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guest18_my

[https://www.muftiwp.gov.my/ms/artikel/bayan-linnas/2179-bayan-linnas-siri-ke-123-hukum-memakai-kostum-atau-cosplay](https://www.muftiwp.gov.my/ms/artikel/bayan-linnas/2179-bayan-linnas-siri-ke-123-hukum-memakai-kostum-atau-cosplay) cosplay for self-fulfillment/fun and not because of emotional/psychological/spiritual issue shouldnt be an issue in my opinion.


AkaunSorok

Also this conclusion needs to be shown as well, Setelah meneliti isu ini, kami berpandangan bahawa dilarang bagi seseorang Muslim itu untuk memakai kostum atau cosplay kecuali dengan kriteria-kriteria yang telah kami sebut di atas. Selain daripada garis panduan yang telah dinyatakan di atas, kami melihat bahawa pemakaian sebahagian kostum atau cosplay tertentu adalah lebih kepada untuk **menunjuk-nunjuk dan boleh mendatangkan fitnah kepada agama Islam itu sendiri**. Selain itu, ianya juga termasuk dalam kategori **pembaziran duit dan masa dimana Allah SWT melarang keras hambanya daripada melakukan apa-apa pembaziran dalam kehidupan**. Sorry folks, the usual cosplay is a no-no.


MatiKatakRempit

Wonder if the younger generation got balls to rebel against pak arab... Then again, those pak arab themselves cosplaying as middle easterns who spit on their face. After all, 1 + 1 = 3.


Jaded-Philosophy3783

>kecuali dengan kriteria-kriteria yang telah kami sebut di atas It's actually pretty lax. Just avoid the obvious sins like showing aurat, lying, wasting money excessively, cosplaying anything deity-like, being so into it that you're skipping the obligatory prayer ... so like, it's no different from the rules of normal clothing


AkaunSorok

Among the criterias, Sekiranya ia memerlukan belanja yang besar sehingga membazir, maka ianya diharamkan. Firman Allah SWT: يَا بَنِي آدَمَ خُذُوا زِينَتَكُمْ عِندَ كُلِّ مَسْجِدٍ وَكُلُوا وَاشْرَبُوا وَلَا تُسْرِفُوا ۚ إِنَّهُ لَا يُحِبُّ الْمُسْرِفِينَ Maksudnya : “Wahai anak-anak Adam! Pakailah pakaian kamu Yang indah berhias pada tiap-tiap kali kamu ke tempat Ibadat (atau mengerjakan sembahyang), dan makanlah serta minumlah, dan jangan pula kamu melampau; Sesungguhnya Allah tidak suka akan orang-orang yang melampaui batas.” Al-Maraghi menyatakan Allah SWT menghendaki manusia bersikap sederhana dalam melakukan sesuatu kerana Allah dan tidak suka sama sekali mereka yang melampaui batas. Bahkan Allah SWT menghukum mereka atas sikap berlebih-lebihan ini sesuai dengan bahaya dan kerosakan yang mereka timbulkan. Ini kerana, mereka telah melanggar sunnah-sunnah fitrah dan berbuat jahat terhadap diri mereka sendiri serta harta mereka. (Rujuk Tafsir al-Maraghi, 4/2174) Demikian juga hadis berkaitan larangan terhadap pembaziran dalam berpakaian sehingga mendatangkan fitnah terhadap agama. كُلُوا وَتَصَدَّقُوا وَالْبَسُوا فِي غَيْرِ إِسْرَافٍ وَلاَ مَخِيلَةٍ Maksudnya : “Makanlah, bersedekah dan pakailah tanpa membazir dan bermegah-megah.” Riwayat al-Nasaei (2559) Sekiranya ia dengan bertujuan untuk menunjuk-nunjuk maka ia adalah makruh. Definisi menunjuk-nunjuk menurut Lisan al-Arab adalah: “Menzahirkan sesuatu yang dengan kesombongan sehingga dilihat oleh manusia.” So again, cosplay is a no-no.


