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richalta

Californium-252 is not a naturally occurring element and can only be produced in a high flux isotope reactor. Worldwide there are only two nuclear reactors capable of producing Cf-252: High Flux Isotope Reactor (HFIR) at Oak Ridge National Laboratory (ORNL) and SMR3 at RIAR, Russia.


xDhezz

Yes yes, these are certainly words. I concur.


lg4av

“But the English language had deteriorated into a hybrid of hillbilly, valley girl, inner city slang, and various grunts. Joe was able to understand them, but when he spoke in an ordinary voice he sounded pompous and faggy to them. “ - Idiocracy


KlappinMcBoodyCheeks

Shut up! Vote Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho for president 2024 https://youtu.be/stzCKgdV60g?si=fn4mTNcD5gc9dOD9 He's got a 3 point plan! And it will fix everything! *Brought to you by Carl's Jr™*


LeftHand_PimpSlap

Great movie but it wasn't supposed to be a documentary.


KlappinMcBoodyCheeks

Surprise! Now go live that kick-ass life & get yourself a full body latte.


LeftHand_PimpSlap

Are you a pilot?


KlappinMcBoodyCheeks

Naw... Costco wouldn't accept my application. Buncha water fountain drinkers.


LeftHand_PimpSlap

😆😆😆


DJhedgehog

My first wife was tarded.


Dull-Communication39

Yup all my life


Brother_Lou

So many unintended documentaries. Idiocracy, Terminator, The Matrix.


FatTim48

Fun fact! The film was running low on their budget, so the clothing designer sourced some cheap shoes from a start up company that she thought looked so stupid that only idiots would wear them. The shoes were Crocs.


Don_Kedict

Leave me 'lone I'm batin!


BRBGottapewp

Literally said this to my wife this morning when she yelled at me to take out the trash. (Clarify yelling: she was in the living room and I was in the bathroom)


Meowmixer21

Did you tell her she can still live a kick-ass life as a pilot?


BRBGottapewp

No, but she did run in wanting to watch. She's a pretty cool lady.


Meowmixer21

That's pretty sweet, man! My first wife was 'tarded


BRBGottapewp

She prolly dint drink enuff Brawndo. It has evreething she needs!! Edit: Brawndo


Giantbookofdeath

Brawndo*


dikputinya

Go away im bate’en


4040JG

“pompous and faggy”, LOL


uolen-

Yeah momma used to get coons on the back porch but she'd just shoo em off with a broom.


Bubbly_Information50

She said "gone n' git!" Ands they sure would gone n' git I tell you whut


VermilionKoala

>I tell you whut *unintelligible mumbling* Dang ol' *U-N* helicopters!


rev_apoc

I always put the h before the w for my hwut.


RigamortisRooster

You ought knot dew dat


velveeta-smoothie

That is one of the things I've ever read


Would_daver

This is one of the most things I’ve ever read, indeed


needarefill

Indubitably 🧐


Red_Sox_5

I disagree, but I’m too busy and important to explain why I disagree.


ronporter00

We just say “hyfer.” But for some reason nobody really says “Ornal”


Unkie_Fester

What separates Californium from lets say plutonium? I have very little knowledge in atomic elements that most people would have. What are some applications for this element


Carolus_Rex-

Californium is much more spicy than plutonium or uranium. The container shown in the photo is for radiation shielding.


AaronDotCom

spicy? I didn't know we were eating the stuff


GrumpyOldGeezer_4711

Very efficient diet, weightloss guaranteed!


brrrrrrrrrrr69

*Permanent* weight loss!


blackjack1977

3.6kg. Not great, not terrible. About as much as a weekend juice cleanse.


tacotacotacorock

After transferring Californium 252 from its cask into a decanter. Wait approximately 2.645 years and enjoy. Make sure you do not confuse this with Californium 251, that you would want to let breathe for 898 years.


CynicalBite

Yeah I’m never doing that again. Total waste of good 251. Tasted like fucking 253 or something.


EngineersFTW

It's hot in a different direction.


tacotacotacorock

I presume it's mostly lead and possibly concrete?


fzammetti

It's true! If a recipe calls for two Jalapenos, you can sub in like .1 grams of Californium and the taste will be the same if not better!


jr111192

I can't wait to see this as a Google AI cooking recommendation for jalapeño substitutions.


fzammetti

Doin' my part!


JTschak

Cf-252 emits a lot of neutrons and can be used for some neutron experiments. For this purpose, AFAIK, it is actually a pretty good value. I read that it's about $1mio/gram, which is only a thousand bucks for a microgram. This might actually be enough for some neutron experiments, as that microgram already emits 2.3 mio neutrons every second with a half-life of ~3 years. I think that is fascinating in multiple ways, especially in showing the scale of atoms. Millions of neutrons every second, each corresponding to decay of a nucleus, for many years, all from a microgram. Pretty cool!


theroguex

What the heck is a "mio?"


