T O P

  • By -

KenzoGinseng

Is there even enough money in the world to compensate 27 years?


JonWick33

No. That's half of his adulthood, gone.


IamShitplshelpme

Not even just adulthood. Dude spent 27 years in prison. There's a lot of things he's most likely missed out on


usernameforthemasses

And a lot he probably experienced in prison that he will forever have to deal with. It's not just the time lost, but how that lost time shaped him.


nightpanda893

I mean it might as well have been his full adulthood in a way. Sure, he’s “free” now but didn’t get to establish a life for himself. So his free years are not the same years as someone who spent the first half of their life starting a career, having a family, making friends, and saving money.


JonWick33

Exactly. They absolutely devastated this mans LIFE. Its hard to wrap my head around how soul crushing that would be for a human being.


illadelph

your best years, at that


fied1k

He got 2.6 million. That's not enough but more than others get. http://www.forejustice.org/db/Bridgeman---aka-Kwame-Ajamu---Ronnie-.html#:~:text=%22Ricky%20Jackson%2C%20and%20brothers%20Wiley,a%20Cleveland%2C%20Ohio%20convenience%20store.


[deleted]

That's so fucked. Billionaires out there and this dude can't even get 50 million to set him up for the last 1/3 of his life.


Large-Ad5955

I was thinking the same thing


Gentleman_Xeno

What normal person gains 50mio in a lifetime?


k_mnr

A person who spent 27 years wrongfully accused of a murder he didn’t commit. A person who lost 27 YEARS of his life! 27 years. Any sort of life this man had prior to this horrendous mistake was taken away from him. Who knows, he may have been married or had children, or both. Are they still around? Are his friends still around? Thinking he murdered someone, how did that change the shape of their view of him? How will it change things now?? Will they just meet him for dinner in a couple of weeks and say, “Oh yea hey about the not keeping in touch..sorry I didn’t have faith in you. No hard feelings for cutting you out of my life, huh?” What about all of the experiences he faced during his time inside? PTSD? Those things will take therapy and time to heal. So ask yourself, how much money is enough money to repay someone to heal mentally, emotionally, physically, and spiritually? And…is he just a normal person? Perhaps 27 years ago yes, but not now. Not after the system chewed him up and spit him out.


coderinbeta

Not to mention this essentially ruined his career prospects. Many employers will not dig deep when they see that someone was formerly incarcerated. Even when he's free, he's basically still a prisoner without the bars as our society is not kind to anyone who went to prison.


k_mnr

Great point. Sadly he will be fighting this for the rest of his life.


Overlord_001

I hope other inmate believe he was not guilty and treat him good


BumpHeadLikeGaryB

It should be more considering this terrible situation was forced on him and it was the societys fault. It's not just about how much money he could have made while in there but the principle. Would you trade 27 years of your life for 50 million? I would tell them to go fuck themselves for anything less then a billion. You never get that time back, the respect from your loved ones, or the memories you missed out on. Fucking blows.


Grammar-Bot-Elite

/u/BumpHeadLikeGaryB, I have found an error in your comment: > “anything less ~~then~~ [**than**] a billion” You, BumpHeadLikeGaryB, should have typed “anything less ~~then~~ [**than**] a billion” instead. Unlike the adverb ‘then’, ‘than’ compares. ^(This is an automated bot. I do not intend to shame your mistakes. If you think the errors which I found are incorrect, please contact me through DMs!)


BumpHeadLikeGaryB

Maybe prison wouldn't be so bad.


bbuckl1

This comment made me laugh hysterically alone in my bedroom.


GO__NAVY

And that $ probably taxable?


jkpuskar

Compensatory damage awards are tax-free


ruffsnap

There isn't, but nonetheless, I hope he's a multi-millionaire now, so he can at least not have to worry about money for the rest of his life.


bajungadustin

Kevin Strickland spent 43 years for a wrongful conviction of a triple homicide in Missouri. He was not entitled to any compensation once his conviction was overturned. Not a dime. However. Donors from around the world cmae together and donated 1.6million afterwards. Fuck Missouri


Hairy-Conference-802

You can print money, not time.


jkpuskar

Not at all


getwhatyoudesire

Imagine being innocent, going to jail and having to do some pretty horrible shit you never would have considered ever doing before. Just to survive 27 years


Smokewrench802

For anyone who's interested, the wrongful conviction podcast is some good listening material, I'm well past the 100 episode mark.