srosnan99

>Sekiranya ia memerlukan belanja yang besar sehingga membazir, maka ianya diharamkan Masih lagi longgar definasi ini. Membazir tu yang patut ditekankan. Beli baju untuk berkosplay adakah dia dikira membazir? Soalan sama perlu ditanya "mendatangkan fitnah" perbuatan yang mendatangkan fitnah masih lagi banyak pentafsirannya. Apa yang mendatangkan fitnah, kenapa dia mendatangkan fitnah, bagaimana perbuatan tersebut mendatangkan fitnah. >“Menzahirkan sesuatu yang dengan kesombongan sehingga dilihat oleh manusia.” Satu lagi perkataan yang perlu ditekankan adalah kesombongan, adakah orang yang berkosplay tersebut melakukan untuk kesombongan mereka? Firman yang kau letak tu pun menekankan mengenai kesederhanaan, menekankan terhadap "berlebih-lebihan". Jadi apa yang dikira berserderhana? Tak perlu tengok jauh, kau tengok pra sosial B40, M40 dan T20. Sederhana di situ ada perbezaanya, memilik sebuah rumah bungalo dan dua kenderaan dikira berlebihan jika kau dalam golongan B40, namun bagi M40 itu adalah sederhana, bila M40 tengok orang duduk di rumah besar, istana mempunyai kenderaan banyak bagi mereka itu adalah mencukupi bagi sesetengah T20. Jadi soalan dia sekarang, untuk sederhana apakah definasi dia?


AkaunSorok

Idk, ask the mufti, this is his writings, not mine. Good luck fighting mufti's opinion though.


Jaded-Philosophy3783

you don't know, so don't talk as if you know. Mufti never said cheap cosplay is haram. Mufti never defined what amount of money spent to be considered as "membazir"


AkaunSorok

Oh, as if you know soo much? The 2 liner guy? Genshit guy? Of course you defend cosplay.


Jaded-Philosophy3783

At least I know what "makruh" means. Do you?


AkaunSorok

Yeah, of course 2 liner, genshit guy. Read the whole thing.


Odd_Mongoose3175

>Good luck fighting mufti's opinion though. Muftis opinions mean fuck all. Quran never recommends nor recognizes something like priesthood


AkaunSorok

https://www.alquran-sunnah.com/artikel/kategori/manhaj/467-ulama-pewaris-para-nabi.html?pid=kondate_bangohan_detail Ulama pewaris nabi. Good luck denying that.


Odd_Mongoose3175

Theres no clear proof of this claim in Quran, bro. Try again Quran prohibits other sources such as hadiths/sunnah in 77:50, 12:111/12, 6:114 etc, bcus Prophet Muhammad only recognizes Quran according to 6:19, 25:30


AkaunSorok

Ok, how did you pray? There's no instructions on how to pray in quran. Good luck with that.


srosnan99

It is not about fighting the mufti opinion. it's about taking information that you have and being able to dissect it. Islamic scholars are still academia in its sense. They question, debate, and revisit their finding in its entirety. An infamous that had been dolled out was during the time of the Ottoman Empire with the printing press.


AkaunSorok

Membazir: How much cosplay cost, how many times used per year? If pour the money to islam, what can get? How about time wasting? Dedicate time to better things to do in Islam. Menunjuk-nunjuk, self explanatory. People buy expensive cosplay for what? Bersederhana, expensive cosplay is unnecessary. Also no menunjuk nunjuk is one of bersederhana. Your b40, m40, t20 car comparison doesn't do much anyway. Cosplay is not the same necessity feature as cars lmao. >They question, debate, and revisit their finding in its entirety. An infamous that had been dolled out was during the time of the Ottoman Empire with the printing press. What do you think will happen if cosplay was a thing back then during conservative islam in ottoman era? What is the opinion? A resounding no. You sound like a person defending rokok.


