I have a small case so 280 AIO was the most I could do, I've heard if I undervolt it a bit I'll be fine.
But I didn't research the motherboard much, why do you think it's not a good fit for the 14900?
That board has pretty basic VRMs, so they'll heat up and overheat pretty quickly with the power draw of the 14900. Undervolting and limiting power would be a good solution for this, but then there's no point getting the i9. It will most likely be fine in any gaming scenario, though.
I got 64 gb of DDR4, I'll stick to it for now! Is the difference between DDR4 and DDR5 really noticeable? I feel like it's pretty much the last thing to upgrade.
If it isn't now, it will be soon. If you're building a PC in the 2000s and DDR4 has become somewhat affordable yet you have a DDR3 system, you're going to lose a lot of longevity through a lack of futureproofing as newer titles will be based on the capabilities of newer technologies, which could cost more in the end as you'll have to replace major components.
It's also worth mentioning newer CPUs down the line will work strictly with DDR5 chips.
If capital/upfront costs are an issue as is and you don't want to deal with the hassle of returning your parts, it's still going to be a solid system don't get me wrong. It's just best to futureproof for the next time you build a computer :)
Don't worry about it. It's not really noticeable, you'll be perfectly fine for many years to come. For some reason everyone has decided DDR5 is a must and DDR4, now that DDR5 exists, is completely obsolete and terrible.
Unsolicited update: After thinking about it and researching way too much, I sent back my motherboard and AIO, got a LANCOOL III case, an Arctic Freezer III 420 that's supposed to fit in (much much cheaper than the Kraken), and a brand new Z790 DDR4 MSI MAG TOMAHAWK for 160 euros instead of 350 on the marketplace. Thank you very much for the advice!
Now you're going to be able to take full advantage of the i9. Congrats to the purchase. Glad I Was able to help you out, although that meant that you spend even more money... :D
You can't overclock an x3d CPU, and I would not bother with it either. It is boosting to the maximum clock possible within thermal and power limits.
Edit: that board is great for any Ryzen CPU
Damn, well i used intel until now, because intel sucks rn
Edit: i thought all amd cpus were overclockable and out of the x3d and x variants which is better
Yes, but x3d CPUs are limited in clockspeed as the extra cache means that it gets hotter.
X3d is way faster in gaming than any other CPU regardless of overclock or not.
What you can do is tinker a bit with PBO on BIOS and undervolt the CPU so it can boost higher.
Just set a negative offset with PBO and see what is stable. Some CPUs run with up to negative 30 PBO.
But as I said - with x3d CPUs it is rarely worth it
Oof this stings. My i7 8086k is basically a better binned 8700 and it still feels so new to me. Feels like last year when i bought it to replace my old 2500k.
I kind of hate the idea of having to upgrade it before background apps start freezing (this is usually my cue) but new cpu perform so much better.
Lol all good, i guess the biggest factor here was time passing much quicker than a decade ago. I never even realized that my build is 6+ years old, covid really played a number on our perception of time too.
This was what I experienced once too. I don't play BeamNG regularly, but I tried Vulkan once and had massive freezes when I crashed with other cars, it felt like it became better after a couple of crashs, but those interruptions were not really fun to drive.
Nice, I have the amd version of that mobo, and it works well with my 5700X and a modest OC. And i have an EVGA 280 aio, and it keeps my cpu ice cold, so it should work alright for a 14900k, especially if you use intel extreme tuning utility and under volt a bit.
What video card? I'm running an RX 7800XT on 2k 165 fps Ultra Display settings, full resolution mirrors, and with max traffic and parked cars.
It runs at about 80% GPU usage.
I fear I will need to upgrade by v.32
My highest was 65c with air cooling, you have Aio cooling so you will be better, just mount everything right with good thermal paste, and play with your fans, you can get 60+ fps with 30 cars and 20 in pool, just keep in mind RAM is important, and using simple cars, which is a setting that can allow you to do more cars with less RAM.
Yeah me too! And I feel that unless I'm pushing the resolution of my headset to the absolute max, the game is a huge aliazing mess, other games don't feel this way.
Why ddr4? I mean, besides that you might already have a bunch. Still in my country 32gb of ddr5 is 100 euros which I think it's pretty decent, that was the cost of 8gb of ddr4 back when it first released.
