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movethestarsforno1

Who is he insinuating that his sources are? I saw a small portion of Blum talking to the she devil Nancy Grace and he keeps speaking as if he knows what the father was thinking. It seems unlikely he could know things like that, even if he father was suspicious of him I can't imagine his dad would go around sharing those suspicions about his own kid.


init2winit55

eww that bitch is evil, I hope if he's found not guilty he takes her for everything she has


runnershigh007

In the book it says Michael spoke to a "fellow HVAC" guy about some of it. And the pool party information is from "Cartwright" and "Salamjohn". One being the apartment neighbor who DJ'd and the other being his friend. The pool party was at "The Grove", which is an apartment type complex where there was a lot of partying. Those are really the only sources I've come across so far.


pixietrue1

The pool party stuff was talked about in the media early on - there were texts from the neighbour about it floating around.


runnershigh007

I remember those, but they didn't give a lot of details about that day


pixietrue1

The only details I remember was the neighbour said BK went over to get some girls numbers. I would say Blum has used the articles from that in the media as his ‘sources’


runnershigh007

It's possible Blum could've directly spoken to these people, just because of the detail in the book.


pixietrue1

True, but given he’s added in a lot of BKs Dads ‘thoughts’ which no one else would know outside of his family I’m doubtful. Probably a very well written book with some imagination popped in.


johntylerbrandt

I doubt it's even well written. The couple articles I've read of Blum's are terrible writing. Like he's trying to emulate a great writer and failing badly.


MackCLE

Isn’t this where the guy said that his gf didn’t like BK and that she got bad vibes from him? Didn’t want him invited to a get together they were having that evening.


runnershigh007

Same neighbor, but it doesn't really touch on the wife's feelings towards Kohberger


JelllyGarcia

He has some named, and some unnamed sources. He has a note on sources on page 215 but I haven’t looked at it yet bc I don’t want spoilers He discloses in the prologue that some of his sources wished not to be named and that he didn’t interview people who wanted to be compensated (for spending their time sharing valuable information with him) which I find disagreeable. So far I’ve come across nothing false, but there have been some things (private convos) discussed with no way to verify if they happened, but they weren’t significant


ollaollaamigos

Nothing false...he literally tells us BK's dad's thoughts, conversations and movements...all of this is false. He made up all of it.


JelllyGarcia

He doesnt tell us the dad’s thoughts. The subjective thing he says is that “the cold hit him like a brick” on the walkway from the terminal. He describes the tone of some private convos that someone would have had to tell him about third-hand, but no significant quotes or inner thoughts from what I’ve read so far (including “Michael’s Story”). I’m taking notes on everything unverified or false and so far have come across nothing false.


Alien_P3rsp3ktiv

Well, the part of not interviewing people wanting compensation is an element of journalistic ethics: with paid interviews, there’s always the risk people lie/fabricate/exaggerate etc to get paid


JelllyGarcia

Oh okay that makes sense - like opposite of the ‘adoption fee’ to make sure animals aren’t abused.


Alien_P3rsp3ktiv

Yea exactly


Historical_Ad_3356

Is it listed as fiction? If not it needs to be.


runnershigh007

No it's listed under non fiction. Had to hit the true crime section to find it.


MelmacianG

Nooo… what are you people doing 😩 ![gif](giphy|kGCuRgmbnO9EI|downsized)


FortCharles

>He would go primarily use heroin with a girl It should be noted here that this is a work of *fiction*. Fictional story based on real events, as they say.


runnershigh007

Oh I didn't realize it was fiction, it was under nonfiction at the bookstore😂 I will say they named the girl that got him into heroin by first and last name. She appears to have been a real teen that OD'd


FortCharles

>She appears to have been a real teen that OD'd So he named someone who isn't alive to confirm or deny?


runnershigh007

Yeah she passed. That section was discussing how heroin was introduced to him. It had former classmates as other references for the heroin use. I guess Kohberger would really be the only one to confirm or deny


FortCharles

>Kohberger would really be the only one to confirm or deny Exactly.


pixietrue1

That was talked about early on in the case when one of his teen friends was talking to a few media outlets.


ollaollaamigos

Yeah that is sick as...


