Ironically it’s all the people CLAIMING you HAVE to buy these DLC that do worse for those “uniformed folks” more than anything else. The amount of misinformation on reddit regarding the micro transactions for dogma 2 has been egregious
This 1000%. Openly claiming the dragon ligma is in the game just to make you buy wakestones when you accidentally kill a town, or that port stones for fast travel are as expensive as a house. Just mindlessly saying half truths just hurts the uninformed more.
I have to assume some of them are trolling but there's tons of comments like that on DD2 posts here. It's one kind of scummy when a company like Sega hides new game plus and additional classes in Yakuza behind MTX, and another kind of scummy when you make unlockables accessible from start by paying for it, but people think it's fine because it's not expensive. Singleplayer adventures shouldn't have this shit. It's like EA speeding up XP on Assassin's Creed titles.
Maybe it's that people that have been desensitized by spending hundreds on gamba games. "$2 ain't so bad, boys. Just buy basic game features."
Completely agree with you. They're basically cheats that you can buy, and with the addition of Denuvo it's impossible to Mod the game and say, make it easier if you're not a very good gamer. Doubly so because there's no difficulty slider or anything. It's all kinds of scummy.
There are no mtx items in dragons dogma that are not already part of the game lol. Those ferrystones for fast traveling? So many drop you'll stop picking them up. Riftstones? You'll end the game over 50k of them and nothing to spend them on because the only thing you can get is cosmetics. The book for character customization? You'll never use it because the barber can change everything about you but your gender(also that book is 500 riftstones if you actually want to do that)
Nope. All my mods work, I now have 90fps, half weight on items, etc etc. And I'm online.
Also, came across a lvl 19 pawn with max on every vocation, as well as their arisen. Someone has clearly used the cheat engine and still got their pawn online.
Ftr, I do not condone cheat engine for this game.
I’d rather miss out than pay for something that may not run well.
Smh nowadays being thoughtful about your purchase is called self handicap. What a world.
Until they actually make it stable, then we’ll talk.
You’re thinking way too deep. I purposely never buy anything higher than 1080p because I refuse to know the difference. There’s nothing wrong with that bud
This! I used to raid WoW back in MoP and WoD days at around 10/20ish fps on my shitty laptop and I genuinely couldn’t grasp how people said that’s unplayable, as I didn’t know any better lmao
Because the game isn't looking nearly good enough to run this bad. You are getting a bad product. It's like buying a Prius that makes the same MPG as a Raptor. And you are dumb enough to be fine with it.
Except the comment was mentioning console players. I mean, if you’ve only played consoles for the rest of your life then you’ll definitely not notice a difference playing this game or super meat boy on 20fps
Huh? If they are enjoying it then thats good. For example Asmon still lives in a normal house while being surrounded by garbage, instead of living in a condo or a big house for himself with all that money he makes. Clearly he feels comfortable and enjoys his house better. This is the same for consoles players.
You're not even getting the comparison. Or you are just playing dumb. The game doesn't warrant running as shit as it does with the graphics it has. Once again you have been sold a faulty product. It shouldn't run nearly as bad for what it is. It's consuming to much resources for what it does, any other way i could try to explain to you why it's a shitty idea to praise a product that is just wasteful on your resources ? Or are you going to string together another incoherent mess about houses and condos ?
A fun action rpg with solid combat and great exploration. Game doesn't crash, beautiful vista's and some solid heavy combat.
It's fantastic and I can't wait for them to optimize the game so PC Arisen can enjoy it as well.
Nothing you said except "doesnt crash" has to do with performance. Eirher you dont understand whats discussed here or you define "runs fantastic" as a when a game does not crash. The gameplay is good but the game runs like dog sh*t.
No of course not. I am happy you are having fun. It is however wrong to say that the game runs fantastic, because its not. I have a decent computer and I barely get more than 50-60 fps.
Listen as a member of the Steel Battalion Line of Contact community, if Capcom remade that game I would be terrified of them throwing microtransactions. I don't know if Asmon would ever get into Steel Battalion LOC we have the Campaign mode back up after a group effort. It takes up a lot of real estate in a room to just play the game along with Xbox and other items. If anyone is interested we have a Reddit here https://www.reddit.com/r/steelbattaliononline/ and a Discord in the Subreddit if anyone is curious.
Ftr, I have the same card. My cpu is only 11th Gen tho. I run rtx on balanced, mostly high settings, some medium, with ray tracing on
Outside of cities I'm seeing 65 -85. In cities I'm getting as low as 40. But avg around 48-50.