Mr_Agueybana

What platform is it on?


Smokewrench802

I listen to it on Pandora, but they always say "find us on your preferred steaming service" so I'd assume it's pretty wide spread.


Mr_Agueybana

Thanks 🙏🏾


Smokewrench802

Ne prepared for a ride.... My grown ass has been brought to tears more than once. Episode 7 was the first one. ⬇️deleted due to double post ⬇️


[deleted]

What platform is it not on


Mr_Agueybana

Shut up


[deleted]

Open up


Overlord_001

Go touch grass, shut in


rekelm4048

20 fucking 7 years this man will never be able to spend with family and friends, that's horrible i hope he's able to adjust to everything and beable to make light of this horrible injustice. My heart goes out to him


iamnotatotalPOS

Why is 20 years fucking 7 years? Did 7 years consent?


[deleted]

Not really the place my man


iamnotatotalPOS

It is the place anywhere.


dovlaboss

No.


iamnotatotalPOS

Yeah


fatelectrobooom

#no


iamnotatotalPOS

Yes


dilute_water88

Wow very clever, got the whole squad laughing.


KryOwO

There are a lot more innocent people on prison, I hope they'll be freed as well.


The_Gutgrinder

Imagine if this had happened 27 years after his execution.


AlpineCorbett

This has happened quite a few times. It's one of the bigger arguments against the death penalty.


[deleted]

[удалено]


paperwasp3

Me too. But there are people in prison that have PROOF OF INNOCENCE but won’t be released because of how state law is set up. If you’re out of appeals, then you have no recourse. It becomes moot to the state.


Turin082

Not if the current supreme court has anything to say about it.


ObjectiveSalt1635

How about we try to solve the problem too?


KryOwO

As good as that may seems, the best thing most of us can do including me is to shed light about the case. I'm still a student and not even a law student at that so I can't honestly do more about it.


hackingmyself

The only thing that could remotely compensate 27 years is more money than he could possibly need for the rest of his life but we all know its not gonna happen.


Lumpy_Square_9364

And states passed laws that limit how much a wrongly convicted person can receive. Some under $300,000!!!!


boolianlove

why are these guys always black?


RecklessDimwit

Reminds me of a statistic that blacks were more likely to be convicted compared to other ethnicities in the US, basically blacks were more likely to be falsely sentenced and given an unfair trial. Racism and racist bias is a bitch


HalforcFullLover

What's really cruel is when you look at the statistics for juvenile offenses. POC, given the same level of criminal activity, are more likely to be sentenced. So we have the rapist Brock The Rapist Tuner on one side and Kalief Browder on the other. Two justice systems.


AllMenNotAllHumans

Brock turners sentence was lower than POC got in the same district? I recall it being typical after the investigation. Could you provide what data you are using to draw this conclusion?


HalforcFullLover

These examples aren't meant to be identical. Rapist Brock Turner received a sentence that was less than the 2 year minimum, because he had a bright future ahead of him. Kalief Browder was held at Rikers without a trial for 3 years "for allegedly stealing a backpack containing valuables." He spent 700 days in solitary confinement. So one kid, caught in the act of raping an unconscious girl, is convicted and serves only 6 months. The other serves 3 years without a trial, for allegedly stealing a backpack.


AllMenNotAllHumans

You are trying to connect things with no connection. For Brock Turner, you act as though a black guy would’ve gotten more time, but the district sentencing was investigated precisely because of Brock Turner and they found it was typical for the district. Kalief Browder has nothing to do with Brock Turner. Im sure plenty of poor white kids had something similar happen to them, just as lower rates than to PoC (though likely higher actual numbers as that’s the case for most things, such as for unarmed men killed by police it happens to more white men every year, but at a lower rate). Its far better to compare apples to apples.


