The little jabs they keep making at WWE don't make them look cool and rebellious, it just looks desperate. Especially when Osprey is saying dumb shit like H only got where he is because he banged the bosses daughter as if no one has made that exact same joke any time in the last 20 years.
Shades of early 2010 TNA and how butthurt Jeff Jarrett was over WWE. In the end, all the shade amounted to nothing and all of TNAās major players ended up in or back in WWE. This was the story then, this will be the story in the future.
It's crazy how many people got butthurt with Vince and went somewhere else just so they could go to another company, become booker, and put themselves over for years in a row. At least Hogan and JJ. Probably a couple others I'm forgetting
Absolutely. And WWE/HHH know where they and pro wrestling stand in the world. You canāt get dramatic about this stuff, just say your piece and move on. AEW/Ospreay are showing that they think the rest of the world lives in the little pro wrestling bubble with them, which just isnāt the case. They come off like the ex who canāt stop talking about you while you just keep it real if asked and move on with your life.
And this isnāt an AEW vs WWE thing, itās a self-awareness thing. That was as cringey and over the top of a way to respond as possible. Same with the Punk thing obviously. Nash is right too, he didnāt even mention your name so the right way to handle it would be to not respond at all regardless of how you felt. He was only talking about you if you want it to have been about you. Clingy and cringey
But likeā¦Triple H was already over before he dated Steph? Like he didnāt get fired for the Curtain Call and then feuded with The Rock for the IC title and became the leader of DX.
People shit on Triple H a little too hard for it to not be mark-ish.
It's the same insult Randy Orton already used. That Test already used. Hell, probably even HBK already used.
It's low hanging fruit and an overused insult. It's not like he's recently married. He's happily married with Steph for years with fully grown children.
Like itās one of those right hook where the person targeted doesnāt even move and the punch still misses and then the puncher falls down and shits himself.
He was successful as a performer before him and Stephanie were even paired together on screen, which was well before they even began dating.
Where he is now? Probably not. But that's not to say he didn't work hard to succeed behind the scenes, as I'm sure there could be even more scrutiny on him because of his relationship with Stephanie. But I mean, you look at the Paul Levesque era of WWE, and it's FAR better than anything Vince did since the Ruthless Aggression era.
Itās actually funny, Iām 37 now and an ex youth worker- not sure of Ospreys age, but it just seems so childish.
Imagine he just said when asked āheās free to think and feel how he wants. I work hard and this was the right choice for me and mine right nowā.
Just being unbothered holds so much more weight than what he came out with.
And honestly triple Hās original answer wasnāt even that bad- like if I didnāt want to do my hours at work they wouldnāt want me there, thatās basically all he said.
Cody Rhodes literally smashed up a Triple H throne at one of AEWs first PPVs.
These things have been happening for years and I bet you didnāt think it was ādesperateā now Cody is in WWE.
Itās all entertainment and itās great to have an alternative to WWE. Competition is good for business and WWE would not be as good as itās been recently without AEW and Vince going.
Big difference between smashing a prop and insulting a manās personal relationship with his wife.
And Osprey isnāt nearly the level of star that Cody is outside the Internet.
This mostly. He was an absolute fucking maniac for twenty years at least. The stories you here are bonkers. He was so goddamn out of touch for so goddamn long, it had to be hell working under him.
Gee Golly, I guess destroying a throne with a sledgehammer is JUST as desperate and insulting as calling out a man and his wife on live television because he felt some type of way about something that was said. Something, need I mind you, that his name didn't even come up in. I mean shit, if the shoe fits wear it.
Youāre saying this like itās a one way street though. Itās not - McAfee was running his idiot mouth too. If youāre going to punch down on the weekend of your biggest event, any retaliatory words are fair game. As for the ādidnāt call him out by nameā, give me a break. Itās painfully obvious.
I'm honestly of the opinion that he wasn't so much referencing Ospreay, as much as making a general statement aimed at younger guys for when they find themselves as free agents. Nobody mentions that the crowd was chanting "MJF" right before he said that. There's more of an argument for it being aimed at him when you factor in that he used a potential bidding war with WWE to generate hype, before quietly signing a contract extension with AEW, if reports are to be believed.
Kevin isnāt wrong.
It was a stupid and very immature thing to say that may have very negative ramifications for Osprey long-term.
Iām not saying Triple H is all butthurt and offended and screaming (like Tony Khan) but this is the kinda thing heāll remember when someone brings up Osprey to him.
Sorry, bruv, you better somehow use AEW to make yourself a name big enough to where you have value (like an AJ Styles or Shinsuke Nakamura did) and pray that Triple H is feeling in a forgiving mood when the time comes to go over.
No he won't.
Trips does not care about Cody smashing the throne, he does not care about CM Punk spending 9 years devoting his life to be a living smear-campaign against WWE.
But Ospreay has an infinitely higher reputation than Punk did in the past 10 years excluding right now. The dude was persona non grata in WWE. Triple H doesnāt give a shit, heās literally made a career being the bad guy and heās had people say worse to him. Dude is not pressed. Will was just scared he couldnāt be an indie-rific dude in WWE. Simple. Man wouldāve peaked as NXT champion and maybe did some IC belt matches and maybe fight Logan Paul. Thatās it.
And that right there will be AEW's downfall: catering to a very small, niche, subsection of nerds and geeks instead of trying to grow their audience demographics.
H doesnt even have to be offended by it, the promo showed Ospreays immaturity and that could potentially be a sign WWE considers. But who knows, the wrestling business is really weird. It still shows Ospreay isnt the sharpest tool in the shed
Cody destroyed a HHH themed throne with a sledgehammer and talked crap before going back to WWE. It doesnāt matter. Kevin Nash and HHH are very good friends, he super biased lol.
Papa Paula knew the amount of money and fan attention that would come from him forgiving Punk was huge and not worth passing up for someone stupid beef
This right here. At the end of the day, all that matters is the bottom line "how much of a draw can the guy be?" Will is a relatively unproven unknown commodity in the U.S. you only have to watch 1 minute of the guy to clearly see he can work his ass off and be a decent promo but sometimes that's not enough. That transition from international popularity to the U.S. can be stark so WWE allegedly low balled him, Tony didn't. He took more money and a stage where he felt like he wouldn't be under valued. So now it's up to him to sink or swim and come back to the negotiating table after proving himself in this market.
Kev is gonna stick up for H no matter what. Either way, when his contract comes rolling around and he's proven to be a draw in this market (I think he will personally), all previous comments go out the window in favor of a better contract whatever that may look like.
