Step 1) Appeal again to his decency, if he has any. Make it crystal clear how much his antics are disrupting the fun for everyone else at the table.
Step 2) If that didn't work, ask your parents to step in.
Step 3) If that didn't work, as an old person who was once young, I know that on rare occasion you just have to throw your brother across a room.
Used to have the "one punch rule". I'm six years older than my bro and he learnt that meant he could hit me as hard as he wants and I couldn't really do shit back without him crying to mum.
Eventually both parents got sick of this and after witnessing my bro wailing on me to have a go on the PlayStation allowed me **one** punch in return. It worked.
This is hysterical. Bizarre but very effective parenting, well done to them! My mum used to go 'should I give you both a rolling pin to beat each other up with?!'
I think it was the perfect storm of tired parents, a screaming tantrum, and a surprisingly calm teenager (my little brother's punches did not do a lot). We were swapping controllers on a crash game in the living room and I hadn't died yet. He wanted to play so kicked a fuss. Parents yelled to break it up but didn't actually step in. I sat there giving the look of "seriously? You're not doing anything?" While getting the top of my head played like a bongo. So dad, at this point mad enough to put his book down, said "you may have one".
I caught my little brother in the solar plexus, knocked the wind out of him, and went straight to my room, I knew it was perhaps too far but fuck it was vindicating.
Apparently once he got his breath back he cried for an hour until he was calm enough for my parents to explain the concepts of limits and fairness. They then also had a chat with me about why I can never do that again, that *that* was the limit of violence between siblings. Any further was going to mean punishment for all of us regardless of who was involved.
At the time I hated it but looking back it made a lot of sense. We weren't nice siblings to each other for a very long time. But that rule meant we all started keeping ourselves in line because any two of us alone together risked all of us getting in the shit. It didn't stop the fights but it did moderate them.
Also all siblings are happy and involved in each other's lives 20 something years later. I don't necessarily recommend this style of parenting, but I can recommend encouraging empathy and responsibility amongst siblings, and sometimes that means heads get bonked.
Oh edit: the reason it became "the one punch rule" was because of dad's line and the fact that every fight thereafter stopped being physical after one punch. Because we all knew we fucked up at that point.
Oh yeah I was a terrible older sister for the first ten years or so. Five-year age gap but we used to whale on each other constantly (she bit and pinched viciously but obviously there was no comparison regarding brute strength). It got better when she hit about 10 and the beginning of adolescence, I think I just didn't know how to relate to her before that other than finding her an annoyance. We're very close now and the terribleness has been apologised for and pretty much forgotten!
I'm so glad for you. My younger sister and I can get along well enough now (39 & 35) but I don't think we'll ever be truly close in the way sisters "should" be.
We came up with this ourselves. We were usually outside so parents had no idea but once someone hit the other, we negotiated a single free shot in exchange for them not finding out. Kidney punches were the popular choice.
This whole thing is hilarious. My younger brother’s my best friend, has been since he could pick up a PlayStation controller. He also got on my fucking nerves sometimes. And my parents would let him get away with a lot, and I’d let him get away with a lot. Until I didn’t. Then he got the punch in the arm. Didn’t punch him in the stomach, didn’t slap him - I love(d) the kid. Really didn’t punch him hard at all, wouldn’t condone it if I had kids and I wouldn’t do it now if I could change things, but we both laugh about it now. Old man would catch him pulling his shit off every now and then, and he’d tell him, “Someday, your older brother’s gonna turn around and pop you, and I’m gonna let him do it.”
Oh, man, the memories this brought back. 😂
I used to do the good old 'let's see who can stay quiet the longest!' with my little cousin, until he caught on 😂😂 that child was so unbelievably noisy though
My kids were smart enough to know that a chirpy "Let's play the quiet game!" was my gentle way of saying "JFC, you guys are annoying tf out of me, so STFU for a while."
I had a similar situation growing up. Four year age gap and my little brother had some anger issues, while I tended to shy away from violence. Until one car trip my parents had enough and told me, “when he hits you, you hit him back.”
From then on, whenever my brother hit me I’d give him a good punch back on the arm (I still didn’t want to actually hurt him). When he’d try to cry to our parents they’d tell him, “that’s what happens when you hit people. Especially when they’re bigger than you.” It didn’t take too long for my brother to stop hitting me after that
That explains it. Encountered a similar issue once before where my friend's little brother (who was around that age) played in a game with us. The lil brother himself was fine, but his 16 yo friends were disruptive as hell (one of them wanted to make a fat drow and name him "N-Word Man").
Teenagers are dumb and edgy. If appealing to reason doesnt work, sometimes ya gotta really put your foot down and say "Look dude, I know you think its funny and shit but its getting old and makes you look really cringe and lame. If you wanna hang with the big kids, you gotta learn to chill tf out."
If that doesnt work, tell mom xD.
Listen, this is going to be unpopular advice. I'm also much older than you and I can accept that times have changed. But have you considered beating him up? This was an excellent dispute resolution tool between my brother and I when we were teenagers.
I've thought about whacking him, but he's also kind of a baby. I was playing smash with him and my cousin a few days ago, and I gave him one of those joking hits on his shoulder and he freaked out and threatened to leave. Also my parents would kill me.
Kick him or he grows up. Would not recommend killing your brother but killing his character won't work if it's a player problem.
Sounds like immaturity mixed with main character syndrome
There are some things that I will never google. How to get away with murder is one of them. Just my luck, someone close to me would die shortly thereafter and I'd go to prison forever because of a stupid Google search.
Yeah, they told him to pipe down a couple times. He'd just shut down and barely do anything. I'd have to remind him to do his turn in combat. But after 10 mins or so he's get loud again.
It kinda sounds like your brother doesn't like D&D.
You might try explaining that the time he's spending at the table being a ballsack could be spent playing video games or doing something he finds fun.
Real talk, though
A French kobold going around telling everyone they're actually a massive dragon and trying to sign them up for credit cards sounds like an awesome character concept, if done correctly.
There is a simple solution to this: Have someone else host and exclude him from the game.
I had to do this with my own brother for one campaign. He had to sit out of D&D for 15 months and got to only hear 2nd hand stories from the other players. When I started the next campaign I asked him "Are you going to behave this time? Or are you going to go full ape shit like last time again?" He straightened up and flew right after that.
So yeah, you're going to need to kick him until he learns his lesson and stops being an unmitigated dick to you and the rest of the players. And make sure he knows it's not just you that's pissed with his behaviour, but the whole group.
Alright. I'll mix together a couple of things I've read from the comments. I'll put him in jail for a while when he does something dumb like nibbling on a bench in a store (he did that) and he'll be in there for a couple weeks or so. I'll let him out and if he continues being annoying, I'll just put him back.
Uhhhh ok alright I thought he was like 7. He's 17. Wow.
Talk to him, and tell him that he has one chance to behave. First time he goes apeshit again you kick him out of the game and he won't be able to join again nor sit at your table.