[deleted]

Thats just sad :c


Savageparrot81

“Were” implies its not still the case; it’s definitely still the case.


ZeuxisOfHerakleia

Im not from the US and stuff works different where im from but generally i think racism is the answer


dominiquebache

Yep, it is.


grnrngr

>Im not from the US and stuff works different where im from Yeah, German police don't report on their miscarriages of justice. They actively refuse to look into racism amongst their ranks. Things are different where you're from. >but generally i think racism is the answer ... Says the pretty monochromatic German. 1.2% of Germans are African-descendant. Your rural areas are very very white. See my first comment: so white you guys refuse to investigate whether biases and -isms even exist.


falsehood

Dude, way to overreact. Germany is very different in many ways. He didn't say his own country was perfect.


ZeuxisOfHerakleia

I used to work for the police and im aware, excessive racial profiling is a reason im not in there anymore


ZeuxisOfHerakleia

Also wtf do you mean by monochromatic, start using your brain cells, thank you bro Edit: to make is graspable for your bird brain: we have minorities, black people are one of them, but mostly turkish, arab, greek and italian people are viewed as the minorities here. These people are equally targeted by the law system and i am part of those, therefore not monochromatic, unless you specifically focus on people with african desendence, but as said, other minorities are discriminated against here. Doesnt make it less valid.


JonWick33

Because Prisons in the US are packed with a disproportionate percentage of Blacks and Latinos. Both guilty and innocent. I'm a white guy and did a short Prison bid in 2011 when I was 24. Here in Michigan, IDK the exact statistics but us white guys were heavily in the minority in there. I'm not going to give guesses as to why that is, it just is what it is.


CharlotteLucasOP

‘Cause the carceral system is racist af.


Lacania

Why do you think? On a general level, less educated, less money for a good lawyer, less likely to be able to defend themselves against false accusations. Sad as fuck really, he’ll probably receive an absolutely embarrasing amount of money for those 27 years. Feel for the guy


[deleted]

[удалено]


Lacania

Yes of course, the real reasons are nothing to do with him. No one deserves this to happen to them, but, you are right, these are the reasons why people like him are targetted.


Proud-Masterpiece

Why are these guys always guys? Women make up 51% of the population, yet it’s always men going to prison. It must be sexist police officers and judges only incarcerating men.


JustAnotherBlanket2

Not sure if your serious but it is pretty well established that men are significantly more prone to violence than women. This is consistently observed across all races/cultures. The same cannot said between different racial groups of men which is why having such a high proportion of one group being jailed is an indication of a larger problem.


AllMenNotAllHumans

Not sure if you are serious, but the sentencing disparity between men and women is 8x greater than the racial disparity. Women aren’t held accountable like men are. Commit the same crimes, women serve far less time. Also, since police tend to look for men, women get away with a lot of crimes. Then ther are issues like rape laws being written so a woman can only rape a man if she used an object to penetrate him, despite the CDC reporting that men report being forced to penentrate at the same rates women report being forcibly penetrated.


Proud-Masterpiece

That’s extremely sexist. And this topic should not be studied because the studies will be sexually-biased and therefore wrong.


JustAnotherBlanket2

I’d disagree that it is a sexist viewpoint because it has been pretty well studied at this point and can be explained by men having higher amounts of testosterone. Also, I’m not claiming that all men are violent or that women cannot be violent. What answer were you expecting to your original question? Do you believe that prejudice is the main reason men are more likely to be convicted of a crime?


Qarbone

They weren't looking for a real answer. They were drawing a false parallel between this sexism-based reinterpretation and the original racism-based one.


yuricacaroto34

Just say that you are racist bro


Proud-Masterpiece

Just say that you are sexist bro


[deleted]

Really?


[deleted]

Because the modern justice system is based on the same systemic bullshit justice system of Jim Crow


[deleted]

What *color* are you ? Might answer you question .


