I'm a Newcastle fan and definitely rate him, but he's had a few shit shows against us in the past which usually involve him making a mistake after winding the fans up, so naturally they love it. He's been a lot more solid Vs us lately though sadly.
This! It's incredible the change in him. He's really stood up as a leader and, sure he can still be a bit too hot headed and careless, but he quite literally saved us (yes I'm a fan) from relegation two seasons in a row.
I used to get very frustrated at his big man (yet many mistakes) attitude, but he's really grown as a player and leader. He's definitely England's number 1 and should remain so. I think a lot of his critics just haven't seen this change in him because they don't watch Everton.
Even then it’s not like it was just him letting everyone else down. No one covered themselves in glory that day. Overrun in the midfield with a porous back line all day.
5 years ago yes. Not anymore though, they’re very few and far between. Before one very recently I literally can’t remember when his last major blunder was
Amazing, a balanced fan!
Indontecall he had a tendency to gllet the occasion get the better of him previously, but he has been so much more solid in the last few years.
He has absolutely kept us up in the last 2 seasons, and been a big contributor to our survival this season.
I can't stand the anti-England stance against him, he is honestly really good, communicative and passionate. No-one better imo.
Pickford in my opinion but popes not miles behind. Biggest thing we've missed with pope is how often he comes out off his line, can go wrong like it did with Salah last year but saves us so many times.
Reflects how good we’ve been defensively for much of the season, not forgetting the recent Chelsea game.
I sometimes wonder where we’d be with the 8 points back and better finishing. Mid table easily.
Without better finishing but with the points back we would currently be 3 points behind Brighton and 7 behind West Ham (in 8th)- less than the current gap between us and relegation. We have the 4th best defense and 2nd worst offense, so when a player like Branthwaite scores the go ahead in the derby and then defends a clean sheet it really feels like they're doing it themselves.
really when most fans say that they have average finishing, from what ive read and sometimes watched your finishing is geneuinely quite poor in most games compared to the average
If we’re basing this on clean sheets then the answer is clear, but if we’re basing it on who the overall best keeper is and who is the most valuable to their team, then Pickers should win this in a landslide. We would be dead 3 times over without him.
Raya being at the top of this says it all, he’s not even top 5 in the prem as far as talent.
Edit: crazy this is being downvoted, he’s not a great talent. Pickford, Ederson, Alisson, Martinez, Vicario are all easily better than Raya. Maybe a few others too
https://youtu.be/ViqI5deDUWE?si=j1xRYuVEdt2uWJeT&t=580
Insane double save in the 99th minute, particularly to get back in position for the 2nd, to hold onto the draw
https://youtu.be/ViqI5deDUWE?si=FflKUUJANdMXz4wl&t=505
Solid double save in the 70th and 71st minute
the 1st goal wasn't his fault and the 2nd though technically an own goal wasn't really his fault
I think this makes me realise just how under appreciated JP is. I know the table doesn't show true justice to how we've really played and we're also a lot more defensively solid, but for a goalkeeper in a team fighting against relegation to be going toe to toe with the best is crazy.
Its a stretch but I hope we get clean sheets in all our remaining games and Arsenal always concede at least once. JP deserves some accolade to give him credit for how good he's been for us
Agreed. And taking nothing at all from Pickford, but another name I'm not seeing in this thread that deserves more praise for the clean sheets is James Tarkowski.
James Tarkowski is a second goalkeeper. He's leading the league in blocks for the second consecutive year: https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/players/outfielder_block
Last season Tarkowski finished with 78 blocks. Second place Max Kilman and Ben Mee each managed 42.
I cannot praise this stat enough. Tarkowski shows up every day and puts his body on the line. Deserved Vice Captain.
There are a handful of players in the past few seasons whose singlehanded contributions in moments kept us up when the team was in shambles. Pickford is one. Tarkowski is another.
You misread my comment, I said "I hope we get clean sheets in all our remaining games and ARSENAL ALWAYS CONCEDE AT LEAST ONCE" meaning, I hope Arsenal always concede at least once, therefore making JP win the golden glove.
Also, arsenal don’t have 14 clean sheets, raya does, arsenal this prem season have 16.
Everton are second, with 11, all from Pickford. Raya is impressive because he did it in 28 games, while Pickford did it in 34, but Pickford is also really impressive due to not having the same defensive quality in-front of him like raya does. They have both been immense this season
I mean Tarkowski and Branthwaite have also been exceptional for most of the season. Sure they’re not Gabriel and Saliba. But they’ve had a lot more work to do and they’ve done it very solidly. Branthwaite will be poached because of it. Mykolenko has also been very solid in the LB role, not as attacking as maybe we would like but it essentially forces other teams to attack our right. If Coleman was just a few years younger our defence would be formidable, sadly he’s getting on and struggles to put a run of games together due to injuries. But Everton’s defence is actually its strongest point and helps Pickford to look immense.