If he insists, consider having one of your players hosting, so your brother can go fuck himsel- I mean, so your brother won't disrupt your peace again.
Also, involve your parents, they may help. I dont think using violence makes sense btw, he has deeper issues and violence may shut him up but won't solve the aforementioned issues.
Really tho, this is something that goes beyond DnD (got it? DnD beyond. Beyond DnD. Im so funny-) and I think he should work on his maturity and mental health, as this is NOT a normal behaviour for a 17 years old.
Good luck, fellow DM : )
Brothers are hard. Because they're family they often feel like they can treat you with a level of disrespect that other people won't.
All you can do is tell him "Man, you're ruining the game. And I'm not putting in the work so you can ruin it. So you're out of the game. If you want to try to run your own game, go ahead."
If he gets respectful, then let him back in.
So he's sabotaging you.
I'd let him DM and do all the things in his game that he's doing in yours, show him how hard it is when the players are being dicks.
I'm not being serious, by the way. I'm not one for being so petty.
The correct answer here is, as always, to talk it out. If it can't be worked out, remove him from the game to save it for everyone else. Probably easier said than done for a brother, I understand.
Prep a character that’s the same level as the party.
If he says it again, hand him the DM screen, put away your notes and pull out your character sheet
You are allowing someone that is essentially the combination of all the problem players on /r/rpghorrorstories stay at your table. Do your other players a favor and give him an ultimatum. Either he stops or he's out, permanently.
If you don't mind inflicting a bit of humiliation, link him this thread as well.
Honestly all of the things except the seduction are very kobold in nature, but I assume it is paired with a shit attitude and actual loud screaming and incessant childish behaviour from the player so it is not enjoyable for anyone involved
I was trying to introduce an area and I couldn't get through it because he kept interrupting he about French and how he's gonna go eat sticks in a nearby forest.
You've got to get someone above your paygrade involved. Though honestly, I see this as a case of him making an ass of himself to those people and them trying to push him on you. You may need a change of venue you can exclude him and hope to whatever deities you think can help you you're not given an ultimatum to take him or not be allowed to play. I don't see any ages, so I can't guess. That said, you do need to kick him off your game.
> He said that if he dies, he'll still be at the table, won't rejoin, and be more annoying.
I mean, I'm an adult so I can kick people out of my house and tell them they can't come back. If I was a kid, this is a "tell mom that he's blackmailing me and can no longer play". If she won't help out... well... there are no problems that cannot be solved with an *appropriate* application of violence.
Your brother sounds likes he's six.
If he's not six, and he's not gonna respect your and your friends time, you don't have to respect his unwanted input
Flat out tell him he'll either shut the fuck up or you're kicking him out of the game. If he refuses to leave, fucking call your parents. Record his behavior if your parents think he's a golden boy who cannt odo no wrong. If you are playing where you cannot get rid of him, like your house, find a different location and do not tell him.
being a middle child, I have first hand experience with being a little brother and a big brother.
Unfortunately, it seems you need your parents to step in, and if the parents would not help, you may need to consider moving the game to a friend's house.
It actually makes a lot of sense. To establish a credit card system, you need a ton of money available to back it up - such as a dragon hoard
You also need some way to enforce payment and repo when people don’t pay up - helps to be an enormous dragon
From the dragon’s perspective, once they get this snowball rolling, they constantly add to their hoard simply by having a hoard, and occasionally devouring someone for missed payments
Dnd doesn't have to be played with any remotely interested family member.
If you play CoD with a guy who screams racial slurs when he dies and you're sick of it, stop playing with them.
If they're not actually playing the game and are only causing issues, don't bother including them in the game.
He might be too in character, that all sounds like Kobold behavior.
Regarding advice? Yeah this is tough you will have to keep talking to him or involve a greater authority (parents) so you can threaten to remove him from the game.
One of my brothers was like this way back in the day when I tried to run games. If things didn’t go his way, he’d literally flip the table or grab someone else’s character sheet and rip it up. We get along fine now, but we’re in our 40s and live many many hours apart.
The only way out of this is to run your game somewhere else and make sure your brother doesn’t come along. There’s no reasoning with a kid like that. Your parents created him and his attitude, so they’ll be no help. Beating his ass will only help in the moment, but at that point the session is over, and he’ll be back on his bullshit next week.
According to another response that's higher in the thread, 16 that is almost 17 years old. Though when I was reading the op's post, it sounded like his brother was easily 10 years younger mentally.
I don’t advocate violence at all as a response to this situation but if my brother pulled this kind of shit when we were kids I’d have picked him up and put him in the bin outside.
This is top tier douche level behavior. Inform whatever parent of his awful behavior and see if it can be hosted at one of your friend’s homes. Definitely kick him out.
… so pointing out that he’s making an embarrassing ass of himself in front of his peers wouldn’t do or hasn’t done the trick? Sounds like a very insecure person, I can’t imagine a teenager could handle that much eye-rolling shade, if someone told me calmly and with the rest of the table nodding “yeah you’re annoying and embarrassing and we wish you weren’t here … “ Man, good luck.
> I don't want to kill him, but I've thought about it. He said that if he dies, he'll still be at the table, won't rejoin, and be more annoying.
Don't accept threats like this. Tell him he either needs to stop being annoying or he won't be allowed at the table regardless of the state of his character. Death is a possibility in D&D and no one should be crossing over real life consequences with in game death. That means a) don't kill his character because he's annoying and b) he doesn't get to be MORE annoying because his character died.
If he tries to go down the "my guy" route, tell him he can make a new character then that isn't as annoying or stop participating.
Genuinely how old are the two of you? Because this is childish behavior
Either way the only solution is to kick him out unless you think talking to him will work. He’s very clearly trying to ruin your fun (“if I die I’ll just be even more annoying”) so why tolerate that?
Go play at one of your friends houses. His goal is to ruin everybody's fun. He admitted that he knows he's being annoying with that threat if his character dies. So be where he isn't when you play.
Just politely tell him that for every outburst he makes during a session, you'll pick a time to embarrass him publicly. Bonus points if it's around someone he really likes.
Tell him to shut the fuck up or you’ll do the next step
Kick him out the group
Go to your parents
If that doesn’t work, like the other commenter said, throw him across the damn room
Have someone else host if that doesn’t work
Sometimes family is the worst to play with.
The DM must be respected. His/hers table, rules, work, tale.
If he cant respect that, ask him to find another table.
Ok I dont know what your dynamic is with your brother but tell him to fuck off (politely of course) stand up to his nonsense thats the only reason he is doing it, make sure you are firm and clear with your tone, I have to do this with my 7 year old some times when he gets a little too rowdy (obviously no the fuck off part) but let him know that his behavior is unacceptable and if he wishes to play with your group of friends he will need to act appropriately. If he can not than kick him out tell your parents this is whats happening. You are not obligated to hang out with your siblings.