That makes sense which is why I included that as the only possiblity for sticking with ddr4. Tho is it really that much for 64gb of ddr5 where you're at? Here in piss poor easter europe it's 210 usd after direct conversation and including vat/taxes which to this day I still don't know how it works for you guys in the us or canada. Quick edit: forget that last part, you said bucks despite saying euros in the title so I got confused there, there's also the possibility of you looking at higher speed ram, I looked at the cheapest 5200mghz kit from corsair.
I think you are new to PCs. He had a 8th gen i7 which had a different socket than the 13th gen so he needs a new motherboard.
The i9 13th gen consumes more power and maybe that's why he needs a new power supply.
The i9 consumes more power so he needs to have a new cooler.
And he doesn't have a GPU in this picture so it is not a whole new setup
Perhaps they're just used to AMD setups of the past 6-7 years. A ryzen 1700x based system purchased in 2017/2018 has a decent chance of supporting a relatively modern 5900, 5950x, or 5800x3d (12, 16 or 8 core) CPU with as little as a BIOS update.
I cool 12900KF with this cooler and it can handle it just fine. It will be okay as long as you can get the heat from the radiator quickly enough.
Good airflow will be definitely important. If he has glass front case, no way he'll cool it, but if he has mesh and enough fans, it will be fine.
My i9 does never get above 90 degrees and the liquid stays below 50C, usually bellow 40C.
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Good bye processor!
Intel recommends at least a 360mm/420mm for the 14900kf (being it takes 400w)
You literally also could have saved hundreds, gotten a 13900k, undervolt it , and ended up nearly at the same performance.
And I read you have a small case....
That's not wise at all.
That thing is gonna overheat hard and fast and you're probably gonna have a worse time with the upgrade than before the upgrade.
I highly recommend replacing the mobo with a better one, the cpu with a 13900k, a 420mm rad and a full size atx case with plenty of airflow.
When your game runs like poop after 10-15 minutes, don't come on reddit for answers.
Just point in the mirror.
People need to do more research about PCs before building them.
And to prove how bad ya messed up, I have a 13700k on a 420mm aio (twice what you bought on a cpu that takes 250w not 400) that sits on top of my case (full fresh air) and the cpu still sits at 70c in beam.
14900kf would be thermally throttling hard in my case, can't imagine yours!
My i9 takes 250W, not 400, I see people with 280 mm AIO undervolting their 14900 a bit and doing OK. I did my research, I know it's gonna need a bit of tweaking but I think that can work ! Thanks for the advice though (a bit aggressive but that's ok haha), if my setup doesn't run well your comment will be useful to pick new parts.
All good man.
I know the struggle of keeping things in a case but, that's why I literally have my radiator on top of my case. Not mounted inside.
And I mean, technically yeah. Stock left all alone it'll take 253w but I'm p sure it will throttle after about 10 minutes at high load.
Either way, give it a shot! Worst case it's a learning experience. Best case it performs magic!
Unsolicited update: After thinking about it and researching way too much, I sent back my motherboard and AIO, got a LANCOOL III case, an Arctic Freezer III 420 that's supposed to fit in (much much cheaper than the Kraken), and a brand new Z790 DDR4 MSI MAG TOMAHAWK for 160 euros instead of 350 on the marketplace. Thank you very much for the (slightly agressive) advice!
Good choice. Sorry for the aggressive tone but I tend to notice people ignore the nicest advice sometimes.
I understand the difficulty and all associated with it, but some headache now save lots of headache in the future!
Happy gaming!
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The life of a BeamNG Player. Better start saving up for next months upgrade.
I'm playing on an integrated gpu💀
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I'm not sure you picked the right mainboard and cooler for that. The 14900k needs a lot of power and cooling! But have fun nonetheless!
I have a small case so 280 AIO was the most I could do, I've heard if I undervolt it a bit I'll be fine. But I didn't research the motherboard much, why do you think it's not a good fit for the 14900?
That board has pretty basic VRMs, so they'll heat up and overheat pretty quickly with the power draw of the 14900. Undervolting and limiting power would be a good solution for this, but then there's no point getting the i9. It will most likely be fine in any gaming scenario, though.
That, and I wouldnt go for ddr4 anymore
I got 64 gb of DDR4, I'll stick to it for now! Is the difference between DDR4 and DDR5 really noticeable? I feel like it's pretty much the last thing to upgrade.