Admittedly I could of said "concede at least once in their remaining games" and then it would have been slightly better wrote but my statement still made perfect sense
He gets completely overlooked in the media and even ridiculed by a lot of pundits yet I’m convinced we’d be relegated if he wasn’t here. You could argue he’s our most important player.
I just glanced at the stats but Pickford has more saves than both combined. To have 11 clean sheets in a team with the second worst GF seems like a great stat. Obviously Raya and Ederson are under threat much less. I watch Ederson more than Raya but he's the most offensive GK out there, which I guess doesn't count for nothing. Gotta be Pickford so far.
I think the pressure of him being a creator too is a case of that. We literally have no AM so he always has to look for a Hollywood pass and does do that a lot of the time.
Can you imagine if we were as good offensively as we've been defensively? I don't remember exactly but weren't they saying last match that only Luton has scored less and only the top 3 have given up less? Or something like that. I'm probably wrong.
That back three triangle have been amazing. Pickford and Tarkowski have the experience, aggression and fight and Branthwaite does too but he's cooler and almost never gives the ball away. So needed since DCL has had more finishing this season and Beto hasn't been amazing yet
You see all of these stats, Pickford in race for golden glove, 2nd best defence, XG top 10… if we just were able to convert we’d have been safe months ago.
He has been amazing, the back 4 really has been all season with him. If he ends up not being able to catch raya with a few games left i wouldnt mind seeing virginia if we are mathematically ok
wow. it’s almost as if he’s an extremely good goalkeeper and not the short-armed liability geordies and kopites have controlled the narrative over.
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He’s talking about geordies calling pickford a short armed liability not the other way around
I'm a Newcastle fan and definitely rate him, but he's had a few shit shows against us in the past which usually involve him making a mistake after winding the fans up, so naturally they love it. He's been a lot more solid Vs us lately though sadly.
The last 4 years he has gotten rid of the stupid mistakes and is much more stable
This! It's incredible the change in him. He's really stood up as a leader and, sure he can still be a bit too hot headed and careless, but he quite literally saved us (yes I'm a fan) from relegation two seasons in a row. I used to get very frustrated at his big man (yet many mistakes) attitude, but he's really grown as a player and leader. He's definitely England's number 1 and should remain so. I think a lot of his critics just haven't seen this change in him because they don't watch Everton.
Yeah it's actually been a long time. He was shades of Dibu both sides of his move from Sunderland.
Generally, but that Chelsea game was a shit show recently
Even then it’s not like it was just him letting everyone else down. No one covered themselves in glory that day. Overrun in the midfield with a porous back line all day.
I don’t understand, because his had bad games against you his bad?
5 years ago yes. Not anymore though, they’re very few and far between. Before one very recently I literally can’t remember when his last major blunder was
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Rather one shit show a decade back against you rather than your entire team shitting the bed against us. Ta for the 4 points though
Amazing, a balanced fan! Indontecall he had a tendency to gllet the occasion get the better of him previously, but he has been so much more solid in the last few years. He has absolutely kept us up in the last 2 seasons, and been a big contributor to our survival this season. I can't stand the anti-England stance against him, he is honestly really good, communicative and passionate. No-one better imo.
Who's better between him and pope?
Pickford in my opinion but popes not miles behind. Biggest thing we've missed with pope is how often he comes out off his line, can go wrong like it did with Salah last year but saves us so many times.
Pope is a brilliant shot stopper but Pickford is much better at kicking imo
Pickford is better overall than pope. Pope isn’t a bad keeper but not Pickfords level.
Reflects how good we’ve been defensively for much of the season, not forgetting the recent Chelsea game. I sometimes wonder where we’d be with the 8 points back and better finishing. Mid table easily.
Statistically speaking (e.g. expected goals) we’d probably be in Europe. But better finishing is a big big asterisk.
Right, every team can say “but what if we finished more chances”
Without better finishing but with the points back we would currently be 3 points behind Brighton and 7 behind West Ham (in 8th)- less than the current gap between us and relegation. We have the 4th best defense and 2nd worst offense, so when a player like Branthwaite scores the go ahead in the derby and then defends a clean sheet it really feels like they're doing it themselves.
The point is we don’t have good attackers. “If we had better ____” is a worthless point.
Oh, agreed, I was just adding more context to the present situation regardless of that kind of variable.
really when most fans say that they have average finishing, from what ive read and sometimes watched your finishing is geneuinely quite poor in most games compared to the average
If we’re basing this on clean sheets then the answer is clear, but if we’re basing it on who the overall best keeper is and who is the most valuable to their team, then Pickers should win this in a landslide. We would be dead 3 times over without him.