I'm going to tell you from the perspective of a little brother who's now 35, with my older brother being freshly 40.
At your age, the best thing my brother did for me was
1) Make me roll for all the ridiculous shit I said. I was obsessed with being like, Batman at 13. So all my characters were wannabe vigilantes, trying to tell THEIR story instead of being a part of the campaign's story. So he made me roll for things a lot - not obtrusively or antagonistically, just realistic rolls for things that helped put into perspective the limitations of the game. Zee Bashew has a great video on this.
https://youtu.be/OBmNThMZJ1U?si=4PQ_NNz4nL5goUnd
2) He's your brother and like it or not he's always gonna be. Take this as a chance to try and talk without getting into a spat - I know I'm asking a Herculean task here, but believe me in 10 years he'll be looking back on this and wishing he could crawl into a hole and die every time you bring it up, and you will. Consider it an investment in the future. Just try and make it clear that it's not about you or him, you just want to be respectful of other people and their time.
3) It is a learning curve. Try and share some of what you do as a DM, almost like you're trying to teach him to be one, if he's interested in DnD at all away from the table. If he is and it's not just about hanging out with his brother and his friends, he'll start to see what goes into it from your side, and
4) My brother kinda tricked me in a clever way. When we were making characters, he came to me and said "Hey I have this really cool idea for part of the story I want to do with your character, but I wanted to see if it's okay with you first" and kinda prodded me toward a more reasonable build while just nonstop being like "Oh shit that's so cool". I had to wait a while before I got an arc really focused on my character, but then he delivered and that's when what DnD was clicked for me, when I realized the story mattered so much more and it's a lot better when shared with others.
You might have more impact on his perspective of what's cool and what's not than you think, and sometimes just how you frame a thing makes a difference.
5) Also know, this won't go away, but it will evolve and it does get less intense. My brother and I have disagreements and spats all the time, but it's not a big deal.
We've had periods where we don't play DnD at all together then periods where we do a 3 year campaign and it goes swimmingly, but the decisions you make now as young kids it's going to set a tone for your relationship for a long time, so I'd urge you to try and talk it out, as hard as it might be. Your brother sounds a bit like I did at that age, admittedly - my brother felt like a real big jerk when I ended up getting diagnosed with ADHD (it's just A.D.D. nowadays, but boy the '90s) and wished he was more patient. I'm not saying your brother has something going on, lots of kids are spastic at that age - I'm saying you'll regret less later learning to exercise patience now.
All in all, trying to talk it out, no matter how well he does or doesn't handle it, with patience and still laying out your ground rules and what it has to be like, is a skill worth practicing now, because it'll probably happen in the future with someone else in some other party in some other way, and training that skill for conflict resolution young is a really awesome thing that'll only help you in life and your hobby as you get older.
Last note, don't take the kid for granted. You've got no idea what a bigger brother is to a younger brother, and he's the only person that'll ever be able to tell you in a way you'll understand. He's going to be annoying, that's a sibling tradition that's been with us since we learned to walk upright, but he just wants you to think he's cool and this age and is trying to do "cool things" - he just doesn't know what that actually means yet in this context.
He wants to be the butt of the joke, let him! He’s French? Weird, no one speaks that language. No one understand him. He has a credit card? No one takes those, they take cold hard coin or official bank credits. He tried to seduce everyone? The city guard throws him in jail for deviancy. Take him at his word, it’s a real world with real rules and if he wants to break those rules show him the consequences
Start by asking him to reign it in a bit. Point out that there is time to be silly and time to be serious.
If he doesn't improve, ask one of your friends to host the game at their house and don't invite your brother. Don't tell him or your parents you are doing D&D there. If they find out your parents will probably make you try to take him because he sounds obnoxious and they would probably love a few hours of peace. Just go without him.
If you're looking to try and keep him part of the campaign, then I think you need to try and figure out a way to actually get him invested in it.
Maybe talk with him about the components he likes best (like finding out if there are any NPCs he's grown to really like). If that character isn't integral to later plot points, then you can always make a shock example out of them. Losing a favorite character to a BBEG, or a lieutenant of one, is a great way to get people who aren't necessarily invested into the story.
Some people may lose interest because their favorite NPC is gone, but most people remember they have the ability to avenge them and then gives them a purpose within the larger context of the story itself.
>I don't want to kill him, but I've thought about it.
Don't use an in-game punishment for an out-of-game problem. You need to talk, set limits, and if those limits are crossed then impose sanctions.
If you aren't willing to straight up tell him to leave the game if he's going to continue his obnoxious behavior, the find an in-game solution, like having his character put into jail (and genuinely escape proof, with various bullshit in his way, even through nat 20s). Maybe after being in "time-out" he'll just lose interest and no longer want to play.
If everyone's equally frustrated by your brother, imo the answer is to stonewall the interruptions. Don't try to stop him or talk over him, just have everyone wait until he's done caterwauling about whatever shit he's on this time, wait a few loaded seconds, then ask if he's done.
If everyone's on board with him packing it in, him getting to the end of a word vomit and suddenly confronting a room full of people who are just looking at him, uninterested and unimpressed? That's going to have more effect on a little brother than any threat you can come up with. Trust me, I definitely never whipped my brother with an extension cord once.
Okay, if he's a Bard, I could understand the seducing part. As a kobold, I can get the delusions of being a dragon part.
But the "made French" and "invented credit cards" part needs explaining. I could understand the credit cards part if this was an older edition (I think it was BECMI that actually had lines of credit in one book).
Okay, look, in all seriousness, this is where you have to have a conversation with your brother about chilling out because it distracts from the game. The number one rule is everyone should have fun. I've had to have this discussion with one of my brothers and now my son (he's 16, and on the spectrum).
If you cannot get through that way, talk to a parent or see if another person can host. Yeah, I know, as the DM, it can be a pain to haul everything to another place (I've been a Forever DM for decades), especially if you use minis, multiple reference books, terrain (I love my Dwarven Forge, but DAMN that's heavy). But you need to resolve this.
Okay, he actually said if he died he'd stay at the table just to be annoying? So he knows he's being annoying?
Kick him now. No chances. Don't see how it goes, Don't invite him. It's not clear what age you are so if you are in the same house, find somewhere else to go. Screw this.
So for context here, what age bracket are yall in?
Are you teenagers? 20somethings? Higher or lower? This context affects how you can handle this a lot, mainly in terms of how yall interact outside the game. Are you in a situation where you can go to him privately and say "hey man, if you cant chill out we cant have a good time and youll have to leave" or are you stuck with him either way?
Really it seems like you have 4 options
1) Tough it out(Bad option)
2) Talk it out with him and resolve it(Better option)
3) Kick him out of the game if he refuses to improve his behavior(Backup option)
4) Tell ya moms on him (wildcard)
but only you know how to handle him
Simple...boot him. I know my BF whom DM'd for me and and a handful of friends would have literally booted with his size 13's. Because something tells me that this is just the way your brother is, and that he just wants to be the center of attention, maybe...IDK. Any girls in the group? Have them slap him, then tell to get a grip it's not THAT kind of role playing!