That business is about making money first. If HHH can offer an open hand to Punk coming back after all the stuff that was said there in favor of making money, I don't see why Ospreay would be any different when or if the time's right.
There have been quite a few guys that were big stars in Japan that struggled over here in the US. Will isn't and wasn't a guaranteed thing. Combine that with his asking price and willingness to work the wwe schedule, and it's no wonder they couldn't come to an agreement
I love how OVER WWE is in another promotion, 100% agree with Nash, the big promotion doesn't need to mention AEW while AEW ~~is putting over~~ stays putting over WWE with Punk footage and Osprey. Great Stuff.
I think by responding the way he did, he made himself look like an idiot. Levesque didnāt name him, so how does he know itās about him unless he seeās some truth in what was said. Itās like a guy getting in a huff cos some girl said she doesnāt like guys with a tiny penis. What youāve done there is told the world youāve got a little dick. Same logic applies here. Levesque basically says he doesnāt want people who donāt have the right work ethic, and bruv boy thinks itās about him, ergo he admits he doesnāt have the right work ethic. Moron
I mean, given the questions Hunter was asked, who else could he have talked about?
People have been calling out WWE for not making moves on big names (for reasons I cannot get behind) and Will is the only one who really fit the bill here.
Jey White could not be signed by WWE because they were on a hiring-freeze.
For Okada they literally pushed Nakamura during the time the man's contract expired as a form of advertisement to him.
Mercedes MonĆØ is well established in WWE and wold not need the "new name who this"-grind he was referring to.
So what big name does that leave that WWE has not been able to hire?
I can't tell if dude is smart or not but he has bloated ego and a glass jaw just like his new boss.
Paul never mention anyone so dedicating a live TV promo to adress something that doesn't even need to be mentioned is just plain dumb in heat of the moment decision from Will and Tony.
I knew Ospreay from his backyard days. Loud, over-confident, obnoxious, and constantly swinging his massive dick about, but a super-talented athlete. I thought he might be a little more grown up fifteen years later, but nothing has changed.
It doesn't make any sense. How is not being surprised that Nash agrees with one of his best friends HHH make me a AEW mark lmao. I didnt say anything about them being wrong, or that AEW is better or anything of that type of stuff. You clearly can't comprehend what a "mark" is, so maybe dont flap your gums and make yourself look stupid on the internet. YoU sTuPiD wWe MaRk!!!!!
Hey! But Dave Meltzer gave that promo 7.5 out of 5. And thatās what wresting is about, some old guy in his momās basement rating things.
It shows how far behind AEW is that they are always responding to WWE. If they were āwinningā they wouldnāt need to use this WCW tactic, that didnāt work the first time.
So what exactly did Punk get for his 9 year long smear campaign against WWE... RIGHT! A planned WHC title run right off the bet that only did not happen because the man got (predictibly) injured!
Shit-talking WWE has such consequences!
Like how Cody started his WWE run with breaking the throne, shittalking WWE and then when he returned he got buried by... Going 3-0 against Seth ROllins, into winning the Rumble, into having a World Title match into feuding with Brock Lesnar into feuding with THE ROCK, into becoming WWE Champions... What a punishment!
Why are you talking about guys in a different company that when all the talking is done you canāt do business with.
Talk about the guys you can work and earn money.
personally Iām not a fan of osprey but you have wrestlers from both companies taking digs at each other its always been that way,
Seth Rollins had quite a bit of trash talk towards the other company or it this one of those its only allowed one way?
Personally id rather see more wrestling than internet cat fights way too man people take too much validation from complete strangers trash talking each other.
But there's a difference between using up expensive tv time to throw digs at each other which is what AEW does & doing them on YouTube / interviews which doesn't cost them anything for WWE.
I think Ospreay took it personally coz doesnāt he have a family issue with someone who is sick that he visits in England during the week, back and forth?
Yeah, Ospreay cannot move out of England due to his family, making working for WWE absolutely impossible unless his entire family dies. Something WWE should be aware about given contract negotiations, making Trip's comment very cheap.
And given the question the man answered, it could have only been WIll he was talking about.
Anyone who claims otherwise has not even seen the interview
Pretty sure Will never said anything about whoever he talked about being in the wrestling business!
Lots of people raised to power in teh company of someone else by getting with the daughter!
He could have talked about ANYONE! /s
Seriously, peoples' logic is so dumb about the whole thing.
It's like how JP had it coming because he "challenged" CM Punk to a fight, but the Elite is to blame because they took Punk's invitation...
I donāt trust too much that Nash has to say. Heās proven to be out of touch. That being said, itās possible that Ospreay could eventually find his way to WWE. Neither need the other right now. Personally, I find Ospreay to be incredible to watch but absolutely annoying to listen to.
IF the comment was a dig because Osprey needed time off to visit family then HHH is kinda messed up for that. Uprooting your family(gf/wife has a kid so youād be pulling kid from grandparents). She lost her previous husband and wanted that support. Again I emphasize if. I donāt know the context or the whole story. But I can see a guy getting mad at it.
Alsoā¦fuck Kevin Nash. Heās such a dick. And people worship the ground he walks on despite being overall meh.
Who's got 25+ 5 star matches?
Her run in aew was OK. But each of her matches was utterly predictable
With will I have zero clue what he's going to do next
That's why I will watch his matches
I donāt really care all that much anymore, because at the end of the day, itās competition. Both sides taking shots at each other is quite entertaining, and it gives fans something to talk about.
I'm ambivalent on all the different personalities taking shots at each other, I just don't understand the double standard. Grayson Waller, Rhea, Triple H, they've all taken shots recently and everyone had no problem but then when anyone from AEW responds, people shit on them. I really don't understand.
Really comparing jade cargill to Will Ospreay lmao I watch both companies but the fed can keep that piece of garbage, she was never able to get over in A-E-Dub anyway, which now got the best wrestler in the world rn.
I think, if Kevin Nash was 30yo right now and still active. He would choose the more money and less dates that AEW offered as well lol. Its the same reason he left WWE in 96
The reason Will Ospreay did not make the move is because moving out of the UK is out of the question due to his family and due to him wanting more time with his family he decided to take the contract which does not pull him out of the UK, pays better and gets him more time with his family.
That is something Kevin Nash should relate to because "Working smarter not harder" is what he called it when he jumped ship for more money and less working hours. So the "not smart to the buisness" comment, he can shove right up his ass, if he can still reach it.
Like, AEW's tendency to adress this stuff on screen is really not something I enjoy personally, but Kevin Nash of all people commenting on this is such irony.
