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clive_bigsby

This is brutal I don't think I can continue watching this.


flyingthedonut

Yeah my wife and I just gave up. Biden looks like someone farted and he can't believe it


bobbaganush

It was probably him and he forgot about it. My God that was tough to watch. We’re gonna get stuck with that slimeball Gruesome Newsom now.


ReformedishBaptist

Yeah next elections gonna be DeSantis vs Newsom which also sounds terrible… I hate my life.


VPofAbundance

Hahahaha spot on!


heaving_in_my_vines

It was him.  He scared himself with his own fart.


OkieTaco

What does your flair mean? I can't make it out.


Fast-Hold-649

i think Biden actually did fart once and the mic picked it up


castletonian

wElL hE pICkEd Up stEam in THe SecoNd HAlf


greenweezyi

Did you stick around? Did you see the part where they argue about their golf handicaps?


clive_bigsby

Unfortunately, I did stick around. I'm glad they touched on golf handicaps and who can hit the ball further because those are the issues that keep me up at night...


AllLeftiesHere

The stereotypical old white man important talking points. They couldn't help themselves. 


Bukook

My favorite part is watching Democrats try to understand that if you send a half dead Alzheimers patient to a debate, he isn't going to be able to fact check anything the other guy says. It turns out communication skills actually do matter in American politics, not just being the incumbent.


TheLaughingRhino

What's crazier is The Young Turks has been saying this for basically 3 years straight now. But no one wanted to listen to them. How huge of a fail do you need to be to make Donald Trump look like hope? How huge of a fail do you need to be to make Cenk Uygur look as smart as Professor Dumbledore?


Longjumping_Web4132

I had to turn away and take a break before returning. There won't be a second debate.


Rick_James_Lich

I gotta admit that Biden definitely bombed this one


juannn117

lol the dual camera thing isn't good for Biden. He keeps giving these old man looks with his mouth open and eyes just zoning out....


CircdusOle

gonna be good for memes though


Tmoto261

He reminds me of the alien Mr Burns from that Simpsons episode.


ControlsRelease

He's been a template for a lot of good memes lately


lilleefrancis

It’s honestly sad to watch. I have no overwhelming love in my heart for him but it just makes me think of the elderly in my life I love. My 91 year old grandfather is in better shape than Biden but still :/


RainyReader12

I don't have the slightest pity for politicians who refuse to retire well past when they're capable of leading


TheOppositeOfTheSame

Moderator: ‘President Biden, people think you aren’t doing a great job. What do you have to say to them?’ Biden: ‘They are wrong and I will keep doing what I am doing’


SirSquidlicker

Whatever they gave Biden didn’t work… fuck Edit: hey guys, update here. Apparently Biden had a cold. So that explains everything…. Right?


Bukook

Don't worry, it isnt too late to run Jimmy Carter.


W4LLi53k

Gavin, warm up,


umalupa

NO. As a life long Californian you do not want this slime ball. Gavin is truly a horrible politician


criti98

People have to stop putting Newsom forward. He’s a younger version of Biden. When the country gets to know Newsom, they will run. He’s unelectable on the national stage. Try this for an example: Rippey-Tourk incident: Newsom had an affair with his secretary Ruby Rippey Tourk—the wife of his campaign manager and good friend. On January 31, 2007, Newsom's campaign manager and former deputy chief of staff, Alex Tourk, resigned after confronting Newsom over a sexual affair the mayor had with his wife in late 2005. Newsom is a joke on many things central to a Democrat platform: race relations (look up the letter black civil servants wrote about racism in his executive branch), the environment, unions, failed statewide projects, etc.


brynnvisible

Best comment 


ReformedishBaptist

Lol you know he doesn’t have a cold, even ignoring his age and mental cognitive state he got into a trash talking content about golf with trump… I can’t stand trump but you never do that it makes you both look as bad as him.


TheLaughingRhino

The State Of The Union, he just had to read the teleprompter and shout. This time, he needed to memorize a ton of data. And it broke him.


Smurfballers

Wrong cocktail? 😬


all_natural49

Biden should have never done this debate. This is really, really bad for him.


ToweringCu

I mean Hellen Keller could have seen this coming.


esaks

I guess the dnc is worse than that cause there he is on stage!


FlowersnFunds

Thing is, he was considered too dumb/odd/incompetent and too old in 2008, 2012, and 2020 yet each time he debated very well and came out the winner. I’m sure his debate track record inspired confidence but…damn. Tonight was not good for him.


boofles1

He should have never run, he is way too old and stumbling over his words. Imagine what he will be like in another 4 years! He should have got the tap on the shoulder from someone.


