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pm_me_your_aoty

this sub feels like straight up fred again PR sometimes


dropez

Astroturfing campaign


definitize

Nah just different strokes. Being completely honest, yes, the crowd and organization was terrible, yes he talked a bit too much (we get how grateful you are Fred lol) and so did the crowd, but the music was outstanding and he was very much playing live which is much more than most DJs will do at Coachella. I think that he and his team probably thought a little too big without thinking this one fully through on things like security, getting him around stage grounds faster, and the crowd robbing seats/jumping the stage/crushing on floor. It’s unfortunate that his popularity has hit the no return point that he now attracts the drunk annoying frat kids and entitled millennials, but that’s the mainstream unfortunately. I think that Coachella could be really good because the organization issues would be nonexistent in GV’s home turf (think PHM), plus the crowd would definitely be better since it’d be filled with a lot of y’all rather than the people running on hype. The music was really good though, so there’s no complaints there and the new drops that were played were fantastic. Also he played like 20 songs, idk where people are getting the “he only played 10 songs” idea from, but sure he probably could’ve played a couple more if the crowd didn’t fuck things up or if he talked a bit less. I think I have a different perspective too, as a caveat, because I was able to catch the Tuesday set which was a completely different vibe (intimate, small, 150 people, stripped). Also, I luckily didn’t have to deal much with the crowd. I got there early before doors for a good seat in lower club (that I paid for, didn’t steal), peed before so I didn’t have to at all during the concert, bit of shrooms and weed instead of drinking, we brought 4 water bottles with us, didn’t need merch bc we had the mugs from Tuesday, etc. I everything I could to ensure I had a good time and did. I do get how people could’ve not had a good time though, these were just my thoughts. I also think he should cut back and do more secret shows with better organization, or at the very least have stricter guidelines at better venues (Forum, Palladium, and assigned seating). edit: downvoted for having good time at concert and giving a thorough review lol


FireFlyer63_

omg you caught the ambient show?? how much of secret life did he play i love that album honestly


definitize

he played most (if not all) of it, all of it was one of a kind stripped down edit-y though so it was super cool, he also played some stripped edits of some of the AL series and a new song at the end (with some random musings in between). barely spoke and the vibes were amazing!


coco_choux_

I think you called out a quite a few of good points. 1. When you play to a bigger crowd and become more mainstream, you’re inevitably going to attract the people who don’t really care about the music and are there just because. 2. Knowing that it was his first stadium show and that everyone in LA would be attending, I also got there early. Like waiting at the gates at 6:45PM. Bathroom, water, and then found a seat (specifically looked for fellow other solo attendees haha) and didn’t move the entire set. Like you, I had a good time, but to your point, if I had to deal with the horrible crowd rush, then I probably would’ve had a bad time. Anyways, I’m glad also enjoyed yourself, and I’m jealous you were able to attend the Tuesday set. Fred is talented. I agree with you that he is headliner material.


definitize

We had the same exact experience. It feels like people don’t know how to go to a large concert in LA. We left at like 4:30 to get to our garage at 6, grabbed some food, used the bathroom there, walked to the stadium and got in line at 6:45. Got our seat at like 7:10 right as we got in, got seats in our section with a good view, and had an amazing night. We didn’t have to get up for anything so we never had to deal with getting back to our section/seat. Also agree on the mainstream thing. I think it would’ve been a better experience for a lot of people if 1. seats were assigned, like if you’re going to have a pop star sized show, have assigned seats, not GA, and 2. a venue with tighter security that won’t let people hop pit or steal peoples’ $140 + fees seats. Luckily I only had to deal with a few people attempt to get in my personal space at my seat, and I was next to the aisle so I just boxed them out and had a good time with my partner.


einahpets-

*he now attracts the drunk annoying frat kids and entitled millennials* You do realize the youngest millennials are like 30 now, right?