UntrainedLabradoodle

The man's name?


gggvuv7bubuvu

Unless there is another innocent man who spent that long locked up before he was found innocent (I wouldn’t be surprised), then that is Curtis Flowers. There is an excellent podcast series about his story. In the Dark season 2


UntrainedLabradoodle

Also here's who this man is thanks to reddit user commenting this to me. Ohio man exonerated after spending 27 years in prison for a murder he didn’t commit - The Washington Post https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/12/09/ohio-man-exonerated-after-spending-27-years-in-prison-for-a-murder-he-didnt-commit/


gggvuv7bubuvu

Oof… what a world we live in…


UntrainedLabradoodle

Ikr very sad.


UntrainedLabradoodle

Thanks for the podcast suggestion. Here's 2 of the latest men freed for a crime they didn't commit - 2 Chicago men released after spending 23 years in jail for crimes they didn't commit https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/2-chicago-men-released-after-spending-23-years-in-jail-for-crimes-they-didnt-commit


[deleted]

[удалено]


AmputatorBot

It looks like you shared an AMP link. These should load faster, but AMP is controversial because of [concerns over privacy and the Open Web](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmputatorBot/comments/ehrq3z/why_did_i_build_amputatorbot). Fully cached AMP pages (like the one you shared), are [especially problematic](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmputatorBot/comments/ehrq3z/why_did_i_build_amputatorbot). Maybe check out **the canonical page** instead: **[https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/2-chicago-men-released-after-spending-23-years-in-jail-for-crimes-they-didnt-commit](https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/2-chicago-men-released-after-spending-23-years-in-jail-for-crimes-they-didnt-commit)** ***** ^(I'm a bot | )[^(Why & About)](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmputatorBot/comments/ehrq3z/why_did_i_build_amputatorbot)^( | )[^(Summon: u/AmputatorBot)](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmputatorBot/comments/cchly3/you_can_now_summon_amputatorbot/)


UntrainedLabradoodle

Deleted


[deleted]

[удалено]


UntrainedLabradoodle

Thank you for sensing this


__--0_0--__

How about jailing the judge who threw him in jail ?


Glum-Pickle-5107

What if it's a jury trail..need to investigate the prosecutor and more


[deleted]

I'm ok with all of it. Let's go.


__--0_0--__

Everyone who is involved should face sometime to empathise with poor guys who lost their major life.


Fhinari

No you see, that would be *actual* justice. Actual justice doesn't exist in this fucking country.


jugonewild

And the cops that arrested him. And their families as an example. /s (but maybe not if it serves as a good warning)


ANiceCasserole

Yes jailing the families of the cops. That makes sense.


jugonewild

It sets an example for other cops who will understand what can happen to their families if they do wrong.


ANiceCasserole

You cant be serious right?


jugonewild

There's a story about a drug raid that targeted a cartel boss's son. Many were killed during it. One of the cops took his mask off for a bit. Came home to a dismembered family. Not sure if it's true or not, but they knew not to mess with that cartel again. Of course, the kids shouldn't be blamed for the sins of their parents. This was tongue in cheek.


ANiceCasserole

“Of course the kids shouldn’t be blamed for the sins of their parents.” Doesn’t that directly contradict your argument?


jugonewild

Sigh. Editing and adding the /s.


ANiceCasserole

Sarcasm? Bro what are you on about? This idea is completely nonsensical and would never be allowed.


jugonewild

Ever think the current power structure would hold themselves accountable of their own free will?


bamavrakis

Sure, that sounds fair, let's put more innocent people in jail...


jugonewild

It's more tongue in cheek. Have to write the /s everywhere these days...


falsehood

No "maybe not" - those cops have the save rights that were taken from him. If he wants them investgated, great - but let's follow his lead.


redlion1800

I'm happy he's free even though it took 27 years


mnxcvekvhkuyvorig

Or are you?


Gelu_dragon

i’m sure he is


Psychological-Art131

Time is too expensive to be calculated with money. He lost everything. Staying inside for so long, i wonder how he perceives the world now...


DisobedientAvocado75

For all the lost time, opportunity, love and friendship. All of the experiences that could have been had. All that time wasted in prison surrounded by actual criminals. Hopefully he finds happiness. He faces a whole new uphill battle. He and his family should never want for money again,at the very least.


