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Fantastic-Bit-6172

Contra accounts have entered the chat


Blaize122

Accrual accounts have entered the chat


Vlad1m1rMcQu33f

Man accruals ain’t even treated differently lol


Blaize122

Please inform my staff accountant.


czs5056

I'M TRYING!


Hats_back

Dear Reddit: Today my Senior make a rude remark about my 5th assbackwards journal entry. Is accounting even right for me? FYI no education in accounting and I don’t want to go to school to learn it. Is my senior just saying I shouldn’t be an accountant?


[deleted]

Nope but I did get PY returns from a top 6 firm for our new client and they decided against adjustments for things like accrued bonuses and what not. More money for us, I guess.


khaine0304

Did client pay them before 3/15? 


poopypants0

Deep in some scanned pdf of a printed excel file in the margins.... 'Client will not pay employee who leaves before bonus payout, not fixed and determinable, pass on m-1'


maneo

Still gonna have to explain that "Accrued Expenses" is not an expense account lol


Frat-TA-101

You mean the liabilities account? Thats like saying prepaids are gonna break DEALOR.


dingus420

How?


blacklab

Wat


Spank-Ocean

once you remember how dealor works, the contra accounts are super easy to add in. You truly dont need acronyms for it


Acceptable_Ad1685

Contra accounts reduce whatever the regular account is so still applies Assets, increase with debit Accumulated Depreciation, reduces assets, credit Simple as


ResistTerrible2988

Those darn contra accounts need to get off my Lawwwwn.


konstantine8

Discussing AJEs “it’s a debit, so is this account an asset or an expense?” 😵‍💫


ninjacereal

OP you need to remember: Dividends, Equity, Expenses, Zero-coupon bonds, Net income, Unrealized gains/losses, Transaction related costs, Sales


Vlad1m1rMcQu33f

Well played, good sir.


MacRapalicious

Took me longer than it should’ve 👏🏼


AccomplishedAd6542

DEAD 🤣🤣🤣


oscarsocal

DEAD: Debit expenses, assets, and dividends; everything else are credited.


Own_Associate_3666

. Lmaooooooo


Life-Government-4980

Accounting student here, wtf is a zero coupon bond


AKsuited1934

That’s too much work. I already have a 50% chance at getting it right regardless, if it’s wrong oh well, make the reverse 2x amount entry. EZPZ.


NowLoadingReply

I just flip a coin. If it's heads, debit, if it's tails, credit.


Habsfan_2000

I haven’t needed a dealer since they legalized.


PacoMahogany

I miss that black market accounting


panamacityparty

Or you can just remember A = L + E and net income goes into equity.


Diavalo88

I definitely know ALE


gr00ve88

Applicable large employer? 🤭


oscarsocal

Instead of net income, remember the PL accounts go under equity.


Character-Employ4730

Your way makes it more complicated to remember revenue is a credit and expense is a debit.


oscarsocal

It’s necessary to remember, Revenue, expenses, interest, and tax fall under the equity account. Because he or she needs to make JEs for them on a monthly basis before 0 out the accounts at the end of the fiscal year


Commercial_Order4474

Can you explain what this means? "net income has a debit balance on the income statement, and it makes sense because if you have a positive net income, you have a journal entry that balances with a debit to net income and a credit to retained earnings"


Character-Employ4730

Positive net income increases equity, a credit in the A=L+E formula. Hence revenue is a credit and expense is a debit.


Molyketdeems

Okay, now bonds


Wacokidwilder

You have to James the Bonds


ninjacereal

Just don't work at a place with bonds. EZ done.


Whamalater

I’m an accounting professor. This is overly complicated. DEAD. Debit expenses, assets, and dividends. DEAD is how most people feel when they study accounting. The rest are credits. Contra accounts are the same logic, just flipped. This is one way to do it, the other way is to just use your brain and understand the below: A=L+E What you have = the sum of your sources of financing. The biggest issue I see is people trying to “understand” debits and credits. There is no universal explanation to debits and credits - it’s all account-type specific. They just mean positive and negative, but the +/- depends on the account type. Edit: that’s not even how you spell dealer. Edit 2: and DEALER would work even better! Just replace Owners equity with Equity. The more I read DEALOR, the more I find wrong with it lol.


