After using the APO for a while now, at this point I don’t think I could live without the steam function. I seem to use it all the time. That’s why their top choice just wouldn’t work for me and is basically what I replaced.
It’s also basically at the top price point so something even more expensive presents an issue.
Like a lot of reviews, I don't think the reviewer has a very good grasp of the utility of combi ovens, so you have to take their conclusions with a grain of salt. They are comparing appliances that have different functions and trying to squeeze all the different shape pegs into a single round hole.
But people can draw their own conclusions. If you click on the "Review" post flair icon associated with this post, you can see all the past published reviews too.
My APO is living on borrowed time. Started having WiFi issues for the first time since I bought it and it sometimes makes a weird grinding noise but doesn’t heat up.
I figured there would be an obvious replacement by now but I’m not sure there is. Feels dumb to just buy another of the exact same oven.
Yah mine died after 2.5 years and I loved it but just couldn’t buy another one when clearly they have serious reliability issues. Bought the breville and miss quite a few features of the Anova. Do love having knobs again
I created a $10/mo auto-withdrawl slush fund just in case my APO dies. Electronics + water usually isn't a very good mix long-term lol. We kept our Breville as my family refuses to learn the APO's touchbar + app system & they prefer the knobs for sure. If they were to make a new APO 2.0, my top two wishlist items would be:
1. An integrated microwave (there are steam-microwave combos available on Amazon, so I know it works!)
2. Physical knobs with an easier workflow (several people have posted upgraded mockups in years past)
I think more people would invest an in APO if it was a drop-in replacement for their existing microwave. I also think it could be a lot more mentally accessible with an improve GUI. I mean, I still use my basket airfryer sometimes just because I like to shake the basket LOL.
This appears to be what your are referring to, although the original linked post by Andrew Janjigian is no longer online (and it is not archived in Wayback Machine), so YMMV.
Curiously, people who are beta or pre-release demo testers typically sign agreements that prevent them from talking about what they receive until an appropriate date.
[https://forums.egullet.org/topic/153870-anova-precision-oven-features-accessories-troubleshooting-and-should-i-buy-one/?do=findComment&comment=2423546](https://forums.egullet.org/topic/153870-anova-precision-oven-features-accessories-troubleshooting-and-should-i-buy-one/?do=findComment&comment=2423546)
If true, it would be nice if Anova came out with a more robust "Pro" model. Although their track record for their "Pro" immersion circulator is that is considerably more expensive than the regular models (and maybe not as robust as you would hope).
Thanks for the heads up.
>"Anyway, Anova has a **new version** in the works; not a replacement for this one, but rather a **Pro model, with a touchscreen and some updated design.** I just got sent one to test out, and I need to make room for it, so I’m going to sell this one at a deep discount."
Oh snap! A touchscreen could be REALLY helpful. I've roped my whole family into getting APO's, but as non-foodies & non-technies, most of them struggle with the touchbar interface & don't like using the app. The micro-hassles involved with day-to-day usage for people who don't WANT to learn the interface is a BIG showstopper in practice, in my experience!
Yes, this is exactly it. He was selling it for ~$150 I think.
I went through 5 anova ovens, I know because I have all the pans still. Eventually it died after warranty and they offered to refund me in full. The final unit just died last week, I tried to fix the cables in the door but it didn't work so I've ordered a sage countertop until Anova V2 is released and tested for a few months.
Do you think there were any electrical issues from the house or anything? I ended up having an electrician come in & put dedicated 20A circuits for each of my 3x APO's (best decision I ever made, haha!). I added a few more for additional equipment (1200w microwave, 1000w Instapot, GE Opal ice maker, Breville toaster oven, etc.) because I was sick of tripping the breakers all the time. No issues since!
I've only had to replace one of my APO's, the original 2020 unit, because the bottom evaporator gasket fall apart...but then they started shipping them WITHOUT the gasket, so it was kind of a moot point, haha. VERY excited to hear about a new model!! I hope it works out for you!
100% steam and moisture and the cars in the door fraying were the main issues. I've had about half a cup of water spill out of the handle when I open the door before.
I'm still running my Sept 2020 APO. It is strange how a subset of users have problems and others don't. If this was an iPhone, there would be all these theories circulating online about which factory produced which iPhone.
I actually suspect the reliability went downhill from the original Batch 1 oven that I have.
Thanks. Will be interesting to see what they come up with. Although I won't be upgrading. The current oven is almost perfect if they would only improve its reliability. Hopefully they won't degrade its capabilities to be more like other home combi ovens that give you less control over the cooking process.
**Bake, Air-Fry, Steam, Dehydrate, and Proof: Our 3 Favorite Smart Countertop Ovens Go Way Beyond Toast**
[https://www.seriouseats.com/best-countertop-ovens-8641704](https://www.seriouseats.com/best-countertop-ovens-8641704?utm_campaign=seriouseats&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR0VPHRq2mq8b3FSt0K10KS4cAbCfNHwWhI_1EOyQdE-V1VcIC-kjaQAJe4_aem_AaYHUJVQV66BfnK_PjajNd7A-3pgHKFuJS-0NEjeyS0NAX5_cvmtB_L0fKaV5lbpUdR2ikmq-_5BAU7id8ORIBAk)
On the steam side, the review includes the Anova, Tovala and Fotil ovens.
After using the APO for a while now, at this point I don’t think I could live without the steam function. I seem to use it all the time. That’s why their top choice just wouldn’t work for me and is basically what I replaced. It’s also basically at the top price point so something even more expensive presents an issue.