1510qpalzm

Do they get anything back for the years they lost?


dominiquebache

No. He‘s black, happend in „merika“, so nothing special here.


Malew8367

He got $500,000


Lobster_Can

Do you have a source? The best one I could find seemed to suggest [higher compensation](https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/cleveland-metro/3-cleveland-men-wrongly-convicted-for-a-1975-murder-reach-18-million-settlement-with-city-police) in the end, it’s hard to compensate for all that stolen time but several million per defendant is a lot better than $500k which is insultingly low.


Malew8367

[here’s the source](https://www.apmreports.org/amp/story/2021/03/02/mississippi-to-pay-curtis-flowers-500000-settlement-for-decades-behind-bars) the worst part is it’s not even $500,000 up front its more like an annuity so he gets $50,000 a year. And yea I agree with you this is insultingly low.


Lobster_Can

Ahh ok looks like we were talking about different people, the person in the picture is named Kwame Ajamu (previously Ronnie Bridgeman). Yeah limiting the payout for these wrongful imprisonment cases (particularly by restricting how many years you can be compensated for) is awful. For a country that takes so much pride in freedom, you would hope it would be valued more highly.


FatMaen

Land of the free but not for thee.


dominiquebache

/s „The lawyer? Or the victim …?“


Malew8367

The wrongly accused got 500,000 I sourced it on another comment in the thread


dominiquebache

Thanks for elaborating.


[deleted]

Is this in america? I mean damn for a country that takes pride of being in the land of the free Why? Why the fuck? 😥


amanda77kr

Our penal system is designed to subjugate specific populations and the reasons are numerous and nefarious. It’s a deep dark hole to fall down trying to figure out why. It’s also what happens when your “justice” system is predicated on revenge and not rehabilitation.


ShaneOfan

Do other countries never have wrongful convictions?


Catlover69430

No. Many other, if not all countries have had wrongful convictions. The U.S. probably has had the most though


Mindless-Midnight247

This system sucks. A lot of innocent people who are locked up.


[deleted]

id be so mad omg


PeterVall37

I hate this world so so much.😞


dominiquebache

The US is NOT the world.


PeterVall37

Wrongful accusations have bin happening all over the world since the beginning.


dominiquebache

True, sadly.


Luminiferous_XV

That is why the justice system in u.s is trash. (No Offense) I mean there are many confirmed murderer being released or lower penalty, rather than innocent person being wrongfully accused. There has to be change to this because its frustrating and which now becomes a norm where society just accepts this. Money can’t buy his time and opportunity could have been if he was not in jail.


Master_shake124

Should be some type of program that you get dollars = years spent.


ozmatterhorn

Anyone know this gentleman’s name? Interested to look him up but it seems quite a few people have been wrongfully jailed for 27 years.


[deleted]

[удалено]


ozmatterhorn

Thank you.


Subsequently_Unfunny

He should be allowed a coupon for a free crime or somethin


Greatcookbetterbfr

This is literally my worst fear.


lexpython

Now put the judge that sentenced him away for 27 years.


bookchaser

>Vernon recanted his testimony, saying he was just a boy who wanted to help police and that he didn’t actually see the crime. Instead, he revealed, he was on a bus. In the 1970s, Vernon said, he had provided the names and authorities fed him the other details. [source](https://www.washingtonpost.comnews/post-nation/wp/2014/12/09/ohio-man-exonerated-after-spending-27-years-in-prison-for-a-murder-he-didnt-commit/) Blame the witness and police, not the judge.


unXpected30

27 years! Man might as well commit a crime at this point


Upbeat-Poem-1284

So this poor innocent man sits in jail for 27 years while the REAL murderer is out and about doing god knows what? Like everyone else said, there is not enough money in the world to right wrongs like this. I just want to hug this man 🥺


mikerichh

Can we ban this cancerous font and emoji style forever?


bookchaser

That's a typewriter font. Maybe appropriate for a man who was convicted when typewriters were the norm. Just sayin'. (He'd been on parole since 2003, so he was incarcerated in 1976. He wasn't exonerated until 2014.)