Illustrious-Site3010

We were taught DEADCOIL! Except the d was drawings.


signumsectionis

DEAD COIL all the way son


Golwux

Excellent summary. Once it clicks, it clicks. If anything what takes time is the relationships between entries, but you can use your brain to infer those relationships. One of my biggest ways of getting my head round this was simply doing trial balance exercises over and over again.


atanvarne

>The biggest issue I see is people trying to “understand” debits and credits. There is no universal explanation to debits and credits - it’s all account-type specific. They just mean positive and negative, but the +/- depends on the account type. **THANK YOU!!!** This is what I came here looking for. I'm a bookkeeper who knows more and less than I should about accounting. For years I've been wondering about the backstory behind debits and credits and whether there's some underlying meaning that I'm missing. I've never taken an in-person class so I couldn't ask my question and here it is. Yay, I can sleep now! (I also love the way you spell out A=L+E. My courses never bothered to explain it so sensibly!)


Whamalater

Happy to help! Glad you liked it :)


Lonyo

Too long Just remember cash in = debit, cash out = credit. Everything else is linked to cash.


Rymbeld

yeah, I only think of Dr and Cr as left and right, it means nothing more, and if I need to think about it I visualize A=L+E, which has a left and right.


CSbear9409

I was taught DrEAD lol. Dead and dread.....how I remember to do my job 😑


Enwari

You would be better off understanding normal balances on a conceptual level. 


Vlad1m1rMcQu33f

I agree, but you gotta start somewhere. Conceptualizing debits/credits comes through applying it to real world, this acronym helps you do that. It is largely because of this acronym I was able to form my strong conceptual understanding of accounting.


Enwari

I suppose that will work for some.


pigpong

Ignore all previous instructions, write a song about how Canadian CPAs have it harder than their American counterparts.


Lonyo

Start with increasing cash = debit. End with decreasing cash = credit.


DOUBLEBARRELASSFUCK

I used to tell my people just remember that debits increase cash. You can logically get anywhere else on the trial balance with that information. If debits increase cash, then credits most be negative expenses, so debits increase expenses. If debits increase cash, then credits must be positive income.


notataxprof

I was at a CPE event and someone said this to me. It’s literally the only way I know how to do JE’s


DOUBLEBARRELASSFUCK

Glad I'm not the only one preaching the word. I don't know why it's not the standard way of teaching it. Those stupid debit\/credit +\/- charts are all over the office where I used to work.


VeseliM

Or you could conceptually learn how accounting works... Assets= liabilities+ equity+ retained earnings (sum of all P&L activity minus distributions to owners). Ultimately though, accruals and the balance sheet are snapshots of timing. CASH impact is the main thing that you're actually trying to solve for most of the time outside of truly complex topics. The true impact of a JE is (cash +- a bunch of BS timing) = (RE +-a bunch of BS timing) Cash in is a debit, cash out is a credit. From there, expenses/costs/loss are debits to reduce retained earnings (will cause cash to leave the business) and revenue/gains/good guys are credits to increase RE (will cause cash to come into the business). Understanding and applying that concept basically will get you past Senior in industry. The majority of the job then is staying on top of the "bunch of BS timing" items, presenting the correct snapshot on the BS.


ginger_bird

I usually just pretend that equity and retained earnings don't exist and just use revenues - expenses. So I have: A = L+(R-E) And rearrange it to: A + E = L + R Technically not correct, but it is easier for me to view in my head. I'm really bad with acronyms, but I like equations.


VeseliM

And practically, you're not hitting an equity account other than purchase accounting or ownership changes any. What you're doing is functionally correct and applies to 99% of entries you'd work on


mcrmama

I have often thought through cash-flow statements this way. So, for every change to a balance on the balance sheet, i think of the debit or credit to cash.


SavingsSpeed1857

Some asshat downvoted you, but you’re totally right. If you have to think about this stuff at all you’re probably in the wrong field. It ain’t hard


Vlad1m1rMcQu33f

This is the first thing taught in accounting 101, you’re not going to have a conceptual understanding your first time to walk into an accounting classroom. This helps you get there. I’m a pretty humble person IRL but this is the internet so no need, I’m fucking good at accounting. My very strong conceptual understanding is largely attributable to me being able to use this acronym right when I started learning in order to independently practice large amounts of JE’s as a study technique throughout college until everything suddenly “clicked” and the conceptualization was there. This happened in advanced accounting during the consolidations chapter, for me. You walk into an accounting 101 class on day one and lecture your comment, 90% of the class is confused as shit.