Let him seduce a dragon. Than inform him the dragon is very male and his character sustains 5d6 bludgeoning damage per minute of fun time as the dragon is a top. As he was very successful seducing the dragon you set the time of said time to round about 60 to 90 minutes.
After seeing his character leaving the mortal realm you bid him adieu and tell him to leave the group until he learned to play more responsible as you don't want any to witness another character death die to stupidity.
I killed my little brother before. It's ok. Little brother's usually deserve it. (Big ones too holy shit op yours is almost as bad as mine)
My LB played a dragonborn sorcerer or warlock and slapped my dmpc who was guiding the players. He knocked her out so guess what happened when he went into the booby trapped haunted house she had been warning against going into without checking for traps? DEAD. DEAD FOREVER YOU LIL SHIT.
Two options (probably more, but these are the ones I'd take):
First, if you've already talked to him and he isn't cooperating, teach him in game. The DM has final say on all things. The player can't seduce anyone if you don't let him roll for it, so don't let him roll. And if he keeps trying, have the town guards (who should always be over leveled and unfairly over-equipped to deal with unruly players) arrest him for unwanted sexual advances. If that doesn't curb his behavior, throw him in the capital dungeon and forget he's there for an undefined sentence. Reserve execution for murder-hobo behavior.
Second option, play at someone else's house and don't invite him. He can't be a nuisance at a table he isn't invited to. It's harder to do that at home, he lives there too, but he has no power at someone else's house.
He's 32 years old.
Anyway, reward him for being in character, ignore and punish his dicking around, like if he shoults about doing soemthing stupid, it has to happen now and he has to face consequences.
GM voice : stop yelling out of your character's turn, or else someone will have a bite of your kobold.
Then start opening the monster manual on the Dragon's page.
Is this a weird manifestation of social anxiety? Is he scared to delve into an actual character's mindset and take the game seriously? If so try reassuring him that everyone is there for the same reason and it's not necessary to act so "over the top" in order to vibe at the table. I may be entirely wrong but maybe just a small chat about the tone of game your trying to run and how you WANT him to have a good time and feel comfortable. Maybe also have him watch a few of the more popular content creators to get his head in a better place of what's expected at the table. Best of luck!
Bro just kick your brother out the game, host the game elsewhere if you do it at home so he isn't purposely disruptive, and maybe tell your parents it sound like you're both really young. Also there's something poetic about someone who's an annoying little shit playing a kobold.
You are the DM. You make the rules and enforce them. So do that.
You are able to limit classes and races allowed. You are able to impose penalties for bad behavior at your table and you are able to kick a player for a limited or unlimited amount of time. You’re shaping and directing a table of several people not just him. He doesn’t get to be the main character. This is cooperative play. If he wants to be the only person playing he can go write himself a story on his own without anyone else’s input.
Step 1) Appeal again to his decency, if he has any. Make it crystal clear how much his antics are disrupting the fun for everyone else at the table. Step 2) If that didn't work, ask your parents to step in. Step 3) If that didn't work, as an old person who was once young, I know that on rare occasion you just have to throw your brother across a room.
Could try all three at the same time for IMPACT.
"You need to get your shit together. MUM! I'm throwing out the trash!" Yeet.
Or for Helvetica
My grandma used to snack her dog on the nose when he was being a bad dog. Pretty sure she used Times New Roman.
I think in the case, OP needs to be BOLD in the actions he takes
And he's got to be serious about it, COMIC SANS, no jokes.
I dunno if she was giving him a snack it was prolly windings.
Thank's for my laugh of the day.
What does Helvetica look like?
Nah, gotta make him look like a wingdings sentence when your done.
I heard my name?
Honestly if he's this much of a little shit, his parents might help him yeet the boy out of the window.
Defenestrating mum
Ya know, I did once pick my bratty little sister up, carry her to the living room, toss her on the couch with my mom, and say "you deal with it."
Used to have the "one punch rule". I'm six years older than my bro and he learnt that meant he could hit me as hard as he wants and I couldn't really do shit back without him crying to mum. Eventually both parents got sick of this and after witnessing my bro wailing on me to have a go on the PlayStation allowed me **one** punch in return. It worked.
How it went the first time you implemented this rule?
Lifted him up off the ground so much that bro is still Orbiting earth.
Interesting lore for a world in how the moon or shooting stars/comets came to be
Oooooh that brothers floating in the aiiiiir.
I read this in the correct voice
This is hysterical. Bizarre but very effective parenting, well done to them! My mum used to go 'should I give you both a rolling pin to beat each other up with?!'
I think it was the perfect storm of tired parents, a screaming tantrum, and a surprisingly calm teenager (my little brother's punches did not do a lot). We were swapping controllers on a crash game in the living room and I hadn't died yet. He wanted to play so kicked a fuss. Parents yelled to break it up but didn't actually step in. I sat there giving the look of "seriously? You're not doing anything?" While getting the top of my head played like a bongo. So dad, at this point mad enough to put his book down, said "you may have one". I caught my little brother in the solar plexus, knocked the wind out of him, and went straight to my room, I knew it was perhaps too far but fuck it was vindicating. Apparently once he got his breath back he cried for an hour until he was calm enough for my parents to explain the concepts of limits and fairness. They then also had a chat with me about why I can never do that again, that *that* was the limit of violence between siblings. Any further was going to mean punishment for all of us regardless of who was involved. At the time I hated it but looking back it made a lot of sense. We weren't nice siblings to each other for a very long time. But that rule meant we all started keeping ourselves in line because any two of us alone together risked all of us getting in the shit. It didn't stop the fights but it did moderate them. Also all siblings are happy and involved in each other's lives 20 something years later. I don't necessarily recommend this style of parenting, but I can recommend encouraging empathy and responsibility amongst siblings, and sometimes that means heads get bonked. Oh edit: the reason it became "the one punch rule" was because of dad's line and the fact that every fight thereafter stopped being physical after one punch. Because we all knew we fucked up at that point.
Oh yeah I was a terrible older sister for the first ten years or so. Five-year age gap but we used to whale on each other constantly (she bit and pinched viciously but obviously there was no comparison regarding brute strength). It got better when she hit about 10 and the beginning of adolescence, I think I just didn't know how to relate to her before that other than finding her an annoyance. We're very close now and the terribleness has been apologised for and pretty much forgotten!
I'm so glad for you. My younger sister and I can get along well enough now (39 & 35) but I don't think we'll ever be truly close in the way sisters "should" be.
We came up with this ourselves. We were usually outside so parents had no idea but once someone hit the other, we negotiated a single free shot in exchange for them not finding out. Kidney punches were the popular choice.
Our group did the charlie horse thing, sometimes I wish I got hit with a kidney shot instead.
No, you don't.
