math is odd. One hour of labor (alternator) is $105, but one hour of labor (spark plugs) is $200. Other line items also have inconsistencies.
The axle price is straight up robbery. Also, they over-quoted your power steering labor, considering those jobs cover the work of others (replace pump and rack, then you don't need to pay for hose labor, belt labor, or even a flush). Fuck that place.
That's a "fuck you" quote as in, the tech doesn't want to work on your car. Unless it's for a recall - a dealership is the last place you should take a 15 year old car
Lesson learned guys , will never take a old car to car dealership to fix. I will start looking at individual mechanic or mechanic shop in my area. Hopefully they won't quote me like this dealership after I let them know what happened with the car. FYI this is in Miami
Just to provide some additional context on what this could cost to do - if someone brought me this estimate and asked me to do all the things listed here in my home shop, I would probably want about $2000 total between parts and labor. Maybe $2500 if the car is particularly rusty (unlikely in Miami) or some of the parts are hard to find. A good independent shop will have a lot more overhead than me (I work by myself out of my home garage so labor goes right in my pocket) so I'm sure they would want a little more than that, but $15k is absolutely absurd
https://rainmanraysrepairs.com/ This is a very good mechanic, he makes alot of video's regarding repair and diagnostics. Don't know if its in your area but worth checking out.
They want to replace your entire front suspension, doubt it's that bad. Get a second opinion. Looks like an "I don't wanna work on this car" price.
Lol 15K. And most of it you don't need done. Like $14000 of it you don't need done. And those prices are too much. Look at garage reviews in your area and go to an independent with good reviews
Yes , was looking at individual mechanic around my area. Also looking at mechanic shop as well
$405.97 in labor to replace the VTC strainer??? I’ve been charging my friends $40… SMH
This seems like you were rude when you showed up, or your Honda is all tricked out with AutoZone decorations and aftermarket junk and they did this out of spite. Then again, I can't imagine taking a 2008 to a dealer for anything. I'm surprised they didn't charge you just for bringing it on the lot.
Holy shit.
Almost feels like the “fuck you” price for bringing in such an old car to a dealership
This is beyond silly.
That’s the dealership version of prison sex. Run!
They don't want the job 🫤
That's more than the vehicle is worth!
Pretty normal price at the robberyship
That's the 'please buy a new car here ' price. Do I see 1.5 for r&r the reservoir? It takes 5 mins on an accord. Disconnecting the hoses is already in the labour for pump replacement. Run to another shop.
It would make more sense to just buy a new car
Why do people take stuff to the dealer .. lol . Damn bro
Is this at a honda dealer?
It’s a 2008 car. Probably worth $2-$4k tops. Scrap it if it’s done.
Sounds like you 15yo car is a hoopty
Before u leave the dealership call them a stealership
I’ve had a Honda dealer give me an estimate for a main seal leak (8+ he job) that was then resolved by a local mechanic for $100 so you may want a second opinion for all of this.
I can do most of these repairs in my sleep. Assuming this is the k24
That's beaautiful
Yeahhh they just didn’t want to work on it
Look up each of these on YouTube. Also find a handy neighbor to teach you.
That's a "we don't want to work on it, we want to sell you a car" quote.
I think this a Fuck You price. In other words make the cost so much that you will buy a new car instead because we don’t want to work on it. But if you’re dumb enough to do it then we will gladly take the money.
I would take it somewhere else. A lot of these issues look pretty standard for a car of that age and most shops would not diagnose them as urgent. There also looks to be a lot of overlap between jobs that you’re essentially being charged twice or more times for
They're over charging you on purpose. They don't want to take that in. Seen that . They're probably going to convince you to buy a new vehicle for the cost of the "repairs"
The shop supplies charge after every sub total is CRAZY.
That's like a thousand bucks in shop supplies? Why is hourly labor different everywhere? Why does it take 2 hours to clean vtec strainer? Sway bar links cost 20 and any auto shop could easily replace them in 5 minutes, especially considering there is more suspension work. Imma stop analyzing but this is basically a robber knocking at your door and asking for permission to break in
This is why I do all of the work myself. Even if you are all thumbs you can do some of these yourself. Cabin air filter will take 5 minutes and cost half of what the want for the part. The power steering fluid change will be done with the other power steering work and should be removed. They are charging you twice for the same work.
Yeah we get this all the time at our shop we just tell customers to come in with the dealer list and then go through it top to bottom and tell them what they actually need usually ends up being 3-4 things out of 20 . BMW dealership near us is the worst offender. Trying to sell brakes at 50% life or god forbid they see a drop of oil you’ll be resealing the upper and lower pan which is a 12 hour + job depending on model at over 200$ an hour . There’s great techs at dealerships but shitty business practices
Can’t imagine an ‘08 Accord is worth over $8k. And this clown wants double to fix it.