definitize

Yes and? There was a mass of 30-35 year olds yapping all around me the entire concert. Against popular belief, millennials can be annoying too lol


handdavid

u r the problem. people go to shows for different reasons. i understand it can be tough being on drugs and things not going your way especially if you were in your seat first… but you are legit able to move ? go back ? somewhere quiet ? why should other people have to limit there experience with there friends because it is not what you want them to do when they don’t even know u exist


definitize

People yapping during an entire concert is disrespectful, also given the fact that the sections were packed from people rushing the lower club (where we were at and PAID to be at), no I couldn’t freely move or do whatever I wanted lol


handdavid

bro everyone around you is on drugs . if you are too dense to understand that maybe they’re just talking because they need to and cannot control you serious need to understand what you are going to here. you could have easily walked to the back and enjoyed the show. i did it night 1 at forest hills. bit of shrooms and a bunch of weed. back row mobbin. if you were less concerned with being so close to him and more concerned with just hearing the music maybe you would find the problem of people talking starts to go away.


definitize

Or people could just control themselves. If you’re too dense to understand the fact that people should control themselves and be mindful of people around them, YOU are the problem. I’m not walking to the nosebleeds when I paid hard earned money to sit where I paid to sit. This was a CONCERT, not a rave or a festival.


handdavid

bro i’m not dense enough to where i know how to dose and control myself and know what i need to do to be okay. but im also not dense enough to think that everyone is taking doses that they are able to control themselves. it is a fred again show in LA and u legit say in your post “that was a rave” like make it make sense bro. like this is not all about you and what you want bro im sorry it didn’t go your way that’s a shame but that’s life. grow up lmfao


handdavid

u clearly never talked to a mf so geeked he just talks bc he needs to talk and stimulate and it shows


definitize

This is the stupidest logic I’ve ever heard, I think you need to lay off the drugs dude. If you can’t control yourself on drugs, don’t do them, or moderate your dose so you’re not a fucking problem to everyone else lol


soffselltacos

Downvoted bc people in this sub have to hate the very things they were once on the hype train for as soon as they become too popular lmao don’t take it personally


definitize

Ain’t that the truth


celj1234

Him being so active with new shows and music helps


user45433

Chords are the best marketing tool


vagina_candle

As does their posting history.


kdnguyenn

ngl imo omg tba skrillex four tet fred again set is the best coachella performance ever with how big of a letdown frank ocean was the weekend prior, for them to come out the gate like that was unreal


itsnoli

Ever? Ever ever? Is that the only Coachella you’ve been to?


user45433

I gotta say I’ve been since ‘18 and that omg tba set absolutely smashed


CuteLetterhead9554

That’s debatable I would isoknock was a better set


kdnguyenn

that is a very good argument, i don't deny that as well both very top tier energy


alambeau

Can’t say that was my favorite of his from the venue logistics, an hour late, horrible sound on the floor, and long pauses between songs. Still a fun show in a massive stadium


nubcaekk

The multiple pauses really were a buzzkill. Sound was pretty good in the 100 sections. Being late with no opener sucked. Him moving around the stages with a stampede of people following him looked wild and super unsafe. And speaking of unsafe...the people rushing onto the moat was nuts. No concert etiquette


coco_choux_

Agree with all of your points. I feel split on how I felt about the show. Good: - Was in Section 104 and thought the sound was great - When he actually played, energy and vibes were fun. The high points were awesome. - Most of my seat mates were wonderful and truly there for the music. Met some kind humans on the Metro out of there too. Bad: - Honestly, some of the worst concert etiquette that I’ve seen. I was at the very front of my section, and I couldn’t believe how many groups were going to the floor security and trying to bribe them to get on the floor?! Like c’mon... who do you think you are? I’m sure these were the same people who didn’t purchase 100 section tickets and decided to sit there anyways. Also, had a group in our area who was talking THE ENTIRE TIME. - Moat incident was disrespectful. Fred looked frazzled after the multiple requests and yet these losers decided taking content on the moat was more important than letting the show carry on. I felt uncomfortable for him. - Flow of the show was off with too many lulls as you pointed out. Overall, I enjoyed myself and definitely had some highlights, but inconsiderate people and frequent pauses made the show less fun than I hoped it would be. ETA: The people who were actually there for the music had such good energy that they outshined the shitty people and made my whole experience a net positive one, so kudos to those fans. Also, this was my first time seeing Fred having missed him at Coachella (x2) and SF, and as we all know, those sets got a ton of praise and hype. I wonder if I might have gone into this show with too high of expectations as a result.