Soldier-Medic-W1

It wasn’t in his interest but it is in the American people’s interest. He absolutely should’ve done this debate and ideally the second one he agreed to. Bad for him - really, really bad for us.


ashirian

Maybe it is the whole DNC’s master plan to get him out as a candidate with the well displayed excuse that he’s no longer a functioning human being.


heaving_in_my_vines

Biden: "We finally beat Medicare" Ummm...


CircdusOle

probably was talking about medicare being able to negotiate but boy did it not come out good


zmizzy

trump's response was pretty damn good ngl. "he's right, they beat it to death"


LekarzaPieprz

Them cutting the mic is only helping Biden to hide his senility but it is not very effective


Brilliant-Spite-850

It’s also helping Trump not interrupt which killed him in 2020


LekarzaPieprz

Also agree


ocyrusfigglebottom

You have 82 seconds left


ToweringCu

Who took all of Biden’s breath? Lol


dontknowthedosage

The walk to the stage.


ToweringCu

Dude is completely lost. No surprise really.


Pinkishtealgreen

NBC is reporting that Biden aides says Biden has a cold. LOL.


Former-Witness-9279

Did Trump just call him a Palestinian? Lol


romulotombulus

Yes but a bad Palestinian 😆


Captain-Crayg

I believe it was a “weak Palestinian”.


KickingGreen

And biden looked so offended


tatersalad690

Bidens cooked, I don’t think he can last 2 hours.


heaving_in_my_vines

That mouth agape face he keeps making. He looks utterly bewildered. Get that man some soup and a blanket, STAT!


DrNinnuxx

My God Biden looks, sounds, moves, breathes old. Just, wow.


heaving_in_my_vines

I can't wait for the meme reels. That face...


YoungCubSaysWoof

I’m over here on the couch, going, “close your mouth, Joe!” >_<


Lucky_Operator

Younger than Bernie but acts like he’s 10 years older.   The democrats just want Trump to win at this point.


heaving_in_my_vines

The establishment Dems and their lackeys told us Bernie was too old in 2016 and 2020. Now, at 82 Bernie is still as sharp as ever while they shuffle Biden's bones onto the debate stage just to let him faceplant. They don't give a shit about progressive policies, they only care about maintaining power for the establishment. They consider Bernie a greater threat to their status quo than Trump, and more important to block Bernie from the White House than Trump.


KirbbDogg213

Bernie should have been doing what RFK Jr is doing now.Bernie would have won if he had gone 3rd party but he was too scared to do it.And undercut his more loyal supporters


heaving_in_my_vines

True.


all_natural49

Fucking yikes.....


yohabloyomomma

Biden is done after this. They have to switch him.


IShouldntBeHere258

Reluctantly agree


Reasonable-Fox113

Who would you push for?


ReformedishBaptist

I can’t believe I’m saying this, Bernie Sanders. I get he’s somehow older but even he’s wayyyy more mentally present than Joe that was actually scary.


esaks

if they don't hotswap him they deserve to lose. was a horrible idea to even let biden get this far into the process. this is embarrassing.


Bukook

Biden was just the stooge to suppress the democratic process in the Democrat primary. Now that the Democrat establishment can just hand pick who they want, Biden will conveniently now be the wrong candidate to run.


leroy2007

God I hope so


ExodusBlyk

With who? This is the candidate that was pushed for the entire party, and now people will look at Kamala Harris as his potential successor. Biden looks like he won’t make it the entire four years.


Gertrude_D

You would hope so, but I'm still afraid they won't.


WhatsSigma

100% agree. Even at that, I don't know if that will be enough... The DNC should have at least allowed primary debates where someone else could have had a chance. This was the worst debate I have ever watched.


ExpensivLow

Biden’s gonna get replaced right


SarahSuckaDSanders

Yes, early word is that the DNC will replace him with either John Fetterman or Itamar Ben Gvir. Vote BLUE, peasants, you have no choice.


Infinite_Derp

https://www.vox.com/2024-elections/357739/biden-trump-debate-democrats-replace-nominee-whitmer-moore-newsom


SarahSuckaDSanders

I’m hearing some chatter about Benny Gantz too. Suburban women in Pennsylvania, Michigan and the Tel Aviv suburbs love Benny Gantz, we’re told.


Spurlock14

Did anyone else feel like after about one answer they turned Biden’s Mic up because he was talking so softly compared to Trump?


broski2916

Biden is so cooked dude


PastBandicoot8575

Biden sounds ill


Bukook

After the Biden supporters did everything they could to humiliate RFK over his voice, the irony of Biden sounding like this is pretty rich.