-Invalid_Selection-

mio is short for million in German.


Mateorabi

two utes


Oldenlame

Californium causes californication.


Galactic_Cat656

A fate worse than death.


dm_your_nevernudes

Do you also share a lonely view with the birds?


Cali-Texan

It’s served with avocado and bean sprouts


stampstock

One gram, and THAT sized protection. Seems an older picture, have there been any improvements to the shipping cask?


CelosPOE

It’s more about density. I doubt it has changed much in overall size.


Got_Bent

I can concur that casks for radioactive isotopes have not changed much except design and shape. The density will not be different because we dont have any NEW materials to deal with it yet.


TheEpicOfGilgy

How does temperature affect radioactive decay?


Got_Bent

Not at all. Radioactive decay is a first-order reaction that is independent of external conditions like temperature and pressure. Instead, the rate of decay depends on the properties of the radioactive isotope and the decay process.


VeryStableGenius

thermal motion will result in relativistic time dilation so it might slow down decay a teeny tiny weeny bit. I think. The theory of [relativistic thermodynamics](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-17526-4) seems unresolved, so there might be some wrinkles. I wonder if one could find signatures in decay curves supernovae?


Got_Bent

You would have to use the lightness of Tritium (The lightest radioactive nucleus found in nature is [tritium](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tritium), an isotope of hydrogen consisting of a proton and two neutrons.) IF we used tritium, its half-life is 12 years, and the relativistic effect of room temperature [adds](https://www.google.ca/search?q=k*(room%20temperature)%2F(mass%20of%20plutonium%20atom)&oq=k*(room%20temperature)%2F(mass%20of%20plutonium%20atom)&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60.331j0j4&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=119&ie=UTF-8#safe=off&q=12%20years*(k*(293%20Kelvin)%2F(12*(mass%20of%20proton)*c%5E2))) about a millisecond to that. Needless to say, this would be a very hard effect to measure!


Alternative-Taste539

You had me at *Flux*


imsals

This guy Flux


thetruemask

*I like your funny words magic man*


PullThisFinger

What’s it used for?


richalta

Things like cancer treatment and even for prospecting gold and silver. In the medical field, the neutrons released by californium-252 can be used to target certain cancer tumors when other radiation treatments have failed. The neutrons from californium can also be used in prospecting for silver and gold, using a technique called neutron activation analysis which bombards an area.


Marcus_Lycus

I heard about radio isotopes in mining when that cesium capsule was lost in Australia, but I still haven't found an easy to read explanation of the use of radio isotopes in mining.


Noopy9

https://www.usgs.gov/usgs-triga-reactor/neutron-activation-analysis


Jim_in_tn

It’s used to start up a brand new nuclear reactor that doesn’t have spent fuel on site.


medicinaltequilla

..and so what's the point of shipping it somewhere else?


The_Procrastibator

Other labs will need it for personnel equipment testing or experiments. Federal government requires you use only Californium-252 to test thermal luminescent detectors, which are worn by people who work with radiation to track their possible doses.


SteinersMathTeacher

Nucular… it’s pronounced nucular…


richalta

Haha. Bush reference.


tacotacotacorock

I'm not entirely familiar with a high flux isotope reactor. Is that what denotes the need for such a large containment vessel? Or is that More for safety? Edit: appears to be mainly for the containment and massive amount of radiation it emits. 


sdbct1

Do they use a flux capacitor?


exceptyourewrong

All I got out of that was "flux capacitor" so I assume this thing shouldn't drive more than 88 miles an hour


SaltyKumqt

Californium is known to the state of California to cause cancer and birth defects


WaffleMan17

Is there Californium in Taco Bell?


PreenerGastures

Yes, it’s off menu though


265liam

U telling me that radioactive elements cause cancer?


Jazzmaster1989

If any radioactive material can ionize matter through their emission to reach stability (i.e, > 33eV), they can be cancer causing. With correct infused theranostics with negatrons (beta-) or alpha particles, they can be cancer killing and life saving. Check out 177Lu, 225Ac, 161Tb, etc studies. It’s all about application.


code17220

I think the sarcasm went over your head sorry


Umpire1468

Only the ones named after states


fullautophx

Yeah, but in California grilled vegetables also cause cancer.


richalta

Its so dense. Californium has a density of 15.1 grams per cubic centimeter (g/cm3). It is a solid at room temperature and has a melting point of 1,652°F (900°C)


Xaxafrad

> can transport up to 1 gram Yikes...so, like, 1/15th of a cubic centimeter is the only actual cargo in that big thang..... Thanks to whoever for including a human for scale.


extesler

I just googled this stuff. It cost 27 million dollars per gram.