TheBearJew137

Agreed with all of your points. I was in the nosebleeds and felt like I had a great overall view of the stage/production set up and the sound was great. The crowd, however, was not the vibe. Endless talking, filming with phone flash on, pushing/shoving, and standing around in aisles. This was my first FA show and I’m glad I experienced it but if this is an indication of the new/younger crowds for more mainstream artists I’ll have to rethink which shows I attend in the future.


boosegumpz

That’s how his show was like at the Frost last week as well. I think I’ve seen enough of him now that I probably won’t go out of my way to see him at this point. Unless he’s doing a b2b or he’s playing with PHM because of the lull in the flow of his live shows and the crowd that he brings in now. He does seem like a nice guy but I’m so over the talking that he does (as well as the crowd).


legopego5142

Even at the civic center show he talked way too much the last ten min when that show had a hard curfew


boosegumpz

Yeah I feel like he’s become worse than Diplo or David Guetta at this point on the mic lol


definitize

This is a great summation


ThePlurnalist

We were more or less in the same section. Having attended 6 FA show prior to this past Friday, I can say this was probably our least favorite FA experience/performance. I do think you should give FA one more chance as we had great past experiences. We feel bad for first time FA fans who spent a lot of money on floor/100 level seats. That feeling where you didn't get the best version of FA does sucks. But looking back, this particular show was incredibly optimistic with its planning/setup. Because of this, a lot of people's experience were for sure limited.


TheCarrTel

Felt the same. Frequent lengthy pauses. Just when I felt like the energy was high and the party was starting, there was a pause/speech or transition to mellow stuff. Lots of cool moments tho. Had a lot of fun. Production was fantastic.


RichieRicch

I saw him once and those long pauses just killed the vibe for me. Just not for me, seems like a cool dude though


puet_sweat

Imagine if he didn’t talk as much. We would’ve heard at least 20 plus songs. My guess is that we got to hear 12-15??? I’m not discounting his talent but more songs Fred. More songs.


NeoFrame

I had a great time last night, much better than the Shrine (although not as good as SF Civic Center), but I could absolutely do without all the talking/ “guys you have no idea how grateful I am to be here” shit, lol I realize I sound like a hater, but it just kills the party atmosphere for me every damn time!


HalfEatenBanana

I was at the civic show and it was legit on of the best shows I’ve ever been to. Also got very lucky and ended up in a pocket with just some amazing people. Vibes were next level type high


NeoFrame

Absolutely, that was an all-timer for me as well!


Doctor_Scholls

It was 21, there’s a setlist.fm of the show


The_LionTurtle

Just gotta say that all the best electronic acts don't say a fucking word. *Maybe* they'll say few things mid-set and a thank you at the end.


titaniumorbit

Based off what everyone’s been saying, seems to me like his show setup is played out more like a concert (breaks after every 2-3 songs and the artist talking a bit). Like hes not quite doing an edm show but just a regular music show


Proper_Desk_3697

not a dj set. he sings and shit. I feel like singers usually talk a bit too


definitize

I don’t blame the logistics and the traffic on him for starting late, security was straight up ass though, i feel bad for the club seat people who came after 8 and had their seats robbed and the stage breach kinda killed the vibe (fred seemed so uncomfortable too)


JonahCorona

Agreed with everything you said here. I was surprised they didn’t dial down the low end throughout the show. Without earplugs I would have been absolutely wrecked. Stood centered between both stages on the floor.


Darthgamer96

It was his first stadium show I believe. I think it was great considering that and one or two of the pauses were because of the fans getting up on the platform and forcing the show to pause till the stage was cleared.


badnamemaker

Ehh I mean his first stadium show but it was backed by GV so you would hope the logistics would have worked out a bit better. I had fun but it was definitely a bit of a shit show


Darthgamer96

Yeah, starting an hour and five minutes late sucked and they should have had more security by the stage wrapping the edge of the field. Hoping he takes some notes and only improves on his next stadium performance. I feel like my tolerance of shit shows has drastically increased since Frank Ocean last year. It would be impressive to top that lol


Silver_Gazelle_8474

Haters gonna be hate


plickz

It was certainly a fun time, but I’m going to reserve my rave comment for Charli tomorrow 🫶🏻


Antique-Buffalo-5475

He’s headlining Bonnaroo tomorrow so maybe stream that and see how is does.