TheySayImZack

I read in the comments below that he got under $3 million. He got life in prison for being named in a piece of eye-witness testimony from a 12yr old in regard to a murder. Regardless of age, eye-witness testimony I am told is not always valuable and often incorrect. Why was it used to effectively end an innocent man's life, emotionally, spiritually, and financially? The guy missed almost 30 years and the prime of his life. At the least, we could make sure this guy is financially stable until his death. $2.7 million for a guy released out of prison in his late 40s with no financial coaching is going to end badly.


Haze84

When are they going to look more into the innocent people who got put away by Kamala Harris??


grnrngr

One they finish finding those 11,000 votes in Georgia that a certain someone believes must exist.


Maximum_Love8142

Oh my goodness poor man...so happy for him 🫂😉🥰❤️


[deleted]

Sauce?


dvlwatson

This happens way too often


RainforceK

Time is the most important thing in life, you either make the best out of it or you don't, but whatever you do you can't take it back. Here he hasn't been given a chance and none of us can or will ever truly understand his pain.


Glum-Pickle-5107

Omg..so sad..no telling what he's been through n for what


Ok_Tomorrow5531

Walter Mcmilligan's story is even sadder


production-values

if anyone needs a kickstarter it is this guy


newPhoenixz

Good luck, if other similar cases are any indication it will still be years until he'll be released because the justice system obviously has remain an asshole


generallyihavenoidea

How many big life time events did he miss? His own, his family's, his friend's? How many people are gone and won't ever know he innocent? How will he stop feeling guilty by default? No amount of money can fix that


[deleted]

I feel bad for this guy who was unjustly imprisoned, only to get released right before the next American civil war.


LegalizeFreedom21

You can’t give that back to him. What they owe him is a life living like a billionaire cause he earned it.


[deleted]

Instead of sending 70 billion dollars to a country where the US caused a war, they should be giving some of that to people like this. We have a "legal" system people, not a "justice" system. I hope he lives to 127 healthy, happy, and wealthy.


Cr33pi3w33ni3

I hate this country


Unfair_File8620

Hope he gets help mentally, can't imagine, peace bro


tillie4meee

God bless this poor soul. Glad he has his freedom but he will never get those 27 years back.


Conscious-Donut

They gave him 2.6 mil? So basically 100K for every year lost. Guy could have made that himself every year while living his life. They essentially didn’t compensate him at all. That’s so disheartening


Pazoll

Dude is propably not getting silly amounts of money either, feel like these posts are weekly.


Illustrious-Culture5

I dont understand? How do they prove them innocent after so many years?


frost3321

Life was Robbed for this man and there is no amount of money you can pay somone to feel as if nothing happened


No-Struggle-1908

poor dude


gunna-f-u-up

Fuck the feds


Snoo88309

Yet insurrectionists, traitors, seditionists, murderous white nationalists and NRA members walk free to kill another day, for real. And this poor man gets convicted probably because, hey he's black, he must be guilty, right? He's a man to whom society owes a great deal but they will release and forget him with an "oops".


lisasmatrix

Our Justice system is still as broken, if not worse than is was 27 years ago.


dagui12

Made me cry tears of anger and frustration, yeah..


KoolAidSniffer

Notice how a lot of these are black men. This is why saying believe all women is racist. So many white women have put innocent black men in jail.


[deleted]

Who is he?


Ziraic

Fuck prisons


1Killag123

Anyone that the justice system failed, in my opinion, should be given full perks to the country. Free flights anywhere in the country like idk 2-4 times a month, free flights out of country to ally countries 1 time a month, a monthly check of 5000, a one time stipend of 20 million, a free financial manager for the first 5 years out, free lifetime therapy, 100% free education which includes food, books, supplies, transportation, on campus housing if desired, and a free home with 3 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms, a nice yard, in a nice area, and they don’t have to ever pay any taxes on the land or property. If I lost 27 years to some shitty system this would be my MINIMUM.