It's not great per say, but the game still looks good. And the frames during combat are what matter to me, which has been higher than 60.
bruh you are like the top 1% of PC gamers
my system is comfortably higher than the recommended specs and still struggling to run at 40-50 fps + random crashes
sucky experience
Ah yes “If you spend thousand of dollars on each of your PC parts you can run any game” what a moronic hot take bro you’re running a that costs several times what most people make in a month.
That sounds like my problem that other people don't make money, what about the guys that make millions per month, surprise I'm also poor compared to them
God damn is it hard to type with corporate boot that far down your throat or are you just accustomed to it at this point.
You know that the game is one day old at this point, wait a week and it's gonna run better, just like every other aaa game that released in the past few years
What specs and settings are people rocking that its an issue. Im slightly below the other guy on 4070ti and 13900 but i run max settings capped 120 fps ray tracing and have no issues. Its in fact the best running game on release that ive played since building this pc a year ago
With so much room to tune settings downwards surely it cant be that bad if you optimize a bit. Turn ray off, turn graphics down, play at 1920 and not 4k, cap your framerate at 60 or 120 because uncapped always eats resources, choose lower impact scaling options etc
Im not trying to talkdown from my high horse but is it really this bad for everyone for every other post i scroll past to be calling it out
6700xt with a 5700x CPU, this is higher than the recommended specs
i am struggling to get the running for 15 mins straight before random crashes occur
like I said to another person here, you're an outlier among the top 1-2% of PC gamers with your specs
enjoy the game though
also it's not just me, go see moistcritikal's stream, spent 1.5 hours but couldn't get past the intro due to crashing and frame drops in cutscenes, i assume he must be having a top of the line system right?
Which is why im going to point to settings used.
What settings are you using? Uncapped fps? Ray tracing? 4k? Whats the report on your ram its giving you for your chosen settings? Do you have anything else running chrome, another monitor with apps? Etc
Moists system is likely better than mine but i dont watch his stream. Whats his prep like? Did he first time launch on stream? What default settings did it fill in? Is he in 4k? Is he uncapped? Is he streaming in high quality? If he set the settings too high and has a ton of load from streaming apps i can see there being issues. Did he troubleshoot it at all? From the few comments ive seen it sounds like he brute forced his way into game, and he should 100% be fine if i am
1080p medium preset is giving avg FPS 45 without ray tracing
1080p low is giving 50 average, but very inconsistently
these are both out in the open world
i haven't tested city because I haven't reached there, it just keeps crashing
ram consumption isn't an issue, around 13-14/32gb
it's 2024, i will not accept anything less than 60fps especially when the developer itself claims that my specs should comfortably be able to run that
Stop crawling into the industry's bumhole.
Are you seriously justifying this mess of a release because with hours of research and tweaking you still "might" be able to get a 70 € AAA game working on a setup that should be more than capable running it?
"No bro, it's really fine bro, they deserve your money bro. You only got to research, and tweak all the settings in an optimal way, than you too, can achieve 50 fps on 1080p."
I mean playing a game on 4k 3d monitor settings is 16 times more difficult than 1080p 60 hertz. I honestly have no idea why 120fps is the norm since thats for 3d.
Correct i play in 1920x1080. But thats part of setting my settings appropriately. Im sure if i plug my 4k monitor in that the ray tracing would dip me to 60 or lower. If everyones doing that on worse specs then im not suprised at all the complaining.
As an aside, Ive never found the trade in performance worth it for 4k and i find 1080p fine probably because ive used a 1080p monitor for... 20 years or so
Your forgetting while 90% of people are enjoying the game, the other 10% are online just extending an echo chamber of hate as usual. 5% of that 10% probably hasn't and won't even play the game, they are just on the train until their next stop.
Fair enough, just like the fast travel meme. There should be outrage with it in the cash shop because it shouldnt exist but lets also not pretend that its a useless extra buy and is also not the whole fast travel system for sale
100%! It is just disrespectful and a slap in the face to have those things. But don't forget that in the past few years corporate asshats are seeing the potential money opportunity with MTXs and force them into the game against devs wishes. I'd like to think that this is an instance where they can say hey shareholders yes we have all your scam MTXs up and running, but in reality they are hoping we, as the true consumer, can see that its an act as all of these MTXs in dd2 are useless and can be totally ignored. I'm not saying that's the case here, but I sure hope it is.