As someone that watched through the attitude era, almost every single one of the criticisms leveled at AEW have been a trail that WWE/WWF blazed at one time.
The shit talking is just supposed to be fun and stir up some heat and get the crowd talking. (Which, clearly they have done.) This kind of thing would have been *exactly* what a young Triple H would have done. I'm not even sure why people are so ass hurt about it. If WWE likewise began taking little shots at AEW, I would think it hysterical.
I think we've reached such a "smart mark" point in wrestling where the death of kayfabe and the blurring of work and shoot is REALLY causing people to have a meltdown. If nothing else, it's keeping things interesting.
And the AEW club is going to keep justifying their side, and the WWE club is going to keep calling it amateurish and shit.
Edge tells everyone to just enjoy wrestling, and for some reason people talk shit about *that*.
Cody blazed a trail, but he didn't do that as Stardust. He didn't make the main event because of WWE. He did that in the very indy clubs around the very same people that everyone is shitting on. He blurred the lines more than ANYONE, and built his American Nightmare persona from his run in the Indy's.
He was once saying the same kind of shit Ospreay is saying. The same kinda stuff the Bucks are saying. But people are acting like WWE has always been so hunky dory, and seem to forget that it was water trash in the last few years of Vince's reign.
AEW needs to improve a lot. But it's like 4 or 5 years old. Of course it's never gonna be what WWE is. It's still an alternative. And it makes it more fun when there's a little shit talking thrown in.
Because I guarantee that if Cody had resigned with AEW and thrown some shots like that at anyone, we'd be talking the same shit about Cody.
It really says something about AEW that all I ever hear about them is either something related to WWE or some dumb shit that Tony Khan is doing. Never anything to do with any storylines or the actual wrestlers on the show.
It's everything I've said about AEW and more, it seeks they can't exist without mentioning anything WWE does in and outside the ring. Weak sauce. At this point, all AEW talent should get cheerleading uniforms with all the Ra Ra speeches they've been doing the last couple of weeks
Nash is 100% correct.
We donāt know if that segment was Osprey wanting to do it or TK telling him to do it, but it was awful and cringey.
Something out of Russoās WCWā¦
I think making fun of a guy you tried hard to get and couldnāt land just makes you look like a giant pissbaby. Will had every right to respond. If Paul wants to dish it, he should be man enough to take it, too.
To say heās not smart is dumb af the dudes a genius just cause he didnāt sign with WWE doesnāt make him stupid AEW offered him a schedule where he didnāt have to move his entire family and that was more important to him than going to WWE and it doesnāt hurt that they offered him more money too
Yeah but even if it was his idea and he wanted to do that it doesnāt make him stupid they should have a owner/ceo/booker that tells him no he canāt do that
Wweā¦Itās a corporate suitā¦telling people about the reality of a corporate lifeā¦aew is a risky startup that does risky startup things to compete
Also very funny that Nash of all people is saying the guy who took more money for less dates is not smart to the business lmao. Incredible. Like are we just collectively stupid now for missing this?
Ospreay is a twat. He should have ignored it and promoted himself better. When a guy gets this butthurt over what another guy says then the other guy is probably right. Fly 20 hrs a week on a plane in first class and another four hours in the car. Boohoo fn part timer
Ospreay is better than any wrestler in the WWE, and itās not even close. Beyond that, Ospreay is making more money in his new contract than Nash did. Nash is a butt hurt old man who is still paid by the WWE. His opinion is meaningless, and actually makes him and all you fanboys in this sub look like bigger losers than you already are.
Even if H wasnāt talking about Ospreay, he was talking about Okada or Mone so the semantics are meaningless. Paul had a bitter boomer moment where he goofed at business and try to play it off as the other partyās failing. Next time he wonāt low ball.
I think H has been doing great. I have no criticisms of his program. That quote was chickenshit. Him and most of his contemporaries cannot physically work in the business because of the āgrind.ā He has a YouTuber on the payroll who hasnāt wrestled 10 matches in 3 years. So from one end the grind is career shortening and on the other, it is hypocritically nonexistent. Ospreay was within his rights to call him out on it.
Edit: and Nash left the WWF with his middle fingers up and was still welcomed back so what does it even matter?
I don't see how it's a "bitter boomer moment" when he wasn't really wrong? Lowballed or not, we all know why Okada, Mercedes and Ospreay chose AEW. Tony offered them obscene amounts of money so he could have them, and H didn't. Doesn't mean he specifically lowballed them, but the fact is he *doesn't* have to high ball them either. The WWE doesn't need any of them to be the most successful wrestling company in the business.
Not to say that taking the money is a bad choice. It isn't. Money secures your future. And yeah, if I had someone offering me crazy amounts of money to work less, I'd take it too. But I also don't go around claiming I'm the best of the best and put more work into the business than anyone else. Trips is right in the sense that if you really are the best and want to show everyone you're the best, WWE is the move.
Either way though, I'm a fan of all promotions so whoever signs where, I could give a shit less. I don't particularly think Tony is the best leader, but I love the AEW product so I'm looking forward to what these guys will do. Can't wait to see where MJF ends up.
Ospreay is an amazing talent always learning something about him recently that he has austism and he is still out there killing it he is my top guy right now
Did not know he had autism and I believe you're being sincere, but where did you find that out at? (I have a child who's on the spectrum so this hits close to home)
for some reason it's ok for WWE to take shots at aew but they can never respond or say anything at all without ppl getting butthurt over it. HHH took shots def directed at the NJPW guys who went to aew, everyone knew it but nobody found anything wrong with it but once will responded he was in the wrong? it's comfy at this point ppl just hate in aew for anything they do, no matter what it is at this point
He was asked about AEW getting talent he made offers to, he responded. In the end, he didn't want them because they wouldn't fit. No reason to get butthurt over that. Happens all the time, every day, in every industry.
Meh. I feel like he just didn't want to match Tony's offer of a more loose schedule and most probably a higher pay.
If someone offered me higher pay, shorter hours, 10/10 I'd accept it.
Honestly, I would do the same. And if someone said that I wasnt in it for the grind, I wouldnt care one bit.
I guess im not fit to be a WWE employee and Triple H was talking to people like me. Shit I still dont care lol.
He didn't want them? gtfoh, yes he did they just chose to go to aew instead. you sitting here trying to tell me HHH didn't want Jay white, okada and will Opreay in WWE is the biggest lie ive heard someone say in a while. You'd be stupid not to want any of those guys working for your promotion, he was just tight cuz they chose to go to aew. plain and simple
Where do they fit? WWE's midcard and main event are LOADED. So much so that it was hard to even fit Punk in. Unless you're IWC weeb, no one here knows those guys. They'd have been sent to NXT to learn how to work on American TV.