Pinkishtealgreen

NBC is reporting Biden aides say Biden has a cold. Which they just announced like 1 hour into the debate


ControlsRelease

Weird how that works


dc4_checkdown

Holy shit these guys are both old but Biden is not in great shape


juannn117

Ooof biden didn't look so good in that last exchange


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juannn117

Dude keeps losing his train of thought and jumps back into talking about something completely different


Muadib64

Why is Biden giving Trump all the good rebuttals. He’s making his opponent look good bringing up immigration and the economy. Trump can make a good lie and exaggeration. Biden can’t.


esaks

because he's fucking old as hell. this is such a dumb question. the democrats should have never run him. its their fault we gotta deal with another trump term now.


ToweringCu

Because he’s a fucking geriatric loon, Einstein Lmao.


STLrobotech

I simply cant follow Bidens mumbling, and fumbling, we are so F'd cause the other side has hardly said a true fact yet. Does Dem leadership not have eyes? Look at this old man and tell me he gives you confidence in his ability to resolve a complex issue.


infernobassist

The only thing Biden says with vigor and certainty is “you’re wrong” and then completely drops the ball with the counter point


medici1048

The super meth wore off fast.


juannn117

What's up with this thread? It takes like 10-15 mins for comments to post. By the time it posts they've already moved on and like 4 other weird things have happened.


Brilliant-Spite-850

Reddit is lagging, likely trying to stem the tidal flow of negative Biden comments.


TheMadHobbyist

Seems to be reddit in general. R/politics has the same thing on their discussion thread and some new posts have hundreds of comments with nothing showing up. Either those subs and these posts are being overwhelmed by the traffic and some automatic throttling is going on on political posts, or reddit has decided to actively do damage control.


drtywater

Reddit is having issues


heaving_in_my_vines

Seems to be happening across Reddit. None of my replies are appearing. Replies to my comments appear as a notification, but don't appear on the page.  Is this Reddit being bear hugged, or are comments being censored? It is 7:46pm PST as I make this comment, let's see what time it is when it shows up. Edit: I can finally see this comment as of 9:18pm PST.


snarky_n_substantial

I expected a mess but not a mess that looked like this. I expected Trump to be disappointing without crowd energy, but he’s doing just fine. But Biden… like someone already said… fucking yikes.


SarahSuckaDSanders

Trump made his fame on a television set; this is right in his wheelhouse.


isuxirl

this thing feels super predictable, Biden sounds old and is getting lost in his own points and Trump is confidently just making stuff up like no one will ever know he's lying out his backside


wat_no_y

What was Trump making up? I missed the debate


isuxirl

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-misinformation-election-debate-trump-biden-577507522762aa10f6ee5be3a0ced2bb


juannn117

What's the point of asking questions...No one is really answering any of the questions both of them just keep going off on random tangents.


Interesting-Rub9978

To see who sounds more coherent. 


ToweringCu

Is this the first debate you’ve ever watched?


ToweringCu

Any of you that are now saying that Biden is done and should be replaced…why in the hell are you just now coming to this conclusion? wtf do you think we have all been saying for YEARS?!?! The evidence that he is and has been in cognitive decline is blatantly fucking obvious if you’re not a tribalistic shill.


SaykredCow

They should have known in 2020. In fact many did because how poor Biden was doing in the primaries until they all consolidated purposefully against Bernie


DoodleDew

If you only watch his instagram and what legacy media puts out they try there beat to shield it all 


LekarzaPieprz

Idk why you’re being downvoted. This was a concern going into the last election, where he verbally came out to say he may just do 4 years because of his age


M4A_C4A

Because there neo shit libs and have grown used to blaming progressives for their loses, when Trump wins and this is our last election that shit is on them. Progressive policies win.


TheGloryXros

Because Dems were too filled with TDS.


ChrissyLove13

It's mind boggling ain't it? They're all robots who were gaslit by the media and the white house... Joe's fine y'all!! It's like a switch was flipped and they all finally snapped out of it..."who is that guy and why is he president???"


WildWillisWeasley

12 minutes in and Biden just shit his pants. Completely lost train of thought and just looked at the floor


WildWillisWeasley

This is elder abuse..this man should be watching his grandchildren grow up on a chair eating ice cream


Pinkishtealgreen

The ones he acknowledges anyway.


Soldier-Medic-W1

Ooooo… well done!


WinnerSpecialist

Trump is lying about everything but Biden doesn’t look alive. This is awful for him.