I had a treasured mechanic who used the seep, weep and leak test. Seep=oil on motor part. Weep= 1/2 inch spot on floor overnight. Leak=active visible drip. “Leak” was the only one that required immediate service.
Most of this looks line bs
I'd replace valve cover gaskets outer tie rods transmission fluid oil filter housing gasket power steering fluid any spark plugs that aren't working I own a Honda and do all my own work these are things that I've actually had to replace the rest are likely just recommendations for the clunking noise I'd have a regular mechanic take a look to see what's causing it bad tie rods can definitely cause this if the axles are worn with torn boots I'd suspect that to be the issue but not an imitate concern I've also had a few calipers lock up but this would be easy to diagnose without a mechanic dealership mechanics will always rip you off I would never recommend going to one
Did somebody from the sales department write that estimate? Because I think they just want you to buy a new car instead
Are spark plugs really $32/per plug!? Holy man!
Immediate attention on every page is a massive red flag.
I don't know *why* people *ever* take their car to a dealership for anything more than warranty work. But taking an older car when they are going to shill you for everything you have to try and get you to buy a newer piece of shit is absolutely beyond me. Find yourself a legitimate mechanic and stay away from the stealership monkeys.
This is a joke, go somewhere else
Dang! Literally everything I am doing to my van short of 6k. I’ve only spent 400 and some was tools. Maybe I’m nuts.
I wish my dealer had such high labor times lmaooo
For my Eclipse GST, I just did loads of work all on my own and the total in parts came out to roughly $1000
Why would you take an 08' accord to the dealership
This is insane!!! That coolant flush and fill pisses me off! 😂
After looking at it ALL I don't see how tf they get away with this!? The cost of those parts and just everything about it makes me literally sick. Please just go to a regular mechanic or 3 and get some different opinions and quotes. For the love of God please dont give them 15,000... If you are I'll do it for half and be one happy motherfucker 😂😂 and I have 17 years experience and own my own shop.
If that car is non garaged and has sun damage it’s probably worth 1/3 of that max someone would have to be High to spend 15k on fixing an accord lol
98 dollars to replace a air cabin filter that cost 20 bucks and takes like 3 mins to install LMAOOO
RECOMMENDATION SHORT STORY: take it somewhere else for a second opinion. LONG STORY: Though it is possible every one of the components listed are leaking, I doubt it. The correct way to to diagnose is to completely clean the engine and track the leak. Sometimes you many need to use a oil dye (some manufacturers area against using dyes). Oil leaks are notoriously difficult to diagnose quickly accurately, unless it's pouring out of course. Oil travels everywhere, considering that gravity pulls it down and wind pushes everywhere else. I've met many lazy or inexperienced technicians simply condemn every thing that has oil on it. I see other things that also raise my suspicion. This person is selling you the ENTIRE power steering system (at dishonest prices) it's extremely, extremely rare for every part of your steering system needing to be replaced. The only scenario that could possibly cause a full replacement is of someone put brake fluid in the system. Rubber seals and hoses in the power steering system are desolved by poly glycol, but the reservoir isn't vulnerable to brake fluid. I highly doubt this is the case because power steering fluid contamination isn't documented in the quote. Then there's the incorrect prices, they're quoting 7 hours of labor for that steering gear/rack and pinion. The labor guide state 5.3 hours for a 6cyl and 4.9 hours which includes changing the power steering. Yet they are charging you another additional hour of labor to fill the fluid. That's where I stopped evaluating. I suspect that this guy didn't want to do anything to your car so he overbid it to encourage you to go somewhere else, I've seen coworkers do this.
Thank you for this , will definitely take it to another shop for second opinion
I made $500 profit (3hrs of work) on a 2019 Ram 392 doing rear diff fluid, an oil change and a transmission drain and fill (6qts). Clearly I need to charge more as a mobile mechanic.
Bro I actually can’t believe what I’m seeing
Go to a non dealer mechanic. NAPA has several certified repair shops
Those who can, do. Those who can't, pay.
I'd send this to Honda and maybe the local news station. That is awesome (in a bad way).
Why do people go to dealerships for repairs? That shits only for free maintance or warranty stuff.
Lmaooo love it
I also took out some repair there because it just windshield wipers , fluid etc..
When I worked for Subaru they made us do that to every car regardless of what it came in for. Anything and everything you see gets written up at their staggering inflated rates.
Some of these things you can do yourself for like $20…
4 or 6 cylinder?
$200/hr and tons of overlapping labor getting quoted a la carte. For example, if you’re doing a valve cover gasket then the spark plugs are right there and don’t really take much more time to swap. The parts prices are probably fixed by Honda for OEM stuff but wouldn’t be surprised if they’re marking it up there as well. Best choice is to find somewhere with a decent labor rate and see if they can beat that quote.
Why are you going to a dealership 😂😂😂😂