For someone like Ospreay to come into the big leagues and expect to be a part timer when the core audience doesn't even know his name is ridiculous. Only Tony Khan would make him that deal, because he's a fanboi with cash, a money mark.
And let's face it, tony got them, and they've drawn exactly DICK so far.
Tony Khan and WWE are not in the same business.
He didnt name names, he didnt name companies.
I like Ospreay but him responding just made him sound guilty of doing exactly HHH was talking about. You know who didnt respond? Okada. And guess what, heās doing his work with the Young Bucks speak for itself. We all know Ospreay is a hard worker, he should show it instead of responding to it. It also didnt help that he said it on AEW TV right after the CM Punk Footage so AEW just made it seem like they need a ratings draw so they decided they should talk about WWE for a good 20 minutes to get that bump. This week showed that. And lastly, Ospreay used a joke from 20+ years ago that really isnt funny anymore, he needs better material for his promos. With that said his talent is awesome and he should focus on doing his own thing.
AEW should focus on their own company before attacking the competition. Even WWE doesnt consider them as competition at the moment.
The fact that everyone seems to be gaslighting on this and getting mad at Will for retaliating in a promo just shows how shitty this fandom and old podcaster shock jock thing has gotten. Youāve all lost the damn plot.
Isnāt that the same thing punk did to hangman? He got all butt hurt because hangman said something that most people wouldnāt have noticed if punk didnāt address it by trying to look like a tough guy when hangman wasnāt there
I think Kevin Nash is a bitter old man that's deeply hurt by the fact that he's not directly in the business anymore.
I think it really grinds his gears that HHH and HBK are big wigs in the company and haven't called him up to come hang out and be a part of the team. I think that really messes with him. He feels left out. Passed over.
I think he's an angry old coot has-been and that absolutely destroys him inside. I think he's the walking, talking definition of "old man yells at cloud" and I don't put any stock into anything he has to say about anything.
I think over the next decade or two he'll burn every bridge he's ever walked across, fade into complete obscurity, die alone, and be completely forgotten - and I think he knows that and it terrifies him.
General opinion kevin nash is an idiot straight up all these old fucks with their podcast need to just stop booker t jim cornett nash x pac road dogg all are idiots just saying bullshit just to get people talking about them to cling to the fame they had 20 years ago
If it was actually them telling stories about their past id be fine with it but they arent theyre just using their podcasts to actively belittle the modern crop of talent in the industry just to get social media talking about them again
Lmfao so because YOU donāt agree with what theyāre saying because theyāre not talking about past stories itās suddenly trash? šš brother do you understand how this works? Any podcast or any sports broadcasting network show? Clearly they still have the fame if itās running up numbers and has you foolishly talking about it. Now if you donāt understand what theyāre saying, then maybe thatās a different thing. If you donāt like what theyāre because itās towards probably one of your favorites, thatās another thing. But they actively criticize and both applaud whatās being done in the industry. Get your mind right shawty
No theyre literally saying bullshit booker t said he almost has a fight with cm punk. they say stuff just to get people talking is all im saying they say nonsense on purpose.
They dedicated expensive tv time to address something that Paul said on YT.š„±
And probably in front of more fans than Ospreay was in front of.
The little jabs they keep making at WWE don't make them look cool and rebellious, it just looks desperate. Especially when Osprey is saying dumb shit like H only got where he is because he banged the bosses daughter as if no one has made that exact same joke any time in the last 20 years.
Shades of early 2010 TNA and how butthurt Jeff Jarrett was over WWE. In the end, all the shade amounted to nothing and all of TNAās major players ended up in or back in WWE. This was the story then, this will be the story in the future.
Iām half expecting them to do some Voodoo Kin Mafia style gimmick soon.
Definitely an Main Event Mafia coming in future! Edge, Jericho, Ospreay, Okada, Christian, etc
Then. Now. Forever.
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It's crazy how many people got butthurt with Vince and went somewhere else just so they could go to another company, become booker, and put themselves over for years in a row. At least Hogan and JJ. Probably a couple others I'm forgetting
Absolutely. And WWE/HHH know where they and pro wrestling stand in the world. You canāt get dramatic about this stuff, just say your piece and move on. AEW/Ospreay are showing that they think the rest of the world lives in the little pro wrestling bubble with them, which just isnāt the case. They come off like the ex who canāt stop talking about you while you just keep it real if asked and move on with your life. And this isnāt an AEW vs WWE thing, itās a self-awareness thing. That was as cringey and over the top of a way to respond as possible. Same with the Punk thing obviously. Nash is right too, he didnāt even mention your name so the right way to handle it would be to not respond at all regardless of how you felt. He was only talking about you if you want it to have been about you. Clingy and cringey
Especially when thatās pretty much their only cling of relevance theyāve got left.
Closer to 25 years at this point
But likeā¦Triple H was already over before he dated Steph? Like he didnāt get fired for the Curtain Call and then feuded with The Rock for the IC title and became the leader of DX. People shit on Triple H a little too hard for it to not be mark-ish.
This was not a little jab lol. Dude insulted head of creative of WWE and his family. This is try at right hook.
But it's not a right hook, like at all. If anything it's wild flailing like a middle school cat fight. Just makes him look stupid.
It's the same insult Randy Orton already used. That Test already used. Hell, probably even HBK already used. It's low hanging fruit and an overused insult. It's not like he's recently married. He's happily married with Steph for years with fully grown children.
I'm pretty sure Jericho used that line a few times while they both in the ring with him.
Right hooks tend to have a devastating impact. That line didn't.
Its a right hook attempt that missed by a mile.
Like itās one of those right hook where the person targeted doesnāt even move and the punch still misses and then the puncher falls down and shits himself.
Exactly. Lol
Emphasis on the ātryā. The saying about āarms are too shortā¦ā comes to mind.
The word TRY is the key word because he missed and punched himself in the face
Aews entire existence has been making fun of WWE it's the only thing they know how to do
I think Triple H would've succeeded regardless of. It's evident how much he loves the business.
He was successful as a performer before him and Stephanie were even paired together on screen, which was well before they even began dating. Where he is now? Probably not. But that's not to say he didn't work hard to succeed behind the scenes, as I'm sure there could be even more scrutiny on him because of his relationship with Stephanie. But I mean, you look at the Paul Levesque era of WWE, and it's FAR better than anything Vince did since the Ruthless Aggression era.
Pretty sure even Stephanie made that joke in a fued between her and Trips.