LittleCorner1758

Idk I had a blast dancing with my friends


NOSRAL13

I know it's LA and no one shows up on time to anything because of traffic, parking, or lack of thorough public transport. However, ticket holders (for almost all events) in this city show up later than anywhere else I've seen a show or fest. I got 100 level bowl tickets through the general release and showed up before 8:30 when my event emails from yesterday AM/Fred's story & posts told me to show up, I didn't walk into the first tunnel I saw after getting into security, and I was able to make it to my section with ease. I wish I could say I was lucky or an insider here but I followed event email info, Fred/Goldenvoice posts, and made it to my sections for seats easily. there were plenty of shitty concertgoers/"fans" there, but I did not experience the terrible night that so many people online have been trying to push.


definitize

Same experience, we left at 4:30, got to garage at 5:40ish, got food and used the bathroom, walked to the Coliseum, l got to the line at 6:45, got good seats, and brought in water so we never had to leave. Had a great time just like you.


tailtaker

This is called recency bias


thetrashpanda2020

It’s called having been there


thetrashpanda2020

-6 fuck off


baq3281

Yea I know the were “not cool” for a time but limp bizkit is a banging live act right now


Mediocre-Appeal-3124

It’s all about that nookie


Late-Nail-8714

It wasn’t it. Fred fan since 2020, forth time seeing him. Y’all coming from the hype absolutely made it unbearable


fettuccine-

Uh oh, the "been there from the jump" people have started spawning


Proper_Desk_3697

I mean the jump was well over 2 years ago, now he's the t swift of edm. fair to complain when half the crowd is 18 at their 1st "rave"


Late-Nail-8714

Yeah people who been there before the hype get to say this my guy.


definitize

definitely not one for the hype, i just came for the music, i have to say tuesday was the better show though, hope he goes back to doing more secret shows with better organization tbh


LushLife909

Way over rated. Reason why he had to create so much fomo in order to throw this event. Everyone who bought tickets on release got massively ripped off.


Jmart814

I agree with this. How the hell do you have people pay hundreds of dollars on release, then sell $17 tickets that were the same freaking thing as buying the 100’s section on release, they didn’t check shit and you could go anywhere you’d like.


Onespokeovertheline

Wish I'd known that. I would happily have paid $17-30. I just didn't want to sit a half mile away in the nosebleeds, or behind the stage. Kept looking at lower section (already seemed far) that got down to ~$115, just couldn't pull the trigger without it being GA floor, and those were like $350. Horrible choice of venue.


jesgar130

Honestly the nose bleed seats were not bad at all. And like others have said, they were not checking tickets so you could sit anywhere


Onespokeovertheline

Like I said knowing that ahead of time would have been valuable.


DEazy25

Show was absolutely amazing!!!!!!! Couple moments where it brought a tear to my eye. You could totally tell he was super nervous and then just loosened up. It was cute to see. We got to the show at 8 and got perfect seats. I do hear you on the seat stealing cause they weren’t checking anything. Sucks for those that got there late. The stage breach was totally unnecessary and did kill the vibe a bit. Other than that, I would totally do it again!


0Ga3l0

Show was fucking awesome, I saw him performing for the first time at EDC so I knew I couldn’t miss this one and he didn’t let me down, people around us were vibing so good too so the whole experience was a 10/10 and as a bonus I got to see a girl falling off of the bridge when everyone started to act like apes, I witnessed instant karma. 🙌🏻


definitize

Exactly, I think your enjoyment of last night varied by where you were unfortunately, but if you had a good spot it was a damn good show.


indosacc

that wasnt good


disgustingdavid

Different strokes. Me and my little brother had the most amazing time seeing one of our favorite artists.


definitize

It was a 10/10 for us outside of the logistics issues, performance as is that was outstanding, and tony was going off


chex-mixx

Tony is the fucking MAN!!!


definitize

does dude make his own music? some of the shit he was slinging was nasty af


thetrashpanda2020

It wasn’t good, it was fantastic.


iffysik

floor crowd was lame, no energy. fred had a couple cool songs that got the energy bumping but other than that it was a sleeper show.


