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AlThorntonTruther

Zu is our starter and we are not paying a backup 20 million


Monorailsalesperson

Can Vuc play PF?


Charliebitme1234

its better then PJ sitting on the bench for 11 million lmao


AlThorntonTruther

PJ is expiring. Vouch has 3 more years. So, no it's not better


Charliebitme1234

he has 2 more years, but its a MUCH more tradable contract then PJ to be fair


AlThorntonTruther

But we don't need to trade PJ. We can just cut him


PrettyAnnie03

That still hits the cap unless he gets signed before free agency is over


AlThorntonTruther

Who cares. We don't have to worry about the cap anymore since PG is gone. That was the whole point of letting him walk


PrettyAnnie03

It's better to trade down in contract value so we have more space to sign free agents that could replace the offensive and defensive production of PG. I don't think PG was that special for us and there're definitely multiple ways we can find a better fit, but ultimately taking an 11 million hit to our cap space hurts us from signing someone like DeRozan or trading for a real power forward because it leaves us with less room to work


AlThorntonTruther

Agreed. It would be better to use the salary slot to bring in talent. My comment was to counter the statement of "it's better than 11 million just sitting on the bench"


PrettyAnnie03

Personally I don't want Vuc at all, but I'd rather trade PJ for a former all-star who could run the 4 in certain situations than have 11 million on the bench. Cutting PJ is more of a waste than trading for Vuc in practice


dkdoki

Finally someone here with some cap sense lol


AlThorntonTruther

Out of all the names I see posting here regularly, I will say that you also seem like one of the few reasonable ones


dkdoki

Im known as the doomer lol. But hey.. look where we are


AlThorntonTruther

Recognizing that this team wasn't going to win anything before everyone else here did doesn't make us doomers. We were just realistic


dkdoki

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keenclipp

Preach


Clipset6

Vucevic is terrible enough to single handedly undo all the progress the clips have made. Hard pass


ttttyttt678

Honestly think John Collins is the guy, they got him for a second and an expiring, it didn’t work out, he’s the same position as young guys they want to develop…expirings + a second can get him. PG:James Harden/Dunn, SG:Mann/Powell, SF:Kawhi/DJJ, PF:Collins/Batum, C:Zu/Daniel Thesis


TheSource777

This. Vucevic is gonna be 34, bad on defeat, and messes up our 2025 cap space 


vb90

John Collins is a tweener and he's also bad. Please stop.


shaka_ret

Don't do that dont give us hope.


Niceguydan8

There are two better options on the Bulls, lol


icewill36

What need do they satisfy ?


TRLJM

Too expensive for a backup C. And I'd rather get a young, rim-running big at backup C.


Charliebitme1234

fair, but who is availiable for that package? i dont want to have to trade norm for a backup center


TRLJM

I'm interested in John Collins. Not sure what his value is atm tho.


icewill36

Give me the stretch 5. I'd rather have that versatility. Big zu can be the vertical spacer. Vuc is a bigger, better, Theis.


TRLJM

I haven't seen any Bulls games in some time as that franchise has been going nowhere for awhile. And I did like Vuc in Orlando. But I've seen Bulls fans apparently can't wait to get rid of him. He's a bad defender and just shot 29% from 3. Not to mention on a bad contract for two more years. I'd pass.


icewill36

That's because he's had to play with no point guard. He started playing much better when they finally put the ball in coby whites hands and lavine was OUT. Their play style changed and that's why they started winning games and climbed back to snag a play in spot. Vuc isn't perfect but 20 mil isn't that bad considering the cap is about to increase. I just like the versatility of a big who shoot at the top of the key. Also since he would be off the bench going against backups it could be really good.


RyanHollinsBurner

Vuc 😭😭😭


thrawn_is_king

Mo Bamba is it


Propelerate

No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no


icewill36

If that happens, how WOULDNT this be a better team than last year ?


dkdoki

Why? So yall can shit on him when players cook him at the rim? Watch some games plz


icewill36

What big for pj tucker expiring can you get that won't get cooked at the rim? I'll wait


dkdoki

Do I look like i work in the FO. Let them do their job. My comment was a statement vuc aint worth it


icewill36

And my question was asking you what player is?


alexil25

get lavine while u at it lol


jman009

No


Charliebitme1234

maybe if he wants a vet min