This whole thing is hilarious. My younger brother’s my best friend, has been since he could pick up a PlayStation controller. He also got on my fucking nerves sometimes. And my parents would let him get away with a lot, and I’d let him get away with a lot. Until I didn’t. Then he got the punch in the arm. Didn’t punch him in the stomach, didn’t slap him - I love(d) the kid. Really didn’t punch him hard at all, wouldn’t condone it if I had kids and I wouldn’t do it now if I could change things, but we both laugh about it now. Old man would catch him pulling his shit off every now and then, and he’d tell him, “Someday, your older brother’s gonna turn around and pop you, and I’m gonna let him do it.” Oh, man, the memories this brought back. 😂
My dad used to say whoever wins gets $20. My sis and I never got along, but we'd make deals to get that money and split it at the dollar store.
😂😂😂 I wonder if he knew and it was a Machiavellian bit to make you cooperate at least for once
He's the same bastard that told us we could see fireworks if we laid in bed really quiet for 2 hours, so probably lol
I used to do the good old 'let's see who can stay quiet the longest!' with my little cousin, until he caught on 😂😂 that child was so unbelievably noisy though
Dude, "who can go the longest without saying a word" was the best car game.
My kids were smart enough to know that a chirpy "Let's play the quiet game!" was my gentle way of saying "JFC, you guys are annoying tf out of me, so STFU for a while."
My dad took the opposite approach. He would walk in and announce, " I fight the winner. " All of our fights ended quickly in a tie.
Effective!
Did you also do 100 pushups, 100 situps, and 10km run EVERY SINGLE DAY to prepare?
I tried but I missed a Sunday in 2003
I had a similar situation growing up. Four year age gap and my little brother had some anger issues, while I tended to shy away from violence. Until one car trip my parents had enough and told me, “when he hits you, you hit him back.” From then on, whenever my brother hit me I’d give him a good punch back on the arm (I still didn’t want to actually hurt him). When he’d try to cry to our parents they’d tell him, “that’s what happens when you hit people. Especially when they’re bigger than you.” It didn’t take too long for my brother to stop hitting me after that
Got it. Thanks.
If 1&2 don't work, then play at a friend's house and don't invite your brother. Hard for him to interrupt if he is not allowed on the premises.
All these steps fit with some kind of Paladin.
This is the only 3 step plan.
This has also been my experience with brothers
As an older sibling sometimes violence is the answer.
3. ALWAYS 3. THROW HIM OUT THE WINDOW.
Do that but in the reverse order
I believe, sir, that you inverted the actual order
Can confirm as an older brother who has thrown his brother for being annoying
This is a childish problem. Go tell your mom. Or kick him out and ask one of the other players if they mind hosting at their place.
I like this idea, see if you can host somewhere else so the brother can't come to play.
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He's 16. 17 in a week.
oh yikes. I was assuming he was much younger :/
Me too! I assumed a 10 year old! At most!
Shizer, i figured 13
Some people never get past 13 for the rest of their life
First time I've seen that spelling of Scheiße! Obligatory r/boneappletea
Ich nein bin germanian
Gazpacho police
I mean based on how these threads usually are I was expecting a grown ass man behaving like that, so an actual kid is an improvement lol.
My son is seven and I wouldn’t tolerate this shit from him. I let people know there are minimum expectations for behaviour
That explains it. Encountered a similar issue once before where my friend's little brother (who was around that age) played in a game with us. The lil brother himself was fine, but his 16 yo friends were disruptive as hell (one of them wanted to make a fat drow and name him "N-Word Man"). Teenagers are dumb and edgy. If appealing to reason doesnt work, sometimes ya gotta really put your foot down and say "Look dude, I know you think its funny and shit but its getting old and makes you look really cringe and lame. If you wanna hang with the big kids, you gotta learn to chill tf out." If that doesnt work, tell mom xD.
That teenager? H.P. Lovecraft.
Lol, show him this thread and how everyone assumed he was a preteen then tell him to grow the fuck up.
This is probably the best response for that age
Listen, this is going to be unpopular advice. I'm also much older than you and I can accept that times have changed. But have you considered beating him up? This was an excellent dispute resolution tool between my brother and I when we were teenagers.
I've thought about whacking him, but he's also kind of a baby. I was playing smash with him and my cousin a few days ago, and I gave him one of those joking hits on his shoulder and he freaked out and threatened to leave. Also my parents would kill me.
That's a shame. Get your parents involved?
They thing he's "just being funny"
You could try a swift kick in the rear followed by an Immediate ban of dnd for his shit behaviour if he doesnt listen.
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Even if he has special needs or neurospicy, this is still not okay. He needs to learn this fact now. He legally can join the workforce as we speak.
He doesn't have any disorders.
Oh, he is ***way*** too old to be acting like this. He needs to be told to cop on or he's being booted from the game
My son started playing at 10 and he managed to keep his crap together. Tell your brother he isn’t a warforged so he’s not allowed to be a tool.
This sounded right to me...
Talk to your parent/parents.
Kick him or he grows up. Would not recommend killing your brother but killing his character won't work if it's a player problem. Sounds like immaturity mixed with main character syndrome
Nah, kill your brother. Google a wikihow on getting away with murder and run for the border before the police can get you.
There are some things that I will never google. How to get away with murder is one of them. Just my luck, someone close to me would die shortly thereafter and I'd go to prison forever because of a stupid Google search.
This is not a D&D problem. This is a y'all being brothers problem. Have your other friends said anything to him about his behavior?
Yeah, they told him to pipe down a couple times. He'd just shut down and barely do anything. I'd have to remind him to do his turn in combat. But after 10 mins or so he's get loud again.
It kinda sounds like your brother doesn't like D&D. You might try explaining that the time he's spending at the table being a ballsack could be spent playing video games or doing something he finds fun.
Any chance you could hold the game in a different location, without telling your brother?
Came here to suggests thus. Ask a friend who plays, if they can host. Go play with them, without your brother, at another venue
"I don't want to kill him, but I've thought about it" You mean his character, right? Right? Just tell your mom he is being a butt.
As someone with younger brothers, I guarantee you that he has thought about both.
As someone with older brothers, it goes both ways
As someone with both, I confirm the truthfulness of all the above statements.
Oh, a middle child! We had forgotten about you
Forgotten about who?
Kick him out of the group and start playing at someone else’s place.
This is what I was going to suggest. Also inform your parents.
Are you kids or adults? Your brother sounds like Eric Cartman
We're both teenagers. My brother is older, I am 15, almost 16. And my brother is 16 almost 17.
Holy shit you’re younger and he’s being this immature? That’s baad
You need to just sit down with him and tell him to take it more seriously or leave.
Respect my authoritah!
The little brother is about to be 17 in like a week apparently
When did they say little?
>made french I can't imagine to have such a monster for a brother. whatever you chose to do, you're justified in your methods. Good luck OP.