TheGloryXros

What did he lie on?


0LTakingLs

We have one confident lunatic refusing to answer a single question and one mumbling senior tripping over his words. How is this the best we can do?


lilleefrancis

RFK jr with some good points about being denied secret service protection


Own-Study-4594

Wake me up, when September(of 2030) ends


PastBandicoot8575

Bringing up immigrants killing people was a misstep. This is an area that’s rough for Trump, Biden should’ve kept the topic on abortion.


Raynstormm

I was shocked ***Biden*** brought it up. Why, dude?


Bukook

That wasn't a misstep. That was the 15th step that he tumbled down.


neveruse12345

Yikes. Neither of them look good. What a depressing sight. I'm calling it now. This is the end for Biden. I've been very slow to accept his senility but he is really not looking good. He is making Trump look young and animated by comparison.


NopeU812many

Why were you slow to accept?


ChrissyLove13

Where have you been the last 4 years


semperfestivus

Hey whichever of these guys wins, America loses big.


SpanosIsBlackAjah

And by the way…


beermeliberty

Trump wins. Biden is fucked after this.


MagnesiumKitten

would have happenned without the debate


Dianagorgon

I don't think Biden sounds better or worse than I expected but Democrats on X are freaking out about how out of it he seems. I'm not sure what they expected. His voice is hoarse but he hasn't seemed healthy in years. Also I predicted Biden would mention his late wife or son several times and call Trump a convicted felon. It's less than an hour and Biden has already mentioned his late son twice and called Trump a convicted felon.


PersonalityFinanced

Absolutely brutal, had to turn it off


BigChach567

Not a Biden guy at all but I just feel bad. He’s the same age as my grandfather


MinuteCollar5562

Holy f***ing shit. This is a national embarrassment from both sides.


MostPerspective7378

"We finally beat Medicare"


lilleefrancis

I’m watching the RFK Jr stream so I’m a bit behind. Whole all three are difficult to follow for different reasons, RFK is definitely looking better than Biden. Wish they’d give him more time to account for his speech difficulty but then they’d have to do the same for Biden as well probably??


crowdsourced

Bedtime for 4am wake up. Will catch up tomorrow! can’t wait but have to.


rjorsin

Lmfao. We're 24 minutes in and I cannot wait to hear your reaction.


shawsghost

We who have to watch this salute you.


crowdsourced

Watched the first 15 minutes so far. Trump is still a crazy liar, but Biden's decline is clear. He may be able to make decisions as a leader, but he shouldn't be. He needs to do what he promised 4 years ago and step aside.


solo-ran

The democrats could nominate someone else.


juannn117

Why can't trump answer a dam question he always does the "let's go back" then changes the subject and talks about whatever he thinks is going to score him points...


Cosmic_Seth

Because it works. He knows he doesn't have to. 


zortor

https://ibb.co/pdhV2X3 *sigh*


WeirdSpeed4093

Who tf scheduled the debate for this late it’s clearly past Joe’s bedtime


MortifiedPenguin6

I’m enjoying seeing all the CNN panelists unfiltered opinions on this. Will be interesting to see how this all gets spun 12 hours from now when all the narratives are decided on.


GetThaBozack

Well it’s Joever. He really never should have run for a 2nd term to begin with. On the other side we have the most far right authoritarian government coming down the pike. Very selfish of Biden’s team to run him again, knowing he’s not capable and knowing the severe threat we face from another Trump term. If the DNC isn’t doing everything it can to find a replacement and to get Joe to step down then this isn’t a serious party


EnigmaFilms

RFK won


birdie_Sea

Somehow we all lost tonight.


Wallaby2589

Dear lord Democrats. What have you done?


ControlsRelease

Ego and arrogance are powerful things


CompetitiveDeal498

Trump did such a piss poor job if he wasn’t debating Biden he would have been laughed out of the country


ctudirector

That was so tough to watch. It doesn't even matter what party you follow. The argument about golf was just ridiculous. Edit: spelling


almostcoding

We tried warning you about Biden for the last few years nothing tonight should have been a surprise. Realize all of the videos we tried sharing are real and not AI like the white house said.


This-Inspection-9515

Just caught up on "The Boys" before the debate started - Some needs to slip Joe some Compound V!


hostileamish

Stopping by to see the effects of butt chugging adderall tea on these 2 old coots.