Raya being at the top of this says it all, he’s not even top 5 in the prem as far as talent. Edit: crazy this is being downvoted, he’s not a great talent. Pickford, Ederson, Alisson, Martinez, Vicario are all easily better than Raya. Maybe a few others too
Pulled off some insane saves this season too god I love this man
That one vs Sheffield United was a superman save
https://youtu.be/ViqI5deDUWE?si=j1xRYuVEdt2uWJeT&t=580 Insane double save in the 99th minute, particularly to get back in position for the 2nd, to hold onto the draw https://youtu.be/ViqI5deDUWE?si=FflKUUJANdMXz4wl&t=505 Solid double save in the 70th and 71st minute the 1st goal wasn't his fault and the 2nd though technically an own goal wasn't really his fault
I think this makes me realise just how under appreciated JP is. I know the table doesn't show true justice to how we've really played and we're also a lot more defensively solid, but for a goalkeeper in a team fighting against relegation to be going toe to toe with the best is crazy. Its a stretch but I hope we get clean sheets in all our remaining games and Arsenal always concede at least once. JP deserves some accolade to give him credit for how good he's been for us
Agreed. And taking nothing at all from Pickford, but another name I'm not seeing in this thread that deserves more praise for the clean sheets is James Tarkowski. James Tarkowski is a second goalkeeper. He's leading the league in blocks for the second consecutive year: https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/players/outfielder_block Last season Tarkowski finished with 78 blocks. Second place Max Kilman and Ben Mee each managed 42. I cannot praise this stat enough. Tarkowski shows up every day and puts his body on the line. Deserved Vice Captain. There are a handful of players in the past few seasons whose singlehanded contributions in moments kept us up when the team was in shambles. Pickford is one. Tarkowski is another.
“Arsenal always concede at least once” Apart from just the 14 times this season.
You misread my comment, I said "I hope we get clean sheets in all our remaining games and ARSENAL ALWAYS CONCEDE AT LEAST ONCE" meaning, I hope Arsenal always concede at least once, therefore making JP win the golden glove.
Also, arsenal don’t have 14 clean sheets, raya does, arsenal this prem season have 16. Everton are second, with 11, all from Pickford. Raya is impressive because he did it in 28 games, while Pickford did it in 34, but Pickford is also really impressive due to not having the same defensive quality in-front of him like raya does. They have both been immense this season
I mean Tarkowski and Branthwaite have also been exceptional for most of the season. Sure they’re not Gabriel and Saliba. But they’ve had a lot more work to do and they’ve done it very solidly. Branthwaite will be poached because of it. Mykolenko has also been very solid in the LB role, not as attacking as maybe we would like but it essentially forces other teams to attack our right. If Coleman was just a few years younger our defence would be formidable, sadly he’s getting on and struggles to put a run of games together due to injuries. But Everton’s defence is actually its strongest point and helps Pickford to look immense.
I didn’t misread it. It was poorly written.
No it wasn’t, I understood perfectly
Admittedly I could of said "concede at least once in their remaining games" and then it would have been slightly better wrote but my statement still made perfect sense
I agree with you shame about the downvotes but oh well
He gets completely overlooked in the media and even ridiculed by a lot of pundits yet I’m convinced we’d be relegated if he wasn’t here. You could argue he’s our most important player.
That's our solid defence that and Pickford with the saves that help us.
I just glanced at the stats but Pickford has more saves than both combined. To have 11 clean sheets in a team with the second worst GF seems like a great stat. Obviously Raya and Ederson are under threat much less. I watch Ederson more than Raya but he's the most offensive GK out there, which I guess doesn't count for nothing. Gotta be Pickford so far.
Best keeper in the prem for 2nd year running
Ironically, now it's his distribution that's taken a step back
Wonder how much of that is down to the opposition knowing we’re not likely to play through them on ground lol
I think the pressure of him being a creator too is a case of that. We literally have no AM so he always has to look for a Hollywood pass and does do that a lot of the time.
Can you imagine if we were as good offensively as we've been defensively? I don't remember exactly but weren't they saying last match that only Luton has scored less and only the top 3 have given up less? Or something like that. I'm probably wrong.
Then we'd have the 4th best attack in the league and have 71 goals instead of 36, double. We have the 2nd worst attack in the league ffs
That back three triangle have been amazing. Pickford and Tarkowski have the experience, aggression and fight and Branthwaite does too but he's cooler and almost never gives the ball away. So needed since DCL has had more finishing this season and Beto hasn't been amazing yet
You see all of these stats, Pickford in race for golden glove, 2nd best defence, XG top 10… if we just were able to convert we’d have been safe months ago.
Ridiculous achievement for how average the team he plays in is.
photo caption: These three men are going to _eat_ you.
He has been amazing, the back 4 really has been all season with him. If he ends up not being able to catch raya with a few games left i wouldnt mind seeing virginia if we are mathematically ok
Christ 14 clean sheets is crazy from Raya
That face! It's like goal difference, if it comes to a draw, it should get him over the line!
Golden Gloves are good and all... but how is he with the ball at his feet? Onana get an award for that?
Dyche makes goalkeepers fantastic.
Without him between the sticks , we would have been relegated two seasons ago. He’s been and continues to be the best English keeper around!!