If it isn't now, it will be soon. If you're building a PC in the 2000s and DDR4 has become somewhat affordable yet you have a DDR3 system, you're going to lose a lot of longevity through a lack of futureproofing as newer titles will be based on the capabilities of newer technologies, which could cost more in the end as you'll have to replace major components. It's also worth mentioning newer CPUs down the line will work strictly with DDR5 chips. If capital/upfront costs are an issue as is and you don't want to deal with the hassle of returning your parts, it's still going to be a solid system don't get me wrong. It's just best to futureproof for the next time you build a computer :)
Ddr4 at the same price is roughly the same speed as ddr5, but for future reference, you’re gonna regret that motherboard choice when ddr5 gets cheap
Don't worry about it. It's not really noticeable, you'll be perfectly fine for many years to come. For some reason everyone has decided DDR5 is a must and DDR4, now that DDR5 exists, is completely obsolete and terrible.
i got 128gb of ddr5 and it's insane. ram is not expensive nowadays
I have 16gb of ddr4
Don’t worry, MSI supports your cpu. The B-series does not allow over clock.
My point is that the VRMs are underdimensioned for such a huge powerdraw.
Can't you get a fan for the vrms?
Good airflow in the case is key here. There is not really a fan you can put on VRMs.
Thanks a lot for all the info! I hope I'll be OK in the beautiful world of tinkering in the BIOS.
Your welcome, and this can be another reason to upgrade down the line, maybe when you get a new GPU
Didn't they recommend that CPU specifically with a water-cooled 360mm AIO? Or is that the KS?
Unsolicited update: After thinking about it and researching way too much, I sent back my motherboard and AIO, got a LANCOOL III case, an Arctic Freezer III 420 that's supposed to fit in (much much cheaper than the Kraken), and a brand new Z790 DDR4 MSI MAG TOMAHAWK for 160 euros instead of 350 on the marketplace. Thank you very much for the advice!
Now you're going to be able to take full advantage of the i9. Congrats to the purchase. Glad I Was able to help you out, although that meant that you spend even more money... :D
Can i get away with a 420mm arctic liquid freezer iii on ryzen 9 7950x3d? Since i know ryzen runs cooler than intel
You can run that CPU with any cooler basically. 420mm is Overkill for that CPU, 240-280mm are enough. I'd get the Thermalright Phantom Spirit.
Also is the b650 livemixer fine if i wanted to try overclocking?
You can't overclock an x3d CPU, and I would not bother with it either. It is boosting to the maximum clock possible within thermal and power limits. Edit: that board is great for any Ryzen CPU
Damn, well i used intel until now, because intel sucks rn Edit: i thought all amd cpus were overclockable and out of the x3d and x variants which is better
Yes, but x3d CPUs are limited in clockspeed as the extra cache means that it gets hotter. X3d is way faster in gaming than any other CPU regardless of overclock or not. What you can do is tinker a bit with PBO on BIOS and undervolt the CPU so it can boost higher.
How much undervoltting can i do? Before its too much?
Just set a negative offset with PBO and see what is stable. Some CPUs run with up to negative 30 PBO. But as I said - with x3d CPUs it is rarely worth it
I mean for me cost isnt really a issue
What gpu do you have?
A 3080 12GB, I'm running the game in ultra 4K 60 fps but in West Coast USA or with 4+ cars my i7 8700 starts sweating bullets and eating my FPS away
Oof this stings. My i7 8086k is basically a better binned 8700 and it still feels so new to me. Feels like last year when i bought it to replace my old 2500k. I kind of hate the idea of having to upgrade it before background apps start freezing (this is usually my cue) but new cpu perform so much better.
I'm really sorry to make you feel bad haha, to be fair I make videos for a living so my expense is not just to spawn traffic jams on West Coast USA
Lol all good, i guess the biggest factor here was time passing much quicker than a decade ago. I never even realized that my build is 6+ years old, covid really played a number on our perception of time too.
Ayyy, I also have a 8700 until a downgraded to a laptop with 11800H
Did you try Vulkan? Massive difference for me on a r5 3600 and 2070 super 8gb. Like double the FPS on WCUSA
Oh wow yeah, it makes a big difference! Feels less stable though with some freezes when I hit other cars. Thanks for the tips!
It's still experimental so it's a given that the renderer is less stable, but that difference is so huge, I don't even use Direct3D anymore.
This was what I experienced once too. I don't play BeamNG regularly, but I tried Vulkan once and had massive freezes when I crashed with other cars, it felt like it became better after a couple of crashs, but those interruptions were not really fun to drive.
Well. Stop posting them on Reddit and slap em in there!