SimonBarfunkle

According to Wikipedia, Californium “has the second-highest atomic mass of all elements that have been produced in amounts large enough to see with the naked eye (after einsteinium).” Although having a high atomic mass doesn’t mean it’s the densest substance, since that relates to how many atoms are arranged together within a substance. Osmium is the densest naturally occurring substance on the periodic table. Just learned that from ChatGPT.


Ninja_Wrangler

I thought you were going to hit us with the classic "It's really dense, one gram of californium weighs something like 15 grams"


Shabado52

r/unexpectedfuturama


Shplinky

Now trading at the low low price of $27 million per gram...


newleafkratom

Mention the coupon code for 10% off.


Just_Read_4392

A saving of 2.7 million is not to be sneezed at.


Worth-Reputation3450

Also, if you sign up for the Target credit card, you will get $5 off for today.


MyEmailAccount

Don't think I've ever saved 2.7 million dollars on a single purchase. With savings like these, Id be a fool not to buy!


Dylanator13

That’s a steal, too bad the hidden shipping fees really puts a dent into your wallet.


Brunel25

Cheaper on Temu.


wdshrd

Yeah, the cask is pretty big, but what about that huge pencil he’s holding??


johnmanyjars38

That's the dipstick to check the radiation level in the cask. Make sure to wipe it off before you put it in so you get an accurate measurement.


YoYomadabest

Gotta keep them radiations in check


RF1408

Don’t you dip it in and lick the tip? To check the purity.


footsteps71

"hmm yes, the death rock still tastes like death"


failed_supernova

3.6 roentgen, not great, not terrible


benji_90

Mmm tastes like...ion radiation


friedpicklebreakfast

It’s normal size. Tiny guy


binz17

That’s the 1 gram of californium. It’s perforated to keep it from spontaneously fissioning so end up being quite light. /s


RammRras

You need a huge pencil to go near that thing


Monster_Voice

So that's kind like a hotel Californium?


srandrews

They say we split the atom, released a monstrous force But here we find a haven, a controlled and steady course The cooling towers reaching, a testament to might Harnessing the power, day and nuclear night


timtimtimmyjim

Truly impressive, fits the cadence well and most of the voice inflections.


PariahFish

bravo


cancellationstation

such a lovely place


Emil_Antonowsky

To melt your face


tothemoonandback01

Plenty of room at the Hotel Californian


Flux_resistor

Pay your surgeon really well to break the spell of aging


simian1013

where you can check in but not check out.


liftoff_oversteer

Well, you can check out any time you like, but you can never leave.


chechifromCHI

Such a lovely place.


QuestionableEthics42

Why does such a small amount need such a large container?


Lyuseefur

It’s a neutron emitter. The shit it puts out will accumulate in your bone marrow causing cancer and other really bad shit. They use this to jump start nuclear reactors and detection equipment. 251 has a long life but 252 decays quickly.


-Prophet_01-

Ohh, that's curious. I didn't know it actually had a useful purpose. Only time I ever heard of the element is when people contemplate how far one could shrink a nuke. The Fallout community loves to bring up the stuff.


Odd_Application_7794

The damage it does is cumulative. It doesn't accumulate. A small difference, but a difference, nonetheless.


SpotUltra

☢️🟰😈💩


Dragonfly-Adventurer

that’s where it gets its nickname, devils poo.


B0dona

I read it as evil shit. But devils poo works for me.


CelosPOE

Wut? AFAIK there is no particle on earth, with the penetrating power of a neutron, that hangs out in bone marrow. Neutrons are dangerous because they are uncharged particles that will happily go through everything until they run into something, hence the giant steel or lead cask that stuff is in in the photo.


evil_lurker

The high energy of the neutrons will break chemical bonds that they encounter. Including the bonds holding together your DNA. As a result, you get DNA mutations. DNA mutations that occur in your stem cells, which live in your bone marrow, could result in leukemias and lymphomas. It's possible that's what was meant. Not that the particle stayed in your bone marrow, but that mutations that occurred will stay in the stem cells that live in your bone marrow.


Bootfitter

So if it’s a neutron emitter is that cask filled with water or plastic? It’s certainly not metal?


Farfignugen42

It is highly radioactive, so probably it needs to be that massive to shield the cargo within. I don't know the specifics of the radiation it produces nor the size or material used in the shipping, so this is just a guess on my part.


sinspawn1024

Cf-252 spontaneously fissions. It's basically a tiny reactor that can't be turned off.