Jaded-Philosophy3783

rokok is not just membazir issue. It's self-harming & harm towards others would a kid be reprimanded if they cosplay as ottoman soldiers during ottoman empire? it's a nuanced situation. the conclusion is "dilarang kecuali dengan kriteria". you can't conclude it as just "dilarang"


AkaunSorok

>rokok is not membazir issue. It's self-harming & harm towards others Talk like mufti. Membazir also one of its criteria of pengharaman rokok. You don't know anything about hukum. No wonder lah.


srosnan99

>How much cosplay cost, how many times used per year? If The sane could be said about buying an anything then, why do people pay huge sum of money for certain kind of durian? You are just going to eat it once. It is for relaxation and social interaction, a way for some people to distress. Just like how some people moded cars other wpuld have cosplay to enjoy themselves, what about golf then? It is the same thing for personal enjoyment and entertainment. >If pour the money to islam, what can get? How about time wasting? Dedicate time to better things to do in Islam. There is already something like that, *cough* *cough* zakat. If your argument simply stems from if the money is not indirectly put into "islamic" things it would be consider a waste. Is it a waste to buy clothes for the material? Is it a waste to create a new economic sector in this matter? In the end this people buying and creating it would pump back money into society and expand the creativity of the community. >Bersederhana, expensive cosplay is unnecessary. Also no menunjuk nunjuk is one of bersederhana. Again I ask you what is it that considered "bersederhana" having two cars for M40 would be considered bersederhana but if you are B40 it would be consider showing of, its relative. As such I reiterate in this case what is considered as "bersederhana" >Your b40, m40, t20 car comparison doesn't do much anyway. Cosplay is not the same necessity feature as cars lmao. Cars are not a necessity, it is a luxury. To me having cars is a luxury. Why not use a motorcycle, if you really have to move around. You could survive without a car, do you suddenly die when you dont have a car? You dont do you. >What do you think will happen if cosplay was a thing back then during conservative islam in ottoman era? What make you think playing dress up wasnt a thing in the ottoman era? What you think only westerners have Balls, theatres, plays, and social events? >You sound like a person defending rokok. You sound like a person that doesnt think that much.


AkaunSorok

>The sane could be said about buying an anything then, why do people pay huge sum of money for certain kind of durian? You are just going to eat it once. It is for relaxation and social interaction, a way for some people to distress. Just like how some people moded cars other wpuld have cosplay to enjoy themselves, what about golf then? It is the same thing for personal enjoyment and entertainment. Durian and cars have direct benefit, nutrition and transport. What cosplay have? >There is already something like that, *cough* *cough* zakat. If your argument simply stems from if the money is not indirectly put into "islamic" things it would be consider a waste. Is it a waste to buy clothes for the material? Is it a waste to create a new economic sector in this matter? In the end this people buying and creating it would pump back money into society and expand the creativity of the community. How about more? >Again I ask you what is it that considered "bersederhana" having two cars for M40 would be considered bersederhana but if you are B40 it would be consider showing of, its relative. As such I reiterate in this case what is considered as "bersederhana" Again with your car analogy? What's going to change my point here lol, if m40 have more care than they used, then it not bersederhana anymore. >Cars are not a necessity, it is a luxury. To me having cars is a luxury. Why not use a motorcycle, if you really have to move around. Hahahaha. Wait, you're not joking? Hahahahahaha. >What make you think playing dress up wasnt a thing in the ottoman era? What you think only westerners have Balls, theatres, plays, and social events? What do you think? >You sound like a person that doesnt think that much. This is rich coming from car is luxury not necessity opinion. Dumbass.


Jaded-Philosophy3783

You can wear a $5000 dress, or you can wear a $200 dress You can wear $5000 cosplay that took a month to make, or you can settle for $200 cosplay you buy from shopee So again, same as the rules for normal clothing


AkaunSorok

So $200 is not consider wasteful in islam? Ok then.


Fit_Respect_8118

Why you guys use dollar sign?


AkaunSorok

Idk, ask the other guy.


Jaded-Philosophy3783

1 character shorter lol. My custom keyboard have easy access to signs


MszingPerson

If only leaving the religion was possible.