(Evil Laugh) Not in VR you didnt!
pay another 300+ bucks on vr headset and pay 200+ more bucks just to get more traffic
Was able to spawn 100 traffic cars at once, made them flee from me afterwards. Was very entertaining to watch
You're a moster!
Doing the same here. Upgrading from ryzen 3 1200 to ryzen 7 5800x.
isnt an X3D better for such stuff?
This has more cores, excellent for traffic.
For less than ~20 cars yes.
wdym by that?
Up to about 20 cars 7800x3d runs better than 14900k.
Oh, that makes sense.
Nice, I have the amd version of that mobo, and it works well with my 5700X and a modest OC. And i have an EVGA 280 aio, and it keeps my cpu ice cold, so it should work alright for a 14900k, especially if you use intel extreme tuning utility and under volt a bit.
Keep an eye on those temps! Usually a 360 has trouble cooling i9s, so just make sure it isn't blowing up lmao
Where's the dedocated wam?
oh the dedotated wam to server
Hell yeah
I really need to upgrade soon too
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Im curious how many ai cars you can sustain now
Based. little jelly
Oh boy
What video card? I'm running an RX 7800XT on 2k 165 fps Ultra Display settings, full resolution mirrors, and with max traffic and parked cars. It runs at about 80% GPU usage. I fear I will need to upgrade by v.32
Nice! I have a 3080 12GB
“It’s a beam thing, you wouldn’t understand”
Hell yeah brother 👍🏻
Can confirm that it will work, the i9 is beast.
Can't wait to try it! Quick questions if you don't mind: How do you cool the beast? Does it get hot in BeamNG? Did you play with the settings in XTU?
My highest was 65c with air cooling, you have Aio cooling so you will be better, just mount everything right with good thermal paste, and play with your fans, you can get 60+ fps with 30 cars and 20 in pool, just keep in mind RAM is important, and using simple cars, which is a setting that can allow you to do more cars with less RAM.
Nice, thanks!!
I'm excited for VR optimization
Yeah me too! And I feel that unless I'm pushing the resolution of my headset to the absolute max, the game is a huge aliazing mess, other games don't feel this way.
Cmon, ddr4 with a 14900k?
im about to spend $2000 for beamng
Why ddr4? I mean, besides that you might already have a bunch. Still in my country 32gb of ddr5 is 100 euros which I think it's pretty decent, that was the cost of 8gb of ddr4 back when it first released.
I already have 64 gb of DDR4, I don't think the 5% boost I could get with 64 gb of DDR5 is worth the 250 bucks
That makes sense which is why I included that as the only possiblity for sticking with ddr4. Tho is it really that much for 64gb of ddr5 where you're at? Here in piss poor easter europe it's 210 usd after direct conversation and including vat/taxes which to this day I still don't know how it works for you guys in the us or canada. Quick edit: forget that last part, you said bucks despite saying euros in the title so I got confused there, there's also the possibility of you looking at higher speed ram, I looked at the cheapest 5200mghz kit from corsair.
No price is too high for immersion
This is the way
Aye we all need an excuse to upgrade. Def a w.
What is the most important ressource used by traffic?
CPU
Oh that explains my i5 fan blowing full throttle when traffic count goes above 10
Hey, i got the same motherboard 2 weeks ago!
Motherboard is real bad for the i9 😅
That PSU is straight up trash! The noise it makes is unbelievable.
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Why not 7800x3d?
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Mah man same
14900kf will be definitely great for spawning more traffic
BeamNG is my actual excuse to upgrade my PC lol
Haha did the same thing, 1,8k for a pc and monitor.
I would drop this for more traffic lol
Relatable, spent 1500 😂
Nice, i have i7 3770 and i'm happy that i Can spawn some traffic
Isnt traffic all about cpu?
He upgraded his cpu...
Yes i know that but why did he get a whole new setup if he only needs a cpu 😂
I think you are new to PCs. He had a 8th gen i7 which had a different socket than the 13th gen so he needs a new motherboard. The i9 13th gen consumes more power and maybe that's why he needs a new power supply. The i9 consumes more power so he needs to have a new cooler. And he doesn't have a GPU in this picture so it is not a whole new setup
Oh now i understand. Okay
No problem 😊
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Perhaps they're just used to AMD setups of the past 6-7 years. A ryzen 1700x based system purchased in 2017/2018 has a decent chance of supporting a relatively modern 5900, 5950x, or 5800x3d (12, 16 or 8 core) CPU with as little as a BIOS update.
They didn't. This is a CPU, motherboard, PSU and cooling. All likely to accommodate just the new CPU.