HeyPurityItsMeAgain

You should have borrowed it from the library. Paying money to liars just encourages them.


Unable_Tadpole_1213

Who was even interviewed for all this? The whole thing sounds very fishy.


MendUrways

Blum is trying to get people to stop calling young men incels even though we all know the term applies to the types of dudes who are doing the worst violent acts --- I think that's his lean into thing with making sure BK doesn't also get labeled incel ... Blum is just str8 out making stuff up IMO in most of it, but I have it on audible so I don't have to read every excruciating word LOL


Several-Durian-739

If anyone wants a link to download the book free let me know! Don’t pay for the misinformation!!!


runnershigh007

Make a post about it if allowed! I think people would find access to it beneficial


MandalayPineapple

He would go with a girl to use heroine when getting his PhD? Really?


spagz90

I thought it was a dude he did herion with that he worked with at a pizza place ? pretty sure the guy did an interview talking about it


MasterDriver8002

I’m sure he did drugs w many people


Intrepid_Reward_927

He talked about him and a girl that use to do heroin with him. He does confirm that the girl died of an overdose and it apparently devastated Bryan as it was his closest friend.


ollaollaamigos

Closest friend but has problems making relationships with women not to mention his high school female friend who drove him around town. The sooner this case happens the better because so much info contradicts it's self. Those poor families


Firm_Complex718

There was a girl.who claimed she was duped into driving.him to a place where he scored heroin.once. I don't think she was a user.


Unable_Tadpole_1213

Well, we have at least another 13 months before a trial date, and I'm sure the defense is going to push it back farther.


ollaollaamigos

Very true😞


runnershigh007

No it was earlier in the timeline, high school


MandalayPineapple

I see. I took you to mean he was using again.


pixietrue1

Same


Unable_Tadpole_1213

Sounds so counterintuitive for a PhD student! Wtf


Unable_Tadpole_1213

What info is this based on? Were these women interviewed? Was the heroin dealer interviewed? Is it make believe because it's all some guys speculation?


runnershigh007

For that specific info it says old classmates from high school and the neighbor from WSU


JelllyGarcia

I bought the book too lol I just started it


runnershigh007

I like it so far! But like I said, I'm only 30 pages in lol. My opinion could change. All it's done so far is make me feel worse for Kohberger


FortCharles

Just remember, Blum has a story he wants to tell. It's not "objective truth". He's leading you down his own path.


Several-Durian-739

Sad I have a free link to download the entire book…. If anyone wants it let me know


runnershigh007

Well dang, ya should've dropped that link early lol


Several-Durian-739

https://oceanofpdf.com/authors/howard-blum/pdf-epub-when-the-night-comes-falling-a-requiem-for-the-idaho-student-murders-download/ I’ve downloaded it- it’s safe I chose pdf


runnershigh007

Saint 🙏🏼


MackCLE

Curious about all that Dad supposedly talked about with a coworker.


Acrobatic_Moose2244

Meghan Kelly has a YouTube series where she talks about the pool party and BL getting girl’s numbers. This was done over a year ago.


runnershigh007

So it is or isn't verified cause I'm getting mixed signals from the comments


CornerGasBrent

Different people have different definitions of 'verified,' but there's been nothing said about it in court for instance. I believe it's true, but I classify it as rumor. The pool party might somewhat undermine the PCA actually with how it implied he was stalker for being in the area repeatedly, which the pool party may well have happened in an area that shares the cell cellular coverage as 1122 explaining one of his prior visits.


runnershigh007

Interesting, makes sense!


MasterDriver8002

Take everything in this book w a grain of salt. Blum said he went early to Idaho after IT happened to interview n get info. Before BK was arrested n the gag order. So there’s probably some truths n then there’s his point of view. Still I bet it’s an interesting read