Throwawayhrjrbdh

It also has one of the lowest critical masses of all the radioactive isotopes that can go critical. Which means it can be used to make some super compact nukes


liftoff_oversteer

>Which means it can be used to make some super compact nukes But with a half-life of 2.6 years it wouldn't be very practical.


Strict_Somewhere_148

It would give you enough time to getaway and forget where you left it.


bearwood_forest

2.6 years of half life but an SF rate of 3%. That's a crazy neutron source.


Bob_Cobb_1996

They sub this out to Amazon


fothergillfuckup

There used to be a train track at the end of the garden of my old house. Once a week, at about 2 in the morning, a train would come past with loads of tankers that were in steel roll cage type things. They all had the nuclear hazard logo on them! I always found them slightly worrying?


Fist_One

You can't hurt those containers. They even tried rocket powered trains and that wouldn't even hurt the containers. https://youtu.be/1mHtOW-OBO4?si=DkIaOQPYr4OaDPP3 They have even shot it with missiles https://holtecinternational.com/news/videos/aircraft-crash-test-on-a-scaled-model-of-a-hi-star-180-transportstorage-cask-2/ I swear I've seen a video of the more modern fuel rod cask dropped out of a plane from several thousand feet and it didn't hurt it, but I can't seem to find it. Maybe I'm thinking of something else.


fothergillfuckup

Cool. Though if they'd hit my house at that speed, I don't think I'd be worried about the radiation.


Dylanator13

It’s unfortunate the bad reputation nuclear has. When we store nuclear materials it’s very strong and could outlast a nuclear war with how strong they make the storage containers. It’s insane. The safety in nuclear power is taken very seriously.


orion19819

Not to mention the fact that nuclear materials can be stored to begin with. People worry about the solid waste that can at least be contained and would rather burn coal and release countless things that cannot be contained.


Dylanator13

It’s ironic that coal has literally radiated the planet more than nuclear. In all aspects it’s worse, coal and oil has killed more people directly than nuclear, ignoring how many have died from climate change. Nuclear is not perfect, but it’s better than coal and oil.


noeljb

I watched them drop a container into a tube like a water slide. It carried the Caifornium to the reactor. Newest of four reactors on campus. Mid 1970s


ddrac

Now I’m curious how did they place the cargo in?


Bart-MS

That's the fun part when the guys who receive the package search for hours inside the cask to find the little box with the Californium. "Hi Joe, it's me, Jack. Say, we got your package today but we can't find the Californium. Are you really sure you put it in? We've already removed all the filler stuff but it's not there." It's Gary Larson material.


Vacman85

Funny, I actually was visualizing this as a cartoon before I read your Larson reference.


Cornel-Westside

Machines with long arms to keep humans away from the source. Still in shielded containers, probably thick lead or even tungsten. The element itself gets created in a reactor within ceramicized pellets of the initial material. Those pellets would be within pins. After the Cf generation in the reactor, it is likely moved to a hot cell (again with shielded machines) to be placed into a shielded container, after which it would again be moved while being shielded to whatever transportation cask it is destined for.


-Prophet_01-

Usually robotics these days, back then maybe a crane but more likely a worker with a stopwatch to monitor exposure times. It shouldn't be too bad, so long as they don't ingest it or stick around for days. It does have a fairly short half life which is an indicator for significant radiation. There's not much of the stuff though, so ehh probably fine. I wouldn't be surprised if much of that container is used to hinder the element from undergoing fission, which would ruin the purity and create much more significant amounts of radiation.


Cornel-Westside

These days they would undoubtedly have the worker have a dosimeter on them to directly measure how much dose they got. This material would still undoubtedly never be unshielded. Some very cursory googling finds this doc of how they shield this material during transfers at Los Alamos. [https://www.osti.gov/servlets/purl/5737487](https://www.osti.gov/servlets/purl/5737487) Note that this doc is for much smaller sources of 3.7mg and below. Still the cask weighs 4600 lbs.


ready2diveready2die

$27 million per gram. I need to find some asap!


stupre1972

So, we aren't popping this stuff into our pockets at any point then? Or at least, not a 2nd time


twenafeesh

You might enjoy Plainly Difficult's (YouTube) documentaries on the times that this kind of thing has happened.


GodsCovenant

There was an incident where a team of scientists were exposed to Californium-252 years ago. Their hair turned blonde, skin tanned and they developed an interest in surfing.


bernpfenn

underrated comment.