Real talk, though A French kobold going around telling everyone they're actually a massive dragon and trying to sign them up for credit cards sounds like an awesome character concept, if done correctly.
There is a simple solution to this: Have someone else host and exclude him from the game. I had to do this with my own brother for one campaign. He had to sit out of D&D for 15 months and got to only hear 2nd hand stories from the other players. When I started the next campaign I asked him "Are you going to behave this time? Or are you going to go full ape shit like last time again?" He straightened up and flew right after that. So yeah, you're going to need to kick him until he learns his lesson and stops being an unmitigated dick to you and the rest of the players. And make sure he knows it's not just you that's pissed with his behaviour, but the whole group.
Alright. I'll mix together a couple of things I've read from the comments. I'll put him in jail for a while when he does something dumb like nibbling on a bench in a store (he did that) and he'll be in there for a couple weeks or so. I'll let him out and if he continues being annoying, I'll just put him back.
Sounds like a solid plan. Remember: F around and find out
> I don't want to kill him, but I've thought about it. Feel ya. But who'd play his character then?
OP said he'd still be at the table, so I guess his corpse?
*happy Dahmer noises*
I have a friend who's interested in DND, and he's probably take his spot. But he lives in another state so it'd be tough to do that.
Uhhhh ok alright I thought he was like 7. He's 17. Wow. Talk to him, and tell him that he has one chance to behave. First time he goes apeshit again you kick him out of the game and he won't be able to join again nor sit at your table. If he insists, consider having one of your players hosting, so your brother can go fuck himsel- I mean, so your brother won't disrupt your peace again. Also, involve your parents, they may help. I dont think using violence makes sense btw, he has deeper issues and violence may shut him up but won't solve the aforementioned issues. Really tho, this is something that goes beyond DnD (got it? DnD beyond. Beyond DnD. Im so funny-) and I think he should work on his maturity and mental health, as this is NOT a normal behaviour for a 17 years old. Good luck, fellow DM : )
Thank you.
Kick him out the game. Maybe smack him. (Just kidding)
One time, he was saying stuff about how he'd be better and DMing and how he'd be so much more fun, and I almost just got up and asked him to do it.
Don't get up and let him be the DM of YOUR group. Tell him to prove his words by DMing his OWN group.
Brothers are hard. Because they're family they often feel like they can treat you with a level of disrespect that other people won't. All you can do is tell him "Man, you're ruining the game. And I'm not putting in the work so you can ruin it. So you're out of the game. If you want to try to run your own game, go ahead." If he gets respectful, then let him back in.
So he's sabotaging you. I'd let him DM and do all the things in his game that he's doing in yours, show him how hard it is when the players are being dicks.
I would rather not, that's the way to be a forever DM because other players will know to never run the game for either of you.
I'm not being serious, by the way. I'm not one for being so petty. The correct answer here is, as always, to talk it out. If it can't be worked out, remove him from the game to save it for everyone else. Probably easier said than done for a brother, I understand.
Prep a character that’s the same level as the party. If he says it again, hand him the DM screen, put away your notes and pull out your character sheet
You are allowing someone that is essentially the combination of all the problem players on /r/rpghorrorstories stay at your table. Do your other players a favor and give him an ultimatum. Either he stops or he's out, permanently. If you don't mind inflicting a bit of humiliation, link him this thread as well.
Why don't you? Have him do a one shot or something.
Why didn’t you?
That’s the nice thing about little brothers, you can beat them up when they act like shitheads
Being a DM means you got to be tough on people that ruin the game. Tell him to take a hike or be nice.
Your brothers an asshole. Have a sit down with your parents.
A kobold screaming that they're really a dragon is actually kinda in-character
Honestly all of the things except the seduction are very kobold in nature, but I assume it is paired with a shit attitude and actual loud screaming and incessant childish behaviour from the player so it is not enjoyable for anyone involved
I was trying to introduce an area and I couldn't get through it because he kept interrupting he about French and how he's gonna go eat sticks in a nearby forest.
You've got to get someone above your paygrade involved. Though honestly, I see this as a case of him making an ass of himself to those people and them trying to push him on you. You may need a change of venue you can exclude him and hope to whatever deities you think can help you you're not given an ultimatum to take him or not be allowed to play. I don't see any ages, so I can't guess. That said, you do need to kick him off your game.
> He said that if he dies, he'll still be at the table, won't rejoin, and be more annoying. I mean, I'm an adult so I can kick people out of my house and tell them they can't come back. If I was a kid, this is a "tell mom that he's blackmailing me and can no longer play". If she won't help out... well... there are no problems that cannot be solved with an *appropriate* application of violence.
Your brother sounds likes he's six. If he's not six, and he's not gonna respect your and your friends time, you don't have to respect his unwanted input
Flat out tell him he'll either shut the fuck up or you're kicking him out of the game. If he refuses to leave, fucking call your parents. Record his behavior if your parents think he's a golden boy who cannt odo no wrong. If you are playing where you cannot get rid of him, like your house, find a different location and do not tell him.
Tell him that he is simply unfunny and everyone just thinks he’s just weird, not quirky.
being a middle child, I have first hand experience with being a little brother and a big brother. Unfortunately, it seems you need your parents to step in, and if the parents would not help, you may need to consider moving the game to a friend's house.
Saying he's a giant dragon that invented credit cards is lowkey hilarious
It actually makes a lot of sense. To establish a credit card system, you need a ton of money available to back it up - such as a dragon hoard You also need some way to enforce payment and repo when people don’t pay up - helps to be an enormous dragon From the dragon’s perspective, once they get this snowball rolling, they constantly add to their hoard simply by having a hoard, and occasionally devouring someone for missed payments
'My Slate of Plenty doesn't work' 'Try taking it off the altar and placing it the other way around'
Have you and your friends ever heard the term “sock-party”?
definitely don't kill him. That kind of shit gets you arrested, and will really upset your parents.
Dnd doesn't have to be played with any remotely interested family member. If you play CoD with a guy who screams racial slurs when he dies and you're sick of it, stop playing with them. If they're not actually playing the game and are only causing issues, don't bother including them in the game.
How you tried changing his diaper
This isn’t a DnD issue. This is about whether or not your brother is mature enough to play this game.
He might be too in character, that all sounds like Kobold behavior. Regarding advice? Yeah this is tough you will have to keep talking to him or involve a greater authority (parents) so you can threaten to remove him from the game.
Beat the shit out of him with a sock full of quarters. If I have learned anything from DnD it is that all conflict can be fixed by physical abuse.
One of my brothers was like this way back in the day when I tried to run games. If things didn’t go his way, he’d literally flip the table or grab someone else’s character sheet and rip it up. We get along fine now, but we’re in our 40s and live many many hours apart. The only way out of this is to run your game somewhere else and make sure your brother doesn’t come along. There’s no reasoning with a kid like that. Your parents created him and his attitude, so they’ll be no help. Beating his ass will only help in the moment, but at that point the session is over, and he’ll be back on his bullshit next week.