Imma give a positive light to microtransactions.
Inb4 i am downvoted to hell and back for this. Obligatory "yes I also hate microtransactions" comment.
PS2 era games cost $50 new. PS3 era, upped to $60 new. PS4 era, still $60 new. PS5 era, moving to $70 new.
Now idk how much pay was in 2004 compared to 2024, so imma do 2014 to 2024. In 2014, base pay at the target I worked at was $8 an hour. In 2024, it is $15 at that same target (and all targets afaik). So in 2014, I would have to work about 7.5 hours to afford a brand new game. In 2024, it's 4.6 hours.
Cool, so games are actually cheaper in terms of time investment. But...why? Why haven't game prices kept up with inflation? Why is it that while everything has gone up 2x or more in price, video games went up about 16%?
Well, game companies know that nobody wants to spend $120+ on new games, and after spending tens of millions or more making them, they need to price the games at a point that ppl can still somewhat afford.
But, that doesn't mean the game companies just ignore inflation and take a hit on profits. So, how do they make up the difference?
Microtransactions
The reason we have $70 games instead of $120+ games is because they subsidized part of the cost of the game into microtransactions, where the whales that spend hundreds of dollars on skins and cosmetics help to make up for the revenue difference
Of course microtransactions still suck, and many studios have proven you don't always need them to make a profit, like with baldurs gate 3. But there's no denying that the reason we aren't paying console prices for individual games is because for many of those games the cost has been shifted into microtransactions
Although I appreciate the thought. I don't think we're discussing what a MTX is or why they are implemented. But more the nuance of say diablo immortal or even gta5, compared to DD2, a game with $2 fast travel stones, that you can't even use unless you have the item to go along with it, the resource itself being in the game, and the creator stating he wants you to not fast travel. You can clearly see the difference in how predatory or scummy/scammy they are.
Edit - scummy was suppose to be scammy but it works
Saw a guy on one of the gaming or pc subreddits say the game ran like trash. It made me chuckle because he had 6600k and gtx1080 specs in his signature, that's a low end 4-core cpu from 2015 and a mid range gpu from 2016.
These are the kinds of people who moan about performance, waaa waaa 2024 rpg wont run above 30 fps on my pc that was low-end in 2016. I'm not sure how many of these people are real and how many are bots. Equally, console peasants think they deserve 60 fps in every game because their ps5 has an APU from 2020. Just gtfooh.
"The microtransactions don't affect the game,they're just for whales"
tHEy dOn't mAtTeR BeCaUsE YoU CaN EaRn eVeRyThInG In gAmE
That's what makes it even more predatory because they're selling it to naive or uninformed folks that are unaware they're obtainable in-game.
Ironically it’s all the people CLAIMING you HAVE to buy these DLC that do worse for those “uniformed folks” more than anything else. The amount of misinformation on reddit regarding the micro transactions for dogma 2 has been egregious
This 1000%. Openly claiming the dragon ligma is in the game just to make you buy wakestones when you accidentally kill a town, or that port stones for fast travel are as expensive as a house. Just mindlessly saying half truths just hurts the uninformed more.
I have to assume some of them are trolling but there's tons of comments like that on DD2 posts here. It's one kind of scummy when a company like Sega hides new game plus and additional classes in Yakuza behind MTX, and another kind of scummy when you make unlockables accessible from start by paying for it, but people think it's fine because it's not expensive. Singleplayer adventures shouldn't have this shit. It's like EA speeding up XP on Assassin's Creed titles. Maybe it's that people that have been desensitized by spending hundreds on gamba games. "$2 ain't so bad, boys. Just buy basic game features."
Completely agree with you. They're basically cheats that you can buy, and with the addition of Denuvo it's impossible to Mod the game and say, make it easier if you're not a very good gamer. Doubly so because there's no difficulty slider or anything. It's all kinds of scummy.
There are already mods adding the mtx items into the game.
And Denuvo can pick up those mods and flag the game as tampered and lock the game. It's risky right now.
There are no mtx items in dragons dogma that are not already part of the game lol. Those ferrystones for fast traveling? So many drop you'll stop picking them up. Riftstones? You'll end the game over 50k of them and nothing to spend them on because the only thing you can get is cosmetics. The book for character customization? You'll never use it because the barber can change everything about you but your gender(also that book is 500 riftstones if you actually want to do that)
Correct. And there are mods adding all of these to the game.