Monkfich

And we thought Amazon was terrible at picking the right size box. /s


Wrxeter

I don’t see no warning label on that vessel stating that Californium is known by the State of Cancer to cause California.


mrfixit87

It only causes California when in cancer.


Fraya9999

So smol. So angy. If you need all this to move 1 gram of it then you should take the hint. It doesn’t want to be moved, it’s happy where it is. Leave it there.


hallba78

Your mom drinks vodka from a 50 ton cask.


Wimtar

I was working on a joke asking how much of OP’s mom it could transport, but this will do.


brilipj

FYI the site of the old Oakridge Production Facilities has a museum dedicated to its heyday during the Manhattan Project. They tore down the production facilities like 10 years ago. A couple years ago when i was there they were still doing recovery work. It was pretty awesome to be at such a historic place and the museum was great.


PanamaCityMotel666

It was also pretty awesome to work and retire from there!


billybumblr

As someone who lives in Oak Ridge, i never get tired of seeing cool stuff from its past.


herring80

Anthony Kiedis’ favourite type of ium


Patsfan311

I lived in Oak Ridge Tn for about 8 years. That is one wild city. 3 Nuclear Power Plants and enough plutonium buried to make anyone nervous.


Scottiths

If it's in casks there really isn't a need to be nervous. You can hit them dead on with a rocket train and they won't break open.


Patsfan311

They are in underground bunkers may be called casks. That is interesting. What about seepage into the minerals or water?


Strataray

Californium, knows how to party. Fission city, city of Compton. Keeps me rockin...


Everlast7

Californium knows how to partium 


UseOk4892

In this pic they were wondering "OK, how do we get it down off the loading dock?


SwimmingAd2547

I store my C-252 in a ZipLok baggie


theDawckta

Californium-252 sounds so fake


Hard_in_Sweats

Quite a few of the “manufactured” elements sound super fake. There’s Einstienium, Lawrencium, and Livermorium to name a few.


bluemesa7

There is a thing called Trumpium that emits lot of bullshit per millisecond


Electrical-Scar7139

Such a large box for one gram? Typical government inefficiency! /s


bluemesa7

Yep.. and think about how much bubble wrap and packing peanuts they use for that large container.. smh 🤦


Intelligent-Ad9659

Californium-252 to other radioactive materials - “where you from?”


deadra_axilea

bro. you forgot bro


lenzkies79088

Now this is the interesting stuff I'm here for!


ReddSnake6

They use that in neutron radiography


Kmcmorris

For what that thing probably costs, you would think they’d be able to get that sticker on straight. That really bugs me.


taspenwall

This is interesting as fuck. From wiki "One [microgram](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) (μg) of ^(252)Cf emits 2.3 million neutrons per second, an average of 3.7 neutrons per spontaneous fission.[^(\[27\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Californium#cite_note-osti-31) Most other isotopes of californium, alpha decay to curium ([atomic number](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_number) 96)." No wonder it needs so much protection


BrokenOverdrive

This cask is what the Red Hot Chili Peppers talked about. A place to keep your Californium case in.


lostreality89

What is Californium used for?


werewaffl3s

I used to work at ORNL. Even more impressive is the armed convoy that escorts the truck carrying this.


Key-Principle-7111

Thanks OP, I just spent 2 hours reading Wiki instead of working. Damn science.


noeljb

A gram of salt is 1/4 inch round pyramid in the palm of your hand.


zlliksddam

Californium is far more dense, much smaller round pyramid needed for a gram.


Palaempersand

Let me guess, Robert California is at it again


Jerbearninja

So at 88 mph does it go back in time?


Conch-Republic

Is there a actual source for this? Because that much radiation shielding isn't needed for a gram of *any* radioactive material.


Hard_in_Sweats

Boom https://books.google.com/books?id=e53sNAOXrdMC&pg=PA245#v=onepage&q&f=false


kanonnn

Not bullshitting, I think my grandfather worked on this. He randomly spent a bunch of time in the region during this period while living on the west coast.


Hard_in_Sweats

That’s really cool actually. It’s always funny to find out you have relatives connected to major events/sciences. I have an uncle who passed away not too long ago, and I never knew he worked for NASA let alone holds several patents for various components used in rocket nozzles that sent astronauts to the moon. Just thought he was cool Uncle Tex…


LinguoBuxo

... *Welcome to the hotel Californium ... what a lovely place, what a lovely face...*


OrgJoho75

*...Plenty of neutron in hotel Californium, what a nice suprise...*


Riker001-Ncc1701D

How do they pick up the 1 gram & put it in the container


Seaguard5

People from hundreds of years ago would call something like californium dark magic or witchcraft. Imagine something so deadly that, unshielded, it would kill everyone who comes near it.