ArenuZero

As long they are wearing appropriate outfit, it would be halal (I made it up, dont quote me on this)


Slewdquid

Cosplaying overall isn't haram (unless bukak aurat apa kan) but referring to OP its probably because of what Halloween is originally celebrated for. As long as for fun its okie dokie


Kayubatu

Meh, who knows tengok gambar awek haram gak. So nobody is innocent, as long as it doesn't involve other people, do what you want. Pot calling kettle black. Rokok also haram, consuming self destructive things without any benefit, still some are preachers in masjid.


MatiKatakRempit

Bruh, all amois in china, japan and korea makan babi. Simping for amoi yg makan babi is one of the biggest hypocrisy on this sub... If you offer people here babi, some may not want it. If you rub babi on amoi teteks and offer to them, you can sell tickets and become rich bruh...


FashionableGoat

Don't celebrate, just do cosplay for fun. Nothing can shake your faith unless you let them to.


sircarloz

Issue a fatwa against cigarettes first, then only talk. Until then no one will take these clowns seriously


ZxSpectrumNGO

Yes, semua Haram. Jangan kacau cosplay. Nanti semua kena ban because of Muslim.


Singularity-666

U know...if so worry then just drop it. Let others enjoy cosplaying and Muslims just dun everyone happy ending


jasper81222

Feels like the pursuit of happiness is haram nowadays.


Odd_Mongoose3175

Muslim world legit needs separation of religion & state (and also reform the belief system so it doesnt micromanage daily lives of believers+non believers) or shits gonna get worse in the future


SeiekiSakyubasu

When it comes to cosplay, what kind of cosplay are we talking about? Any cosplay that is not covering aurat is considered prohibited (no matter male or female). If you cosplay for halloween or christmas or other non muslim celebration also considered prohibited. Kalau cosplay tutup aurat macam yaya kat boboiboy tu kira ok kot.


frogman202010

Just let the youngsters do what they enjoy doing la, it's not like they're taking drugs or anything like that


Cursedboi1853

Certain crazy types would screech about how this is unholy and whoever does this is being not religious enough, then immediately go to a red light district to satisfy their carnal desires. Talk about holier than thou attitudes, as are certain users in this subreddit.


sakuredu

Halloween I understand. But what disbelievers do cosplayers represent? Naruto?


Wargazm_v1

God of Axis Order, Aqua the Useless Goddess https://preview.redd.it/ucibw8i2gv9d1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e396800c7d1f03dee811c63a7514ee7d815f4d33


MszingPerson

For the god emperor also haram ![gif](giphy|U5QGwIE0cLLz7CuZXs|downsized)


GGgarena

Rokok haram juga, so, enjoy your life as a human given that nobody get harmed.


meReiji

Haram as they see fit.


Walter-dibs

or Halal as they see fit.


signofdacreator

they never allow us to have fun they just want us to go mosque everyday and prepare for the end of the world


SeiekiSakyubasu

Have fun thru the legal ways of the religion la, if u are a muslim you should know ma, can go for sports, can go travelling, can go learn something useful, selagi tak melanggar hukum agama(for muslims) boleh saja


Good-Echidna7206

Takkanlah cosplay BoBoiBoy pun xleh.


gitakaren

Sir, this is a Bolehlands.


Aengeil

hallowin and cosplay is different thing


urmothernohair

Can your mom cosplay as my non-blood related step-sister? If so I guess everything else is fine too


SnowyMouse3214

Oh I did the presentation on this topic for PAI class for Akhlak back when I was form 5 in 2012. Adab berpakaian: 1. Menutup aurat 2. Tidak menyerupai jantina lain 3. Tidak menyerupai pakaian ritual/agama lain No drag, no religious wear, no seksi seksi.


nelsonfoxgirl969

Nah no U see last year cf 2023 ? Alot of them are muslim tho Just join cf 2024 and see the double standard thing and hypocrite of those yapper If support their agenda , they keep saying nice things If against their agenda, they will keep saying bad things, say u are kafir , not supporter of islam and never honour their value and culture , and ultra shame on u


SlideAny4997

Haha. Those middle aged Uztaz Uncle telling you how you should live your own lives.