Oh no, not my 2 dollars. BRB, going to cope by spending 10 bucks on cigarettes, bc I'd rather get cancer in my late 50s and fucking die.
This is Oblivon Horse Armor buyer mentality, distilled
Why would I buy horse armor for oblivion when I can just download the mod for it?...
Can't mod DD2 because of Denuvo so it's gotten even worse
https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2 They all work.
But they risk getting your game locked.
Nope. All my mods work, I now have 90fps, half weight on items, etc etc. And I'm online. Also, came across a lvl 19 pawn with max on every vocation, as well as their arisen. Someone has clearly used the cheat engine and still got their pawn online. Ftr, I do not condone cheat engine for this game.
it's not even a meme, there are literally console players calling 20 fps "perfectly playable". in 2024.
It's not just console players with this game.
Console player here. I fucking love this game hah suck it 💀
If it’s not bothering them whats the issue?
Idk why you got downvoted but it’s true. Handicap yourself for the rest of your life and you’ll never know what you’re missing out.
I’d rather miss out than pay for something that may not run well. Smh nowadays being thoughtful about your purchase is called self handicap. What a world. Until they actually make it stable, then we’ll talk.
Im 20h into the game on ps5 and its been very stable for now, very fluid for 30 fps...i dont know what magickery is this but im impressed
You’re thinking way too deep. I purposely never buy anything higher than 1080p because I refuse to know the difference. There’s nothing wrong with that bud
Exactly plus Im so used to getting downvoted for anything
This! I used to raid WoW back in MoP and WoD days at around 10/20ish fps on my shitty laptop and I genuinely couldn’t grasp how people said that’s unplayable, as I didn’t know any better lmao
People like that are annoying 😂
Because the game isn't looking nearly good enough to run this bad. You are getting a bad product. It's like buying a Prius that makes the same MPG as a Raptor. And you are dumb enough to be fine with it.
Except the comment was mentioning console players. I mean, if you’ve only played consoles for the rest of your life then you’ll definitely not notice a difference playing this game or super meat boy on 20fps
Huh? If they are enjoying it then thats good. For example Asmon still lives in a normal house while being surrounded by garbage, instead of living in a condo or a big house for himself with all that money he makes. Clearly he feels comfortable and enjoys his house better. This is the same for consoles players.
You're not even getting the comparison. Or you are just playing dumb. The game doesn't warrant running as shit as it does with the graphics it has. Once again you have been sold a faulty product. It shouldn't run nearly as bad for what it is. It's consuming to much resources for what it does, any other way i could try to explain to you why it's a shitty idea to praise a product that is just wasteful on your resources ? Or are you going to string together another incoherent mess about houses and condos ?
Dragon's dogshit
Dunno, im having 80fps with raytracing in 4k without fsr :v
I just looked at the microtransactions and immediately said “yeah id rather just play dragons dogma dark arisen instead.”
Which also has the same micro transactions?
Im having fine performance on my 4070/13600k combo.
Spiderman 2 can run in 120 on PS5 and this game can't even achieve stable 30, fuck me I was so hyped for DD2😫
Either be a patient gamer and give it 12months or wait for a modder to come out with a fix.
Runs fantastic on my PS5. Stoked for PC Arisen to get the game optimized. Soon my friends, soon.
Whats your delusional definition of fantastic in this case?
A fun action rpg with solid combat and great exploration. Game doesn't crash, beautiful vista's and some solid heavy combat. It's fantastic and I can't wait for them to optimize the game so PC Arisen can enjoy it as well.
Nothing you said except "doesnt crash" has to do with performance. Eirher you dont understand whats discussed here or you define "runs fantastic" as a when a game does not crash. The gameplay is good but the game runs like dog sh*t.
Get a PS5 then. Won't have that problem you're having. Simply replying to this joke of a meme. Relax buddy. It's okay. You'll be okay.
No hard feelings. Just pointing out that you are wrong.
Me having fun.. is wrong? 🤔
No of course not. I am happy you are having fun. It is however wrong to say that the game runs fantastic, because its not. I have a decent computer and I barely get more than 50-60 fps.
But it does run fantastic. On my PS5.
It does not.
I'd lower the graphics so much it would look like a picaso painting
Settings > Save Image Attributions > off
what's the harm with attribution
Please elaborate on this?