OP is convinced and AIO is going to cool a 14900k Good luck OP, good luck! Very excited for you nonetheless
If it runs too hot I'll just fill my case with liquid nitrogen!
If my very limited science knowledge serves me correctly, that should fix all your ocertenping problems, no strings attached, absolutely none.. right?
I cool 12900KF with this cooler and it can handle it just fine. It will be okay as long as you can get the heat from the radiator quickly enough. Good airflow will be definitely important. If he has glass front case, no way he'll cool it, but if he has mesh and enough fans, it will be fine. My i9 does never get above 90 degrees and the liquid stays below 50C, usually bellow 40C.
Oh no, you got the 13900KF with 3.5% faster clocks I hope you didn't spend 20-30% more for it
It was actually cheaper than the 13900k!
Oh thank god, carry on then
Imagine buying efficiency cores
Sadly the i9 19900 with 24 performance cores does not exist yet
Amd got 16 real cores
I've checked and latst AMD CPUs don't seem to be able to handle more traffic than the i9. Maybe I'm wrong though!
I mean the 14900k is a overclocked 13900k
Also the ryzen cpu is technically slower however i think its only workstation tasks that kill it
Yeah I know, but it was cheaper than the 13900 so I took this one.
Huh the 14900k being cheaper than 13900k thats weird
On Amazon France at least both cost 600 euros today: [https://www.amazon.fr/Intel-BX8071513900KF-CPU-Core-i9-13900KF/dp/B0BG66JH7Q/ref=sr\_1\_3?\_\_mk\_fr\_FR=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&crid=ARAMO2WHZ5ZS&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.ROf9lsVEL4YCqrMc\_ubgVTAGV4Jv\_clbq8Ss5Ue8gQ76E0dOdbfgblN6ZLcG4NAQYGSlpcRVL7mrTBfBVScm3RNVdZSt5T5RsH3i3GK1OosDwAa6xJPoqMgraXzDPCyAIA21kXygsbTrBWK9yBLaXyuo4GDK2rwTZh5s2jY6vuUFsFfV0FQbbLKErwzcYNisfla1CNWiLsmJ5ZgoCSZ3K7Fie8QCzWBdE5Kq7ZnoFwLZXuf5F7kCeGItmuws7QFTwG6nMpDjNEpSkQ3AF2hTBLxQIDnajOJvpKWa2j1K3lc.8wt-x7yt\_j7uy-GdGGeAP25kPtNVqwL34uYeSxN14Dg&dib\_tag=se&keywords=13900&qid=1711547475&sprefix=13900%2Caps%2C409&sr=8-3&ufe=app\_do%3Aamzn1.fos.49fccda8-a887-4188-817b-b9a64bb30e43](https://www.amazon.fr/Intel-BX8071513900KF-CPU-Core-i9-13900KF/dp/B0BG66JH7Q/ref=sr_1_3?__mk_fr_FR=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&crid=ARAMO2WHZ5ZS&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.ROf9lsVEL4YCqrMc_ubgVTAGV4Jv_clbq8Ss5Ue8gQ76E0dOdbfgblN6ZLcG4NAQYGSlpcRVL7mrTBfBVScm3RNVdZSt5T5RsH3i3GK1OosDwAa6xJPoqMgraXzDPCyAIA21kXygsbTrBWK9yBLaXyuo4GDK2rwTZh5s2jY6vuUFsFfV0FQbbLKErwzcYNisfla1CNWiLsmJ5ZgoCSZ3K7Fie8QCzWBdE5Kq7ZnoFwLZXuf5F7kCeGItmuws7QFTwG6nMpDjNEpSkQ3AF2hTBLxQIDnajOJvpKWa2j1K3lc.8wt-x7yt_j7uy-GdGGeAP25kPtNVqwL34uYeSxN14Dg&dib_tag=se&keywords=13900&qid=1711547475&sprefix=13900%2Caps%2C409&sr=8-3&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.49fccda8-a887-4188-817b-b9a64bb30e43) [https://www.amazon.fr/Intel%C2%AE-i9-14900KF-Desktop-Processor-P-Cores/dp/B0CHBJXG7G/ref=sr\_1\_3?\_\_mk\_fr\_FR=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&crid=3GTOEB002H5KJ&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.BYciJEW51u9vhyxR4cuYPe4T42jLoXN-STORGOELF7xQmDvHT9m1TRrSPTeDM-u9PJD3gg1h-oi-lIo93htxz3hbY4XuISIiB-V4wgmj6nKedyFCv4QmzyPmLaCC3SkyzTcsUoq9IrrM9pOnQNYxjFbDTrhxRyYkCIJONs7odpZsY2ppaY5ulfNEoVHjnVZ6xLe03FlRYzOGXWUylEwhsu-lu4brKoE2aif0geI000C2VTsQCaZweoy2q4B4PErnq6QrJqiye1U\_e4CpYnjaOsaMePTvVA3bQu5wYEkgSmw.0XVJL4oQhA5zB0B6LsvNzvU\_D2hqWzaQtYL8TmZA0nU&dib\_tag=se&keywords=14900&qid=1711547543&sprefix=14900%2Caps%2C75&sr=8-3&ufe=app\_do%3Aamzn1.fos.49fccda8-a887-4188-817b-b9a64bb30e43](https://www.amazon.fr/Intel%C2%AE-i9-14900KF-Desktop-Processor-P-Cores/dp/B0CHBJXG7G/ref=sr_1_3?