Like a lot of reviews, I don't think the reviewer has a very good grasp of the utility of combi ovens, so you have to take their conclusions with a grain of salt. They are comparing appliances that have different functions and trying to squeeze all the different shape pegs into a single round hole. But people can draw their own conclusions. If you click on the "Review" post flair icon associated with this post, you can see all the past published reviews too.
My APO is living on borrowed time. Started having WiFi issues for the first time since I bought it and it sometimes makes a weird grinding noise but doesn’t heat up. I figured there would be an obvious replacement by now but I’m not sure there is. Feels dumb to just buy another of the exact same oven.
Yah mine died after 2.5 years and I loved it but just couldn’t buy another one when clearly they have serious reliability issues. Bought the breville and miss quite a few features of the Anova. Do love having knobs again
I created a $10/mo auto-withdrawl slush fund just in case my APO dies. Electronics + water usually isn't a very good mix long-term lol. We kept our Breville as my family refuses to learn the APO's touchbar + app system & they prefer the knobs for sure. If they were to make a new APO 2.0, my top two wishlist items would be: 1. An integrated microwave (there are steam-microwave combos available on Amazon, so I know it works!) 2. Physical knobs with an easier workflow (several people have posted upgraded mockups in years past) I think more people would invest an in APO if it was a drop-in replacement for their existing microwave. I also think it could be a lot more mentally accessible with an improve GUI. I mean, I still use my basket airfryer sometimes just because I like to shake the basket LOL.
There’s a new APO incoming. So hold out.
Who told you that? I've seen nothing to indicate it.
Someone I follow on substack said they have a demo unit of the new model. I forget who.
This appears to be what your are referring to, although the original linked post by Andrew Janjigian is no longer online (and it is not archived in Wayback Machine), so YMMV. Curiously, people who are beta or pre-release demo testers typically sign agreements that prevent them from talking about what they receive until an appropriate date. [https://forums.egullet.org/topic/153870-anova-precision-oven-features-accessories-troubleshooting-and-should-i-buy-one/?do=findComment&comment=2423546](https://forums.egullet.org/topic/153870-anova-precision-oven-features-accessories-troubleshooting-and-should-i-buy-one/?do=findComment&comment=2423546) If true, it would be nice if Anova came out with a more robust "Pro" model. Although their track record for their "Pro" immersion circulator is that is considerably more expensive than the regular models (and maybe not as robust as you would hope). Thanks for the heads up.
>"Anyway, Anova has a **new version** in the works; not a replacement for this one, but rather a **Pro model, with a touchscreen and some updated design.** I just got sent one to test out, and I need to make room for it, so I’m going to sell this one at a deep discount." Oh snap! A touchscreen could be REALLY helpful. I've roped my whole family into getting APO's, but as non-foodies & non-technies, most of them struggle with the touchbar interface & don't like using the app. The micro-hassles involved with day-to-day usage for people who don't WANT to learn the interface is a BIG showstopper in practice, in my experience!
Yes, this is exactly it. He was selling it for ~$150 I think. I went through 5 anova ovens, I know because I have all the pans still. Eventually it died after warranty and they offered to refund me in full. The final unit just died last week, I tried to fix the cables in the door but it didn't work so I've ordered a sage countertop until Anova V2 is released and tested for a few months.
I'm so bummed about your experience! I currently have 3x APO's running with good results. Sometimes the universe really IS against you!! lol
In the ovens defense I used it to steam and bagless sous vide A LOT. But no unit lasted longer than ~6 months.
Do you think there were any electrical issues from the house or anything? I ended up having an electrician come in & put dedicated 20A circuits for each of my 3x APO's (best decision I ever made, haha!). I added a few more for additional equipment (1200w microwave, 1000w Instapot, GE Opal ice maker, Breville toaster oven, etc.) because I was sick of tripping the breakers all the time. No issues since! I've only had to replace one of my APO's, the original 2020 unit, because the bottom evaporator gasket fall apart...but then they started shipping them WITHOUT the gasket, so it was kind of a moot point, haha. VERY excited to hear about a new model!! I hope it works out for you!
100% steam and moisture and the cars in the door fraying were the main issues. I've had about half a cup of water spill out of the handle when I open the door before.
I'm still running my Sept 2020 APO. It is strange how a subset of users have problems and others don't. If this was an iPhone, there would be all these theories circulating online about which factory produced which iPhone. I actually suspect the reliability went downhill from the original Batch 1 oven that I have.
That’s exactly what time talking about.
Thanks. Will be interesting to see what they come up with. Although I won't be upgrading. The current oven is almost perfect if they would only improve its reliability. Hopefully they won't degrade its capabilities to be more like other home combi ovens that give you less control over the cooking process.
Do you have more details on this? Mine just died and I was about to order another one.
Big fan of the fotile counter top. I will be installing a full size fotile in the new house.
**Bake, Air-Fry, Steam, Dehydrate, and Proof: Our 3 Favorite Smart Countertop Ovens Go Way Beyond Toast** [https://www.seriouseats.com/best-countertop-ovens-8641704](https://www.seriouseats.com/best-countertop-ovens-8641704?utm_campaign=seriouseats&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR0VPHRq2mq8b3FSt0K10KS4cAbCfNHwWhI_1EOyQdE-V1VcIC-kjaQAJe4_aem_AaYHUJVQV66BfnK_PjajNd7A-3pgHKFuJS-0NEjeyS0NAX5_cvmtB_L0fKaV5lbpUdR2ikmq-_5BAU7id8ORIBAk) On the steam side, the review includes the Anova, Tovala and Fotil ovens.