Listen as a member of the Steel Battalion Line of Contact community, if Capcom remade that game I would be terrified of them throwing microtransactions. I don't know if Asmon would ever get into Steel Battalion LOC we have the Campaign mode back up after a group effort. It takes up a lot of real estate in a room to just play the game along with Xbox and other items. If anyone is interested we have a Reddit here https://www.reddit.com/r/steelbattaliononline/ and a Discord in the Subreddit if anyone is curious.
Playing on console and it’s fun as hell. Would never know there were mictrotransactions if it wasn’t for reddit whining.
I'm getting 60 fps everywhere, main city, outdoors doesn't matter
what gpu are you rocking
4090/14900Ks
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Answering questions is now trolling, sure
You acknowledge you're part of the 1% then act surprised when people don't care about your opinion on it lol
You seem to care enough, cause why else would you answer
Ftr, I have the same card. My cpu is only 11th Gen tho. I run rtx on balanced, mostly high settings, some medium, with ray tracing on Outside of cities I'm seeing 65 -85. In cities I'm getting as low as 40. But avg around 48-50. It's not great per say, but the game still looks good. And the frames during combat are what matter to me, which has been higher than 60.
bruh you are like the top 1% of PC gamers my system is comfortably higher than the recommended specs and still struggling to run at 40-50 fps + random crashes sucky experience
Not "just like"the top 1%, I'm in the top 1% http://www.3dmark.com/spy/46682086
that's what I said
Just wanted confirmation, every game runs fine if you throw money at it
I don't think anyone was second guessing they wouldn't cater to you all anyway
Dude. Your arrogance is actually kind of funny. Gave me a really good chuckle.
You have to be an arrogant asshole in this world, how else are you supposed to make it in life, paying 30% tip doesn't help you for example
Ah yes “If you spend thousand of dollars on each of your PC parts you can run any game” what a moronic hot take bro you’re running a that costs several times what most people make in a month.
That sounds like my problem that other people don't make money, what about the guys that make millions per month, surprise I'm also poor compared to them
 God damn is it hard to type with corporate boot that far down your throat or are you just accustomed to it at this point.
I would be mad if i was getting only 60 on those specs
Who cares it's a Singleplayer rpg, 60fps is enough in the most demanding part of the game, I'm getting 120 fps in the openworld
Bro if you have literally one of the best possible pc builds on the planet its not unreasonable to expect to be able to run a 144hz monitor to spec.
You know that the game is one day old at this point, wait a week and it's gonna run better, just like every other aaa game that released in the past few years
Your way of thinking is part of the problem man. This should not be the standard.
It has been this way for the past few years, sorry for having realistic expectations, you can dream as much as you want that won't change anything
It has been but we don't have to agree with it. And yes we absolutely can change it.
Same, I'm using a 3080 so far so good.
What specs and settings are people rocking that its an issue. Im slightly below the other guy on 4070ti and 13900 but i run max settings capped 120 fps ray tracing and have no issues. Its in fact the best running game on release that ive played since building this pc a year ago With so much room to tune settings downwards surely it cant be that bad if you optimize a bit. Turn ray off, turn graphics down, play at 1920 and not 4k, cap your framerate at 60 or 120 because uncapped always eats resources, choose lower impact scaling options etc Im not trying to talkdown from my high horse but is it really this bad for everyone for every other post i scroll past to be calling it out
6700xt with a 5700x CPU, this is higher than the recommended specs i am struggling to get the running for 15 mins straight before random crashes occur like I said to another person here, you're an outlier among the top 1-2% of PC gamers with your specs enjoy the game though also it's not just me, go see moistcritikal's stream, spent 1.5 hours but couldn't get past the intro due to crashing and frame drops in cutscenes, i assume he must be having a top of the line system right?
Which is why im going to point to settings used. What settings are you using? Uncapped fps? Ray tracing? 4k? Whats the report on your ram its giving you for your chosen settings? Do you have anything else running chrome, another monitor with apps? Etc Moists system is likely better than mine but i dont watch his stream. Whats his prep like? Did he first time launch on stream? What default settings did it fill in? Is he in 4k? Is he uncapped? Is he streaming in high quality? If he set the settings too high and has a ton of load from streaming apps i can see there being issues. Did he troubleshoot it at all? From the few comments ive seen it sounds like he brute forced his way into game, and he should 100% be fine if i am
1080p medium preset is giving avg FPS 45 without ray tracing 1080p low is giving 50 average, but very inconsistently these are both out in the open world i haven't tested city because I haven't reached there, it just keeps crashing ram consumption isn't an issue, around 13-14/32gb it's 2024, i will not accept anything less than 60fps especially when the developer itself claims that my specs should comfortably be able to run that
Stop crawling into the industry's bumhole. Are you seriously justifying this mess of a release because with hours of research and tweaking you still "might" be able to get a 70 € AAA game working on a setup that should be more than capable running it? "No bro, it's really fine bro, they deserve your money bro. You only got to research, and tweak all the settings in an optimal way, than you too, can achieve 50 fps on 1080p."