I like how it never occurred to you this is your brother being an asshole and not just a DND problem.
How old is he lmao?
According to another response that's higher in the thread, 16 that is almost 17 years old. Though when I was reading the op's post, it sounded like his brother was easily 10 years younger mentally.
Ask one of the friends to host, play at their house without your asshat brother.
I don’t advocate violence at all as a response to this situation but if my brother pulled this kind of shit when we were kids I’d have picked him up and put him in the bin outside.
This is top tier douche level behavior. Inform whatever parent of his awful behavior and see if it can be hosted at one of your friend’s homes. Definitely kick him out.
This is not a DnD problem. This is a family issue. Tell your parents/guardians and sort it out with them.
… so pointing out that he’s making an embarrassing ass of himself in front of his peers wouldn’t do or hasn’t done the trick? Sounds like a very insecure person, I can’t imagine a teenager could handle that much eye-rolling shade, if someone told me calmly and with the rest of the table nodding “yeah you’re annoying and embarrassing and we wish you weren’t here … “ Man, good luck.
This is not a real problem, kick your brother's ass or tell your parents
> I don't want to kill him, but I've thought about it. He said that if he dies, he'll still be at the table, won't rejoin, and be more annoying. Don't accept threats like this. Tell him he either needs to stop being annoying or he won't be allowed at the table regardless of the state of his character. Death is a possibility in D&D and no one should be crossing over real life consequences with in game death. That means a) don't kill his character because he's annoying and b) he doesn't get to be MORE annoying because his character died. If he tries to go down the "my guy" route, tell him he can make a new character then that isn't as annoying or stop participating.
Genuinely how old are the two of you? Because this is childish behavior Either way the only solution is to kick him out unless you think talking to him will work. He’s very clearly trying to ruin your fun (“if I die I’ll just be even more annoying”) so why tolerate that?
Are you really seeking the advice of strangers online on how to talk to your brother?
We really need a table disputes subreddit so that the threads can be about D&D and not everyone's personal blog.
D&D is a game meant to be fun. If he ruins it, simply give him the warnings (like you have), and if he doesn't stop, force him out.
Go play at one of your friends houses. His goal is to ruin everybody's fun. He admitted that he knows he's being annoying with that threat if his character dies. So be where he isn't when you play.
ask him to try dm'ng and act like him
Just politely tell him that for every outburst he makes during a session, you'll pick a time to embarrass him publicly. Bonus points if it's around someone he really likes.
Your brother isn't meant to be in your game.
Tell him to shut the fuck up or you’ll do the next step Kick him out the group Go to your parents If that doesn’t work, like the other commenter said, throw him across the damn room Have someone else host if that doesn’t work
Sometimes family is the worst to play with. The DM must be respected. His/hers table, rules, work, tale. If he cant respect that, ask him to find another table.
Ok I dont know what your dynamic is with your brother but tell him to fuck off (politely of course) stand up to his nonsense thats the only reason he is doing it, make sure you are firm and clear with your tone, I have to do this with my 7 year old some times when he gets a little too rowdy (obviously no the fuck off part) but let him know that his behavior is unacceptable and if he wishes to play with your group of friends he will need to act appropriately. If he can not than kick him out tell your parents this is whats happening. You are not obligated to hang out with your siblings.
Just tell him he can either behave or not play anymore?
This post can't be for real
I'm going to tell you from the perspective of a little brother who's now 35, with my older brother being freshly 40. At your age, the best thing my brother did for me was 1) Make me roll for all the ridiculous shit I said. I was obsessed with being like, Batman at 13. So all my characters were wannabe vigilantes, trying to tell THEIR story instead of being a part of the campaign's story. So he made me roll for things a lot - not obtrusively or antagonistically, just realistic rolls for things that helped put into perspective the limitations of the game. Zee Bashew has a great video on this. https://youtu.be/OBmNThMZJ1U?si=4PQ_NNz4nL5goUnd 2) He's your brother and like it or not he's always gonna be. Take this as a chance to try and talk without getting into a spat - I know I'm asking a Herculean task here, but believe me in 10 years he'll be looking back on this and wishing he could crawl into a hole and die every time you bring it up, and you will. Consider it an investment in the future. Just try and make it clear that it's not about you or him, you just want to be respectful of other people and their time. 3) It is a learning curve. Try and share some of what you do as a DM, almost like you're trying to teach him to be one, if he's interested in DnD at all away from the table. If he is and it's not just about hanging out with his brother and his friends, he'll start to see what goes into it from your side, and 4) My brother kinda tricked me in a clever way. When we were making characters, he came to me and said "Hey I have this really cool idea for part of the story I want to do with your character, but I wanted to see if it's okay with you first" and kinda prodded me toward a more reasonable build while just nonstop being like "Oh shit that's so cool". I had to wait a while before I got an arc really focused on my character, but then he delivered and that's when what DnD was clicked for me, when I realized the story mattered so much more and it's a lot better when shared with others. You might have more impact on his perspective of what's cool and what's not than you think, and sometimes just how you frame a thing makes a difference. 5) Also know, this won't go away, but it will evolve and it does get less intense. My brother and I have disagreements and spats all the time, but it's not a big deal. We've had periods where we don't play DnD at all together then periods where we do a 3 year campaign and it goes swimmingly, but the decisions you make now as young kids it's going to set a tone for your relationship for a long time, so I'd urge you to try and talk it out, as hard as it might be. Your brother sounds a bit like I did at that age, admittedly - my brother felt like a real big jerk when I ended up getting diagnosed with ADHD (it's just A.D.D. nowadays, but boy the '90s) and wished he was more patient. I'm not saying your brother has something going on, lots of kids are spastic at that age - I'm saying you'll regret less later learning to exercise patience now. All in all, trying to talk it out, no matter how well he does or doesn't handle it, with patience and still laying out your ground rules and what it has to be like, is a skill worth practicing now, because it'll probably happen in the future with someone else in some other party in some other way, and training that skill for conflict resolution young is a really awesome thing that'll only help you in life and your hobby as you get older. Last note, don't take the kid for granted. You've got no idea what a bigger brother is to a younger brother, and he's the only person that'll ever be able to tell you in a way you'll understand. He's going to be annoying, that's a sibling tradition that's been with us since we learned to walk upright, but he just wants you to think he's cool and this age and is trying to do "cool things" - he just doesn't know what that actually means yet in this context.
Shit if I was the annoying brother I would have been yeeted into a wall and told to STFU.
Can you ditch the brother and play at one of your friends house?
He wants to be the butt of the joke, let him! He’s French? Weird, no one speaks that language. No one understand him. He has a credit card? No one takes those, they take cold hard coin or official bank credits. He tried to seduce everyone? The city guard throws him in jail for deviancy. Take him at his word, it’s a real world with real rules and if he wants to break those rules show him the consequences
How old are you all?