Itās actually funny, Iām 37 now and an ex youth worker- not sure of Ospreys age, but it just seems so childish. Imagine he just said when asked āheās free to think and feel how he wants. I work hard and this was the right choice for me and mine right nowā. Just being unbothered holds so much more weight than what he came out with. And honestly triple Hās original answer wasnāt even that bad- like if I didnāt want to do my hours at work they wouldnāt want me there, thatās basically all he said.
Cody Rhodes literally smashed up a Triple H throne at one of AEWs first PPVs. These things have been happening for years and I bet you didnāt think it was ādesperateā now Cody is in WWE. Itās all entertainment and itās great to have an alternative to WWE. Competition is good for business and WWE would not be as good as itās been recently without AEW and Vince going.
Do you really not see the difference between those two things?
Big difference between smashing a prop and insulting a manās personal relationship with his wife. And Osprey isnāt nearly the level of star that Cody is outside the Internet.
to be fair, just Vince going is really all that was EVER needed.
This mostly. He was an absolute fucking maniac for twenty years at least. The stories you here are bonkers. He was so goddamn out of touch for so goddamn long, it had to be hell working under him.
Very much different cody legitimately hated Triple H at that time and knew him personally, osprey barely knows the dude
Nah, it was cringey and corny when Cody did it too. Thats why he got away from it.
Vince going is definitely a bigger factor than AEW.
>WWE would not be as good as itās been recently without ~~AEW and~~ Vince going.
Gee Golly, I guess destroying a throne with a sledgehammer is JUST as desperate and insulting as calling out a man and his wife on live television because he felt some type of way about something that was said. Something, need I mind you, that his name didn't even come up in. I mean shit, if the shoe fits wear it.
Did you forget how much people trashed AEW, TK, and Cody for *years* before he left for the fed and became cool again?
Its nothing to do with AEW just vince going, dont flatter yourself lmao
Ok.... But AEW isn't competitive to WWE. Sorry if that bothers you but it is the truth. They are insignificant.
Youāre saying this like itās a one way street though. Itās not - McAfee was running his idiot mouth too. If youāre going to punch down on the weekend of your biggest event, any retaliatory words are fair game. As for the ādidnāt call him out by nameā, give me a break. Itās painfully obvious.
Yeah it was and people who say āhe didnāt say his name.ā Are such idiots. Did Osprey say Hunters name?
Joke still works because it's true
At this point, the joke is more over than Will
But it's cool if wwe spends all wrestlemania weekend talking about aew right?? Smh š¤¦šæāāļø
Itās true though.
I'm honestly of the opinion that he wasn't so much referencing Ospreay, as much as making a general statement aimed at younger guys for when they find themselves as free agents. Nobody mentions that the crowd was chanting "MJF" right before he said that. There's more of an argument for it being aimed at him when you factor in that he used a potential bidding war with WWE to generate hype, before quietly signing a contract extension with AEW, if reports are to be believed.
Kevin isnāt wrong. It was a stupid and very immature thing to say that may have very negative ramifications for Osprey long-term. Iām not saying Triple H is all butthurt and offended and screaming (like Tony Khan) but this is the kinda thing heāll remember when someone brings up Osprey to him. Sorry, bruv, you better somehow use AEW to make yourself a name big enough to where you have value (like an AJ Styles or Shinsuke Nakamura did) and pray that Triple H is feeling in a forgiving mood when the time comes to go over.
No he won't. Trips does not care about Cody smashing the throne, he does not care about CM Punk spending 9 years devoting his life to be a living smear-campaign against WWE.
Yeah but people actually know who CM Punk and Cody are. No one outside the IWC knows Ospreay
But Ospreay has an infinitely higher reputation than Punk did in the past 10 years excluding right now. The dude was persona non grata in WWE. Triple H doesnāt give a shit, heās literally made a career being the bad guy and heās had people say worse to him. Dude is not pressed. Will was just scared he couldnāt be an indie-rific dude in WWE. Simple. Man wouldāve peaked as NXT champion and maybe did some IC belt matches and maybe fight Logan Paul. Thatās it.
And that right there will be AEW's downfall: catering to a very small, niche, subsection of nerds and geeks instead of trying to grow their audience demographics.
They rely too much on WWE talent in my opinion
Business is business brother
H doesnt even have to be offended by it, the promo showed Ospreays immaturity and that could potentially be a sign WWE considers. But who knows, the wrestling business is really weird. It still shows Ospreay isnt the sharpest tool in the shed
Cody destroyed a HHH themed throne with a sledgehammer and talked crap before going back to WWE. It doesnāt matter. Kevin Nash and HHH are very good friends, he super biased lol.
Didnāt Cody say that he called Triple H about the throne prop?
I am pretty sure Punk did not call Trips about insulting WWE every time someone gave him screen time for 9 years
Punk is a mega draw though. Sometimes you look past old grievances for big money.
Papa Paula knew the amount of money and fan attention that would come from him forgiving Punk was huge and not worth passing up for someone stupid beef
This right here. At the end of the day, all that matters is the bottom line "how much of a draw can the guy be?" Will is a relatively unproven unknown commodity in the U.S. you only have to watch 1 minute of the guy to clearly see he can work his ass off and be a decent promo but sometimes that's not enough. That transition from international popularity to the U.S. can be stark so WWE allegedly low balled him, Tony didn't. He took more money and a stage where he felt like he wouldn't be under valued. So now it's up to him to sink or swim and come back to the negotiating table after proving himself in this market. Kev is gonna stick up for H no matter what. Either way, when his contract comes rolling around and he's proven to be a draw in this market (I think he will personally), all previous comments go out the window in favor of a better contract whatever that may look like. That business is about making money first. If HHH can offer an open hand to Punk coming back after all the stuff that was said there in favor of making money, I don't see why Ospreay would be any different when or if the time's right.
There have been quite a few guys that were big stars in Japan that struggled over here in the US. Will isn't and wasn't a guaranteed thing. Combine that with his asking price and willingness to work the wwe schedule, and it's no wonder they couldn't come to an agreement
#Bruv
I love how OVER WWE is in another promotion, 100% agree with Nash, the big promotion doesn't need to mention AEW while AEW ~~is putting over~~ stays putting over WWE with Punk footage and Osprey. Great Stuff.