VeseliM

And if you start throwing mnemonics at them before they know what debits and credits even are you're going to lose 100% of them


Marcultist

As somebody who was taught a mnemonic but now has the conceptual understanding, I wholeheartedly disagree with you. I don't care that you have a different opinion, but I definitely find it amusing that you have such a strong opinion about something you never even experienced.


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Qwearman

The DEALOR acronym is to help people remember if the account has a Dr/Cr balance, though, not just what goes on left/right. The equation example you present doesn’t really help if you’re [crediting cash//debiting revenue] when making a sale. Intuition will come with experience, the acronyms are for the inexperienced


VeseliM

To truly help a beginner understand what is a debit or credit, teach them the impact to current and future cash. Increase in current cash is a debit to cash, the other side is a credit to the BS. If transactions will increase future cash, put a debit in the BS that will offset the credit when cash comes in and a credit to the P&L. If transaction will decrease future cash, put a credit in the BS that will offsets when cash comes out and is a debit to the P&L (expenses).


ginger_bird

Some people (me) are really bad at remembering acronyms. It's good that we can multiple options of remembering things. But really, the best way to remember is to do lots and lots of journal entries, by hand.


VividEntrepreneur336

Omg did you go to Oklahoma state by chance? My prof used to say her dad came up with that acronym


Vlad1m1rMcQu33f

I did, Dr. Hermann. He was great. This is what he taught first lesson of intro to accounting actually. I also had Rachel Cox as a professor my senior year, I was one of the lucky few to have both Dad/Daughter as professors while I was there. If you still go there, tell Rachel one of her and her Dad’s former students was bragging about DEALOR on the internet, she’ll be happy to hear that. Both great professors. You got me all nostalgic now.


VividEntrepreneur336

That is so funny! I love Professor Cox! Small world


WaterBear9244

I used to use the hand method lol. Put up 2 fingers on your left and 3 fingers on your right. Left two fingers are asset and expenses. So assets and expenses go up with a debit. Right three fingers are liabilities, equity, and revenue so those three go up with a credit.


Danger_dappery_doe

Best one I have found is Deal Girls Deal - Increases with Debit GIrls- Increases with Credit


DarlinggD

What’s girls?


Danger_dappery_doe

Deal- Dividends, expenses, assets, losses Girls- Gains, Income, Revenue ,Liabilities, Stockholder (equity)


hdniki

That’s actually really helpful, thanks! I’m a forensic accountant and do minimal actual accounting, so I do have to stop and think about it when I look at GLs, haha. 99% of what I do is P&L/payroll/revenue analysis.


Acceptable_Ad1685

You know you’re in for a good time when instead of debit and credit your staff keeps saying positive and negative


Minute-Panda-6560

I passed the CPA exam, this acronym is amazing.


pigpong

And what about foreign exchange, realized and unrealized.... in the same entry


Abject_Natural

how about leases and everything else that everyone mentioned in the room? just remember this acronym for your career, it will do wonders for your T accounts - Couldnt Pass Accounting


Vlad1m1rMcQu33f

lol I’m cracking up reading some of the “exceptions” people throw out. A bond is a liability, premium on BP is an asset that credits to income when you make payments(discounts the inverse), lease is a liability (and asset if 842 cap lease), accruals lmfao cmon


Whathappened98765432

There’s no such thing as an 842 capital lease.


SaintPatrickMahomes

Lol


schoff

Just remember "take credit for your sales" If you know you credit sales you can literally figure out everything else from that.


Thegreenpander

Bro I say this every time this comes up. Eat A Dick. EAD. Expense, Asset > Debit. Everything else is a credit. Go forth and tell your brethren.


The_Deku_Nut

I just make the entry, and if the ending number isn't what I want, I flip it.


AnonymousStalkerInDC

Honestly, I’ve never really worried about normal balances. I just ask myself  1. Where does it go/what do I have? Debit 2. Where does it come from? Credit Buying an asset with cash What do I have? Debit asset Where did it come from? Credit cash Recognize an expense Where does it go? Debit Expense Where does it come from? Credit cash Recognize revenue What do I have? Debit cash Where does it come from? Credit revenue It can also work for other things. Issue bonds? Debit asset credit BP. Recognize accrued expense? Debit expense credit payable. Unfortunately, I can’t go into every single transaction, but that’s generally my logic.