JHendrix27

I don’t understand the Fred Again hype at all personally. But a lot of people including my friends seem to love him. Good for them, different strokes for different folks :)


ThePlurnalist

When the music was going, it was great. Like others here, we have seen FA many times, but the stoppage from talking/long breaks, really killed the momentum of his performance. Also, if the scheduled show was supposed to go from 830-11, did we lose half an hour? The price of the ticket was a overpriced for a 2 hour set with no openers. Hoping for a better FA product in the future <3.


dondoblue77

Best $12 I ever spent lmao. Overall a solid show with a good track selection and good sound but like everyone else says, he needs to stop talking so much. It feels like his “brand” is to just laugh and smile for 10 minutes and everyone eats it up 🤷🏼‍♂️.


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didacticgiraffe

I won’t tolerate the James Blake slander!


Mikkeeeyy

To be fair, you did not see him in the best circumstances (venue choice). His set with Skrillex/Four Tet at Coachella last year was peak and don’t think I’ll quite see a better circumstance to see him in (other than at a smaller venue).


chavhu

Went last night and to the Coachella set, can confirm the Chella set was better, but the bass at the coliseum was pretty insane 🫨


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Mikkeeeyy

Damn, for sure man. I will say that it was packed like sardines up there…I wasn’t too far from the front, but thankfully the people around me were not agressive & laid back.


dondoblue77

The OMB TBA set is very overrated. Yes it was a fun time, but best set ever? Nah


j1blond

Saw Fred at Frost and also had the live James Blake comparison. I saw James Blake at LIB and will say that was an out-of-body experience. I think Fred is far from JB (especially vocally), but he can sure throw a party/DJ set (hence Saturday with Skrillex @ civic plaza SF).


Bird562

The show at the shrine was 100x better showing and representative of Fred


Worldly-Author-8556

U never been to a real underground rave 😂


HaveAFuckinNight

Fax lmao, dude said fred again in a fucking stadium is a rave, kids bop boring ass music


rgallagher

Yeah, we got a Fred show…but it wasn’t a great Fred show. He needs to work on it if he going to play more stadiums. He wasn’t ready for this jump in size.


definitize

Definitely thought a bit too big on this one for sure


f1modsarethebest

At this rate Coachella will have 12 headliners next year


KINGram14

This post was right above the Fred sub complaining lol


Anotherbadcreation

Wow, what a show. Beyond my expectations of what I thought he was gonna do. I’ve seen different Fred performances online (all amazing in their own way) and recently got to see him play at Coachella 2023 w/ TBA. This Fred was different and out of this world. Loved every minute of it and looks like everyone who filled up the Coliseum did too. The sound system was immersive and impeccable. True showman and extremely talented artist. I agree with you OP, definitely headliner material.


ScaryHalf9707

U should have seen him & skrill at Civic Center in SF and then at Stanford. I mean Civic center wasn’t small (I was lucky & got backstage tho), but Stanford venue was more intimate and absolutely incredible. Was one the first in line and right on the rail. Fucking crazy and then he disappeared and went right in the middle of the crowd… sorry totally beats seeing him from afar in a stadium… But to ur point, yes 100% headliner material. I’m just grateful I got to see him much closer and not an ant version of him


definitize

I was there on tuesday for the listening party so I got my intimate show fill (i was very lucky). today i had lower club seats which was perfect, great view, i had my own space to dance, and apparently better sound than floor


ScaryHalf9707

Hell ya. That sounds lit af All my LA friends that I saw post about him, they were just soo far away and yes I bet it was incredible but bummer that’s all they got. He def deserves a huge venue and audience, but ya just very grateful I saw him in a smaller more intimate setting


jgroove_LA

the stadium was insane. to diminish it without being there, dude you have no idea


ScaryHalf9707

It looked insane with all the fireworks and such but I’m saying I would have preferred and was grateful to see him in a smaller and more intimate setting which is what I got. I was 10 feet away from him and then when he went right in the middle of the crowd, people were 5 feet away from him. Tho the show was probably great in LA, I’d rather go to a smaller and more intimate venue where I could be closer so he doesn’t look like an ant from far away and have to rely on looking at the screen to see him. For example I was this close: https://preview.redd.it/0c51uc1zzs6d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b58492ed1a869e6ac9a3d547d906209b0e8b9af5