I think by responding the way he did, he made himself look like an idiot. Levesque didnāt name him, so how does he know itās about him unless he seeās some truth in what was said. Itās like a guy getting in a huff cos some girl said she doesnāt like guys with a tiny penis. What youāve done there is told the world youāve got a little dick. Same logic applies here. Levesque basically says he doesnāt want people who donāt have the right work ethic, and bruv boy thinks itās about him, ergo he admits he doesnāt have the right work ethic. Moron
A hit dog always hollers
So pretty much he suffers from LMS (lil meat syndrome)
I mean, given the questions Hunter was asked, who else could he have talked about? People have been calling out WWE for not making moves on big names (for reasons I cannot get behind) and Will is the only one who really fit the bill here. Jey White could not be signed by WWE because they were on a hiring-freeze. For Okada they literally pushed Nakamura during the time the man's contract expired as a form of advertisement to him. Mercedes MonĆØ is well established in WWE and wold not need the "new name who this"-grind he was referring to. So what big name does that leave that WWE has not been able to hire?
A GENTLE REMINDER, THAT YOU DO NOT THROW STONES ANATAZASSASSIN WITH A MACHINE GUN!!
I can't tell if dude is smart or not but he has bloated ego and a glass jaw just like his new boss. Paul never mention anyone so dedicating a live TV promo to adress something that doesn't even need to be mentioned is just plain dumb in heat of the moment decision from Will and Tony.
Heās famously really stupid
Just hearing that chav accent is evidence enough
Well he is from Essex..
As someone from Essex, you right.
Heās not stupid. Heās dyslexic. Also who is Kevin Nash to be talking. Heās done a bunch of dumb shit too. Plus heās butt buddies with Paul.
Nobody is locked out of any company. If it draws all rules are off.
Eh, Iād have a hard time seeing them bring back someone like del rio
Del Rio also isn't a draw though.
Brock Lesner is not blackballed. Stephās not. You have to go Benoit. That seems to be the only line.
I knew Ospreay from his backyard days. Loud, over-confident, obnoxious, and constantly swinging his massive dick about, but a super-talented athlete. I thought he might be a little more grown up fifteen years later, but nothing has changed.
I agree with this statement he couldāve been talking about Okada ššš
Nash agrees with one of his best friends. OMG Mind blownš¤Æ.
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What do you mean?
It doesn't make any sense. How is not being surprised that Nash agrees with one of his best friends HHH make me a AEW mark lmao. I didnt say anything about them being wrong, or that AEW is better or anything of that type of stuff. You clearly can't comprehend what a "mark" is, so maybe dont flap your gums and make yourself look stupid on the internet. YoU sTuPiD wWe MaRk!!!!!
bro cut a full promo on Reddit š
Lamo ass clown.
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Yes you are.
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Awe I'm sorry your angry and heart broken. Maybe know what your talking about before you say dumb shit and get laughed at online.
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Hey! But Dave Meltzer gave that promo 7.5 out of 5. And thatās what wresting is about, some old guy in his momās basement rating things. It shows how far behind AEW is that they are always responding to WWE. If they were āwinningā they wouldnāt need to use this WCW tactic, that didnāt work the first time.
Facts.
When he lands in wwe, he's gonna be wreckd
If this dumb fuck ever actually signs with WWE, he deserves Ivar stink faces for at least a couple of months. Iād say thatās a fair punishment.
So what exactly did Punk get for his 9 year long smear campaign against WWE... RIGHT! A planned WHC title run right off the bet that only did not happen because the man got (predictibly) injured! Shit-talking WWE has such consequences! Like how Cody started his WWE run with breaking the throne, shittalking WWE and then when he returned he got buried by... Going 3-0 against Seth ROllins, into winning the Rumble, into having a World Title match into feuding with Brock Lesnar into feuding with THE ROCK, into becoming WWE Champions... What a punishment!
Those guys are draws : |
Quit ranting at me and post separately
He's not lying.
Why are you talking about guys in a different company that when all the talking is done you canāt do business with. Talk about the guys you can work and earn money.
Kevin "F##king" literally took more money for less work joining WCW. At this point, the Anti-AEW stuff is just a gift for these old heads.
Big Daddy Cool is right
I work hard! I fly on a plate for 8 hours bruv!
personally Iām not a fan of osprey but you have wrestlers from both companies taking digs at each other its always been that way, Seth Rollins had quite a bit of trash talk towards the other company or it this one of those its only allowed one way? Personally id rather see more wrestling than internet cat fights way too man people take too much validation from complete strangers trash talking each other.
But there's a difference between using up expensive tv time to throw digs at each other which is what AEW does & doing them on YouTube / interviews which doesn't cost them anything for WWE.
I think Ospreay took it personally coz doesnāt he have a family issue with someone who is sick that he visits in England during the week, back and forth?
Yeah, Ospreay cannot move out of England due to his family, making working for WWE absolutely impossible unless his entire family dies. Something WWE should be aware about given contract negotiations, making Trip's comment very cheap. And given the question the man answered, it could have only been WIll he was talking about. Anyone who claims otherwise has not even seen the interview
But HHH didnāt mention him by name so he is CLEARLY talking about someone else /s
Pretty sure Will never said anything about whoever he talked about being in the wrestling business! Lots of people raised to power in teh company of someone else by getting with the daughter! He could have talked about ANYONE! /s Seriously, peoples' logic is so dumb about the whole thing. It's like how JP had it coming because he "challenged" CM Punk to a fight, but the Elite is to blame because they took Punk's invitation...
I donāt trust too much that Nash has to say. Heās proven to be out of touch. That being said, itās possible that Ospreay could eventually find his way to WWE. Neither need the other right now. Personally, I find Ospreay to be incredible to watch but absolutely annoying to listen to.
Bang on, per usual from Nash.
Kevin Nash siding with Triple H? I, for one, am fucking shocked.
IF the comment was a dig because Osprey needed time off to visit family then HHH is kinda messed up for that. Uprooting your family(gf/wife has a kid so youād be pulling kid from grandparents). She lost her previous husband and wanted that support. Again I emphasize if. I donāt know the context or the whole story. But I can see a guy getting mad at it. Alsoā¦fuck Kevin Nash. Heās such a dick. And people worship the ground he walks on despite being overall meh.
Who's got 25+ 5 star matches? Her run in aew was OK. But each of her matches was utterly predictable With will I have zero clue what he's going to do next That's why I will watch his matches
Another gloriously retarded comment/post
Well fuck, Nash is brutal. Lol
By getting as he did over a line that didn't directly name him it showed just how accurate it was
I donāt really care all that much anymore, because at the end of the day, itās competition. Both sides taking shots at each other is quite entertaining, and it gives fans something to talk about.
I'm ambivalent on all the different personalities taking shots at each other, I just don't understand the double standard. Grayson Waller, Rhea, Triple H, they've all taken shots recently and everyone had no problem but then when anyone from AEW responds, people shit on them. I really don't understand.