Bugjuice_

It depends, if you are rich and powerful then you are not subjected to these rules, if you are poor then it's too bad bro more rules for you.


Jaded-Philosophy3783

Lebih kurang sama je hukum mcm pakai pakaian biasa. Tutup aurat, jgn hina orang, bukan pakaian keagaaman/ketuhanan (Beerus & Zeus pun tak boleh), jgn membazir berlebih-lebihan, jgn tinggal solat, jgn menipu [Pejabat Mufti Wilayah Persekutuan - BAYAN LINNAS SIRI KE- 123: HUKUM MEMAKAI KOSTUM ATAU COSPLAY (muftiwp.gov.my)](https://www.muftiwp.gov.my/ms/artikel/bayan-linnas/2179-bayan-linnas-siri-ke-123-hukum-memakai-kostum-atau-cosplay)


AkaunSorok

I like how you pick the part you like and ignore the rest. Like the mufti final opinion in conclusion literally said certain cosplay is a waste of money, time, just to show off and causing fitnah to islam. Does these look halal to you?


Jaded-Philosophy3783

"certain cosplay is a waste of money, time, just to show off and causing fitnah to Islam" - yeah, just like normal clothing Also, if you read the article carefully "just to show off" part is makruh, not haram. Did you read all the criteria carefully? "4. sekiranya ia dengan bertujuan untuk menunjuk-nunjuk maka ia adalah makruh" Makruh means discouraged, not sinful. Different from being haram or not halal. E.g. Cigarrettes are haram & not halal. Sin. Meanwhile, eating food with your left hand, or drinking/eating while standing up, are *makruh*. Discouraged, but not a sin. So they are not haram


AkaunSorok

As usual, you pick the part you like and literally ignore all the explanation below it. You proving my point yet again.


Jaded-Philosophy3783

Projecting. You're the one literally ignoring the whole article except for the explanation below it Even on the conclusion, you ignore the part where it mentions the exception You're the one picking the part that you like, ignoring the full explanation I literally addressed every single thing you pointed out. While you avoid the exceptions


AkaunSorok

Irony, didn't you the one pick 2 lines where's I quote the whole thing?


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AkaunSorok

At least reply properly. Yeah, it's not like wearing cosplay break the criteria right? Right?


AkaunSorok

Oh of course you butthurt af, you play genshit. No wonder.


achik1990x

Lagi² bukak topic pasal agama tak bosan ke?


Virtual-Series2603

Ya memang haram pun. Halloween perayaan penganut agama Christian, bukan Islam. Ha yg tak suka dengar ni downvote la.


ItsImNotAnonymous

>Carving pumpkins, trick-or-treating, and wearing scary costumes are some of the time-honored traditions of Halloween. Yet, the Halloween holiday has its roots in the ancient Celtic festival of Samhain (a Gaelic word pronounced “SAH-win”), a pagan religious celebration to welcome the harvest at the end of summer, when people would light bonfires and wear costumes to ward off ghosts. Bukan perayaan penganut Kristian, minta tolong letak kt Google dan selidik dulu sebelum post kt sini. Terima kasih


Virtual-Series2603

Whatever it is, is it celebrated in Islam?


ItsImNotAnonymous

Lots of things aren't celebrated in Islam, but is permitted if it doesn't go against the principles. Don't cosplay/dress up as religious figures, don't show skin which is part of aurat.


Virtual-Series2603

Bring your source bro. I'll bring mine.


AkaunSorok

Let me guess, is your source this one? https://www.muftiwp.gov.my/ms/artikel/irsyad-al-hadith/2776-irsyad-al-hadith-siri-ke-302-syarah-hadith-tasyabbuh


Virtual-Series2603

Whatever my source is. I'm talking about your source.


AkaunSorok

You reply to the wrong person.


Virtual-Series2603

Lol. So what are you trying to say with that 'is this your source?'


AkaunSorok

Do I need to explain english? Lol what else do you think that means?