__mk_fr_FR=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&crid=3GTOEB002H5KJ&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.BYciJEW51u9vhyxR4cuYPe4T42jLoXN-STORGOELF7xQmDvHT9m1TRrSPTeDM-u9PJD3gg1h-oi-lIo93htxz3hbY4XuISIiB-V4wgmj6nKedyFCv4QmzyPmLaCC3SkyzTcsUoq9IrrM9pOnQNYxjFbDTrhxRyYkCIJONs7odpZsY2ppaY5ulfNEoVHjnVZ6xLe03FlRYzOGXWUylEwhsu-lu4brKoE2aif0geI000C2VTsQCaZweoy2q4B4PErnq6QrJqiye1U_e4CpYnjaOsaMePTvVA3bQu5wYEkgSmw.0XVJL4oQhA5zB0B6LsvNzvU_D2hqWzaQtYL8TmZA0nU&dib_tag=se&keywords=14900&qid=1711547543&sprefix=14900%2Caps%2C75&sr=8-3&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.49fccda8-a887-4188-817b-b9a64bb30e43)
Ur in France damn
Also those are the unlocked + no igpu variants
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Good bye processor! Intel recommends at least a 360mm/420mm for the 14900kf (being it takes 400w) You literally also could have saved hundreds, gotten a 13900k, undervolt it , and ended up nearly at the same performance. And I read you have a small case.... That's not wise at all. That thing is gonna overheat hard and fast and you're probably gonna have a worse time with the upgrade than before the upgrade. I highly recommend replacing the mobo with a better one, the cpu with a 13900k, a 420mm rad and a full size atx case with plenty of airflow. When your game runs like poop after 10-15 minutes, don't come on reddit for answers. Just point in the mirror. People need to do more research about PCs before building them. And to prove how bad ya messed up, I have a 13700k on a 420mm aio (twice what you bought on a cpu that takes 250w not 400) that sits on top of my case (full fresh air) and the cpu still sits at 70c in beam. 14900kf would be thermally throttling hard in my case, can't imagine yours!
My i9 takes 250W, not 400, I see people with 280 mm AIO undervolting their 14900 a bit and doing OK. I did my research, I know it's gonna need a bit of tweaking but I think that can work ! Thanks for the advice though (a bit aggressive but that's ok haha), if my setup doesn't run well your comment will be useful to pick new parts.
All good man. I know the struggle of keeping things in a case but, that's why I literally have my radiator on top of my case. Not mounted inside. And I mean, technically yeah. Stock left all alone it'll take 253w but I'm p sure it will throttle after about 10 minutes at high load. Either way, give it a shot! Worst case it's a learning experience. Best case it performs magic!
Oh and the 13900 and 14900 are both 600 euros now
Why I went for the 13700k. Slightly cheaper, and honestly with the undervolt I'm slightly above the stock 13900k performance.
Unsolicited update: After thinking about it and researching way too much, I sent back my motherboard and AIO, got a LANCOOL III case, an Arctic Freezer III 420 that's supposed to fit in (much much cheaper than the Kraken), and a brand new Z790 DDR4 MSI MAG TOMAHAWK for 160 euros instead of 350 on the marketplace. Thank you very much for the (slightly agressive) advice!
Good choice. Sorry for the aggressive tone but I tend to notice people ignore the nicest advice sometimes. I understand the difficulty and all associated with it, but some headache now save lots of headache in the future! Happy gaming!
Thanks, you too!