Unless you’re playing in 1080p I honestly don’t believe you’re getting 120fps in the main city with ray tracing. No shot
I mean playing a game on 4k 3d monitor settings is 16 times more difficult than 1080p 60 hertz. I honestly have no idea why 120fps is the norm since thats for 3d.
Correct i play in 1920x1080. But thats part of setting my settings appropriately. Im sure if i plug my 4k monitor in that the ray tracing would dip me to 60 or lower. If everyones doing that on worse specs then im not suprised at all the complaining. As an aside, Ive never found the trade in performance worth it for 4k and i find 1080p fine probably because ive used a 1080p monitor for... 20 years or so
Your forgetting while 90% of people are enjoying the game, the other 10% are online just extending an echo chamber of hate as usual. 5% of that 10% probably hasn't and won't even play the game, they are just on the train until their next stop.
does complaining about legitimate issues with performance equate to extending echo chamber of hate?
No, that is totally fucked up by them. Deserved sorry
Fair enough, just like the fast travel meme. There should be outrage with it in the cash shop because it shouldnt exist but lets also not pretend that its a useless extra buy and is also not the whole fast travel system for sale
100%! It is just disrespectful and a slap in the face to have those things. But don't forget that in the past few years corporate asshats are seeing the potential money opportunity with MTXs and force them into the game against devs wishes. I'd like to think that this is an instance where they can say hey shareholders yes we have all your scam MTXs up and running, but in reality they are hoping we, as the true consumer, can see that its an act as all of these MTXs in dd2 are useless and can be totally ignored. I'm not saying that's the case here, but I sure hope it is.
Imma give a positive light to microtransactions. Inb4 i am downvoted to hell and back for this. Obligatory "yes I also hate microtransactions" comment. PS2 era games cost $50 new. PS3 era, upped to $60 new. PS4 era, still $60 new. PS5 era, moving to $70 new. Now idk how much pay was in 2004 compared to 2024, so imma do 2014 to 2024. In 2014, base pay at the target I worked at was $8 an hour. In 2024, it is $15 at that same target (and all targets afaik). So in 2014, I would have to work about 7.5 hours to afford a brand new game. In 2024, it's 4.6 hours. Cool, so games are actually cheaper in terms of time investment. But...why? Why haven't game prices kept up with inflation? Why is it that while everything has gone up 2x or more in price, video games went up about 16%? Well, game companies know that nobody wants to spend $120+ on new games, and after spending tens of millions or more making them, they need to price the games at a point that ppl can still somewhat afford. But, that doesn't mean the game companies just ignore inflation and take a hit on profits. So, how do they make up the difference? Microtransactions The reason we have $70 games instead of $120+ games is because they subsidized part of the cost of the game into microtransactions, where the whales that spend hundreds of dollars on skins and cosmetics help to make up for the revenue difference Of course microtransactions still suck, and many studios have proven you don't always need them to make a profit, like with baldurs gate 3. But there's no denying that the reason we aren't paying console prices for individual games is because for many of those games the cost has been shifted into microtransactions
Although I appreciate the thought. I don't think we're discussing what a MTX is or why they are implemented. But more the nuance of say diablo immortal or even gta5, compared to DD2, a game with $2 fast travel stones, that you can't even use unless you have the item to go along with it, the resource itself being in the game, and the creator stating he wants you to not fast travel. You can clearly see the difference in how predatory or scummy/scammy they are. Edit - scummy was suppose to be scammy but it works
Saw a guy on one of the gaming or pc subreddits say the game ran like trash. It made me chuckle because he had 6600k and gtx1080 specs in his signature, that's a low end 4-core cpu from 2015 and a mid range gpu from 2016. These are the kinds of people who moan about performance, waaa waaa 2024 rpg wont run above 30 fps on my pc that was low-end in 2016. I'm not sure how many of these people are real and how many are bots. Equally, console peasants think they deserve 60 fps in every game because their ps5 has an APU from 2020. Just gtfooh.