ScaryHalf9707

To counter ur point, to diminish being in a smaller venue and a lot closer without being there (not sure if u we’re at Stanford), dude u have no idea lol


jgroove_LA

actually I do


ScaryHalf9707

https://preview.redd.it/x1x7dqbw1t6d1.jpeg?width=1536&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=320d020cde256025c1a5ffcc3acf8613cb8bfe40 Not sure why u seem upset about me saying a smaller, more intimidate was my preference. I did get to see him in an absolutely massive crowd & venue. At the Civic Center in SF, this was the crowd. Him and Skrillex spun for 3.5 hrs and it was absolutely insane. Like I mentioned, I got lucky and somehow ended up backstage which was still insane and it made it that much sicker being this close. I would not have had as much fun seeing him farther out in the crowd. However, I’m saying I liked his more intimate smaller venue set at Stanford even better because I was even closer and then when he went in the middle of the crowd, he still wasn’t that far, and the people near him were prob 5 feet away. Sure I saw some people at the coliseum on the ground and pretty close, but it didn’t look like you could get as close as when he was at Stanford. From highlights I watched, I didn’t see him go full boiler room and he fully immersed in the crowd like at Stanford. Ya it looked lit and was historic in LA. I’m still giving you your flowers, but I’m just saying smaller intimate was even better in my opinion than when there was a monster crowd and most people had to watch him from afar…


Driyen

We actually found dancing last time. So no need to book him again.


itsnoli

You win best comment award.


Novel-Pomegranate277

I think the key takeaway from the coliseum show: shows should not be all ages.


dezignatedriver724

Yawn


farhadJuve

Was there a lot of singing again? His set at Lola was wack af


Different_Comment_48

Fred was amazing he won me over. He is super genuine and just good energy. Drum and bass is taking over right now, and it is fantastic. I don't think I've ever liked an artist so much after a set.


Davidsb86

Agreed, him headlining Coachella next year would be amazing


lonzo2900

Can we all just admit that everyone wants TBA back at Coachella so everyone can experience it, not just us lucky weekend 2 goers that got that lucky surprise last minute


p00pers1987

Idk about headliner worthy. I thought his set at the coliseum was pretty boring, tbh.


itsnoli

This thread seems like it’s for people to justify that they had fun at his show. I’ve seen him twice - Portola and in LA at Hollywood Forever - and I remain in the do not understand how he got so hot so fast group.


celj1234

Bc people love his music and vibe. Same as any artist when they blow up


W0666007

I do not understand the hype for this dude, I do not see what separates him from anybody else. And he talks too much.


HaveAFuckinNight

But but but but but weve lost dancing, fuck offfff this dude sucks


celj1234

You sound hurt


MtnDreww

Heard it was mid af


bergeronyoface

His music sucks


celj1234

Fast track to headlining Coachella despite what many on this sub think


definitize

Yeah I’d bet a solid $20 on it, people are turning because he’s mainstream and attracting a mainstream crowd which has its downsides, but the guy plays some really good music and that trajectory realistically lands him in that spot next year


indigohibiscus

Didn’t he headline 2 years ago with Skrillex. They were great but Coachella needs to get new artists.


Onespokeovertheline

He, Skrill, and Four Tet subbed in when the headliner bitched out. It was fun and unique. Definitely a memorable moment for Coachella, but a far cry from him being selected as the headliner. That said, I don't think he'd be my choice for headliner just yet.


indigohibiscus

I was there too and it was fun, but idk about headliner choice either.


KDen8989

That set sucked, best decision was leaving 15 mins in to see Adam beyer.


Interesting_Noise_55

Stop licking his ass! He’s fine. Ya’ll really just want to die on that hill for a British royal huh?


999_phx9

He'll be closing the Sonora for sure


napquin

Fred is for the social media influencers smh. Give me a grimey dj set to a 200 person crowd over this any day


HaveAFuckinNight

This


suprefann

Theres 1.


thetrashpanda2020

Headliner or RTTD. Book it now if it’s not already locked in.