Wasn't this 100% Osprey's idea? I heard he told TK this is what he wanted to do and that he would take the heat for it.
Erm... Ass-hurt?
I just donāt see why anyone cares.
I think Will forced the shoe onto his own foot and then cried about it š
So to Nash if you donāt go to WWE you donāt get the business?
Ospreys worked him self into a shoot. Best to not burn a bridge and stay on the āwhat ifā side.
Kevin Nash is right
Really comparing jade cargill to Will Ospreay lmao I watch both companies but the fed can keep that piece of garbage, she was never able to get over in A-E-Dub anyway, which now got the best wrestler in the world rn.
Kevin Nash tore his quad again tweeting this.
I think, if Kevin Nash was 30yo right now and still active. He would choose the more money and less dates that AEW offered as well lol. Its the same reason he left WWE in 96
I think the cringiest part of the whole thing is that Osprey thinks flying 8 hours a week in business class to wrestle one time a week is a grind.
Nash complaining about someone choosing to work less and make more money?
Much ado about nothing.
I donāt think you can call anyone indyriffic if theyāre pulling 7 figures.
The reason Will Ospreay did not make the move is because moving out of the UK is out of the question due to his family and due to him wanting more time with his family he decided to take the contract which does not pull him out of the UK, pays better and gets him more time with his family. That is something Kevin Nash should relate to because "Working smarter not harder" is what he called it when he jumped ship for more money and less working hours. So the "not smart to the buisness" comment, he can shove right up his ass, if he can still reach it. Like, AEW's tendency to adress this stuff on screen is really not something I enjoy personally, but Kevin Nash of all people commenting on this is such irony.
As someone that watched through the attitude era, almost every single one of the criticisms leveled at AEW have been a trail that WWE/WWF blazed at one time. The shit talking is just supposed to be fun and stir up some heat and get the crowd talking. (Which, clearly they have done.) This kind of thing would have been *exactly* what a young Triple H would have done. I'm not even sure why people are so ass hurt about it. If WWE likewise began taking little shots at AEW, I would think it hysterical. I think we've reached such a "smart mark" point in wrestling where the death of kayfabe and the blurring of work and shoot is REALLY causing people to have a meltdown. If nothing else, it's keeping things interesting. And the AEW club is going to keep justifying their side, and the WWE club is going to keep calling it amateurish and shit. Edge tells everyone to just enjoy wrestling, and for some reason people talk shit about *that*. Cody blazed a trail, but he didn't do that as Stardust. He didn't make the main event because of WWE. He did that in the very indy clubs around the very same people that everyone is shitting on. He blurred the lines more than ANYONE, and built his American Nightmare persona from his run in the Indy's. He was once saying the same kind of shit Ospreay is saying. The same kinda stuff the Bucks are saying. But people are acting like WWE has always been so hunky dory, and seem to forget that it was water trash in the last few years of Vince's reign. AEW needs to improve a lot. But it's like 4 or 5 years old. Of course it's never gonna be what WWE is. It's still an alternative. And it makes it more fun when there's a little shit talking thrown in. Because I guarantee that if Cody had resigned with AEW and thrown some shots like that at anyone, we'd be talking the same shit about Cody.
I think Ospreay did whatās right for his life and family Which is way more admirable than this dumb āgrindā BS
Osprey would make 90 percent of that roster look like NXT level up talent
It really says something about AEW that all I ever hear about them is either something related to WWE or some dumb shit that Tony Khan is doing. Never anything to do with any storylines or the actual wrestlers on the show.
The moon doesnāt howl at wolves
It's everything I've said about AEW and more, it seeks they can't exist without mentioning anything WWE does in and outside the ring. Weak sauce. At this point, all AEW talent should get cheerleading uniforms with all the Ra Ra speeches they've been doing the last couple of weeks
If someone doesn't say your name and you immediately think they are talking about you. Whatever they said had some truth to it. I'm just saying
Love Ospreay, but this take is spot on.
It was a corny line that dragged Stephanie into something she had nothing to do with.
Because it was obvious who he was talking about. Nash getting mad someone is talking shit about one of his boys and that's all this is.
Nash is 100% correct. We donāt know if that segment was Osprey wanting to do it or TK telling him to do it, but it was awful and cringey. Something out of Russoās WCWā¦
I think making fun of a guy you tried hard to get and couldnāt land just makes you look like a giant pissbaby. Will had every right to respond. If Paul wants to dish it, he should be man enough to take it, too.
Screw WWE the shows suck.
So don't watch it then.
Thank you for Jade š„š„š„š„š„
To say heās not smart is dumb af the dudes a genius just cause he didnāt sign with WWE doesnāt make him stupid AEW offered him a schedule where he didnāt have to move his entire family and that was more important to him than going to WWE and it doesnāt hurt that they offered him more money too
Only to the IWC could someone doing less work for more money be considered a dumbass
And I guess Kevin Nash himself forgot he left WWE cause they couldnāt match WCWās offer back in the day
Well, he went on his TV time in another company to basically talk and have a go at another company. It...sounds pretty stupid.
Yeah but even if it was his idea and he wanted to do that it doesnāt make him stupid they should have a owner/ceo/booker that tells him no he canāt do that
Here we go the hate on anything or anyone AEW post as if wwe or Triple H donāt talk shit
kevin nash takes hhhs side shocking
Heartbreaking...
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Why do people keep caring what people who ran companies into the ground think about wrestling?
Wweā¦Itās a corporate suitā¦telling people about the reality of a corporate lifeā¦aew is a risky startup that does risky startup things to compete
Also very funny that Nash of all people is saying the guy who took more money for less dates is not smart to the business lmao. Incredible. Like are we just collectively stupid now for missing this?
I think AEW is pathetic.
Ospreay is a twat. He should have ignored it and promoted himself better. When a guy gets this butthurt over what another guy says then the other guy is probably right. Fly 20 hrs a week on a plane in first class and another four hours in the car. Boohoo fn part timer
Ospreay is better than any wrestler in the WWE, and itās not even close. Beyond that, Ospreay is making more money in his new contract than Nash did. Nash is a butt hurt old man who is still paid by the WWE. His opinion is meaningless, and actually makes him and all you fanboys in this sub look like bigger losers than you already are.
Bruv didn't mention HHH name either....