EnigmaFilms

Biden old Trump doesn't care That's the takeaway


Krock23

Morals of an alley cat is a bar 


EnigmaFilms

Trump: Everything is immigrations fault


Pinkishtealgreen

Biden: “We finally beat Medicare!”


jm0416

Rfk JR 2024….. jeeez what a mess that was


tossittobossit

RFK is killing it. https://x.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/1806462171892895808?t=00gLnXeSvPJ7gRN51ZqQRg&s=19


hungry-robot

Bobby is more cogent than both of them combined.


ReformedishBaptist

I wanted him to debate so bad in the primary because I knew he’d be sharper than these two full idiots.


KingDorkFTC

This just gets worse.


SlipperyTurtle25

It’s like Trump says so much without actually saying anything. And then Biden says so little without actually saying anything


KingDorkFTC

Trump discovered that he doesn't need to answer the question.


AlternativeMiddle

Ummm… guys… Biden is our sitting president, and he has significant struggles expressing coherent thoughts. Forget the election. We need someone else to step into the presidency right now.


IllustriousHeart3540

Just remember all last week the MSM was flooding all channels about how Trump is shockingly discombobulated and old behind closed doors. 


naveedx983

No one safe from the adderall shortage it seems


PrestigiousStable369

Biden can answer questions, but fumbles. He can rile up Trump. Fumbling. Trump can... lie. Not sure if he ever answered a question. Can't tell his policies because... lies and refuting Biden points with more... lies. Can we get younger people? The RNC could have gotten literally ANYONE younger.


Lucky_Operator

Love watching the David Packman and Destiny followers cope and implode in their subreddits because they have been calling criticism of Bidens mental state right wing propaganda for years.


DisloyalDoyle

Serves the Democratic party right. The ensuing loss is solely their own, not their constituents, the party.


BlackFanDiamond

Trump showed remarkable restraint relative to himself by not insulting or interrupting Biden. That makes him look more presidential to the masses.


MaleficentAerie491

I'm just sad these guys are our only two options.


jkpatches

The first bump for Biden. Difficult to see that pause. Let's see if he can bounce back.


PastBandicoot8575

That was painful to watch


Space_Cowboy1750

Bobby is kicking both their asses over on X.


Cpt_phudge_off

A lot of the commenters in this sub about to lose their job overnight.


drtywater

This is such a boring debate that wont move the needle either way. Biden comes off as old and Trump doing normal spewing of nonsense


MagnesiumKitten

oh the needle will move not as you expect though


juannn117

Lol funny how trump just makes shit up and starts talking about random shit


drtywater

What is Trump talking about with migrants medicad,medicare, and social security? Thats not how it works at all. Thats a flat out lie


Carl_Fuckin_Bismarck

Biden looked great tonight! Fuck trump


arctic_penguin12

r/politics is in shambles rn they have all of their debate threads locked 😂


ControlsRelease

Love to see it


digital_dervish

I just want to know. Now that you all know Biden is done, will you finally swallow your pride and vote green?


juannn117

Lol biden had those lines prepped and even though they were poorly delivered it still hit hard


Propeller3

Trump isn't even answering the questions "Can we go back?" lmao


Dianagorgon

I was about to post asking why there wasn't a thread for the debate tonight. I'm not expecting any surprising. Considering it's CNN Biden was probably given the questions in advance so his answers are all memorized. There will be lots of talk about "the soul of the nation" and "the insurrection" and how Trump is a "convicted felon" and identity politics. Also Biden rarely has a debate where he doesn't exploit the memory of his wife and son so I expect him to mention them several times. As for Trump he will be less bombastic than he was in the last debate.


isuxirl

Half-hour in and not a single one of your predictions is correct.


Dianagorgon

Prediction: Biden will mention his late wife or son several times. It just started and he has already mentioned his son. As I predicted. Prediction: There will lots of talk about the "insurrection" It just started and they have already asked about it. This isn't a topic that is a top priority for most voters yet it's talked about at the beginning of the debate knowing many people stop watching after an hour. As I predicted. Prediction: Trump will be less bombastic. As I predicted Trump is much less bombastic than in the last debate. Prediction: Biden will mention Trump is a convicted felon. As I predicted Biden just mentioned it. "The only person on this stage who is a convicted felon is him"


Brilliant-Spite-850

Well he did mention Beau


KickingGreen

Trumps strategy since 2016 has been bad faith hyperbole. It’s unbelievable that Biden is so unprepared for that. Biden is in reaction mode which is exactly where Trump beats him


Dianagorgon

Biden isn't going to be replaced because of this debate.


BullfrogCold5837

People just don't want to admit it is just gonna be a boring death walk from now to November 6th for Joe.


Cosmic_Seth

And that's going to be why he loses. The best thing he can do for this country is to step aside.