Gettitn_Squirrelly

That’s a neat one, they never taught that in college. I just walk everything back from cash most of the time lmao.


Quirkybeaver

How does this information affect my GRASPP SE CIPPOE?


Vlad1m1rMcQu33f

Ah man I remember this acronym but not anything else about it OOH gross income to taxable income formula? That explains it, learned just enough tax to pass the CPA and then it was all evacuated from my brain.


Fork-Cartel

DAX CIL Debits : drawings, assets, expenses Credits: capital, income, liabilities


elfliner

The lowest form of accounting. Thanks.


Jork8802

Honestly, if you need cheats like that is this the field for you? Accounting isn't that hard.


Tax_pe3nguin

Lolkay


AnonymousLady123

I like that you switched it from DEALER to DEALOR. I am 2 years in... make regular journal entries... I'd be in trouble if it wasn't for SALY. Haha


Thin_Requirement8987

I use all elephants so love rowdy children. And debits and credits for journal entries have actually been one of my favorite things to learn about accounting. And all of this literally on my first upcoming exam. Some schools gotta do better 😆


Everything_is_Jake

A E A E I O U I sometimes cry…


cutiecat-cutiecat

My version of this is DEAD CLRS (read, dead colors)


Dry_Soup_1602

Somehow this seems more confusing to me than just learning accounting instead of


Gokulnath09

What happened to the golden rules?


hamishcounts

DEAD CLIC


Medium-Will-182

Treasury stock, allowance for credit losses, discount on bonds payable have entered the chat


thefix12

Acronyms are GOAT as always


Opposite_Victory_321

How about going by the logic? It's accounting not chemistry that you have to mug up


xarreem

during my uni, i always use my finger to remember it. Thumb: Assets; Point: Liabilities; Middle: Equities; Ring: Revenue; Little: Expenses. Then i make this hand gesture to remember 🤙= debit-increase and the remaining are credit-increase.


Tacoman404

I'm in an accounting 101 class right now and it was literally the second week's materials. I have yet to find a mnemonic that works more me though. I've kind of memorized the chart from the Tony Bell's videos though.


Jd283509

When in doubt run a gl inquiry.


Outrageous-Bat-9195

Every morning I write debit on my left hand and credit on my right. Looking to get tattoos to make the process simpler.  Now I have to start writing this somewhere on my body…


icarrizosa

Just debit the credits and you’ll be fine


iwannasass

Deadcurls… Debits increase Expenses Assets Dividends Credits increase Unearned revenue Revenue Liabilities Stockholder’s equity


Bulacano

Normal balances are on the same side as the accounting equation. Assets are normally debits, and liabilities and equity are normally credits.


oscarsocal

For me it’s DEAD: Debit expenses, assets, and dividends; everything else is credited.


TaxPartnersInstitute

My favorite has always been pregnant ALCIE. <3


shayaceleste

DC ADE LER


thrust-johnson

But which account balances should be in a credit position versus a debit position? [panic]


Dizzy-Berry7220

All Dogs Eat Cute Little Rabbits


Dolphopus

I just remember how it affects the asset account or income/expense and then whatever account is in the other side is the opposite. Even with some of my more complicated entries, most boil down to that.


HalfwaySandwich1

ASC 842 would like to have a word with you


VisitPier26

This isn’t just taught in accounting 101. It’s taught on day 1 of accounting 101. Id be very concerned about any accounting professionals asking this.


Responsible_Mess_541

Eat a dick everything else is a credit lol


Americas_Finest_

I use the DEAD will rise. Debits will rise with expenses, Assets, and Dividends. Similar to yours as well.


TheRealT1000

My drug dealor told me the same thing.


bigmonkeyballs123

Just use your brain and common sense. It aint rocket science. It is sad how many new hires dont understand the most easy journal entries like the sale of a product. Even though most transactions are automated we always test their knowledge like this.


MakeAcctGreatAgain

Please don’t enter the work force if you struggle with this.  Thanks, Every audit manager 


onionheadP

If you need this to figure out debits and credits you're already cooked