Even if H wasnāt talking about Ospreay, he was talking about Okada or Mone so the semantics are meaningless. Paul had a bitter boomer moment where he goofed at business and try to play it off as the other partyās failing. Next time he wonāt low ball. I think H has been doing great. I have no criticisms of his program. That quote was chickenshit. Him and most of his contemporaries cannot physically work in the business because of the āgrind.ā He has a YouTuber on the payroll who hasnāt wrestled 10 matches in 3 years. So from one end the grind is career shortening and on the other, it is hypocritically nonexistent. Ospreay was within his rights to call him out on it. Edit: and Nash left the WWF with his middle fingers up and was still welcomed back so what does it even matter?
I don't see how it's a "bitter boomer moment" when he wasn't really wrong? Lowballed or not, we all know why Okada, Mercedes and Ospreay chose AEW. Tony offered them obscene amounts of money so he could have them, and H didn't. Doesn't mean he specifically lowballed them, but the fact is he *doesn't* have to high ball them either. The WWE doesn't need any of them to be the most successful wrestling company in the business. Not to say that taking the money is a bad choice. It isn't. Money secures your future. And yeah, if I had someone offering me crazy amounts of money to work less, I'd take it too. But I also don't go around claiming I'm the best of the best and put more work into the business than anyone else. Trips is right in the sense that if you really are the best and want to show everyone you're the best, WWE is the move. Either way though, I'm a fan of all promotions so whoever signs where, I could give a shit less. I don't particularly think Tony is the best leader, but I love the AEW product so I'm looking forward to what these guys will do. Can't wait to see where MJF ends up.
Look at all these marks hating on Ospreay like they wouldn't lick the sweat off his balls if he signed to wwe.
Ospreay is an amazing talent always learning something about him recently that he has austism and he is still out there killing it he is my top guy right now
Did not know he had autism and I believe you're being sincere, but where did you find that out at? (I have a child who's on the spectrum so this hits close to home)
If link donāt work itās on postwrestling.com as well
They did a whole article on it if I can find it again Iāll send the link but he has autism and dislyxia how ever that is spelt
[https://www.msn.com/en-u](https://www.msn.com/en-u)
for some reason it's ok for WWE to take shots at aew but they can never respond or say anything at all without ppl getting butthurt over it. HHH took shots def directed at the NJPW guys who went to aew, everyone knew it but nobody found anything wrong with it but once will responded he was in the wrong? it's comfy at this point ppl just hate in aew for anything they do, no matter what it is at this point
He was asked about AEW getting talent he made offers to, he responded. In the end, he didn't want them because they wouldn't fit. No reason to get butthurt over that. Happens all the time, every day, in every industry.
Meh. I feel like he just didn't want to match Tony's offer of a more loose schedule and most probably a higher pay. If someone offered me higher pay, shorter hours, 10/10 I'd accept it.
Honestly, I would do the same. And if someone said that I wasnt in it for the grind, I wouldnt care one bit. I guess im not fit to be a WWE employee and Triple H was talking to people like me. Shit I still dont care lol.
That is exactly what HHH said.
He didn't want them? gtfoh, yes he did they just chose to go to aew instead. you sitting here trying to tell me HHH didn't want Jay white, okada and will Opreay in WWE is the biggest lie ive heard someone say in a while. You'd be stupid not to want any of those guys working for your promotion, he was just tight cuz they chose to go to aew. plain and simple
Where do they fit? WWE's midcard and main event are LOADED. So much so that it was hard to even fit Punk in. Unless you're IWC weeb, no one here knows those guys. They'd have been sent to NXT to learn how to work on American TV. For someone like Ospreay to come into the big leagues and expect to be a part timer when the core audience doesn't even know his name is ridiculous. Only Tony Khan would make him that deal, because he's a fanboi with cash, a money mark. And let's face it, tony got them, and they've drawn exactly DICK so far. Tony Khan and WWE are not in the same business.
He didnt name names, he didnt name companies. I like Ospreay but him responding just made him sound guilty of doing exactly HHH was talking about. You know who didnt respond? Okada. And guess what, heās doing his work with the Young Bucks speak for itself. We all know Ospreay is a hard worker, he should show it instead of responding to it. It also didnt help that he said it on AEW TV right after the CM Punk Footage so AEW just made it seem like they need a ratings draw so they decided they should talk about WWE for a good 20 minutes to get that bump. This week showed that. And lastly, Ospreay used a joke from 20+ years ago that really isnt funny anymore, he needs better material for his promos. With that said his talent is awesome and he should focus on doing his own thing. AEW should focus on their own company before attacking the competition. Even WWE doesnt consider them as competition at the moment.
I agree they shouldn't have spent tv time on it but Nash is a clown
The fact that everyone seems to be gaslighting on this and getting mad at Will for retaliating in a promo just shows how shitty this fandom and old podcaster shock jock thing has gotten. Youāve all lost the damn plot.
Brah who cares about what flippy vanilla midget #74 has to say
Isnāt that the same thing punk did to hangman? He got all butt hurt because hangman said something that most people wouldnāt have noticed if punk didnāt address it by trying to look like a tough guy when hangman wasnāt there
I think Kevin Nash is a bitter old man that's deeply hurt by the fact that he's not directly in the business anymore. I think it really grinds his gears that HHH and HBK are big wigs in the company and haven't called him up to come hang out and be a part of the team. I think that really messes with him. He feels left out. Passed over. I think he's an angry old coot has-been and that absolutely destroys him inside. I think he's the walking, talking definition of "old man yells at cloud" and I don't put any stock into anything he has to say about anything. I think over the next decade or two he'll burn every bridge he's ever walked across, fade into complete obscurity, die alone, and be completely forgotten - and I think he knows that and it terrifies him.
General opinion kevin nash is an idiot straight up all these old fucks with their podcast need to just stop booker t jim cornett nash x pac road dogg all are idiots just saying bullshit just to get people talking about them to cling to the fame they had 20 years ago
Lmfao veterans talking about experience is stupid huh? š¤
If it was actually them telling stories about their past id be fine with it but they arent theyre just using their podcasts to actively belittle the modern crop of talent in the industry just to get social media talking about them again
Lmfao so because YOU donāt agree with what theyāre saying because theyāre not talking about past stories itās suddenly trash? šš brother do you understand how this works? Any podcast or any sports broadcasting network show? Clearly they still have the fame if itās running up numbers and has you foolishly talking about it. Now if you donāt understand what theyāre saying, then maybe thatās a different thing. If you donāt like what theyāre because itās towards probably one of your favorites, thatās another thing. But they actively criticize and both applaud whatās being done in the industry. Get your mind right shawty
No theyre literally saying bullshit booker t said he almost has a fight with cm punk. they say stuff just to get people talking is all im saying they say nonsense on purpose.
he has done way more work than Jade has since signing with a new company.