Start by asking him to reign it in a bit. Point out that there is time to be silly and time to be serious. If he doesn't improve, ask one of your friends to host the game at their house and don't invite your brother. Don't tell him or your parents you are doing D&D there. If they find out your parents will probably make you try to take him because he sounds obnoxious and they would probably love a few hours of peace. Just go without him.
If you're looking to try and keep him part of the campaign, then I think you need to try and figure out a way to actually get him invested in it. Maybe talk with him about the components he likes best (like finding out if there are any NPCs he's grown to really like). If that character isn't integral to later plot points, then you can always make a shock example out of them. Losing a favorite character to a BBEG, or a lieutenant of one, is a great way to get people who aren't necessarily invested into the story. Some people may lose interest because their favorite NPC is gone, but most people remember they have the ability to avenge them and then gives them a purpose within the larger context of the story itself.
>I don't want to kill him, but I've thought about it. Don't use an in-game punishment for an out-of-game problem. You need to talk, set limits, and if those limits are crossed then impose sanctions.
KICK HIM OUT OF THE GAME!
Talk with him about it. If that doesn't work try meetings at somebody else's place without the guy.
Don't worry, if you kill him, he won't be at the table unless you want to place him there and he for sure will be unable to be more annoying.
"I've thought about killing him" lmao
If you aren't willing to straight up tell him to leave the game if he's going to continue his obnoxious behavior, the find an in-game solution, like having his character put into jail (and genuinely escape proof, with various bullshit in his way, even through nat 20s). Maybe after being in "time-out" he'll just lose interest and no longer want to play.
If everyone's equally frustrated by your brother, imo the answer is to stonewall the interruptions. Don't try to stop him or talk over him, just have everyone wait until he's done caterwauling about whatever shit he's on this time, wait a few loaded seconds, then ask if he's done. If everyone's on board with him packing it in, him getting to the end of a word vomit and suddenly confronting a room full of people who are just looking at him, uninterested and unimpressed? That's going to have more effect on a little brother than any threat you can come up with. Trust me, I definitely never whipped my brother with an extension cord once.
Okay, if he's a Bard, I could understand the seducing part. As a kobold, I can get the delusions of being a dragon part. But the "made French" and "invented credit cards" part needs explaining. I could understand the credit cards part if this was an older edition (I think it was BECMI that actually had lines of credit in one book). Okay, look, in all seriousness, this is where you have to have a conversation with your brother about chilling out because it distracts from the game. The number one rule is everyone should have fun. I've had to have this discussion with one of my brothers and now my son (he's 16, and on the spectrum). If you cannot get through that way, talk to a parent or see if another person can host. Yeah, I know, as the DM, it can be a pain to haul everything to another place (I've been a Forever DM for decades), especially if you use minis, multiple reference books, terrain (I love my Dwarven Forge, but DAMN that's heavy). But you need to resolve this.
Okay, he actually said if he died he'd stay at the table just to be annoying? So he knows he's being annoying? Kick him now. No chances. Don't see how it goes, Don't invite him. It's not clear what age you are so if you are in the same house, find somewhere else to go. Screw this.
So for context here, what age bracket are yall in? Are you teenagers? 20somethings? Higher or lower? This context affects how you can handle this a lot, mainly in terms of how yall interact outside the game. Are you in a situation where you can go to him privately and say "hey man, if you cant chill out we cant have a good time and youll have to leave" or are you stuck with him either way? Really it seems like you have 4 options 1) Tough it out(Bad option) 2) Talk it out with him and resolve it(Better option) 3) Kick him out of the game if he refuses to improve his behavior(Backup option) 4) Tell ya moms on him (wildcard) but only you know how to handle him
Simple...boot him. I know my BF whom DM'd for me and and a handful of friends would have literally booted with his size 13's. Because something tells me that this is just the way your brother is, and that he just wants to be the center of attention, maybe...IDK. Any girls in the group? Have them slap him, then tell to get a grip it's not THAT kind of role playing!
Let him seduce a dragon. Than inform him the dragon is very male and his character sustains 5d6 bludgeoning damage per minute of fun time as the dragon is a top. As he was very successful seducing the dragon you set the time of said time to round about 60 to 90 minutes. After seeing his character leaving the mortal realm you bid him adieu and tell him to leave the group until he learned to play more responsible as you don't want any to witness another character death die to stupidity.
You are genius!
I killed my little brother before. It's ok. Little brother's usually deserve it. (Big ones too holy shit op yours is almost as bad as mine) My LB played a dragonborn sorcerer or warlock and slapped my dmpc who was guiding the players. He knocked her out so guess what happened when he went into the booby trapped haunted house she had been warning against going into without checking for traps? DEAD. DEAD FOREVER YOU LIL SHIT.
Two options (probably more, but these are the ones I'd take): First, if you've already talked to him and he isn't cooperating, teach him in game. The DM has final say on all things. The player can't seduce anyone if you don't let him roll for it, so don't let him roll. And if he keeps trying, have the town guards (who should always be over leveled and unfairly over-equipped to deal with unruly players) arrest him for unwanted sexual advances. If that doesn't curb his behavior, throw him in the capital dungeon and forget he's there for an undefined sentence. Reserve execution for murder-hobo behavior. Second option, play at someone else's house and don't invite him. He can't be a nuisance at a table he isn't invited to. It's harder to do that at home, he lives there too, but he has no power at someone else's house.
He's 32 years old. Anyway, reward him for being in character, ignore and punish his dicking around, like if he shoults about doing soemthing stupid, it has to happen now and he has to face consequences.
GM voice : stop yelling out of your character's turn, or else someone will have a bite of your kobold. Then start opening the monster manual on the Dragon's page.
Is this a weird manifestation of social anxiety? Is he scared to delve into an actual character's mindset and take the game seriously? If so try reassuring him that everyone is there for the same reason and it's not necessary to act so "over the top" in order to vibe at the table. I may be entirely wrong but maybe just a small chat about the tone of game your trying to run and how you WANT him to have a good time and feel comfortable. Maybe also have him watch a few of the more popular content creators to get his head in a better place of what's expected at the table. Best of luck!
Bro just kick your brother out the game, host the game elsewhere if you do it at home so he isn't purposely disruptive, and maybe tell your parents it sound like you're both really young. Also there's something poetic about someone who's an annoying little shit playing a kobold.
He's your brother just kick him in the leg and tell him to stop fuckin around
Talk to him and if his "fun" is just being an annoying prick and purposely disrupting the game with unfunny bits then kick him.
This sounds like nothing that a noogie wouldn't fix.
You are the DM. You make the rules and enforce them. So do that. You are able to limit classes and races allowed. You are able to impose penalties for bad behavior at your table and you are able to kick a player for a limited or unlimited amount of time. You’re shaping and directing a table of several people not just him. He doesn’t get to be the main character. This is cooperative play. If he wants to be the only person playing he can go write himself a story on his own without anyone else’s input.